LandCruisers Digest    Sat,  3 May 97 14:00:02 (HST)  Volume 2 : Issue 242
 Today's Topics:
 3 door LandCruiser 90 Series
 60 Series shackle reversal? (2 msgs)
 70 series PTO winch?
 Acoustical Cruiser ramblings (was electric)
 Bandeirante is an FJ40
 bio stuff
 brake booster adjustment
 can someone ID this truck?
 Cruiser
 Detroit vs Lockrite
 Diesel engines
 Diesel prices
 Electric 'Cruiser Ramblings
 FJ55/60
 FWD problem ?
 Generic shifter boots... (2 msgs)
 Generic shifter boots... Downey
 Happy FJ60! Tires, Old Man Emu, Warden... thanks!
 I want to see some of these wagons!
 LandCruisers Digest
 List decal
 Parting out 8 Landcruiser FJ40s
 Quietest 2F I almost heard!
 Shifter Boots (2 msgs)
 Side spring mount bracket? (3 msgs)
 Soft Top
 Toyota CD ROM (3 msgs)
 U-haul TLC (2 msgs)
 Uhaul Update (5 msgs)
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 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 12:08:18 -0700
 From: Ian Staines  Subject: 3 door LandCruiser 90 Series
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Interesting to note that the LandCruiser 90 is now being offered in a 3
 door model.  Acutally, the 4 door version is listed as a 95 Series.  See
 the Toyota Italy WWW site.
 http://www.politecnos.it/autotech/landcruiser/index.html
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 Richmond, BC  Canada
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 13:26:31 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Henry Cubillan  Subject: 60 Series shackle reversal?
 To: Brian Steen  Brian: When you said the "recent" ManAFre catalog, is that the thick one
 with a rigged 80 in front and a red 40 in the back? Been out for about a
 year, maybe more? If there's a more recent one, I would like to order it.
 Henry
 PS: What about Specter? I was told that they were coming out with a new
 catalog sometime in April, but I haven't heard anything else. The latest
 one I have is the camo one. Again, if they have a new one I would like to
 order it.
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 19:31:52 +0000
 From: Brian Steen  Subject: 60 Series shackle reversal?
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 At 05:26 PM 5/3/97 +0000, you wrote:>Brian: When you said the "recent" ManAFre catalog, is that the thick one>with a rigged 80 in front and a red 40 in the back? Been out for about a>year, maybe more? If there's a more recent one, I would like to order it.
 Umm.. The '96 catalog I believe. Two FJ80's on the front, a smaller pic of a
 red 40, and some 80's on the back. I have no other....>Henry>>PS: What about Specter?
 Specter it seems is perfectly happy with STOCK Toyota parts. They don't sell
 V8 kits or anything, and not even saginaw kits for FJ40s. I'd doubt they
 have anything that Toyota wouldn't put on Land Cruisers....
 I was told that they were coming out with a new>catalog sometime in April, but I haven't heard anything else. The latest>one I have is the camo one. Again, if they have a new one I would like to>order it.
 I've got the camo one. Anybody else heard of anything?
 Brian Steen
 steen-wy@worldnet.att.net
 1973 FJ55-LG
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 20:14:20 +0000
 From: Willem-Jan Markerink  Subject: 70 series PTO winch?
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 On  2 May 97 at 19:30, Rory Arms wrote:> On Fri, 2 May 1997, Willem-Jan Markerink wrote:>>> Btw, our HJ-60 has the PTO cover on the 5sp; our HDJ-80 does not....>> Can't remember if all older models had the PTO cover>> default....anyone?>> No cover means no PTO; you need to swap the entire box in that case....> I think the rule on 80 series is if it has a full-time tcase it doesn't> have PTO access, but it does if it has the part time tcase. I've noticed> that the mech winch on the 80 series seems to come on the GX, which is the> middle trim, and electric winch on the VX.
 Nope, all trims, Standard/GX/VX/Sahara, can be had in both full time
 and part time 4wd (Standard-full time, even TD's, are available in
 Austria, Belgium and Iceland at least; Sahara-part time is available
 in the Gulf states (not sure whether they call it Sahara or not, but
 with twin-airco's and a fridge I would love to have this trim!).
 A mechanical PTO on a full time 80 has been spotted down under in
 mining industry (after which it was also discovered that ARB made a
 bar for it), and in France (where I spotted the most factory winched
 80's) they only have full time systems AFAIK (same in Belgium,
 Holland, Switzerland, Germany and Austria).
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 Bye,
 _/      _/       _/_/_/_/_/       _/_/_/_/_/
 _/  _/  _/               _/       _/  _/  _/
 _/  _/ illem    _/     _/ an    _/  _/  _/ arkerink
 _/_/_/
 The desire to understand
 is sometimes far less intelligent than
 the inability to understand
 [note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
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 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 09:46:13 +0100
 From: kerry@technomorph.com
 Subject: Acoustical Cruiser ramblings (was electric)
 To: Cruiser List  "Andrew H. Litkowiak" wrote:>Good idea Morgan, but,>If you speed up the tape, you'll get a higher pitched sound, like a guy>on helium, or maybe Minnie Mouse Cruiser.
