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Mr. Dune Speaks Out!

Source: Sandsports at Off-Road.com

 

  You know nothing's worse than coming home from a fantastic trip to find out that someone's stolen your stereo and all your favorite CDs...

   I've just gotten back from The Score Tecate' San Felipe 250, a week of hard, fast desert rides, complete  and total hell raising, hedonistic moon howling and the blatant fondling of alcohol numbed college co-eds (Be sure to check out the 300 plus spine tingling photos in my article this month "San Felipe, La Vida Nocha" as well as my write up on San Felipe's killer beach dunes). Needless to say your fearless hero had one of the best times of his jaded and cynical nine lives. In fact after that fifth gear get off at mile 180 or so, I'm down to about two lives left....

   But lest I digress...

   Who stole my stereo you're asking yourselves?

   The BLM, that's who!

   I get home, crack open my email and start the task of sorting through the hundreds of letters. You know, the usual... Some asking for technical help, some telling me I suck, some telling me I rule, some spam from porn sites, a few marriage proposals, one or two were even from females.

    One proposal of marriage was from ORC's august and most famous Sr. Editorial Director and Vice President of Big Wheel 80 Maintenance (be sure to email Hunky with ALL your mini-cycle questions, rick@off-road.com), The one and only Rick "Super Hunky" Sieman. Who it seems developed an unpleasant fascination for photographing my naked derriere' whilst I was sleeping off an all night binge at Rockodile, coercing young college girls into wearing ORC stickers for bikinis , smoking Cohibas, and drinking Dos XX's lager robustly through a beer bong.

   Sorry, I'm digressing again, back to the point! And reading my email...

   When I read a rather benign request from a young man who wanted to know if he'll need a permit to have a little "jam session" with his band for a few friends and family members. Nice, polite kid, I think to myself, "I'll give him the scoop..."

  • Yes, you'll need a permit.

  • You'll also need insurance.

  • And depending on when, where and how many, you may need to pony up some green to the BLM for additional officers to "monitor" the event.

   Now I've had a couple of events in the dunes and complied with the rules so I have a pretty good idea of what to expect...

   The BLM will bust your balls a bit to make sure you're not the spawn of demons or trailer park trash that's going to leave behind mountains of spent cans of Old Milwaukee riddled with bullet holes. Then they'll cough up the permit...

   The nice young man sends me an email, thanking me for my sage wisdom, and off he goes to contact the BLM...

    The next days mail brings a most disturbing communication...
(This is a forwarded reply, so you'll have to read the entire thread, BLM responses are in red).

Subj: Fwd: Permit for live music....
Date: 3/20/00 4:47:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: RJenk49957@aol.com
To: mrdune@off-road.com

Wow......permits are easy to get huh? LOL Look at this response from the BLM.........sheese, maybe we play lousy old Rock & Roll but I've seen convicted felons get less than this.........
By the way, your response to MdnghtMike's request to be removed from the mailing list was right on target!!

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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: Permit for live music....
Date: 3/20/00 9:33:26 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Manuela_Johnson@ca.blm.gov
To: rjenk49957@aol.com
CC: Walter_Gabler@ca.blm.gov, Robert_Zimmer@ca.blm.gov

In response to your request to have a "jam" session in the dunes, groups of  live music are not authorized in the ISDRA . If you go ahead and have live  music, the ramifications are Citation and/or arrest with the possibility of 1 year in jail and up to $100,000 fine.
Plus there may be civil penalties.

Should you have any questions, please call Walt Gabler at (760) 337-4474 or Robert Zimmer at (760) 337-4407.

  • Now I guess this one doesn't have the horsepower to threaten nice young men that ask legitimate questions with jail time and six figure fines. So she had to forward it to her boss Manuela Johnson, who would be well served by a course from Dale Carnegie in "How To Win Friends And Influence People."

03/20/2000 08:06 AM
Valerie Kastoll
To: Manuela Johnson/CASO/CA/BLM/DOI@BLM
cc:
Subject: Permit for live music....
---------------------- Forwarded by Valerie Kastoll/CASO/CA/BLM/DOI on 03/20/2000 08:10 AM

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RJenk49957@aol.com on 03/18/2000 06:51:32 AM
To: Valerie Kastoll/CASO/CA/BLM/DOI@BLM
cc:

Subject: Permit for live music....

After reading the "Glamis Rules & Reg's" posted on Mr. Dunes web site, I see that you are supposed to have a permit to operate a "public address system" on BLM lands.
If my buddy's & I want to have a little "jam" session (far away from popular camp sites, of course) I need to get a permit?
What, exactly, qualifies as a "public address system"?
What are the possible ramifications of not having a permit?
If I get one, does the 10pm "sound curfew" still apply?
Is there any cost involved?
How do we apply for one?
Thanks in advance for your help!! :-)


   So here we go, the BLM says, "No tunes in the Dunes." I gotta tell that sure shocked the the shit outta me! Where the hell did they come up with that? And that response from Manuela Johnson? What does she eat? Nails, broken glass and babies for breakfast? Who torqued her underwear to 300ft-lbs with an air impact wrench? Man, that letter puckered my burrito so hard I could pass diamonds.

