Toy4x4 Digest          Sat,  6 Dec 97 00:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 579
Today's Topics:
 22r vs. 22re
 Bio (5 msgs)
 cat back systems(mufflers)
 Downey Lift (inner axles)
 engine stuff
 Hollister Hills
 Hollister Hills - Very Jealous
 Jay's web page.
 License Plate (2 msgs)
 license plates
 Locker (2 msgs)
 Locker Install
 My 2 cents
 new shocks
 New Taco (3 msgs)
 R&P Swap
 Repost: 22R timing chains, single-row vs. double-row
 Shocks? (2 msgs)
 Sub/Unsub Instructions
 Subject: Good image shrinker program?
 Thank You Jack
 Toyota v-6 engine replacement
 Track bar and Mazda spring swap info
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:25:40 -0700
From: Michael Stephens 
Subject: 22r vs. 22re
To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'" 
Brian,
I think you'll find all the information you need at this address:
http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota/toy_motor.html
Don't thank me.  Thank these guys for their contributions:
Jeff Williams@Toyz Unlimited and Chris Myer@Cyberspace Automotive
Performance
Edited by: Jack Alford - jalford@off-road.com
Michael Stephens
Micron CMS
919-405-1261
88/89 4Runner
>I have a curiousity question.  I have a 22r in my pickup with a bad
>headgasket (I should fix that someday).  I have an 83 22r in a parts
>truck that I'm going to throw in the pickup (the engine has been
>rebuilt).  I need to rebuild the 22re in my 4Runner, but I'm wondering
>if I could just rebuild the 22r and bolt up the EFI components?  This
>would allow me to rebuild at my leisure and still be able to move the
>runner around the garage, etc.  I checked out the Toyota page on
>Off-Road.com (thanks for all the info guys) and it appears that this is
>possible, but I have heard from other people that there are minor block
>and piston differences.  Can anyone set the record straight?
>Thanks,
>bkg
>
>----------------------------------------
>Brian K. Gallus
>Dynamark, Inc.
>BrianGallus@Dynamark.com
>----------------------------------------
>
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:49:05 -0800
From: Rick Manocchi 
Subject: Bio
To: "'toy4x4@tlca.org'" 
Name: Rick Manocchi
City & State: Beaverton, Oregon
Country: USA
E-mail address: Manocchi@EasyStreet.Com
Toyota (s) year & model: 1994 Pickup, V6, Extended Cab, 4x4, 5 speed
("Edna"!),
 1998 4Runner SR5, 2.7L, 5 Speed
Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
Age: 27
Occupation: Software Engineer
Marital Status: Married
Hobbies: Waxing and maintaining Toyota trucks!
How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Through Yahoo!
General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
We just recently moved here to Oregon from updstate New York.  MY truck
(Edna, the '94)
made the trek on a flatbed trailer.  OUR truck (the new 4Runner) we just
picked up about two weeks ago.
I've never done any off-roading with either Toy - but I'm getting anxious
to see what they've got.  Its going to be nice now that I can prove to my
wife that I'm not the only Toyota nut-case out there!
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 97 09:22:33 -0600
From: "Brent M. Dombrowski" 
Subject: Bio
To: "Toy4x4" 
>Name: Brent Dombrowski
>
>City & State: Albuquerque, NM
>
>Country: USA
>
>E-mail address: dombrowski@worldnet.att.net
>
>Toyota (s) year & model: '97 Tacoma, Ex Cab, V6 w/ rear locker and ABS
>
>Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
>
>Age: 24
>
>Occupation: Field Service
>
>Marital Status: Single
>
>Hobbies: Mountain biking, photography, 4x4s
>
>How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: off-road.com
>
>General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
Working long hours for the long weekends.
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 23:34:04 -0500
From: jrwood@recorder.ca
Subject: Bio
To: Toy4x4 
Toy4x4-Request wrote:
>
> Personal Bio Info
>
> POST TO THE LIST ONLY >> toy4x4@tlca.org
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Name:  John R. Wood
>
> City & Prov.:  Brockville, Ontario
>
> Country:  Canada
>
> E-mail address:  jrwood@recorder.ca
>
> Toyota (s) year & model: 	87 4Runner SR5 22RE; stock;
 84 Cressida
 83 Cressida
 previous Toyotas:	77, 79, 81 Celicas
 77 Corolla
 73 Corona
>
> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):  No
>
> Age: 38
>
> Occupation:  Quality Specialist (ISO auditor); electronics
>
> Marital Status:  happily married; two daughters
>
> Hobbies:  Family, computers (Macs), WWW, maintaining Toyotas; camping, fishing.