 Actually you can get away with this effect to a certain extent with
 engine sounds as the timbre (color) and pitch don't chipmunk too
 bad.=A0 I use this technique a fair amount when trying to get vehicles
 sounding like they are speeding up/slowing down.>Here's what you do. Insert microphone, but pipe it into a laptop with a>way cool sophisticated sysnthisizer set up. Put that Dino burner
 through>an incredible range of excercises. I suggest you make your recording>going to, participating in and returning from GSMTR.
 Why not record a diesel?=A0 Actually once your set up and in search of
 sounds I have recordings of my diesel.=A0 Some without a muffler!
 Those recording roar.=A0 You can here them in upcoming movie releases
 of "Hard Core Logo" as the punk bands van and "Air Bud" as the jalopy.
 Do not put microphone in muffler.=A0 Your muffler is like a trumpet and
 the sound will sound better some distance away from the muffler.
 A PZM microphone under the hood works well for an engine accent.
 But nothing beat Germany engineered Neuman RSM191 stereo.>Take your digital recording, link it in with sensors for rpm, torque,>angle,=A0 axle travel, etc. Have the sound generator emit the appropriat=
 e>sound at the appropriate points. You could have mud setting, highway>setting, urban torture, rock crawling. A great excuse to head out west>for some sand settings.
 For you playback system you may want to consider Dolby AC-3 encoding
 it to give you 5 channels of full frequency digital playback and 1
 seperate
 channel for the subwoofer.=A0 In this case the system can be designed to
 have a serperate sound playback for engine type, tire/surface, muffler
 hell may as well throw in some ambiences for those surround speakers
 too!
 Hmmm where are we wheeling today, Australia, Africa....Swampers of BFGs?
 ....Diesel/350/2F....Now we need someone to design a SMELL playback
 system
 so that we can get a good woof of that DIESEL smell!
 Kerry Uchida
 1980 BJ40 LandCruiser
 (Get's me to those remote recording spots!)
 "Coastal Cruisers" TLCA#3564
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 13:16:28 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Henry Cubillan  Subject: Bandeirante is an FJ40
 To: TLCA List  While surfing the net today (procrastinating instead of writing papers),
 I found the data for TOYOTA MOTOR CO.'s overseas production, and for
 Brazil they have production figures for the Bandeirante, which THEY
 specify is the Land Cruiser 40 Series.
 I guess if it's good enough for Toyota, it's good enough for me.
 Henry J. Cubillan
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:05:39 -0500
 From: farmboy@sover.net
 Subject: bio stuff
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Name: Walter "Tyke" Moses
 City & State: North Pownal, Vt.
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: farmboy@sover.net
 Land Cruiser(s) year & model: '64 FJ40L
 Are you a TLCA Member : yes  #3550
 Age: 28
 Occupation: jack of all trades, master of none, a little of this and some
 of that
 Marital Status: not
 Hobbies: Rebuilding old rust buckets
 How did you find out about the Land Cruiser Mailing List: just sort of
 popped up in my e-mail
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: I bought my Land Cruiser four
 years ago for the sum of $850.00. It was totally trashed. The tub was
 trashed, the frame cracked, the motor spun a bearing, the tranny jumped out
 of 2nd gear, one out of the eight wheel cylinders worked but leaked,  the
 35 BFG's had torn holes in the fenders and ripped the tie rod ends to bits
 and not one light worked, most were MIA. The body was so filled with mud,
 sticks and leaves that I had to use a shovel to get to the floor. The good
 news; the windshield frame with the crank vent and the heavy duty radiator
 were still intact. So thats what I started with.
 After many moons and lots and lots of work and money I have been driving
 it daily for three and half years. A partial list of improvements over the
 last four years: 16 gauge hand built body tub, fully cased frame w/ added
 cross members, dual batteries, chevy alternator,added a 4 speed, rebuilt
 the original engine three years ago, yes I drove for six months with a
 thump in the lower end, I was poor,  weber carb,  four tube header, Mallory
 distributer, Jacobs, shackle reversal ( not what its cracked up to be),
 2.5" rear springs hanging from custom shackles and shackle mounts, 36"
 Buckshot radials, Auburn Gear LSD in front, ARB in the rear, power
 steering, and a Ramsey after market PTO winch  and drive dating back to
 1965. All this not to mention the brakes, steering components, electrical
 work and cosmetics.
 Sorry about the length, but as I stated, this is a daily driver, it
 does go off road often, and has never let me down.
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 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 12:21:37 +0000
 From: sbever@jeffnet.org
 Subject: brake booster adjustment
 To: buell ,
 Buell Wrote:> Hi!> Can anyone tell me what the approved, tried & tested method for adjusting> and installing a used brake booster. My first go resulted in all wheels> locking up and me having to reduced the built up pressure from the main> brake lines at the master-pump. After that it ran okay for a few miles> more and then locked again.
 Hmm.. You should check the pushrod length.  If the rod is adjusted too long,
 it will be pushing on the piston in the m/c before you push the pedal.  You
 should be able to put the m/c on the booster without it touching the
 pushrod at all.  If there is any resistance as you place it on the four bolts,
 that will be an obvious clue to reduce the length.  Adjustment for the rod is
 accomplished by slipping it out of the booster and spinning the capnut
 inward.  I beleive clearance is supposed to be something like 6mm, but you
 could consult a haynes manual or something.>> Thanks>> Ranjan Buell> srbuell@eureka.lk> Scott
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 15:21:31 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Anand Shah  Subject: can someone ID this truck?