  And so I retired to my vast legal library to peruse the Federal Codes, in search of the documentation to support their ban on "live music."

   Zip, zero, nada, nil, and did I mention nothing?

  I find rules about sound curfews, public address systems, being courteous with noise levels, all kinds of stuff.

   What it boils down to is; For a band to play on public or government owned lands all you need is a permit, insurance and possibly to pay for security, either private or lease officers from the governing body...

   A lot of concerts take place on public and government lands, even some really huge ones. In fact they happen ALL the time...

   Time for Mr Dune to throw down the gauntlet...

Subj: Re: Permit for live music....
Date: 3/20/00 5:59:11 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: mrdune@off-road.com
To: Manuela_Johnson@ca.blm.gov
To: Walter_Gabler@ca.blm.gov
To: Robert_Zimmer@ca.blm.gov, Elayn_Briggs@ca.blm.gov

Sirs and Madams,
   I was very surprised to read this almost vicious response to a genuinely sincere request for information on securing a permit. With responses like this it is no small wonder relations between the BLM and park visitors are at an all time low.

   I am curious as to where it states in writing that "live music" is expressly forbidden within the ISDRA (or any adjacent publicly owned lands) and what exactly constitutes "live music." You may forward this document to me via Email attachment or by fax to my offices at Off-Road.com.

Following below is the thread of communications I'm referring to...

I look forward to a prompt reply,
Sincerely,

Ed Wissing
aka Mr. Dune
VP, Director of Sales and Marketing
Sr Editor/Sand Sports Editor/Columnist
Advanstar Communications, Inc.
Off-Road.Com
The Off Road Network!
http://www.off-road.com
http://www.mrdune.com


   Now gang, you're gonna love this complete BS I got in response, talk about typical bureaucratic, go away and play in the traffic, double speak... And Manuela, just a tip... When writing an editor, use spell check.
Subj: Re: Permit for live music....
Date: 3/21/00 8:35:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Manuela_Johnson@ca.blm.gov
To: mrdune@off-road.com
CC: Walter_Gabler@ca.blm.gov, Robert_Zimmer@ca.blm.gov, Larry_Caffey@ca.blm.gov

Dear Mr. Dune:

By no means was my response intended to be vicious. Simply, all I did was answer your questions. You asked what the ramifications would be if you had live music without a permit and I provided you with an approriate (sic) answer. If you look at the Supplementary Rules: 43 CFR 8365.1-6, (listed in the Federal Register) you can find the appropriate citatations (sic). I did not go into details with the remainder of your questions because the activity you requested information on is not a legal activity in the Imperial Sand Dunes Recreation Area (ISDRA).

Should you have additional questions, please contact Walt Gabler at (760) 337-4474 or Robert Zimmer at (760) 337-4407.

Thank you.
Manuela


   Now it seems Ms. Johnson feels she can patronize Mr Dune with platitudes, and by quoting chapter and verse from the Federal Register.

   Shame, shame, shame on you Manuela!

   You should have come better prepared to the debate!

   Maybe that, "Here I'll spout off some mysterious Citation number and he'll be too lazy to look it up, and meanwhile he'll vanish off the planet." crap works on the average citizen that demands the BLM prove they have the legal right to make up draconian regulations at will.  But it doesn't work on me...

   You see I had already read the entire Federal Register's content regarding visitor rules, regulations, punishments and procedures as it relates to the Department of the Interior, Bureau of Land Management before I wrote to her. Knowing full well I'd be given some gobbledy-gook like this in response. (If you would like to download the pertinent set of CFR's as a .doc file Click Here! It's a good idea to know the law.)

   What's worse is she didn't even pay attention to the the thread of communication and the obvious fact that it wasn't me that asked for the permit. One more time, shame on you Manuela!

   Now before you read my response to her completely inane letter, I want to fill you in on what Title: 43 CFR Section 8365.1-6 really says...

Subpart 8365--Rules of Conduct

Sec. 8365.1-6 Supplementary rules.

The State Director may establish such supplementary rules as he/she deems necessary. These rules may provide for the protection of persons, property, and public lands and resources. No person shall violate such supplementary rules.

(a) The rules shall be available for inspection in each local office having jurisdiction over the lands, sites or facilities affected;

(b) The rules shall be posted near and/or within the lands, sites or facilities affected;

(c) The rules shall be published in the Federal Register; and

(d) The rules shall be published in a newspaper of general circulation in the affected vicinity, or be made available to the public by such other means as deemed most appropriate by the authorized office


   Ok, blah, blah, blah...

