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Toyota Truck Longer Rear Spring Conversion

Source: Toyota at Off-Road.com
Over the years I've owned my '85 Xtra Cab, I have run several different rear spring configurations: the stock springs, Rancho add-a-leafs, and Downey 3" lift springs. The latter also being supplemented with small blocks and/or longer shackles.

Shortly after buying the truck, I installed the Rancho add-a-leafs that provided about 2.5" of lift. The problem with this setup was that it was extremely stiff, uncomfortable, and had poor travel.


I later swapped over to Downey 3" lift springs. These springs have some nice features such as the military wrap second leaf and teflon sliders. However, myself and others have found that these springs tend to sag after a few years use, even when used per Downeys restrictions (more on this below).

I found when using the Downey springs that I could no longer touch the bump stops on the rear, even with the truck severely twisted up. Downey insists that the thick factory steel load leaf be used on the bottom of their spring pack to prevent the spring from bending backwards.

It is this load leaf that was limiting my compression travel. Removal of this lower leaf allowed for several more inches of compression travel and also lightened the spring rate somewhat, making it more supple for rockcrawling.


Running the Downey 3" springs (load leaf removed) with 2.5" longer than stock shackles yielded me about 10" of true vertical bump stop travel. The ride was great and the suspension articulated very well in the rocks. At the time I was running 10" travel Rancho RS5000s. The shocks were being pushed to their limits of travel. However, the springs were also limiting travel (at droop) due to their limited arch length.

Flatter springs offer greater droop capabilities than those with more arch. But......due to the frame and spring mount design, Toyota trucks must run fairly deeply arched springs. To increase my droop capabilities, I needed a rear spring that was longer. Custom springs are expensive and if you don't get exactly what you want the first pass, the final price goes up even more.

The solution I settled on uses a set of modified Mazda 2WD truck springs and new forward mounts on the frame to accommodate the longer springs. Rear truck springs are approximately 47" long (arch length) and the Mazda springs are almost 52" long.

Toyota truck springs also have the center hole offset such that the length of spring behind the hole is about 4" longer than the length of spring in front of the hole. The Mazda springs have the hole much closer (about 1/2" offset) to the center of the spring.

As such, it was possible to mount up the Mazda main leaf without moving the center hole, and leave the rear shackle in the factory location on the frame. The only modification needed was to provide another forward mount on the frame, forward of the original one. A new pair of spring mounts was purchased from Toyota, modified slightly, and welded onto the frame.


Photo shows new mount (red arrow) welded in place and side plate (blue arrow) bolted in place.


The original mounts were left in place for several reasons. Leaving the original mounts on provided for reversibility, and attempts to remove such mounts from another frame had proved to be very difficult. Once the new mounts were welded to the frame, a 3/16" steel plate was added to the side of the mount connecting the old and new mounts together. This plate simply bolts in place using the old and new forward spring bolts.

This provides a small improvement in strength, but mostly provides for a cleaner look. Finally, the holes in the newly added mounts were drilled to accommodate 5/8" grade 8 bolts.

A total of four Mazda spring packs were purchased, and they were modified to increase the spring rate and increase the arch slightly. Leaves were mixed to build the following spring pack:

Spring Pack Make-up
Leaf Source Thickness Length
Main Mazda main leaf .280 inches 52 inches
2nd Mazda second leaf .240 inches 46 inches
3rd Mazda second leaf (cut) .240 inches 43 inches
4th Mazda third leaf .280 inches 36 inches
5th Downey lower leaf .200 inches 20 inches
(lengths are approximate arch distances)


This pack provides about 3" of lift (over stock) when combined with the approximate 1.5" of front mount drop (due to the new location of the new mount), and a 2" longer than stock shackle. Based on your desired spring rate and lift, you can build a spring pack to suit your needs.


NOTE: This modification should be done in conjunction with using longer rear shackles as the front mount relocation will cause the pinion flange to drop downward and may introduce driveline vibration. Longer shackles can be fabricated from 2" x 3/8" flat bar.


With the front mount lowered, the springs can be run somewhat flatter to achieve the same lift as without the modification. This allows the spring to move more smoothly and have increased droop capabilities.



With this spring configuration, vertical travel movement has been increased to 13-14". Rancho RS9012 shocks were installed during the spring swap. The lower shock mounts were reused, but new custom upper mounts were required.

These new mounts were placed up higher towards the bottom of the bed and were moved forward/backward to lay the shocks down slightly more. Rubber bushings were used to allow supple movement at the shock eyes.

Depending on your current setup, extension of the brake line and cable(s) may be necessary due to the increased droop capability. Also, depending on leaf pack thickness, new u-bolts may be required.




Note also that the rear axles used on IFS trucks are 3 inches wider than those used on live axle trucks. Depending on your axle width, tire size, and wheel offset you may have fender or frame clearance problems when trying to gain long travel. You may find the tire on the side under compression hitting either the fender or the frame rail under extreme twist conditions. Check it out carefully!

A QUICK LOOK AT THE RESULTS



If you modify your suspension using some of these ideas, or others of your own, please let me know the results of your work. I'm interested in any refinements or other ideas you may have discovered. Thanks........Jay
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