>
> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:  cruising
>
> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:  stock 87 4Runner 22RE SR5, factory sunroof, Daytona Stags, Alpine sound
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 22:48:42 -0800
From: Jason Redman 
Subject: Bio
To: Toy4x4 
Toy4x4-Request wrote:
> Personal Bio Info
>
> POST TO THE LIST ONLY >> toy4x4@tlca.org
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Name:Austin Marriage
>
> City & State:San Diego, Ca
>
> Country:USA
>
> E-mail address:yeti@inetworld.net
>
> Toyota (s) year & model:96 Tacoma 4x4 v6
> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):n
> Age:21
>
> Occupation:Electrician
>
> Marital Status:Single
>
> Hobbies:4x4ing, car stereo & competing, competitive shooting
>
> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:surfing
>
> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:'96 tacoma 4x4 v6 5spd
> with stock 3.93 gears, 4"downey susp. lift kit w/33-12.5r15 bfg m/t's
> on centerline 15x8's, bilstein shocks, k&n, 180A alternator, grille
> guard, piaa lights, about 10grand in stereo equip., blah, blah,  want
> to add lockers, 3"body lift, and 35-12.5r15's, with 4.56 or 4.88 gears
first question:  does anyone know if i can even get gears for my truck
yet?  i've called downey, and they do not make them as of yet, and know
of no one else that does...
second question: i'm thinking of going to all synthetic fluids... is it
worth it?
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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 17:27:59 +0800
From: Jason Brindisi 
Subject: Bio
To: Toy4x4 
Toy4x4-Request wrote:
> Personal Bio Info
>
> POST TO THE LIST ONLY >> toy4x4@tlca.org
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Name: Jason Brindisi
>
> City & State: Quezon City
>
> Country: Metro Manila
>
> E-mail address:
>
> Toyota (s) year & model: '92  4Runner, 2.8L 3L diesel
>
> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): No
>
> Age: 27
>
> Occupation: Marine, Ship supply and repairs
>
> Marital Status: Married
>
> Hobbies: Scuba diving, fishing
>
> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Browsing
>
> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 Although an Australian I have been living and working in the
Philippines for the past 4 years. Don't get much time to get off-road
recreationally but frequently need to as part of my job.
 Vehicle now sports the following:
 ARB bull bar
 IPF 130W driving lights
 Safari Snorkel
 Old Man Emu shocks
 Kaymar rear tyre carrier
 Finer Filter
 Planning on installing a winch but need to upgrade the alternator
first.
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:23:10 -0500
From: Agustinus Gunawan 
Subject: cat back systems(mufflers)
To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'" 
I didn't know that. I watch them install it and look like a smooth
operation. It only took them less than 30 minutes to install. But maybe
because mine is Shortbed regular cab model.
- -----Original Message-----
From:	Ken Emanuel [SMTP:Emanuel@csus.edu]
Sent:	Friday, December 05, 1997 4:21 PM
To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org
Subject:	Re: cat back systems(mufflers)
Agustinus Gunawan wrote:
>
> Dynomax have a bolt-on 2" Cat-Back system for 22R
> I have it and very pleased with the gain.
> Could cost you around $95 if you install it your self.
> I got mine for $116 + tax installed.
Right, I checked into this any many people told me that
the "bolt-on" Dynomax systems required quite a bit of
modifications to get it to hang right (particularly on
Xtra-cabs).  I didn't have time to mess with it, so I
paid $130 for the custom system and that includes
having it installed.  If I would have had the time,
I probably would have gone the route you are referring to.
