Toy4x4 Digest          Fri, 22 Aug 97 16:07:42 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 384
 Today's Topics:
 (Hollister Hills) - trail conditions (3 msgs)
 2L-T Toyota TurboDiesel engines (5 msgs)
 A/C Install - still looking for comments
 Bio (3 msgs)
 Clutch Fan Going Bad? (2 msgs)
 Clutch Life
 Driveshaft vibrations
 Farts
 Fender thing??
 Fog Light Problems
 hello hello is there anybody listening.
 installing Ford front shock mounts
 Just a test (2 msgs)
 Lowest-cost source for parts?
 performance
 Personal Bio: Greg Charland
 rear disc brakes
 Removing rusted spring bolts
 Spare Tire Carriers.
 Tech tips mazda $
 Toy4x4 Digest V1 #375
 turbo boost
 U-Joints
 V8
 Vibration (2 msgs)
 was whats that? (2 msgs)
 what's that?
 whats that? (2 msgs)
 whats that?(used to be...) (2 msgs)
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 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 18:28:17
 From: Charles  Subject: (Hollister Hills) - trail conditions
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 06:42 PM 8/20/97 -0500, you wrote:>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>     _____________>>    ||           ||>>    ||\    \     ||>>  []||_\____\____||[] =20>>   \|__---------__|/   '85 CJ-7, four-banger, lifted, locked>>   _|_/( )|||( )\_|_  =20>>  /___\  |||||  /___\     (Specs deleted for search engine)>>  {\!\}\@|||||@/{/!/}     (purposes...                    )>>  {\!#############!/} =20>>  {\!\} \_/     {/!/}        Custom On-Board Air (York)>>  {\!\}         {/!/}      Custom On-Board Welder (Delco)>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>\>>>>I think we have been infiltrated by a spy.  Cause that dont look anything>like a toyota.>>>Steve Capuano
 You know, a toyota owner on Acid might go outside and think his landcruiser
 looked like a HeeP??? Maybe? do ya think? just maybe???
 Charles Brooks
 cbrooks1@mail.acilink.net
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:05:49 -0600
 From: daves8@juno.com (DAVE SCHOENBERG)
 Subject: (Hollister Hills) - trail conditions
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 17:20:11 -0700 Locke Christman  writes:
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:28:25 -0700
 From: Nick Krest  Subject: (Hollister Hills) - trail conditions
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:26:51 -0700
 From: James Brink  Subject: 2L-T Toyota TurboDiesel engines
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 bwiencek@kcnet.com wrote:>> OK,>>         I have found 2 sources for used 2L-T Turbo Diesel's... My question is> this - what Transmission does the stock Toyota truck use behind the TD?  Is> it the same G-52 that the 85-up 22R trucks use?  Anyone know?  Anyone outside> the US want to look on their data plate and check the trans code?  I figure> if I get this thing, I'll need to wire up the glow plugs, change the fuel> system over to run Diesel (nice time to add the bigger optional tank!) and> have a new custom 2.5" exhaust run (less restriction for the turbo!).> Hopefully I can pick up new motor mounts that will bolt right up, and one of> the places think they have a belhousing for this application, but he couldn't> tell me what trans it was for.
 2L-T powered trucks use the W56 and non-turbos use the G52.
 - --
 Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician
 Manhattan Beach, CA
 brinkjm@earthlink.net                           '86 Std. Bed/32"BFG A/T
 ************************************************************************
 TLCA# 6184/ Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR) / MRVMA-DESERT EXPLORERS
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:45:40 -0700
 From: Locke Christman  Subject: 2L-T Toyota TurboDiesel engines
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  Brian wrote:>	I have found 2 sources for used 2L-T Turbo Diesel's.
 Can you tell me where and how much?  I have an '84 Diesel but the
 injector pump is shot and the engine is in need of a rebuild.>.. My question is>this - what Transmission does the stock Toyota truck use behind the TD?  Is>it the same G-52 that the 85-up 22R trucks use?  Anyone know?  Anyone outside>the US want to look on their data plate and check the trans code?
 I'm in the US and it is an '84 without a turbo, but I will see about
 checking the code tonight.
 Locke> ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:48:54 -0700
 From: Locke Christman  Subject: 2L-T Toyota TurboDiesel engines
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  Jim Brink wrote:>2L-T powered trucks use the W56 and non-turbos use the G52.
 Jim,
 Is this referring only to '85 and up?  Is the same true for an '84
 Diesel 4x4 PU?  It is a 2.4L non-Turbo, designated 2L I think.  Also,
 which tranny is preferable or is it a toss-up?