 To: Landcruisers@tlca.org
 Hey guys and Sister Annie,
 I finally put up a web page, simple but it let me procrastinate for a
 good amount of time..
 On it, I've got this pic of a 40 that is rolled over (at moab) and has a
 very odd grill... has anyone ever seen this truck?  Or better yet, do any
 of you own it?  It looks a little like the Bandeirante facade...
 Oh, you can check out pics of my new, and only truck while you're at it...
 http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~crshah
 Anand
 '77 (350)J40
 happy to hoard one
 hoping to find a cheap FJ45 top
 4 exams and a paper away from my 40.
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 15:10:21 -0400
 From: "mberube"  Subject: Cruiser
 To:  Hi, please unsubscribe me to the mail list.
 Thank you.
 Mike,
 Courrier E-Mail : mberube@quebectel.com
 gorg@globetrotter.qc.ca
 tlcmike@globetrotter.qc.ca
 shirvi@globetrotter.qc.ca
 Page Web      :   http://www.quebectel.com/gt/usagers/mberube/index.htm
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 09:38:58 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Iowntlc@aol.com
 Subject: Detroit vs Lockrite
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Hi all,
 Just had to add my $500 worth on this thread.
 It takes 2 LR to make a Detroit. The Detroit has much better manners
 on the street.Have you ever done a slow speed tight turn with a LR in the
 rear? Like parking at the store? JERK,JERK,JERK!
 I'm on my second detroit(first was in my toyota pickup),you install
 them and forget about them. They are almost indestructible.
 No I don't work for them.If I did I would have one in the frt. by
 now.(Honey, our 10 yr anniversary is coming up!)
 Now I have to gather all my fire extingishers!
 Bob Laus #2582
 70 fj-40  350,sm420, DETROIT, spring over 33's , going wheeling in
 Farmington NM in 3 weeks
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 11:28:29 +0000
 From: mike@headwaters.com
 Subject: Diesel engines
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org> I wish I knew.  We've heard a lot about 'jake brakes' in this ng.  Can> anyone give us a good explaination of how one works in a heavy truck?
 www.jakebrake.com
 /---------------------------------------------------/
 Mike Graham, TLCA #5047             Ontario, Canada
,  1981 BJ42 24V Diesel Land Cruiser "The Chew Toy"
 1988.5 Suzuki Samurai JX "Super Smurf"   Find the ORDFAQ at  Diesel Technical LandCruiser list -  ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 10:49:52 -0500
 From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak"  Subject: Diesel prices
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 mike@headwaters.com wrote:>>> U-haul or Ryder place and renting the biggest box truck they had.  Now of>> coures, I would take my drill (absolute fun to get throught the airport>> X-ray machine)>>   No problem if it's in baggage; big problem if it's carry-on.>>> and when I got the truck, drill holes for eyebolts to secure.>>   You would find yourself paying oodles of dough to the rental> company after they found holes in their rig.  Just set the parking> brake, or put the wheels inside old tires or something.>> Just measure and get the smallest> diesel truck you can (better on fuel, unless you're driving through> uneducated areas where diesel is expensive).
 Most places in the Chicago area, diesel is a few pennies MORE expensive
 than regular unleaded. I'm not sure if its local, state or federal, but
 the total tax per gallon approaches 50 cents. That's almost 40% of the
 total fuel cost. In addition, the local stations and the refineries are
 making big, big profits on diesel.
 5-10 years ago, there was a 20%-30% savings per gallon between diesel
 and gasoline. The refining costs for diesel haven't changed in relation
 to gasoline, so I assume the price difference goes into the profit
 pocket. Take the same gallon of Diesel, tag it for agriculture use or
 heating oil and you can get it for less than a dollar a gallon.
 Between taxes and price gouging, diesel ain't the deal it used to be. Of
 course, you still can't beat that 23mpg I get from my diesel Land
 Cruiser. Ow, ow, ow...quit smacking me with that 2F motor.
 Andy Litkowia
 2598
 1980 BJ40 (amoung the many)
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 20:14:21 +0000
 From: Willem-Jan Markerink  Subject: Electric 'Cruiser Ramblings
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Why not strive for a hybrid powerplant?
 There is plenty of room for a nice stationary diesel in the back,
 coupled with a beefy alternator.
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 Bye,
 _/      _/       _/_/_/_/_/       _/_/_/_/_/
 _/  _/  _/               _/       _/  _/  _/
 _/  _/ illem    _/     _/ an    _/  _/  _/ arkerink
 _/_/_/
 The desire to understand
 is sometimes far less intelligent than
 the inability to understand
 [note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 03:22:31 -0600 (MDT)
 From: rlrose@itsnet.com (Royal Rose)
 Subject: FJ55/60
 To:  JQ wrote:
 Dear RL,>I read your article about the FJ55/60, did you work at the LandCruiser>expeditions place (don't know the real name) in Moab, UT?>If you did, you guys had a bunch of FJ55's (white/red) laying around that>didn't looked like they were in service,they looked in pretty decent>shape from a distance>Were they for sale? Where you guys located in the main strip in Moab? (>Near Eddie McStiff's microbrewery) Correct me if I'm wrong.>Thanks for the info.,>>JQ
 The place is called Tag-a-Long Expeditions(used to be T-a-L Tours)and yes I
 worked there a few years ago but I still keep in touch.  it is located on
 the main drag.