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Ken Emanuel                     Emanuel@csus.edu
'87 Xtra Cab SR5    (22R-E)
http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac75830/toystuff.htm
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 00:44:08 -0800
From: Brendan 
Subject: Downey Lift (inner axles)
To: 
>IHMO - the Downey use if U joints is a poor engineering
>design - but it is less expensive than the alternative
>(The WCOR usage of inner CVs of the rezeppa/Lubro type)
>
>EWong
I agree with this assessment.  I've heard quite a few instances where the
Downey U-joints break.  If one decides to stay with IFS, one can either
by them from WCOR, or have them made on one's own.  I found out from
another guy that the Transform buggy company sells race Lobro 930 cv's
for $75 each (regular 930's are about $10-15 less).  Moser Engineering
can make the half shafts for about $395 (both).  The adapter plates will
also have to be soured.  Any competent machine shop could make those.
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:28:59 EST
From: Johosophat 
Subject: engine stuff
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I have a quick question about my 87 toy's 22r engine.  It has 178,000 miles on
it and runs great.  The thing is, is that im gonna be going away to school
next year, and am going to need a reliable truck( i live in dallas, tx
school is in flint,  Mi).  I will have to commute about 6 times a year.
The way i see it i have a few options. they are:
1)rebuild the origonal engine
2)buy a new/rebuilt toy engine/transmition (could i swap in a toy v6???,
anybody done this????)
3)sell the truck (i am as emmbarest to write it as you are to read it) and get
something with less miles.
Do i have anyother choices?  What would you do if you were in my situation?
How does everybody feel about swaping in an engine/transimtion from another
manufacture (such as chevy).  i really dont want to sell the toy but i would
rather see it go to an owner that would treat it right then see it rust out in
flint.  What would u do if you were in my situation?????
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:35:47 -8 GMT
From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III" 
Subject: Hollister Hills
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
> From: Scott Wilson 
>
> LISA BREWER wrote:
> >
> > Well guys, how did the Hollister Hills trip go?
>
> There are 4 write-ups that I know of at this time...
>
> and Leo D's page...but unfortunately I've only got that bookmarked at
> work...so I dont' have it for you now.
>
sorry, but all of the fun i have having pulling and helping out two vehicles
that sucked in water, i just didn't have time to take pixs.  beside, all of
the passengers in the other vehicles were snapping away...
btw, as a highlight of the day, or night, was ken fong's 4runner doing a
submariner.  you gotta see the video to believe it.  if someone sends it to
either '4w∨' or '4 wheeler' mags, they'll sure run it...  and get some
money to boot!  8-))
btw, my web page can be found at the 4runner web ring...  (double plug
here...)
- -----------------------
Leo G. Divinagracia III
ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:49:02 -8 GMT
From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III" 
Subject: Hollister Hills - Very Jealous
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
> From: Eric Stegall 
>
> To all you wheelers who went to Hollister Hills last Friday:
>
> I am very jealous.  There I sat in front of my computer at work, yes work,
> and was wishing I was out there with you guys. :-(  At 10 am I pictured all
> of the trucks slowly pulling up and everyone checking them out.  I could
> hear the hissing of air being let out of the tires.  The smiles on
> everyone's faces as they hopped in their rigs and the flow of adrenaline as
> you began a day of great fun!!!  Well I don't want to waste the bandwidth
> on the rest of my day, but the pictures look great on the web sites and I
> also look forward to seeing write-up in Toyota Trails.  Again, I wish I was
> there.
>
don't mean piss you off more, but there was a certain men's magazine doing a
photo shoot for 'the girls of...' feature.  of course they needed a couple
hand models and being the helpful guy i am, i volunteered.  then there was
the full blown catered table of food with all the drinks possible.  and
afterwards... 
, 
... [excuse me while i wake up from a day-dream]
okay, so it really didn't happen that way.  i came home with mud all over,
freezing cold (i forgot my jacket), tired.
but since i have no life, there may be another 'day after...' event.  dec
26th...  'nuff said.  more news to come this week!!!
- -----------------------
Leo G. Divinagracia III
ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 19:51:07 -0700
From: Tony Bartlett 
Subject: Jay's web page.
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Hey Jay, your page looking good.  Thanks for adding a link to my page
and having the picture of my truck on Metal Masher.
Hopefully soon I will change my link page to add some personal web
pages.
Toyota Tony
http://www.digitalpla.net/~offroader
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:36:09 -0600
From: "Steve C." 
