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M-Class List Digest: Thursday, August 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 055

Contents:
RE: Age of a ML-320 Buyer
RE: Bose speaker's in the ML....
speakers
Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer
Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer
Re: ML430 Info
3rd row seats available on 9/15
RE: Bose speaker's in the ML....
FW: BOSE
Acrylic Window Sturm Shields -- Better Not....
seven day update, electric coolers, turbos
Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer
Age and mileage (in km)
Re: Age and mileage (in km)
Re: Age and mileage (in km)
Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer
trailer hitch
Re: Painted Bumper Skins
Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer
got any oil change tips?
RE: got any oil change tips?
Trying to mate accessories to the MBZ rack
Re: Painted Bumper Skins
Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer
Re: Age and mileage (in km)
Re: 3rd row seats available on 9/15
Re: Age and mileage (in km)

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:03:05 -0500
From: "Bill Naylor" <Bill_Naylor@NetcomSystems.com>
Subject: RE: Age of a ML-320 Buyer

41.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-m-class@moab.off-road.com
> [mailto:owner-m-class@moab.off-road.com]On Behalf Of Scott Teilhaber
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 1998 10:14 AM
> To: m-class@moab.off-road.com
> Subject: Age of a ML-320 Buyer
>
>
> Just out of curiosity How old is everyone that has bought a ML-320?
> If you bought a Volvo instead, please don't answer:)
>
> I am 48 years old.
>
> I bet I will be about the average age although it may go a bit younger.
>
> Cheers
> ==
>
> Scott Teilhaber, Jazz Communications, Inc.New Paltz NY 12561
> 914-255-7679 800-730-9650 Pager/Vmail 914-464-8800 Car Phone
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> shoes in the world Ships UPS Satisfaction is Guaranteed Sizes
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:25:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Teilhaber <jazzpaging@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Bose speaker's in the ML....

<I remember a question on the stock (non-Bose) system
> speakers -- they are Panasonic. (these would certainly appear to be
"normal"
> speakers). If that person is still around, maybe they could give us
some
> factual answers on this question...

I would make a wager that the stock speakers are NOT Panasonic.

Cheers
==

Scott Teilhaber, Jazz Communications, Inc.New Paltz NY 12561
914-255-7679 800-730-9650 Pager/Vmail 914-464-8800 Car Phone
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:46:52 -0700
From: "Murphy, Sean" <sean.murphy@intel.com>
Subject: speakers

Thanks for the information on the list on how to get door panels off, both
from the list and from Andrew.

I have a question:

While they are probably better speakers, I am not eager to mount a separate
tweeter when I upgrade front door speakers.
MB Quartz at one time had a 6.5" coaxial speaker QM 169.03KX which one
poster to the old list had installed in his ML. That speaker is apparently
no longer made. However, they do offer a coaxial 6.5" model, QM 1216.KX (I
think). They run about $320 a pair. Any opinions that someone might have
o these would be appreciated. If you don't want to respond to the list,
separate email would be Ok.

Thanks,

Sean
sean.murphy@intel.com

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:57:12 EDT
From: MAH4546@aol.com
Subject: Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer

In a message dated 98-08-13 11:16:09 EDT, you write:

<< Just out of curiosity How old is everyone that has bought a ML-320?
If you bought a Volvo instead, please don't answer:) >>

I did tbuy an ML320, but my 31 year old brother did. I ourcvahsed an Ml430 and
Im 35.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:06:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: david ting <ting@helix.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer

Thirty years old, Scott.

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Scott Teilhaber wrote:

> Just out of curiosity How old is everyone that has bought a ML-320?
> If you bought a Volvo instead, please don't answer:)
>
> I am 48 years old.
>
> I bet I will be about the average age although it may go a bit younger.
>
> Cheers
> ==

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:08:57 EDT
From: MAH4546@aol.com
Subject: Re: ML430 Info

In a message dated 98-08-13 12:07:15 EDT, you write:

<<
What dealership is telling you this?, curious. >>

L.P. Evans, Miami, Florida.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:36:30 -0400
From: "Ken K. Yee" <kenyee@keysolutions.com>
Subject: 3rd row seats available on 9/15

I saw this on the Edmunds forum:

I just talked to the local MB dealer in San Jose,
Calif., and he informed me that the 3rd row seat
option(dealer-installed) will be available
beginning Sept. 15, '98. Both '98 and '99 ML320
models will have this option, and the cost of
installation will be $1095.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:38:51 -0500
From: "Bill Naylor" <Bill_Naylor@NetcomSystems.com>
Subject: RE: Bose speaker's in the ML....