 Boy am I full of questions! :-)
 Thanks,
 Locke> ------------------------------
 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 97 12:12:10
 From: "Fisher, Gary"  Subject: 2L-T Toyota TurboDiesel engines
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org>I have found 2 sources for used 2L-T Turbo Diesel's... My question is>this - what Transmission does the stock Toyota truck use behind the TD?  Is>it the same G-52 that the 85-up 22R trucks use?  Anyone know?  Anyone outside>the US want to look on their data plate and check the trans code?  I figure>if I get this thing, I'll need to wire up the glow plugs, change the fuel>system over to run Diesel (nice time to add the bigger optional tank!) and>have a new custom 2.5" exhaust run (less restriction for the turbo!).>Hopefully I can pick up new motor mounts that will bolt right up, and one of>the places think they have a belhousing for this application, but he couldn't>tell me what trans it was for.  I guess I'm looking for as much info as I can>get.  Once it's in and running, I can work on intake & exhaust manifold mods>for more flow.  The nice thing is that the diesels aren't inspected for>engine mods around here.... mostly gas motor restrictions.
 Over here is Australia, some 2L engines come out with 6 volt glow plugs and some
 come out with 12 volt glow plugs. Try get an engine with the 12 volt plugs to
 make wiring it up a bit easier. Also you can get some fitted with 24 volt
 starter motors. Just check these things before you hand over the cash.
 Gary Fisher
 garyf@hpa.com.au
 ****************************************
 * 89 Hilux Extra Cab 2.8 turbo Diesel  *
 * Safari Snorkel, Landcruiser airbox   *
 * 32 BFG MT ARB Bars all round         *
 * More scratches than I can count      *
 ****************************************
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:02:26 -0700
 From: Locke Christman  Subject: 2L-T Toyota TurboDiesel engines
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'" >Jim Brink wrote:>>>2L-T powered trucks use the W56 and non-turbos use the G52.
 I wrote:>>Jim,>>Is this referring only to '85 and up?  Is the same true for an '84>Diesel 4x4 PU?  It is a 2.4L non-Turbo, designated 2L I think.
 Well I answered my own question on this one.  The '84 4x4 with the 2L
 diesel (no Turbo) has the G52 Tranny, as indicated on the ID plate.  A
 2wd with a 2L of the same year also has a G52.
 I do have a couple of other questions though.  First, just for
 curiosity, what is the difference between a G52 and a W56?
 And second, I have access to a running 2wD diesel (2L) with a G52, and a
 worn out 4wd diesel, both '84.  Both are beat and ugly.  I have been
 considering putting the good engine into the 4wd along with all of the
 other best parts between the two, and parting out the 2wd.  That should
 be pretty straight forward, just work.
 However, I also would like a 5 speed in my '80 4x4, so I was wondering
 what is the difference between the 2wd and 4wd trannys and if it is
 possible (or practical) to mate a transfer case to the 2wd tranny to put
 it into my '80 4x4?  I must admit that I have not looked very close at
 the G52 trannys, but my guess is that they are the same box,  with a
 tail housing and perhaps a longer output shaft on the 2wd.
 Sorry for the long boring post, but sometimes ya' just gotta know!  :-)
 Thanks,
 Locke> ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:27:37 -0700
 From: Barney McNamara  Subject: A/C Install - still looking for comments
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I got no response to this, so I'm sending it again. It seems there
 were some A/C-pros out there who might have an opinion. Sorry to
 bother you all, but this job really leaves me questioning the whole
 idea. It is hot today, and it seems to work OK, but I thought I'd
 get more cool out of it, and I've discovered that the existing hot
 air control has no effect, it only affects the air going to the
 heater vents near the floor and defroster vents, no affect at all on
 the air coming out the main vents.
 I had the A/C installed.  I ended up taking Nick's (and every A/C pro
 I talked to) advice and bought a new kit and had it professionally
 installed - $675 parts, $300 labor, $55 tax = $1030.
 The job looks OK - the wiring is sloppy, the hoses are protected by
 flimsy one-sided sticky foam tape (will fall off first time in car
 wash). But the compressor is new and well secured, the condenser is
 mounted so-so on a couple of sheet metal screws and angle iron. The
 drier is mounted on a bracket and securely jammed between the body
 and the battery.
 I can fix the wiring (already did half of it.) And the hoses I can
 reroute and tie down securely. They didn't seem to realize this is
 an off-road vehicle. I'll have to look at securing the condenser and
 the drier a little better.
 They drained the PAG oil from the compressor, and refilled with esther
 oil and then charged it with R12. This was due to the small size of
 the condenser, and the fact the shop owner thought R134A would not
 work well due to the small size. They put the wrong sticker on the
 hood, which would have been a mess if I hadn't known to ask the
 question. They are sending me a new sticker.
 There is no temp control directly on the A/C, he said to use the old
 temp control to preheat the air before it goes through the evaporator?
 There is a single switch, which in conjunction with the fan switch,
 turns on the compressor. There is also a variable resistor with a
 thermocouple attached which controls the compressor, he had it on full
 cold. (This control is mounted on a jagged-edged bracket at shin height
 on the air box and will have to be moved/covered/smoothed.)