Subject: License Plate
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
mstano@okway.okstate.edu wrote:
>
> The plate on my '84 Toyota 4x4 is a palindrome few people get:  ATOYOTA.  Wish I
> could say it is original, but I stole the idea from a Frank and Ernest cartoon
> strip ("What type vehicle does the president of the Palindrome Society drive?
> ATOYOTA.").
hey you spelled ATOYOTA backwards.
- --
Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
Houston, Texas			Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 Edelbrock headers
NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 00:07:30 -500
From: "Steve Pierce" 
Subject: License Plate
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
A freind of mine requested and got a palindrome phone number from the
phone company here in Albuq.  I saw it and said it was very cool and
he said that very few people ever realize it.  Heck most people don't
even know what a palindrome is. BTW, when I told him your license
plate, he loved it.  He said he hadn't seen that before.
 - Steve
> The plate on my '84 Toyota 4x4 is a palindrome few people get:
> ATOYOTA.  Wish I could say it is original, but I stole the idea
> from a Frank and Ernest cartoon strip ("What type vehicle does the
> president of the Palindrome Society drive? ATOYOTA.").
Steve Pierce, Director of Fun
US1 Internet, a division of AIS Inc.
Albuquerque, NM USA
Direct:(810) 234-2398 | Office:(505) 296-1601
mailto:Steve@US1.net | http://US1.net/
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 19:53:28 -0700
From: Tony Bartlett 
Subject: license plates
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
when I was into mud I had
NEEDMUD
ITSAMDR
a friend in North Carolina had
OFFROADER
yes those Carolina boys are lucky to have 8 letters.
Toyota Tony
http://www.digitalpla.net/~offroader
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 19:10:52 -0800
From: Brandon Miller 
Subject: Locker
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I've put in 6 of them now, pretty easy (only two in my truck).  Remove
the third member, remove the ring gear and the spider gears (mark
everything first), put in the locker in a box, put it back together and
wheel!
I can provide a more detailed explanation if you'd like but basically
you need a torque wrench, set of hand tools, punch, and a vice is
helpful....
Brian_Madorin@infinity.com wrote:
>
> I've been thinking about putting a Lock Rite in my rear diff.
> Has anyone installed one in their truck?
> If so can you tell me what's involved and give any helpful hints?
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> 92 Standard cab
> 4" ProComp
- --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Brandon Miller                     email: sac78483@saclink.csus.edu
Sacramento, CA                            millerb@gaia.ecs.csus.edu
 url:
http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~millerb
TLCA #6013
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 22:07:01 -0700
From: Wiley Davis 
Subject: Locker
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Brandon Miller wrote:
> I've put in 6 of them now, pretty easy (only two in my truck).  Remove
> the third member, remove the ring gear and the spider gears (mark
> everything first), put in the locker in a box, put it back together and
> wheel!
>
> I can provide a more detailed explanation if you'd like but basically
> you need a torque wrench, set of hand tools, punch, and a vice is
> helpful....
>
> Brian_Madorin@infinity.com wrote:
> >
> > I've been thinking about putting a Lock Rite in my rear diff.
> > Has anyone installed one in their truck?
> > If so can you tell me what's involved and give any helpful hints?
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> >
> > 92 Standard cab
> > 4" ProComp
>
> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Brandon Miller                     email: sac78483@saclink.csus.edu
> Sacramento, CA                            millerb@gaia.ecs.csus.edu
>
>                              url:
> http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~millerb
> TLCA #6013
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 A vice is VERY helpful.  I had to go out and buy one for my dad (I was
doing it while on vacation in Oregon, and he didn't have one)  I tried
everything but couldn't remove/retorque the ring gear bolts w/out it.
Also, heating the ring gear is definately a good tip...the instructions
that came w/ the locker were very good.
on another note, i am on my second lock-right now.  I broke the first one
in august in baja (rounded dog-teeth).  i confirmed it was not an install
error and pro-gear in san diego gave me another one, which i have yet to
have any problems w/.
- -Wiley-
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:41:40 -0600
From: "Steve C." 
Subject: Locker Install
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Brian_Madorin@infinity.com wrote:
>
> I've been thinking about putting a Lock Rite in my rear diff.