 the rigs you saw may or may not have been in service. it depends on the time
 of year. if it wasn't tourist season the most of the rigs are taken off the
 road ti save on insurance.  thre used to be about 15 FJ55's but they sold
 all of the pre 76 models.  the remaining 7-10 rigs are slowly being retored
 as they have recieved TONS of abuse.  they are being painted all white with
 aluminum panels to protect all of the lower sheet metal.  The company has
 also started to use 4x4 converted vans and a couple of suberbans for the
 easier trails as they increase the guide/passenger ratio thus lowering costs
 and increasing profits.  a few years ago they were considering dumping all
 of the cruisers for subs. but I convinced him that half of the appeal of the
 tour was to be able to go out in a rig that had that exotic expedition look
 to it. (you know someting you see in those PBS shows about africa)  most of
 our business(85%) was european tourists anyway and they were more familiar
 with TLCs.
 Royal 73 FJ55
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 20:14:21 +0000
 From: Willem-Jan Markerink  Subject: FWD problem ?
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 On  2 May 97 at 19:11, Joe Lukas wrote:> I have a '68 and mine used to do this also.  It was a vacuum leak.  A> very small one, but still a leak.  Good luck in hunting it down.  I> guess that depends on if you have a vacuum system or not.
 Don't rule out a bad vacuum pump, after you consumed all vacuum by
 braking just before engaging. Not sure if the test is identical for
 all vehicles, pumps and vacuum-tank sizes, but I believe it should
 manage 4 full brake compressions while idling.
 Btw, the Nippondenso alternator catalog also showed parts for
 rebuilding some Toyota vacuum pumps. Not for the 2H and later diesel
 engines, nor for 24V systems though. Anyone ever done a pump rebuild
 on those?
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 Bye,
 _/      _/       _/_/_/_/_/       _/_/_/_/_/
 _/  _/  _/               _/       _/  _/  _/
 _/  _/ illem    _/     _/ an    _/  _/  _/ arkerink
 _/_/_/
 The desire to understand
 is sometimes far less intelligent than
 the inability to understand
 [note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
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 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 11:11:55 -0500
 From: Tim Bridges <76fj40@cypherweb.com> Subject: Generic shifter boots...
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 At 10:44 AM 5/2/97 -0400, Steve Helmreich wrote:>The latest Downey catalog shows some 'generic' shifter>boots for use in vehicles with non-standard shifters>or floorpans, etc.  They looked fairly nice and were>reasonably priced.  I haven't seen these in earlier>catalogs.>> Are you sure this is Downey??  I called them and they thought I was crazy.
 Said they sure wish they had them.  Either you made a mistake in thinking
 it was Downey or they have a real problem in customer service.
 - -- tim bridges
 76fj40@cypherweb.com
 TLCA #2543
 '76 FJ40, Saginaw PS, ARB Rear, 33X12.50s, Weber 38MM, OOC Distrubutor, Al tub
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 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 12:32:23 -0400
 From: Michael Greenway  Subject: Generic shifter boots...
 To: /c=us/admd=telemail/prmd=trw/o=/dd.rfc-822=76fj40.cypherweb.com/@TRWMAIL.cl.trw.com (a)>Are you sure this is Downey??  I called them and they thought I was>crazy. Said they sure wish they had them.  Either you made a mistake in>thinking it was Downey or they have a real problem in customer>service.
 I have the "black" Downey catalog.
 It lists on page 41 a Universal Boot
 Part number 33555-46102   $24.95
 Good luck and see ya at GSMTR
 Michael Greenway
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 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 12:24:10 +0000
 From: sbever@jeffnet.org
 Subject: Generic shifter boots... Downey
 To: Steve Helmreich , LandCruisers@tlca.ORG
 Steve Wrote:> The latest Downey catalog shows some 'generic' shifter> boots for use in vehicles with non-standard shifters> or floorpans, etc.  They looked fairly nice and were> reasonably priced.  I haven't seen these in earlier> catalogs.
 Steve,
 How can I get a Downey catalog?> steve helmreich
 Scott
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 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 08:06:48 -0700
 From: Ian Staines  Subject: Happy FJ60! Tires, Old Man Emu, Warden... thanks!
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Acutally, there are lots of tires in the 16" size, it is rims that are hard
 to find.  (-:  I notice that even the new RAV4 has 16" rims.  They are even
 steel on the some models.  No they will not work on a LC, I checked.
 At 11:05 PM 5/1/97 +0100, you wrote:>Since I have some pretty nice Michelin 31x10.5 LTXs (not A/T) I will>sleep on the tire issue a while... but am inclined toward the 32x11.5s>>Rim 16", I was told, are less common and can thus become a drag...
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 Toyota Land Cruiser WWW page    **** NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS ****
 Richmond, BC  Canada
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 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 15:17:37 -0400
 From: Ron Kownacki  Subject: I want to see some of these wagons!
 To: landCruisers@tlca.org
 I want to see them in real life.
 I am haunted by the memory of seeing some kind of older LC wagon, grey, bench
 seats front and back, std., quite a bit lower center of gravity than my 62.