 The side vents have been ducted to the air box, and the old vent
 intakes plugged behind the dash. Now I can use the fan to blow air
 through the side vents.
 There is no connection to the unused dash pot on the carburetor, which I
 thought would be used to increase the idle speed when the compressor
 is on.
 Does all sound about right? I feel like I've been taken to the cleaners
 but I didn't know exactly what to expect, and I've never seen a similar
 job.
 ______________________________________________________________
 Barney McNamara              JENNY - 83 Toyota Short Bed
 ( barney@flowpoint.com )     stock 22R motor ; 3" body lift
 Santa Cruz, Ca.              8" alloy rims; 31" BFG A/Ts
 homepage: http://www.scruz.net/~barneym/barnhome.htm
 ______________________________________________________________
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:45:55 -0400
 From: "Chad Daniel Zimmer"  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4  On Aug 21,  6:01pm, Toy4x4-Request wrote:> Subject: Bio> Personal Bio Info>> POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name: Chad Zimmer>> City & State: Hickory, NC>> Country: US>> E-mail address: cdzimmer@unity.ncsu.edu>> Toyota (s) year & model: 89 4cyl. pickup>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N>> Age: 19>> Occupation: student>> Marital Status: single>> Hobbies: snow skiing, camping, and 4 wheeling>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: internet>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 I have a grey, 89, standard cab pickup. Just this summer I added a 3
 inch lift. I have a Rancho IFS lift in the front and
 Downey 2 inch 			springs and a 1 inch block in the rear. There
 are RS9000's at all four 			corners. The pumpkins are
 stuffed with Precision 4.88 gears that turn 33 		12.50 BFG Mud-Terrains.
 I also have a Manik brush guard, two Hella 			lights, and a
 campershell. My next additions include a locker, a custom 		rear
 bumper, and an ARB and Warn combo for the front.>>-- End of excerpt from Toy4x4-Request
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:34:24 -0400
 From: Harry Potter  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4  Toy4x4-Request wrote:> Personal Bio Info>> POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name: Harry Potter>> City & State: Hopatcong, NJ>> Country: USA>> E-mail address:     hpotter@bellatlantic.net>> Toyota (s) year & model: 94 4X4 Extended cab pickup>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): n>> Age: 53>> Occupation: Service Tech>> Marital Status: Married>> Hobbies: Amateur Radio, Computing, Camping>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Search>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: 74,000 Mi. and havn't put> a penney into it.  Still has the factory brakes!
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:15:59 +0600
 From: Scott Hollister  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4  At 06:02 PM 8/21/97 -1000, you wrote:>Personal Bio Info>>POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>Name: Scott Hollister>>City & State: Blacksburg, VA>>Country: USA>>E-mail address:shollist@vt.edu>>Toyota (s) year & model:84 xtracab pickup>>Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):N>>Age:25>>Occupation:Student>>Marital Status:Single>>Hobbies:FOUR WHEELING, Mountain Biking,  Improving truck>>How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:Offroad.com>>General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:84 xtracab,  89 Chevy V8,  EZ
 Locker in rear, 5.29's,  33 General Mud Terrains.>> ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:11:37 -0700
 From: James Brink  Subject: Clutch Fan Going Bad?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 sbever@jeffnet.org wrote:>> How can you tell if the clutch fan is going bad?  My 88 4runner with> 22re is getting mildly hot.  Thermo replaced within 10,000 miles.  Going> to rod radiator, but wonder if fan is to blame....>> Seems to get hot in city as well as on freeway.  Probably clogged rad?
 If it runs hot on the freeway, it is not likely the clutch. Look for a
 clogged radiator or even the t-stat. I have seen new vehicles with bad
 t-stats run hot...even fairly new 'stats can fail at any time. Takes
 less than fifteen minutes to swap a thermostat.
 If you can spin the fan freely without resistance and it continues to
 spin for some time, it is bad or going bad. The fluid coupling can also
 leak, indicating a problem.
 - --
 Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician
 Manhattan Beach, CA
 brinkjm@earthlink.net                           '86 Std. Bed/32"BFG A/T
 ************************************************************************
 TLCA# 6184/ Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR) / MRVMA-DESERT EXPLORERS
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 07:12:29 -0400
 From: "NUNES, ROB"  Subject: Clutch Fan Going Bad?