> Has anyone installed one in their truck?
> If so can you tell me what's involved and give any helpful hints?
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> 92 Standard cab
> 4" ProComp
I had never even seen the inside of a differential before and it only
took me 4.5hrs.  (had time to think on the throne).  Just read and
reread and reread the instructions and try to get the section out of the
Toy manual on 3rd member removal and installation.  Once you pull the
heavy thing out its all downhill.
Hint....ping  companion flange on driveshaft, ping bearing caps, dont
try to ping ring gear (you cant its too hard) just mark the ring gear
and carrier.  Use a propane torch to heat the ring gear to remove it
from carrier.  Heat to install it also.  But you may be able to install
without removal on a 92.  Taco's have to be pulled.
Any Q's mail me and I will try to help.
G'Luck its not too terribly hard.   Also invest in Loctite, its a must
for all fasteners.
- --
Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
Houston, Texas			Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 Edelbrock headers
NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 19:22:15 -0800
From: "Don M. West" 
Subject: My 2 cents
To: Toyota 4x4 mailing list 
Let me also say a thank you to Jack for this list! Since joining in July
when I bought my 94 p/u I've learned a lot...and already met up with some
great people who don't mind taking a newbie wheelin' *:)
THANKS, JACK.
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 19:39:49 -0500
From: Chris Caldwell 
Subject: new shocks
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Bruce Burden wrote:
>
> >
> > I have a 93 4x4 x-cab with the stock shocks on it(65,000 miles)  I am looking
> > to soften the ride on the highway a little.  Will new shocks achieve this?  If
> > so what shocks would be recommended?  Please help!!
> >
>         I put Bilsteins on my Taco, and really like the change
>     they made. Of course, I went from the wimpy shocks Toyota
>     used for the first 2 model years, but it was still a very
>     pleasant change. Ride is definitely "firm", but I don't
>     think it is harsh.
>
>                                                         Bruce
I have to second that opinion on the Bilsteins. The ride is far superior
to stock but not at all harsh.
Chris Caldwell
caldwell@vol.com
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:45:51 -0600
From: "Steve C." 
Subject: New Taco
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Terry Sheppard wrote:
>
> Jim,
>     Welcome to the list!
>
>     I was wondering what kind of mileage you are getting out of your truck?
> And how many miles before the gas mileage improved (ie. after break in
> time).  By the way I also have the same truck and I am getting between 11-12
> MPG with the odometer just turning 1000 miles (mostly highway driving).
>
> Thanks
>
> Terry Sheppard
>
> shepardt@cadvision.com
Something is wrong.  My V6 gets over 18MPG no matter how I press it.  I
have gotten over 20 hiway, but in town and stoplight indies aren't real
efficient.
- --
Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
Houston, Texas			Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 Edelbrock headers
NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 17:10:25 -0700
From: Wiley Davis 
Subject: New Taco
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Terry Sheppard wrote:
> Jim,
>     Welcome to the list!
>
>     I was wondering what kind of mileage you are getting out of your truck?
> And how many miles before the gas mileage improved (ie. after break in
> time).  By the way I also have the same truck and I am getting between 11-12
> MPG with the odometer just turning 1000 miles (mostly highway driving).
>
> Thanks
>
> Terry Sheppard
>
> shepardt@cadvision.com
 Your only getting 10-11 MPG??!!
even w/ the v6 that is ridiculous.  I bought mine new (60 miles) and i get 20-25
MPG (4 cyl.) and always have...I now have 10,000miles since August.
- -wiley-
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 19:38:08 -0500
From: Chris Caldwell 
Subject: New Taco
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Terry Sheppard wrote:
>
> Jim,
>     Welcome to the list!
>
>     I was wondering what kind of mileage you are getting out of your truck?
> And how many miles before the gas mileage improved (ie. after break in
> time).  By the way I also have the same truck and I am getting between 11-12
> MPG with the odometer just turning 1000 miles (mostly highway driving).
>
> Thanks
>
> Terry Sheppard
>
> shepardt@cadvision.com
I have the V6 Tacoma with 44k miles have always gotten in the 18 mpg
range around town. And my driving habits are not the most economic.