 (That's one of the most attractive parts to me.)  Pristine condition,
 and it was before I ever owned my LC (or even considered an LC).  I wish
 that I knew what this vehicle was.  Maybe I'd even like to buy it!  If I
 had been thinking, I would have left a note on the windshield.
 Could it be a 60, a 55, a 40?  I just don't know; from the pictures
 at various web sites/books, it's quite hard to tell.  For some reason,
 I suspect it to be a 55, but unsure.
 Does anybody who lives near Pittsburgh, PA own the wagon version of one
 of these models?  I'd really appreciate the chance to visit and learn.
 - - Ron
 Ron Kownacki
 Systems Engineer
 Transarc Corporation
 (412)338-4373
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:51:08 -0400 (EDT)
 From: allyson@erinet.com (Allyson Louthan)
 Subject: LandCruisers Digest
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Dear Sir
 I have enjoyed some of you mailings to me but the amount and most of
 your content is not really what I was looking for.  please take my name off
 your E-Mailing list.  If their is any ploblem please feel free to contact me
 at (937)-228-0898.  If the mailings don't stop I will take further action
 against you and your mail service.
 Thank You
 Crawford Louthan
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 11:56:53 -0400 (EDT)
 From: J Kevin Lancaster  Subject: List decal
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 |From the mail I have recieved this seems to be the consnses:
 LandCruisers@tlca.org
 The living 'Cruiser authority
 Any other ideas/comments?
 Kevin Lancaster, TLCA #3983, Cruisin' since 1982
 '86 FJ60 stock.....'77 FJ40 not stock....'78 FJ40 not assembled
 "Opinions are like children, no matter how much you admire someone else's,
 you can't help liking your own the best."
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 20:14:20 +0000
 From: Willem-Jan Markerink  Subject: Parting out 8 Landcruiser FJ40s
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 On  2 May 97 at 20:12, Andrew H. Litkowiak wrote:> That's all I know, not endorsing or flaming, yada, yada, yada. I'm> sending him a WCLC application so he can recieve that wonderful> newsletter 10 times per year. Also sending him Hoarder application.
 Henry's oukaze was pretty complex, but weren't parts vehicles
 excluded? Henry: this point deserves a more stern standpoint!> Andy Litkowiak> 2598> WCLC Editor> WCLC Temporary Membership Dude> Grand Poobah of the Order of Hoarders (Unless Prelate Henry appoints> another)> Order of the Elongated Cruiser> St. Rudolphs Diesel Order (how the heck does that go, Willem?)
 To apply, thou must take a full diesel drum, drench thy head in it,
 and refrain from washing for the time of 1 (one) week. Thou also must
 take a sniff of fresh diesel each night for the time of 1 (one)
 month, to be lessened to once a week thereafter, for as long as thou
 lives.
 Thou also must put diesel drums in your local church, and ask the
 priest to ignite some diesel-oil candles on St. Rudolph's birthday
 (March 18th (Paris 1858)). Memorial day will be September 30th, as he
 died on that day in 1913, being swept overboard from a boat on the
 North Sea. Some claim he committed suicide after long financial
 twists about patents and licenses. To put his ever wandering soul at
 rest, thou must therefore strive to increase the popularity of the
 diesel engine during thy remaining life, by showing all sinful
 gasoline users the benefits of Rudolph's majestic invention.
 Perhaps a little background on this is appropriate:
 During my tour of duty in the Dutch army, I was assigned as
 driver/medic on a light track. Of course it was a diesel (a Detroit
 5.9L TD (Cummins?)), and I was happily submerged in diesel fumes for
 my entire period (everything better than the medical smell of ether).
 During one of the more thrilling long distance training sessions, we
 had to load the vehicle up with diesel in a very short time. The tank
 openings are almost on top of the vehicle, about 2m above the
 ground, and we had to use a stack load of jerrycan's to fill it up.
 Due to circumstances not worth expanding on, many a liter of diesel
 did not go into the tank opening, but into the sleeve of my
 tank-overall. Needless to say that I spend a very happy next week,
 hallucinating from diesel fumes (it was too darn cold to ditch the
 tank-overall).
 One of my buddies had a similar happy experience, after a fuel line
 inside the track bursted, and drenched his down sleeping bag.
 He had very prosperous dreams he claimed (I resisted sharing his
 sleeping bag though).
 All in all it was a very happy exercise. Everyone smiled, with a
 dizzy glaze in his eyes....8-))
 Did I mention we had diesel furnaces/heaters in those things?
 For one reason or another, these things smell quite different during
 ignition and turn-off. Only a distinction the real gourmet
 appreciates I guess. A must-smell experience for disciples of St.
 Rudolph's Order of Great Diesels.> 1966 FJ45 Short Bed> 1967 FJ45 Long Bed> 1971 FJ40 parts> 1971 FJ40 Soft top, (but the top burned in the garage fire)> 1973 FJ40> 1975 FJ55> 1976 FJ40> 1979 FJ55> 1980 BJ40> 1987 FJ60> Pending 1970 FJ40
 - ------------------------------------------
 Anticipated subtotal: 11
 Well, I guess your lawn mover doesn't get much of a workout anymore,
 does it?....8-))
 - --
 Bye,
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 _/  _/  _/               _/       _/  _/  _/
 _/  _/ illem    _/     _/ an    _/  _/  _/ arkerink
 _/_/_/
 The desire to understand
 is sometimes far less intelligent than
 the inability to understand
 [note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 08:10:05 +0000
 From: mike@headwaters.com
 Subject: Quietest 2F I almost heard!