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'" >>>> How can you tell if the clutch fan is going bad?  My 88 4runner with>> 22re is getting mildly hot.  Thermo replaced within 10,000 miles.> Going>> to rod radiator, but wonder if fan is to blame....>>>> Seems to get hot in city as well as on freeway.  Probably clogged> rad?>>> If it runs hot on the freeway, it is not likely the clutch. Look for a> clogged radiator or even the t-stat. I have seen new vehicles with bad> t-stats run hot...even fairly new 'stats can fail at any time. Takes> less than fifteen minutes to swap a thermostat.> I agree with the t-stat prognosis. In my '86, I was replacing it
 on a regular basis. The first time I it ran hot, I had no idea what was
 happening, eventually the head gasket, only one of the water ports,
 blew. From then on, I replaced the coolant once a year and put in a new
 t-stat anytime I saw the temp. rise abnormally. Had no problems since.
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 13:46:29 -0400
 From: Thomas Olenio  Subject: Clutch Life
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Hello List,
 Just a quick question on clutch life..
 My 1985 Toyota pickup, 22R engine, 4x4, with 132k miles is still running
 on its original clutch (or so I am told).  All that I notice is that the
 clutch pedal has to come way up before it starts to engage.  No
 problems, no noise, you just have to really let the pedal up before it
 start to engage.
 Is that normal in a really old clutch?
 How long do these clutches last anyway?
 Thanks,
 Tom
 tolenio@world.std.com
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:38:51 -0600
 From: Mark  Subject: Driveshaft vibrations
 To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org"  Sheldon wrote:> I noticed that you have a shackle lift listed, make sure that your rear u-joint angle is the same as the one> on top.
 WAY far off like, 1-2M-0 on the pinion and 10M-0 on the center u-joint (yeah
 I'm surprised it doesn't shake the truck apart)  If I can find a way to
 lower that center bearing it will help.  Only problem is that the shaft
 might not be able to compress enough and I could start bustin stuff.> After doing shackles on mine I noticed an anoying Hopping from the rear, it was caused by the longer shackles> moving the pinion up, then under acceleration the pinion actually was was twisting upward so far as to give
 It doesn't hopp much except that I don't have the shocks on back there
 yet ;)  I'm puttin em' on the front of the axle housing (kinda like
 yours) so they might help with axle wrap a tiny bit, (but I don't think
 I'm getting much anywho)
 How maluble a metal is the center bearing suport, is that Alluminum?
 - --
 Mark Kitlinski
 kitlinski@worldnet.att.net
 85' 4x4 Xtra Cab SR5_3" Procomp_RS9K's
 F/R_shackle lift_2" rear blocks_31" General's
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 05:23:10 -0500
 From: Steve Capuano  Subject: Farts
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 09:13 AM 8/21/97 -0700, you wrote:>Are you talking about a buzzing sound?  If so, mine does this too.  Sounds>like it is coming from a black cylinder about the size of a peanutbutter>jar that has ports on it labeled:  fueltank and, well I forget the other.>>Just buzzes intermittently and at no regular schedule.>>One of those things that makes you say, hmmmmm?> that be it.
 Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
 capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
 Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back  Synthetic all around
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:59:43 -0500
 From: Chris & Nicki Yorke  Subject: Fender thing??
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>>> OK here we go again (maybe more lug nuts for me)  what are the> specifics on> the TSB, Chris?>> Is it just an annoyance or is it not operating properly?>> BTW Thanks for bringing up the TSB stuff.  If you have a list could> you send> it to me or post it somehow.  If not no bother we'll hit em as they> come up.>> Steve Capuano                   1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4> capuano@hypercon.com            31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S>                                 Rear LockRight  K&N filter> NO problem on the TSB. If I remember right the valve that vents the
 charcoal canister is what is actually making the noise. There is nothing
 wrong with it just annoying. I will look to find the TSB #, and post it
 for you.
 Chris
 yorke@bellsouth.net> NRA lifetime member             Dynomax 2.5" cat back  Synthetic all> around
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:07:04 -7 GMT
 From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III"  Subject: Fog Light Problems
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> From: Kevin Valentine >> I picked up a set of Blazer(TM) fog lights at my local Schucks Auto Parts> store and installed them and they worked great,  well at least for a> couple days.> [quoting seinfeld last night... yada, yada, yada...]>> I spent a couple hrs. with the thing last night trying to get it to work> but nada.>> I even tried installing a separate ground wire from the bulb like my> previous lights had but that did not work.>> WHAT THE HELL DO I HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THESE THINGS WORK?> 1.  check the fuse.  i spent tearing my entire alarm system, only to find i've
 blown a fuse that woulda taken 2 seconds...
 2.  check the bulbs.  them tiny filaments could be hard to see if their gone.
 take it out and hold to a light.  check the continuity also.
 3.  finally to confirm they work, temporarily wire the lights into the battery.
 make sure to use a fuse or you may be holding a bomb in your hands...
 4.  check the switch.  if you're not running a relay between the switch and the
 battery, either the switch has fried or it may have shorted out somewhere
 between the switch and battery.  and if you tapped into the illum/ignition of
 the vehicle, you may have blown the fuse on that circuit...