   The "Director" can make up some new rules, with some strict controls on justifying them, publicizing them, and publishing them, in the Federal Register! Then they must be posted conspicuously in the office (and pursuant to 43 CFR 8365.2 at the entrance to any developed sites or areas). Funny, I haven't seen "No live music," on the signs, have you?

   Now I didn't ask Manuela to demonstrate the legal precedence to make new rules, did I? I asked her for the written regulation itself.

   So knowing from her first response to me that she just ain't paying attention, I go into a little more detail...

Subj: Re: Permit for live music....
Date: 3/21/00 3:04:11 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: mrdune@off-road.com
To: Manuela_Johnson@ca.blm.gov
CC: Walter_Gabler@ca.blm.gov
CC: Robert_Zimmer@ca.blm.gov, Larry_Caffey@ca.blm.gov
CC: Elayn_Briggs@ca.blm.gov
CC: lenhart@off-road.com

Ms. Johnson,

To clarify these communications;

   It wasn't I that requested information on securing a permit. The gentleman that did so, had contacted me initially and asked if the BLM would require a permit. I stated that it was probable they would, as well as be required to obtain insurance and possibly be required to pay for additional BLM Rangers and/or private security to ensure a safe and controlled event (depending on it's size and format).

    It is our intention at Off-Road.com to work with the BLM as well as ISDRA visitors to educate and promote compliance with the rules at the ISDRA and an atmosphere of good will towards "good people" and of zero tolerance towards the recent onslaught of thugs and gang bangers that have unfortunately discovered our playground. The inherent dangers of OHV use and the well known rowdy behaviors of the average ISDRA visitor are risks we not only accept, but embrace. This is a place we come to blow off steam and live on the edge. Where we can play hard and not endanger anyone but ourselves. We will accept a little insanity, we will not accept theft, assault, or criminal activity.

   Recently the BLM's enforcement attitudes have changed direction towards these ends, and we at ORC have taken notice. In fact we are preparing an article for the April issue in praise of your recent efforts in using discretion in contacts with those that "step over the line." And using the full force of the law to prosecute those punks that commit crimes and provide dangers to park visitors, they are unwilling to accept.

   The gentleman that contacted me was so disturbed by your arbitrary and almost hostile response that he cc'd me a copy of your email reply to his request for info. I was also disturbed.

   Had you inquired what type of event he was planning, what he had in mind, etc. And worked with him to sponsor a a safe and fun event, my reaction would have been far different. Is it a couple of guys playing Eagles tunes? Or a grundge band looking to host a mosh pit? These are valid questions... To arbitrarily forbid musical performances on public lands has no precedence. To the contrary, many musical events are routinely hosted on public and government lands, with excellent results.

   I merely asked where it was published that "live music" is forbidden at the ISDRA or any adjacent or other public lands. And what exactly constituted "live music" for the purposes of prosecution, imprisonment and/or fines. If I pull out my acoustic guitar for a serenade at the sand drags and someone complains that I sing/play poorly (43 CFR 8365.2-2 --- "disturbs other visitors"), have I violated the law?

   You also informed him that he could be subject to a fine of up to $100,000. This is incorrect, the maximum fine on BLM lands for section 8360 violations is $1,000 (43 CFR 8360.0-7) I'm sure you were just mistaken and not trying to intimidate. If the CFR is wrong on this please provide me with the correct title and section so that I may update my records.

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   I requested you provide me with the published regulation where it stated that "live music" was expressly prohibited:

Pursuant to 43 CFR 8365.2:

Developed recreation sites and areas.
The rules governing conduct and use of a developed recreation site or area shall be posted at a conspicuous location near the entrance to the site or area.

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In response you directed me to:

43 CFR 8365.1-6:

Subpart 8365--Rules of Conduct

Sec. 8365.1-6 Supplementary rules.

The State Director may establish such supplementary rules as he/she deems necessary. These rules may provide for the protection of persons, property, and public lands and resources. No person shall violate such supplementary rules.

(a) The rules shall be available for inspection in each local office having jurisdiction over the lands, sites or facilities affected;

(b) The rules shall be posted near and/or within the lands, sites or facilities affected;

(c) The rules shall be published in the Federal Register; and

(d) The rules shall be published in a newspaper of general circulation in the affected vicinity, or be made available to the public by such other means as deemed most appropriate by theauthorized office.

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Nowhere above does it state an answer to my question.

Once again I ask you to provide me with the documentation to support above subsections (a) and in particular (c), relating to the performance of "live music" being a forbidden activity. Or has the area manager made a ruling contrary to Federal law and procedure in this regard?