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org> how quiet and smooth John Byrd's (sp?) cruiser ran.  There was almost no> lifter noise and idle was as smooth as glass.  We questioned him about it> but the only answer we got was "old Japanese secret".
 It's possible he's running a heavy oil; straight 40 or straight 50.
 It's also possible that his valvetrain is way too tight (no lash,
 which is where you get the noise).
 /---------------------------------------------------/
 Mike Graham, TLCA #5047             Ontario, Canada
,  1981 BJ42 24V Diesel Land Cruiser "The Chew Toy"
 1988.5 Suzuki Samurai JX "Super Smurf"   Find the ORDFAQ at  Diesel Technical LandCruiser list -  ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 08:10:05 +0000
 From: mike@headwaters.com
 Subject: Shifter Boots
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org>> ... - can you stick weld vinyl?>> -- tim bridges>> Sure.  Use a pink tipped rubber welding rod and low heat!> jc
 It's not that silly a question actually, Jack.  You can 'weld'
 fibreglass now, so vinyl may be rigFrom landcruisers-errors@unix.off-road.com  Sat May  3 02:23:56 1997
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 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 08:10:04 +0000
 Subject: Re: Oops, correction re: electric 'Cruiser
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 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23)> Oops, that electric motor will produce over 160hp for a few seconds or so,> not like an hour or so like I said. That's peak output, the 80hp is> continuous, 24-hour a day 7-day a week with no fan output. I'll have> forced-air cooling implemented... :)
 How are you going to heat it?
 /---------------------------------------------------/
 Mike Graham, TLCA #5047             Ontario, Canada
,  1981 BJ42 24V Diesel Land Cruiser "The Chew Toy"
 1988.5 Suzuki Samurai JX "Super Smurf"   Find the ORDFAQ at  Diesel Technical LandCruiser list -  ht around the corner.
 /---------------------------------------------------/
 Mike Graham, TLCA #5047             Ontario, Canada
,  1981 BJ42 24V Diesel Land Cruiser "The Chew Toy"
 1988.5 Suzuki Samurai JX "Super Smurf"   Find the ORDFAQ at  Diesel Technical LandCruiser list -  ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 09:11:43 -0500
 From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak"  Subject: Shifter Boots
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Yes, you can stick weld vinyl. If you mean rod and torch when you say
 stick.
 Of course, you don't use a torch, you use a heat gun. And, you must be
 very careful, for if the vinyl ignites, it gives off toxic fumes. Two
 sheets are buuted together, a thin strip is laid between, all are
 heated, a hard plastic sheet with the desire pebble pattern is laid in
 place and pressure applied. Voila, welded vinyl, and you don't even need
 bondo.
 Courtesy of Beth Litkowiak, Plastics specialist extraordinaire.
 Andy Litkowiak
 2598
 mike@headwaters.com wrote:>>>> ... - can you stick weld vinyl?>>> -- tim bridges>>>> Sure.  Use a pink tipped rubber welding rod and low heat!>> jc>>   It's not that silly a question actually, Jack.  You can 'weld'> fibreglass now, so vinyl may be right around the corner.>>  /---------------------------------------------------/>   Mike Graham, TLCA #5047             Ontario, Canada>   , >   1981 BJ42 24V Diesel Land Cruiser "The Chew Toy">   1988.5 Suzuki Samurai JX "Super Smurf"  >   Find the ORDFAQ at >   Diesel Technical LandCruiser list -  ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 11:22:06 -0500
 From: Tim Bridges <76fj40@cypherweb.com> Subject: Side spring mount bracket?
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 At 07:56 PM 5/2/97 -0700, Dana wrote:>>>Hi guys (and gals)!>>I remember some discussion a coupla months ago about some manufacturer>that  had fabricated a mount that holds the springs to the axle, but>doesn't use U-bolts.  The bolts are on the side of the spring pack, and>the only thing under the axle is a smooth plate.> Not quite.  This system does use U-bolts.  They are just cut and stop short
 of the bottom of the spring pack.  You are right that the only thing on the
 bottom of the  springs is a flat plate.>If anyone remembers the name of this set-up, could you please let me know.> 4Wheel and Sport Utility 04/97 lists
 Land Cruiser Advanced Handling Inc.
 1029 SE 24th St
 Albany,OR 97321
 (503)926-8122>Does anyone have these?  Are you happy.> Ordered mine -- if I have them in time for GSMTR, I'll be happy.>I'm gonna go for the OME's and I'd like to do these mounts if possible.>>Thanks for any input.>>Dana>>-->333>> - -- tim bridges
 76fj40@cypherweb.com
 TLCA #2543
 '76 FJ40, Saginaw PS, ARB Rear, 33X12.50s, Weber 38MM, OOC Distrubutor, Al tub
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:33:18 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Henry Cubillan  Subject: Side spring mount bracket?
 To: Tim Bridges <76fj40@cypherweb.com> Is the kit from Land Cruiser Advanced Handling available for the 60 series?
