Duplicate Product Review: High Angle Driveline

Sep. 01, 2000 By Shawn Spickler
After doing some major suspension mods which includes more lift, we soon encountered some problems. To start with, there was a loud chattering sound. It did this at any speed which was pretty embarrassing to say the least. Then to make it worse, we had major vibration at speeds above 35. Unless you like the quarter motel bed effect, it should be fixed soon as possible to avoid additional wear on drivetrain components. What’s causing this you ask? The driveshaft happens to be the culprit here.

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When you start lifting your rig like this, you WILL encounter driveline problems. High Angle Driveline has the solution. Both trucks running 18"+ of lift and are customers of High Angle Driveline.

So what causes a driveshaft to do this? The main problem is the operating angle of the shaft. Ideally you want the two ends of a drive shaft to be within a few degrees of each other for maximum u-joint life and minimum vibration. If the angles aren’t correct, you will experience vibration. Anytime you add a lift, you risk the chance of the angles be out of wack. Larger lifts are worse of coarse. The more angle you have on a shaft, the more likely you will have this problem. This also decreases your u-joint life. Basically a u-joint is rated for specific, continuous operating load @ 3000 R.P.M. for 5000 hrs. with a 3 degree joint angle, and assuming proper periodic maintenance. If you double the angle you halve the life, halve the load & double the life and vice/versa. We tried to correct this problem by installing shims on the transfer case to angle it down and using shims on our rear axle to match the transfer case. Unfortunately, this solution didn't work.

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When a vehicle is lifted, this affects the driveshaft angle. Notice the driveshaft angle can not exceed 3 degrees from each centerline. Both t-case and axle angles have to match each other. A lift will put more of an angle on the shaft and possibly cause severe vibration.

Besides vibration problems we also had problems with the front shaft. Apparently with the soft front springs, longer shocks, mounts and removed sway bar, it must have been too much for the front shaft. The 1310 CV broke twice on the trail. The front shaft just didn’t have enough travel and operating angle. The operating angle is the angle the shaft can handle without binding.

It was time to find some new shafts. We wanted something that could handle the flex of our rig. We recently did 986 RTI on a 25 degree ramp so we needed shafts that could extend farther and not bind at an extreme angle. Another thing we considered was the output of our motor. We’ve seen other driveshafts that had either been snapped like a toothpick or twisted like candy cane from too much torque and hp. Granted our big block engine is still mostly stock but there's some major engine mods coming soon so we wanted something that could handle the power.

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Here's the rear 1350 CV shaft almost ready to leave the shop. Jesse does the final checks to make sure everything is correct. Here's the operating angle on the shaft. Over 32 degrees which is remarkable for any shaft. Our old shaft could only operate at 23 degrees.
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Luckily for us, Jesse Jaynes from High Angle Driveline came to our rescue. High Angle builds custom shafts and components for extreme duty and long travel 4x4 applications which include all 4x4s, Jeeps, trucks, racing and More. They can provide drivelines for lifts 2" to 30". Jesse has been doing this for 13 years and we felt confident with his experience and knowledge he could make reliable driveshafts for our needs. High Angle Driveline uses only the best parts, including genuine Dana & Spicer components. All driveshafts are precision fabricated and balanced professionally. Jesse suggested his custom 1350 CV style shafts front and rear. There are numerous reasons to go to this setup. To start with, the 1350 u-joint is designed for a 1 ton truck so there should be no strength issues. The 1 ton joints are added to a CV style shaft to eliminate any vibration. Unlike the other CV shafts which max out at 20-25 degrees, High Angle's 1350 CV shafts can achieve 32.8 degrees operating angle. This should fix our binding problem in the front. The front shaft will be similar except a longer spline will be used to allow more flex off-road. 1350 joints are widely used and can be purchased at most parts store. Even though the chances of breaking a 1350 are slim, it's nice to know that when you're on the trail far away from home. High Angle Driveline is the only shop we know that can produce a 1350 CV that will bolt to our 205 t-case. They can produce this setup for most common transfer cases.

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Here's the benefit of a CV shaft. Notice the t-case doesn't have to be angled making it easier for the front shaft. The rear axle can be pointed up to the t-case with no problems. This is ideal when a lift is installed. A standard shaft would vibrate excessively in this position.