Chris Caldwell
caldwell@vol.com
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 17:58:31 -0500
From: Sheldon Gardner 
Subject: R&P Swap
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
>
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 21:55:03 -0500
> From: Chris Caldwell 
> Subject: R & P Swap
> To: 4x4 digest 
>
> Hey Sheldon, I was just curious as to why you are going from the 4.88's
> down to the 4.10's?
>
> Chris Caldwell
> caldwell@vol.com
> (95.5 Tacoma Xcab 4x4 V6, TJM Bullbar, K&N, Rear Lock-right)
>
I bought an 85 Toy it is a bedless, gutted ext cab with a 305, TH350 and 203 transfer.
I keep changing my idea as to what to swap to but after looking real good at the 85 last night I have decided
to ditch the 305 tranny and transfer and go with a Buick 231 (unless). I came close to slapping on some
fullside 1/2, 3/4 or even 1 Ton Chevy axles and still might if I find a good deal before I sell the motor. But
I want something I can drive to events and such. My 83 runs great offroad now but the cab is fading (rusted
floorboards)and the frame is bent way out of shape go figure..." rolled 3 times, jumped more times than I can
count and don,t foget the runnning down sandy muddy trails at 40+ mph (oops didn't realize that puddle had a 2
foot rut in it) yeppie:)!!!!!"
The 85 is gutted but has no rust to speak of and only needs some carpet, seats and a little dash work to make
it cumfy, plus it has air and I have a spare compressor in the garage somewhere.
A friend gave me a two piece Downey TH350 adapter so I'll be going with that tranny, unfortunatly third gear is
only 1:1 so I need to lower the gears to give me acceptable rpms at highway speeds, hence back to 4.10's. I
plan on making up for the higher first gear by doing a dual transfer case and a low stall coverter, I have a
couple spare transfers in the garage so that ought help out on the dual setup cost.  As always $$$ is the
factor which is causing me to keep the Toy stuff I just can't stand the idea of spending money for some decent
Chevy axles then having to rebuild them and get lockers to boot not too mention having to get new wheels to fit
an eight or ten lug axle and the fact that they will stick out way too far, ( that could be nice sometimes).
So like I said before unless I can come across a good deal on axles I'm going to have to stick with the Toy
stuff.
I suppose I'm rambling sorry to give your such a lengthy answer. I keep going over and over this stuff in my
head to make sure that I'm not wasting money or working against myself and wind up with the kind of ride I'm
looking for.
eh gads
Sheldon
83?85? ToY, Chevota Hmmmmmmm?
sgard@flnet.com
http://www.flnet.com/~sgard
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:08:11 -0800
From: Scott Muir 
Subject: Repost: 22R timing chains, single-row vs. double-row
To: "'Toy List'"  Jeff Moskovitz wrote:
>Ignoring the expense of the kit (which is about $500!), does anyone have
>any opinions on the relative merits of single row vs. double row timing
>chains?
My opinion?  The timing chain is easy to do after the first time.  Its not that hard
the first time either.  I would think the double would only be worth it if you were
running some beefy performance cam.  I couldn't bring myself to spend the $500.
Spend the bucks on a 'genuine Toyota' single.
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 02:07:28 -0600
From: "James M. Zaehring" 
Subject: Shocks?
To: "'Toyota 4x4 List'" 
Toyota friends,
I just joined the list so I don't know if the subject was covered more =
extensively previously, but I was wondering if anyone had advice in the =
area of shocks.  My '79 short bed still has originals as far as I know.  =
The names that keep popping up on past digests that I scanned through =
were: Rancho 5000, RS9000, and Bilstiens.  I also have heard of Black =
Diamond.  I drive my truck mostly on road, but enjoy weekend 4x4 trips =
into the Texas country side, moderate to heavy bump factor.  I was =
hoping to find  good shocks that would smooth out the bouncing all over =
the road at highway speeds (if possible) and still be good for the =
occasional wheeling.  Looking for actual models if possible--or a good =
source for that information.  Anybody willing to help the new guy?
Any advice would be really nice,
James Zaehring	'79 4x4 , 20R, 31x10.50's, custom bull bar,FUN!
zaehrinj@letu.edu
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:20:19 -0600
From: "James M. Zaehring" 
Subject: Shocks?