 Henry
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 17:11:58 +0000
 From: Brian Steen  Subject: Side spring mount bracket?
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 At 04:33 PM 5/3/97 +0000, you wrote:>Is the kit from Land Cruiser Advanced Handling available for the 60 series?
 No. The LCAH kit only works on the 40,43,45 AFAIK. I asked about the 55 too,
 but the frame rails are bigger, blah, blah, blah.
 Man-A-Fre said in their recent catalog that they're making a 60 shackle
 reverse kit... Anyone know about this?
 Brian Steen
 steen-wy@worldnet.att.net
 1973 FJ55-LG
 ------------------------------
 Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 21:09:39 -0700
 From: msantana1@worldnet.att.net
 Subject: Soft Top
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Poor Man looking for a soft top...
 Anyone?
 Manny Santana / msantana1@worldnet.att.net / Miami, Florida
 1973/FJ-40/2F/4sp/PS/Springs Over/36-12.50R15 Super Swamper TSL/Ranchos
 All Around/Rear Traction Bars/6K Warn/38MM Weber/Wraped Headers/Dual
 Bats w/Isolator/Hella H4 90-130/Hammerite DK Grn
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 11:20:49 -0400
 From: Rod LaHaise  Subject: Toyota CD ROM
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 At 08:22 AM 5/2/97 -0500, you wrote:>The Toyota CD ROM system can not be read on your conventional computer>unless you have the proper software and (drum roll please) 2, count>them, 2 CD ROM drives. Both CD's must be accessed at the same time in>order for the system to work.
 The dual CD drives are not a problem for me but what is the "proper
 software"? does it come on the disks or what?
 TIA
 Rod
 - ------------------------------------------------
 Rod LaHaise, lcruiser@nbnet.nb.ca
 http://www.off-road.com/~beck
 1986 HJ-60 bone stock 6 cyl diesel
 1980 FJ-40, Fab-Tech Tub, Warn 6000, tilt wheel
 1978 FJ-45 LWB 1 Ton pickup project truck
 - ------------------------------------------------
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 10:54:37 -0500
 From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak"  Subject: Toyota CD ROM
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Rod LaHaise wrote:>> At 08:22 AM 5/2/97 -0500, you wrote:>>>The Toyota CD ROM system can not be read on your conventional computer>>unless you have the proper software and (drum roll please) 2, count>>them, 2 CD ROM drives. Both CD's must be accessed at the same time in>>order for the system to work.>> The dual CD drives are not a problem for me but what is the "proper> software"? does it come on the disks or what?
 Ask your Toyota dealer. Seriously, I'd be surprised if you could get
 your hands on the operating software for the CD system. It's one of
 those corporate security psychosis things. Like a competitor really
 gives a hoot about list prices for Lexus door handles.
 Andy Litkowiak
 2598
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:05:59 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Anand Shah  Subject: Toyota CD ROM
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 On Sat, 3 May 1997, Rod LaHaise wrote:> At 08:22 AM 5/2/97 -0500, you wrote:>>>The Toyota CD ROM system can not be read on your conventional computer>>unless you have the proper software and (drum roll please) 2, count>>them, 2 CD ROM drives. Both CD's must be accessed at the same time in>>order for the system to work.>> The dual CD drives are not a problem for me but what is the "proper> software"? does it come on the disks or what?
 If someone gets a hold, or already has, those CD's.... I have access to a
 couple of CD burners... at the cost of $6 a blank........ and I could add
 the other software to the disk too!
 Anand
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 11:28:30 +0000
 From: mike@headwaters.com
 Subject: U-haul TLC
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org> U-haul or Ryder place and renting the biggest box truck they had.  Now of> coures, I would take my drill (absolute fun to get throught the airport> X-ray machine)
 No problem if it's in baggage; big problem if it's carry-on.> and when I got the truck, drill holes for eyebolts to secure.
 You would find yourself paying oodles of dough to the rental
 company after they found holes in their rig.  Just set the parking
 brake, or put the wheels inside old tires or something.> My question is, providing I had a way to get it in there, do you think it> would fit/work?
 I transported a good-sized Ford 9N tractor in the smallest U-Haul
 truck you can get.  No problem.  Just measure and get the smallest
 diesel truck you can (better on fuel, unless you're driving through
 uneducated areas where diesel is expensive).
 /---------------------------------------------------/
 Mike Graham, TLCA #5047             Ontario, Canada
,  1981 BJ42 24V Diesel Land Cruiser "The Chew Toy"
 1988.5 Suzuki Samurai JX "Super Smurf"   Find the ORDFAQ at  Diesel Technical LandCruiser list -  ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:13:26 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Henry Cubillan  Subject: U-haul TLC
 To: Joe Turpin  Joe Turpin wrote;
 "this is not an FJ40, looks the same, just a little longer..."
 Joe: What did you find? an FJ43? In the US? a 45 troopie? WHAT IS IT?!
 Inquiring minds want to know...
 Henry
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:27:54 -0400 (EDT)
 From: jtoutfit@ols.net (Joe Turpin)
 Subject: Uhaul Update
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Last nite after posting I called Uhaul to get a price on how much the truck
 rental would be.   I was shocked.  To go from South Dakota to North Carolina
 they quoted $1024 for a 26 footer, $893 for a 24 footer, and $842 for a 17
 footer.  Some of the Transporters I have called have been less than that.