 - -----------------------
 Leo G. Divinagracia III
 ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 16:56:41 -0500
 From: Steve Capuano  Subject: hello hello is there anybody listening.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 No messages on my evening download, normally like 50 or so.
 Did I get unsubscribed or is it just a very slow day.
 Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
 capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
 Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back  Synthetic all around
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:27:10 -0600
 From: Tony Bartlett  Subject: installing Ford front shock mounts
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Anyone out there who has the Ford front shock mounts installed I just
 have a couple of questions.
 first, I have completed the holes in my inner fender, I cut the original
 mount so there is about 1 to 2 inches showing above the frame.  I
 installed my right mount first and tack welded it on to check
 clearances.  I went to a local ramp and found out I did not have the
 shock far enough inside (tire hit shock on compression).  After getting
 back to the shop I noticed that my shock mount assembly moved a little
 over a half inch until it hit my inner fender.  My welds held so I think
 mounting the Ford shock mount to what was left of my stock mount did not
 have enough support.
 Did anyone have to reinforce this setup?
 After looking it over I think I will cut the stock mount off and make
 some type of bracket so I can bolt the Ford mount to.  That way if you
 ever have to remove the brake master cylinder it will not be in the way.
 I have the bottom of the Ford mounts about even with the top of my
 frame.  Is this close to anyone elsed setup?  The drivers side mount
 sits just below the brake master cylinder (had to modify the brake line
 for a better fit).
 Everything is going good so far.  I am just about done with the stuff I
 can do myself.  Now I have to flag down a friend to help with the
 welding (my welding still sucks).
 People with a/c will have to modify there a/c lines coming out of the
 evaporator so they do not rub against each other.
 I planned on taking pictures but got involved with the work I forgot,
 sorry.
 Tony.
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:52:29 -0400
 From: john skaggs  Subject: Just a test
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I still don't think I am getting all of my mail.
 Just a test, to see.
 John
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 20:57:07 -0500
 From: Steve Capuano  Subject: Just a test
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 11:52 AM 8/22/97 -0400, you wrote:>I still don't think I am getting all of my mail.>>Just a test, to see.>>John> Well, this is the only one I have gotten all day from the list.
 You wrote this real early today.
 Still did not get a message I sent about 5:00 today.
 Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
 capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
 Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back  Synthetic all around
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:57:56 -0700
 From: Scott Rowin  Subject: Lowest-cost source for parts?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Where out there can one get the front 2 ABS side panels for
 4-Runners (1st gen) at a discount?  My local dealer is in the $210 range
 (EACH) with their "discount" for being a repeat customer!  I figured maybe
 $100/ea even at extreme prices, but this is well beyond that.
 I have a set that have decided to crack in two places (giving me a
 total of 3 pieces to "tack" on the sides) so basically almost beyond repair.
 Its the only thing on my '88 that's really shot in the interior, so its on
 my list.
 - - Scott
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 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 18:26:04
 From: Charles  Subject: performance
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 04:37 PM 8/20/97 -0700, you wrote:>On Wednesday, August 20, 1997 4:32 PM, ROBINSON wrote:>> Eric, please try to find some information that I can get via fax or mail>> that will tell me how fast my 1987 Toyota 4x4 22R carb will go in the 1/4>> mile.  This information is needed for legal purposes.  I need this>> information to be documented by someone or some agency that has superior>> knowledge of Toyota performance.>>Defending a speeding ticket? :) I'd go ask the folks at www.toyota.com.>I've cc:'ed the toy4x4 mailing list, maybe someone there can help you.>Otherwise, consider contacting a toyota specialist such as Downey or LC
 engineering.>>-->-- ej@blarg.net
 Well, I am stupid enough to try for the top speed on my 83 22R (carburated)
 and what I got with 31" tires 4:10 gears and foot to the floor was 72 mph
 adjusting for the greater tire diameter i believe that's approx 78-80 mph.
 It took 2 1/2 minutes to get there but... I made it!!!
 Charles Brooks
 cbrooks1@mail.acilink.net
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 13:40:47 -0400
 From: Gregory M Charland  Subject: Personal Bio: Greg Charland
 To: "'toy4x4@tlca.org'"  Personal Bio Info
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name: Greg Charland
 City & State: Gardner, MA
 Country: USA
 E-mail address:  gregc@net1plus.com
 Toyota (s) year & model: 1984 4Runner
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
 Age:24
 Occupation: Engineer
 Marital Status: M
 Hobbies: Chasing after my kids, photography, computer graphics & CAD,
 furniture design & building.
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: The offroad.com web site.
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 My 4Runner was built 7/84. At this point, it's pretty much stock, and I'm at the point
 where I guess I need to either restore it or move on before it's too ugly to sell.
 Fortunately, I've got a friend who works at a Toyota/Volvo dealership (my wife's car
 is a Volvo:) so I'm probably going to fix it up. (Turbos and V-6s are a lot more $$$
 than something I already own!)