The real benefit to a CV (double cardan) drive shaft is smoother operation at higher operating angles and longer life. The CV assembly works by intersecting the joint angles at the center pivot point and delivering a smooth rotational power flow or surface velocity through the drive line. Therefore, with this type of driveline it is important to roll the differential upward so that you have minimal joint operating angle at the differential end. Rolling the differential upward will lessen the total operating angle at each end of the driveshaft. Now at the transfer case end of the driveshaft you have two joints equally dividing the total angle. This will double the life of the joints at this end, additionally you will be back up to full rated life for the joint at the differential end. As another benefit, the CV is stronger than a conventional driveline when turning through the same angle.

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Left- The rear shaft comes with a custom flange that replaces the fixed yoke. The right picture compares the larger 1310 joint (left) with a 1350 joint (right).
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The rear 1350 CV shaft requires a fixed yoke 205 which shouldn’t be a problem since almost all 205’s have this. Unfortunately for us, our NP205 does not have a fixed yoke. 1980 was the only year GM had a slip yoke on the end of a 205 transfer case. Well, guess which year our 205 was made… Fortunately, we found a used 205 for $200 that had the fixed yoke on it. We could of purchased new parts but it was almost the same cost. This will also allow us to install the slip yoke on the other transfer case and sell it. All the fixed yoke parts are installed except for the yoke. The new CV shaft can now be installed.

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At the same time, the 205 was converted into a fixed yoke. 1980 was the only year that the 205 came with a slip yoke and we just happen to have a transfer case from a 1980... Lucky us.
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To install the new CV shaft in the rear, Jesse includes a special custom flange that bolts on to the existing shaft in place of the fixed yoke. The flange is easy to install and requires no special tools. A large socket is required to remove the large nut holding the yoke on. Jesse also includes special high strength bolts to mount the shaft on the flange. The shaft is bolted to the custom flange and installed on the axle. This is a good time to replace the joint straps or u-bolts.

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Top left- The new flange is installed on the 205. Top right picture shows the new rear 1350 CV. Bottom picture is the new shaft mounted to the rear axle.
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For the front shaft, Jesse built a custom rock crawler shaft which allows major flex without the shaft falling in pieces. This shaft has a much longer slip shaft which is needed more in the front than the rear. It’s also equipped with the 1 ton 1350 shafts on both sides and also includes the 1 ton CV joint along with a larger 3" tube.

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Here's the front shaft collapsed and fully extended. Both ends have the 1350 joints.
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This shaft does require a few things. The front flange has to be sent to High Angle Driveline so Jesse can machine it to fit the larger CV. We had an extra flange that we sent out. When it came back, there was some confusion since it looked like a new flange. High Angle had sandblasted the rust and grime off the flange and machined it. New flange bolts were also supplied. At the same time we upgraded the front axle yoke to a 1350 but this is optional. The yoke was simple to bolt on. The new machined flange is then installed on the transfer case followed by the driveshaft. New u-bolts are required for the new axle yoke which were supplied by High Angle. One thing to keep in mind is the tube diameter. It was very close to the header flange. First time it goes off-road, it's guaranteed to hit. This problem is usually caused by cheap headers that don't fit well. A better set of headers will soon be installed to fix this. If your exhaust or anything else comes close to your existing shaft, you may want to consider staying with the same size of shaft tube.

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There's a big difference when you compare the old front shaft compared with the new 1350 shaft. Both shafts are fully extended. The front flange was modified by High Angle to except the new shaft.
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The left picture shows the front shaft installed. The picture on the right is the clearance between the header flange and front shaft. Be sure you have enough clearance before ordering a larger diameter in the front. This might be ok on the street but as soon as you take it off-road, it will hit. New headers will be installed soon that won't have this problem.
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Now that we’re properly shafted, it’s time for a test spin. Let’s just say this wasn’t an ordinary spin. We really took it for a hard test by dropping the clutch at 5k and proceeded to take it on the highway at high speeds. 90mph and no vibration! We're Lucky the police weren’t following us! No annoying chattering noise either. This was really nice and everything was so smooth. We even locked in the hubs and shifted it in 4 HI and tried the front shaft. Again, no annoying vibration at higher speeds. AT LAST! We now have a smooth rig!

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For the super tall rigs High Angle Driveline makes these 80 degree CV shafts. The u-joints are a 1410 size which are even larger than a 1350 joint.
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5864 Clark
Paradise, CA 95969
(530)872-5725
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E-Mail: forwhlr@saber.net www.highangledriveline.prodigybiz.com

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