 So I guess I'll scrap the U-haul thought.
 Now the second idea I have come up with is this; I'll go up there get the
 Classifieds, buy an older 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck.  Use it to pull it home
 and then sell it when I get back home for what I paid for it or maybe more.
 This would all depend upon getting a good deal on a truck.
 Thanks
 Joe Turpin.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 10:36:24 -0600
 From: John  Subject: Uhaul Update
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Hey Joe,
 Shall I start checking the classifieds for you.  I think that this may work
 for you,  SD being the second lowest per capita income state and all.  I
 have seen some prety nice rigs go cheap.
 I will be going to the store here in a few and Ill pick up a paper and let
 you know what I find.
 John
 At 12:27 5/3/97 -0400, you wrote:>Last nite after posting I called Uhaul to get a price on how much the truck>rental would be.   I was shocked.  To go from South Dakota to North Carolina>they quoted $1024 for a 26 footer, $893 for a 24 footer, and $842 for a 17>footer.  Some of the Transporters I have called have been less than that.>So I guess I'll scrap the U-haul thought.>>Now the second idea I have come up with is this; I'll go up there get the>Classifieds, buy an older 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck.  Use it to pull it home>and then sell it when I get back home for what I paid for it or maybe more.>This would all depend upon getting a good deal on a truck.>>Thanks>Joe Turpin.>>> ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 12:45:41 -0400
 From: Rod LaHaise  Subject: Uhaul Update
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 At 12:27 PM 5/3/97 Joe Turpin wrote:>Last nite after posting I called Uhaul to get a price on how much the truck>rental would be.   I was shocked.  To go from South Dakota to North Carolina>they quoted $1024 for a 26 footer, $893 for a 24 footer, and $842 for a 17>footer.  Some of the Transporters I have called have been less than that.>So I guess I'll scrap the U-haul thought.
 I don't know if you have Ryder truck rental in the US but when I rented my
 19 footer to move to the east coast the total cost of the rental and
 mileage for the 1200 mile trip was under $700.00 CDN and the diesel truck
 only used about $100 in fuel.
 - ------------------------------------------------
 Rod LaHaise, lcruiser@nbnet.nb.ca
 http://www.off-road.com/~beck
 1986 HJ-60 bone stock 6 cyl diesel
 1980 FJ-40, Fab-Tech Tub, Warn 6000, tilt wheel
 1978 FJ-45 LWB 1 Ton pickup project truck
 - ------------------------------------------------
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 14:33:17 -0700
 From: embrey@tidalwave.net (John Embrey)
 Subject: Uhaul Update
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Joe Turpin wrote:>> Last nite after posting I called Uhaul to get a price on how much the truck> rental would be.   I was shocked.  To go from South Dakota to North Carolina> they quoted $1024 for a 26 footer, $893 for a 24 footer, and $842 for a 17> footer.  Some of the Transporters I have called have been less than that.> So I guess I'll scrap the U-haul thought.>> Now the second idea I have come up with is this; I'll go up there get the> Classifieds, buy an older 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck.  Use it to pull it home> and then sell it when I get back home for what I paid for it or maybe more.> This would all depend upon getting a good deal on a truck.>> Thanks> Joe Turpin.
 why not buy a car trailer .. i  got one outside of rapid city in 91 16
 ft
 back then it was around 1350. the place was located between rapid and
 blackhawk sd. it cost a little more than rental but you will have for
 future trips
 john embrey
 ------------------------------
 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 15:20:07 -0500
 From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak"  Subject: Uhaul Update
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
 Two pieces of advice.
 1. Forget U-Haul. They're the most expensive of the bunch and they lie
 about truck length. That goofy little space above the cab counts for 2
 feet, so U-Hauls's 26 is really a 24, etc. Call Hertz and Ryder and,
 etc. Play the price game with them. Sometimes you can bargain them down.
 2. Why leave from S. Dakota? Find out rates from places within 300 miles
 of where your going. When we did our west coast trip, it was 40% cheaper
 to rent a truck from Vegas to Chicago than LA to Chicago. We flew to
 Vegas (cheaper than flying to LA) got the truck, drove to LA, then back
 to Chicago. Saved about $500 and still had enough slop in the mileage
 allowance to add the round trip between LA and Vegas.
 You need to spend some long distance dollars. Don't call the 800
 numbers. Call Information and get phone numbers for the local store. You
 can bargain with the local guys sometimes when you can't with their
 national reservation service.
 Andy Litkowiak
 2598
 Joe Turpin wrote:>> Last nite after posting I called Uhaul to get a price on how much the truck> rental would be.   I was shocked.  To go from South Dakota to North Carolina> they quoted $1024 for a 26 footer, $893 for a 24 footer, and $842 for a 17> footer.  Some of the Transporters I have called have been less than that.> So I guess I'll scrap the U-haul thought.>> Now the second idea I have come up with is this; I'll go up there get the> Classifieds, buy an older 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck.  Use it to pull it home> and then sell it when I get back home for what I paid for it or maybe more.> This would all depend upon getting a good deal on a truck.>> Thanks> Joe Turpin.
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