 I went to WPI from '91-'95, where I was gregc@wpi.wpi.edu (don't try that address
 now!). I was on the offroad mailing list for several years (back in school), and I
 developed the original 4Runner FAQ that Eric Johnson took over to offroad.com.
 I'm a little rusty on my 4Runner tech (I just got my 'Runner back after a few years),
 but I'll try to help out with some of those pesky little questions.
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 19:12:14 -0500
 From: "Michael Rowe"  Subject: rear disc brakes
 To:  I was checking out my friend's 1991 Isuzu 4x4 pickup and noticed that it is
 equipped with rear disc brakes. I was taken aback to say the least. It is a
 single cab 4 cyl. model with the factory alloy wheels. Has anyone ever
 looked into adapting a rear axle off of one of these for conversion to a
 toyota frame? I'm going to be doing a rear brake job for him in the near
 future and will check it out further.
 Michael Rowe
 '88 4Runner V6 SR5
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 07:20:25 -0400
 From: john skaggs  Subject: Removing rusted spring bolts
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> Donno if this helps or works, but I heard this from a guy that was> trying to get some stuff of a truck at a scrap yard, without success.> An old guy then came with the magic stuff, WD40, sprayed it all over,> and then said "Come back tomorrow"......>> Donno if it works, but last time I tryed to get a very rusted bolt of a> truck, I hurt my arm, when the bolt snapped in the middle.....>> Runar.
 Not even close!  I sprayed liberal amounts of your oh so magic stuff on the
 bolts everyday for a week, I had no problem removing the nuts but the bolts were
 stuck to the sleeves and the bushing.
 John Skaggs
 TLCA# 5560
 85 4Runner (gettin taller soon)
 Akron, Ohio
 John.Skaggs@ab.com
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:01:22 -0500
 From: Brian Gallus  Subject: Spare Tire Carriers.
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  I just got my quote back from Kennesaw Mountain Accessories for their
 Multi-Carrier for my 4Runner.  Seems like a good deal.
 I asked for the top-of-line unit with hitch, D-Rings and a few custom mods - I
 want to replace the side plastic 'bumperettes' (for lack of a better word)
 behind the rear fenders when I replace the bumper, so I asked them to extend
 the bumper around the sides of the truck to the rear fenders....
 Total price????  $365 for the bumper + $45 for shipping.....
 Damn fine price if I do say so....   I've asked to see a couple of pics of a
 Runner with this setup, so hopefully I'll receive something in a few days....
 bkg
 - ----------------------------------------
 Brian K. Gallus
 Dynamark, Inc.
 BrianGallus@Dynamark.com
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 00:25:07 -0400 (EDT)
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: Tech tips mazda $
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 In a message dated 97-08-18 03:51:25 EDT, you write:
<> By the way, if you are thinking of the Mazda swap, when you are welding the
 new mounts on the frame, think  about a custom 1" or so lift between the
 frame and mount.  If done CORECTLY, this would give the lift you need, and
 allow a still flatter spring arch.  Anyway, just a thought, I plan to do this
 if I ever do the Mazda swap.
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:12:09 -0400
 From: jeff4cars@juno.com (Jeffrey Samler D Samler)
 Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #375
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 this is to the guy who wants 35" tires on the 90 4runner.
 you can get a superlift 4-5" lift. this lift gives 4.75" of lift and will
 allow a 35x12.50 on either an 8" or a 10" wheel.
 the lift can be purchased for around $699.  (front end only)
 the rear will add anywhere from $50-$300 depending on how you do it.
 this is the least amount of lift and cost that will allow you to run
 35's.
 -Aaron Bewley
 It seems to me if you try to fit 35" tires with only 4.75" of lift that
 you are going to have some serious rubber to fender well contact.  I have
 33's and 4" of lift and I get minor rubbing when I turn the wheels all
 the way to the left.  You will most likely need 1.25" more lift to fit
 35" tires.
 Jeff jeff4cars@juno.com1989 SR5 V6 Extra Cab, 5-speed, 90,000 miles,4"
 Trailmaster Lift, 33" BFG A/T's on American RacingAlloys, Go Rhino!
 Chrome Nerf Bars, GTS all around,Sony CD-Player w/D-Bass
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 97 12:22:22
 From: "Fisher, Gary"  Subject: turbo boost
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org> BTW, I got a Toy with the 2L-T engine (2.4 turbo Diesel), and I was> wondering if you could tell my how much your safari turbo is boosting> under full load?