To: "'Toyota 4x4 List'" 
Toyota friends,
I just joined the list so I don't know if the subject was covered more =
extensively previously, but I was wondering if anyone had advice in the =
area of shocks.  My '79 short bed still has originals as far as I know.  =
The names that keep popping up on past digests that I scanned through =
were: Rancho 5000, RS9000, and Bilstiens.  I also have heard of Black =
Diamond.  I drive my truck mostly on road, but enjoy weekend 4x4 trips =
into the Texas country side, moderate to heavy bump factor.  I was =
hoping to find  good shocks that would smooth out the bouncing all over =
the road at highway speeds (if possible) and still be good for the =
occasional wheeling.  Looking for actual models if possible--or a good =
source for that information.  Anybody willing to help the new guy?
Any advice would be really nice,
James Zaehring	'79 4x4 , 20R, 31x10.50's, custom bull bar,FUN!
zaehrinj@letu.edu
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:59:32 -0700
From: daves8@juno.com (Dave Schoemberg)
Subject: Sub/Unsub Instructions
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Thanks to all who sent the instructions I needed.  Got more than I need
now.  (grin)
Anybody else need 'em??
Thanks again.
Dave Schoenberg, Arvada, Colorado-----Who else gives advice like this???
'81 Toy/'86 EFI engine/5-spd/xfer--an' I did it all myself, with NO
Liquid Nails!!
Brakes and heater both work exceedingly well, thank you.
Thank You for subscribing to "Dave's Automotively Mechanical Humor Line".
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 23:57:17 -500
From: "Steve L. Pierce US1" 
Subject: Subject: Good image shrinker program?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
One of the best and one used by many web pro's is PhotoImpact with
Web Extensions from Ulead.  (http://www.ulead.com). At one point you
could download a free trial.  The full version with the CD runs about
$90 at most computer stores.  A new version 4 is due out or is
already out. It's image optimization is some of the best around.
Another good program is Paint Shop Pro.  You can find links to it at
http://www.shareware.com
Hope this helps,
 - Steve
Steve Pierce, Director of Fun
US1 Internet, a division of AIS Inc.
Albuquerque, NM USA
Direct:(810) 234-2398 | Office:(505) 296-1601
mailto:Steve@US1.net | http://US1.net/
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 18:24:00 -0600
From: "F. Torres" 
Subject: Thank You Jack
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Thanks Jack, as the Administrator your doing a great job!!
Although I did go through some withdrawals, when the list stopped coming
in.
- --
Frank Torres
Cedar Park, Texas
85 Longbed 4x4
90 4Runner 4x4
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 01:45:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Ruth Capen or David Lawrence 
Subject: Toyota v-6 engine replacement
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Hello everyone. I'm going to jump the gun and ask a question before I even
do my bio.
My brother and I recently bought an '89 4runner V-6 truck, but there is no
motor in it.  In searching for a motor (wow $$$), the most reasonable I have
found locally is a 60k mile V-6 from a '92 2wd pickup.  I have already been
told that the oil pan is different for a 4wd.  Are there any other
differences I need to be aware of.  Most importantly would be wiring or
computer differences.  I have the computer for this '89 and plan to use it
with the new motor.  Any past experiences would be much appreciated.
thanks,
David
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Date: 5 Dec 1997 15:56:20 U
From: "Jay Kopycinski" 
Subject: Track bar and Mazda spring swap info
To: "Toyota 4x4 List"  Subject:                              Time:  9:09 AM
 OFFICE MEMO         Track bar and Mazda spring swap info  Date:  12/5/97
Hi all,
Sorry it took so long, but I've completed a writeup on a
Mazda spring swap and track bar install a friend and
I did on his '80 truck. Hope you enjoy it!
http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota/upgrade.html
______________________________________________
Jay Kopycinski                                  '85 Toylet   (ROKTOY)
Gilbert, AZ                                        '91 4Runner (hers)
ryna10@email.sps.mot.com               '72 Jeep Commando
http://www.netzone.com/~jayk        '97  H-D Sportster
Arizona Lo-Rangers 4WD Club               TLCA #3243
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