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In anticipation of your directing me to:

43 CFR 8365.2-2:

Subpart 8365--Rules of Conduct

Sec. 8365.2-2 Audio devices.

On developed recreation sites or areas, unless otherwise authorized, no person shall:

(a) Operate or use any audio device such as a radio, television, musical instrument, or other noise producing device or motorized equipment in a manner that makes unreasonable noise that disturbs other visitors;

(b) Operate or use a public address system;

(c) Construct, erect or use an antenna or aerial for radiotelephone, radio or television equipment, other than on a vehicle or as an integral part of such equipment.

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It is clear by above that within Federal and ISDRA regulations he could:

(a) Secure a permit. And with the BLM's help and expertise host a successful event.

(b) Host the event without need of permit in an undeveloped recreation site or area (outside of the fee for use area, refer to 43 CFR 8360.0-5(c): definitions of a developed site or area).

(c) Host the event with amplified music but without amplified voice (PA permit required) provided he obeyed the 10 pm sound curfew or hold it in an area so remote as to not "disturb" other park visitors.


I'm sure you are as eager to clarify these issues as we are. I look forward again to your prompt reply.

Ed Wissing
aka Mr. Dune
VP, Director of Sales and Marketing
Sr Editor/Sand Sports Editor/Columnist
Advanstar Communications, Inc.
Off-Road.Com
The Off Road Network!
http://www.off-road.com
http://www.mrdune.com


   Well the BLM must be in a tailspin, they haven't gotten back to me yet (read as "stonewalled" me) and here I am at deadline. If they had a leg to stand on I'm sure I'd have received the documentation by now.    So I gave Walt Gabler a call...

   Now Walt's a decent guy, pretty pleasant in fact. Walt is in enforcement and he doesn't make policy. That's up to the area manager, Elayn Briggs. When I asked him why I was stonewalled, he started mumbling and talking in circles. But I did get an "official" statement out of him...

  "The ban on live music performances is not a law or regulation. It is a policy. We (the BLM) have the right to institute any policies we see fit and to discriminate against anyone in the issuance of a permit, for any reason."

   Now Manuela Johnson told this kid that live music was "illegal." Make one misrepresentation and you could be mistaken, make two and you're a liar. She lied, twice. Live music isn't illegal, it's illegally banned, and the fine is $1,000, not $100,000. I smell a rat. A big fat government rat, the same rat that pisses in our Cheerios every day of the month.

   Do you know what should really piss us all off? The appearance of arrogance on the part of the BLM management, let me rephrase that, their bold faced arrogance...

  • They do not have the right to "make up" new rules as they go along.

  • Not the BLM nor anyone has the right to discriminate against "anyone for any reason." I'm the last one to toot the P.C. horn, but arbitrary discrimination is a federal crime. Period.

  • They work for us, and the law is specific. They must provide us with documentation of regulations by signage, on site documentation, and publication in the Federal Register as well as in print media at the time of adoption, to open the topic up for debate and possible court injunction pending adjudication.

  • They do not have the right to threaten innocent citizens with prosecution  and fines as a response to legitimate questions.

  • They are charged with enforcement of the law, and as such must be held to a higher standard. If they see fit to bend the law to suit their whim the result is anarchy.

 "No matter how important, conspicuous and controversial the issue and regardless of how likely the public is to hold the executive branch politically accountable, an administrative agency's power to regulate in the public interest must always be grounded in a valid grant of authority from Congress."

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor

 
   You know I started this column in a humorous vein, but this really is very serious. Personally, like many of you. I could give a rat's ass if there were live music events in the Dunes, sure once in a while they'd be fun, but so what?

   I'll tell you...

   What I do care about is a bunch of government bullies trying to scare decent kids. Bullies operating outside of the law, trying to push you and I around. The present administration from President Clinton, to the FBI at Ruby Ridge, to the BATF at Waco, and way on down to the lowliest BLM field officers have continually exercised total disregard and disrespect for the Constitution, the will of the American people and the blood our families have spilled in the name of freedom and equality.

   You may not think "Tunes In The Dunes" is a big deal...

   What personal freedom do you have to lose to get off your ass and do something? Or maybe you'll just wait for the jack-booted thugs to drag you off into the cold dark night?

You can do something, you can Speak Out!
You can vote for Bush!
  Mr.Dune

I'm sure the BLM would love to hear from you,  In fact they are sitting at their computers, anxiously awaiting your emails. And at their phones, eager to answer your calls...

Just Click Here to send the BLM a thoughtful note on what you think of them operating outside the law!

Or feel free to call:
Walt Gabler at (760) 337-4474 or Robert Zimmer at (760) 337-4407.

And once again you can download the Federal CFRs if you Click Here!



A note from the Editor… This is my forum, not yours! If you don't like my views or opinions, then get a life!...

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