 I'm running around 9 psi of boost at full load. I don't have a boost gauge but
 that's the figure my mechanic assured me it was running. The standard Safari
 turbo unit for a 2.8 Diesel pushes about 7-8 psi. Don't forget though that I've
 had my engine rebuilt, everything balanced, ports matched and minor head work. I
 have also fitted a big bore exhaust and a landcruiser airbox for heaps more air
 flow. I have been assured by my mechanic that my engine could easily handle up
 to 18 psi boost but I can't afford to rebuild it if something went wrong. You
 can roughly judge the extra power by remembering (I think) that about 14.5 psi
 is 1 atmosphere and for every atmosphere you affectively double the air density
 and therefore double the power?? hmmm that sounds sort of right??
 My mechanic also had a 2.8 Diesel Turbo running 16 psi boost and he could easily
 sit on 160 kph although a little unstable it might be. I've also heard that
 intercooling it gives approx another 20% power.
 Best of all, I love the whistle when you put the foot down!! Allrrriigghht!!!!!
 Gary Fisher
 garyf@hpa.com.au
 ****************************************
 * 89 Hilux Extra Cab 2.8 turbo Diesel  *
 * Safari Snorkel, Landcruiser airbox   *
 * 32 BFG MT ARB Bars all round         *
 * More scratches than I can count      *
 ****************************************
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 00:25:14 -0400 (EDT)
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: U-Joints
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 In a message dated 97-08-19 13:03:09 EDT, you write:
<> alright guys and gals, I have seen this thrown around a bit lately.  Why is
 it so hard to get to the grease fittings?  If I am not mistaken, if the
 driveshaft is in the propper position, the fittings are EASY to get to, and
 require NO SPECIAL TOOLS.  what gives?  if they have been changed from the
 originals, they might not line up any more, but still, is it that hard?
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:38:04 +0000
 From: Justin Cole  Subject: V8
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Does anyone know when the V8 is going to be put in the T100.  I've
 heard 98 and 98 1/2...
 Thanks.
 justin
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:20:22 -0400
 From: jeff4cars@juno.com (Jeffrey Samler D Samler)
 Subject: Vibration
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Jeff Bouganim wrote:
 I recently bought a '95 4runner and have a basic question being new to
 4wd.
 When I accelerate with the 4wd on, I get a slight vibration the harder I
 press on the accelerator.   The vibration only occurs when the
 engine/trans are under load and disappears once I'm moving above 45mph.
 It's almost a rumbling type sound with some vibration.  I'm trying the
 truck on pavement but only when it's raining...thinking dry pavement
 might cause it?
 Is some vibration normal? or is something wrong?
 Yes, something is wrong.  The 4WD is not meant to be used on dry or wet
 pavement.  Only use the system offroad or in snow (i.e. lose traction
 surfaces)  Running the 4WD on bare pavement can and will do serious
 damage to your driveline.  Use the 4WD off road and you will probably
 hear the rumbling sound and feel the vibration go away, and hope that you
 have not all ready done damage to your truck!!
 Jeff jeff4cars@juno.com1989 SR5 V6 Extra Cab, 5-speed, 90,000 miles,4"
 Trailmaster Lift, 33" BFG A/T's on American RacingAlloys, Go Rhino!
 Chrome Nerf Bars, GTS all around,Sony CD-Player w/D-Bass
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 00:16:28 -0500
 From: Chris & Nicki Yorke  Subject: Vibration
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Bouganim, Jeff wrote:> I recently bought a '95 4runner and have a basic question being new to>> 4wd.>> When I accelerate with the 4wd on, I get a slight vibration the harder> I> press on the accelerator.   The vibration only occurs when the> engine/trans are under load and disappears once I'm moving above> 45mph.> It's almost a rumbling type sound with some vibration.  I'm trying the>> truck on pavement but only when it's raining...thinking dry pavement> might cause it?>> Is some vibration normal? or is something wrong?>> My second question is about the diffrential locks.  My truck came with>> the automatic differential locks.  Can someone explain how these work> in> basic terms?  I find making turns with the 4wd much harder, but have> been told this is normal with them locked.>> Please excuse any ingnorance here on my part.>> jeff.
 Not to be a smart-ass but it would be very wise of you to read your
 owners manual. You should not drive any part time 4WD vehicle in 4wd on
 dry pavement. Yes you will get vibration when in 4wd there are more
 drivetrain parts in use etc etc.
 Chris
 yorke@bellsouth.net
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:46:16 -0500
 From: "John Schultz"  Subject: was whats that?
 To:  It certainly does, at least in the case of the E******R!  I got seriously
 stuck because of that stupid automatic 4wd stuff.  It automatically dug me
 into the sand.
 John
 - ----------> From: Terry & Sandy Johnson > To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: Re: was whats that?> Date: Wednesday, August 20, 1997 11:06 PM>> Steve Capuano wrote:>>>>>>>I am confused how am I being corrupted.Chris>>>yorke@bellsouth.net>>>>>>> If you work for Toyota you SHOULD drive a toyota.  Practice what you
 preach,>> you know that kind of similar philosophy. ;)>>>> Jim on the other hand drives a FORD (Flip Over and Read Directions).>>>> I thought F**D meant Forget Off Road Driving.>> Terry Johnson> Tacoma Seat and Headliner Supplier
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 00:12:33 -0500
 From: Chris & Nicki Yorke  Subject: was whats that?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>>> I thought F**D meant Forget Off Road Driving.>> Terry Johnson> Tacoma Seat and Headliner Supplier
 My brother-in-law has an 88 Ranger with 4in lift 33's 3.73's and
 factory LSD and the first serious trailride I went on he went also and
 he did some pretty outrageous things in it that I would definitely call
 off-road.
 Chris
 yorke@bellsouth.net
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:28:17 -0700
 From: Nick Krest  Subject: what's that?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Steve Capuano  wrote:
 "If you work for Toyota you SHOULD drive a toyota.
 Practice what you preach, you know that kind of
 similar philosophy."
 Nah. When I worked for Dinan (BMW/Mercedes hot-rod shop), every single
 person there, WITHOUT exception, drove a Toyota pickup. No one owned a BMW
 or Mercedes except for me ('57 190SL) and the boss (twin-turbo 633 csi).
 If I worked for Toyota (and had to drive a Toyota), the only current US
 models that would interest me would be the FJ80 and the Supra Turbo. Now if
 I could have ANY current Toyota, I'd have a double-cab diesel Hilux with a
 straight axle front, an FJ70, a Mega Cruiser...
 - Nick

 http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/6694
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:34:42 -0500
 From: "John Schultz"  Subject: whats that?
 To: > I played the same game towing a trailer around with my truck too. Due to> the demands and going to an even larger trailer, I had to go full-size.> You know, like a FORD. There. I said it again. An' I'm not sorry this> time.>> John Schultz said it (sort of). I guess he gets off with parole???
 Yes I did but, the difference is that my comments were derogatory in
 nature.
 John
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 00:03:22 -0500
 From: Chris & Nicki Yorke  Subject: whats that?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I had two FORDS before my Toy, and I would own one again if I wanted,
 but I dont want to. I have no use for a fullsize truck. I can understand
 why Jim would need a FORD, if he is TRYING to pull a trailer with a
 Toyota. I emphasize trying because tht is about all you will do with one
 with a 22R in it.
 Chris
 yorke@bellsouth.net
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 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 18:37:31
 From: Charles  Subject: whats that?(used to be...)
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 08:27 PM 8/20/97 -0700, you wrote:>Uhhh, actually my WIFE drives it. Yeah, thats right uhhh, my WIFE...To>work...and the grocery store...and the feed store...Not me...no...I>drive a Toyota...uh huh...Yep....She just MAKES me dirve the Ford...Yes>siree...>>True story. My daily driver is an '86 2WD truck. Get real, where would I>park a thing that big in all of those compact spaces at work meant for>Toyotas?>>-->Jim Brink
 Don't worry Jim, I've come up with the solution! Just swap in 4 22R's!!! to
 replace the 460 in the Ford. If someone gives you a hard time about driving
 your ford just lift the hood!
 Of course, I don't own no FORD so maybe you could carry some brown paper bags
 with holes cut out for the eyes or something too??? (Hee Hee!!)
 Charles Brooks
 cbrooks1@mail.acilink.net
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 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:30:54 -0700
 From: James Brink  Subject: whats that?(used to be...)
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Charles wrote:> Don't worry Jim, I've come up with the solution! Just swap in 4 22R's!!! to> replace the 460 in the Ford. If someone gives you a hard time about driving> your ford just lift the hood!
 I don't have a 460; it is a PowerStroke turbo diesel. Guess I'd need
 about 10 22Rs to match the torque. Maybe they'd all fit in the bed???
 - --
 Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician
 Manhattan Beach, CA
 brinkjm@earthlink.net                           '86 Std. Bed/32"BFG A/T
 ************************************************************************
 TLCA# 6184/ Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR) / MRVMA-DESERT EXPLORERS
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 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 97 13:45:05 UT
 From: "Richard Springett" <78cruiser@classic.msn.com> To: "Toyota list"  I am about to swap manual hubs from an 86 IFS in place of the autos on my 88.
 I am a little unsure of exactly what I will need other than the new hubs and
 gaskets.  According to page FA-43 of the manual it looks as if the swap will
 require a new thrust washer, adjusting nut, lock washer, and lock nut from the
 outer bearing out. Is this accurate?  Also what is the torque spec for the
 bearings if I have to do all that? Is the bearing preload accomplished by the
 plate washer torque (13 ft-lb) as mentioned on pg FA-41?
 TIA,
 Rick                  88 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd (mine)  31's, Bushwackers, lots
 more soon
 TLCA #5042     94 4Runner SR5 V6 auto (hers) 31" BFG's, 4:88's, Optima, K&N...
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