If I still have the message I'll forward it to the list.

- --BN

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-m-class@moab.off-road.com
> [mailto:owner-m-class@moab.off-road.com]On Behalf Of Scott Teilhaber
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 1998 2:26 PM
> To: m-class@moab.off-road.com
> Subject: RE: Bose speaker's in the ML....
>
>
> <I remember a question on the stock (non-Bose) system
> > speakers -- they are Panasonic. (these would certainly appear to be
> "normal"
> > speakers). If that person is still around, maybe they could give us
> some
> > factual answers on this question...
>
> I would make a wager that the stock speakers are NOT Panasonic.
>
>
> Cheers
> ==
>
> Scott Teilhaber, Jazz Communications, Inc.New Paltz NY 12561
> 914-255-7679 800-730-9650 Pager/Vmail 914-464-8800 Car Phone
> Shameless Plug-Visit my family's shoe store in Atlanta
> http://www.friedmansshoes.com for the best selection of Mens
> shoes in the world Ships UPS Satisfaction is Guaranteed Sizes
> 7-24 BIG GUYS SHOES-where the pros shop!
>
>
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> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:39:43 -0500
From: "Bill Naylor" <Bill_Naylor@NetcomSystems.com>
Subject: FW: BOSE

All -

Here is the original message about the Bose vs. Panasonic (stock) speakers.
Tbuff, you still here?

- --BN

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-m-class@unix.off-road.com
[mailto:owner-m-class@unix.off-road.com] On Behalf Of TBUFF77@aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 6:18 PM
To: m-class@unix.off-road.com
Subject: Re: BOSE

the Bose upgrade uses speakers made by Bose , the basic system uses
speakers
made by Panasonic

Tbuff
assembly line worker at MB in Vance Alabama

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:50:32 -0400
From: "shack" <shack6@classic.msn.com>
Subject: Acrylic Window Sturm Shields -- Better Not....

Tried out the acrylic Weathershield Sturm Shields for a few days. These are
the acrylic shields which go above and on leading edge of the front windows
and above the rear. I thought they were well made and a perfect fit but
removed them and sent them back because of excessive wind noise they
generated (more than twice that of the Thule roof rack with four bike
attachments). Also, while the front pieces pop in and stay in place
perfectly, the rear utilize double-sided sticky tape to hold them up under
the weatherstripping. Upon removal I have a sticky mess in the
weatherstripping which I'll be cleaning out for many moons. And, of course,
each time the kids raise/lower the rear windows it pulls down a fresh batch
of sticky stuff.

Bottom line: IMO, while well made an a perfect fit they are not worth the
noise, and I certainly would not install the ones for the rear windows
because of the sticky tape residue if you remove them. Report on the
weathertech cargo liner to follow.

Shack

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:54:11 -0400
From: Dave Hsu <hsu@arquebus.eng.us.uu.net>
Subject: seven day update, electric coolers, turbos

Exactly a week, and 720 miles later on the '99...

Last friday the alarm headed for downtown False City. Contrary to
what my salesperson indicated, they had not disabled the tow/interior
sensor prior to delivery. Five minutes in the service bay to shut
it off and it hasn't misbehaved since.

No squeaks or rattles yet. The body gasket at the top of the doors
has an slim upper flange that's supposed to be slipped into a channel
in the roof; it was about 50% seated correctly, but that wasn't
surprising considering how little margin for error was provided.
Added the side cargo nets on both sides; the plastic well covers
weren't designed to leave quite enough space for anything to connect
to the tiedown ring underneath. It fits, but snugly.

If you're still looking for a 12V Peltier cooler, I noticed today that
Brookstone has their 14-liter cooler on sale for $99. The lighter plug
appears to be set up for the shallow European-style receptacles, as in
the ML. The cooler is different from the Igloo and others in that the
rigid plastic icebox, fan and heatsink assembly is built into a decent
looking ballistic nylon tote with a shoulder strap. In addition to the
rigid insulation, the fabric portion is insulated and has a metallized
inner lining. There is no lid per-se; to close the box you zip the top
of the bag up.

It appears to be a German-market item; there are Tu:V and GS markings on
the inside but more interestingly, on the cover of the instruction manual
you can see that they've covered over the words "Mercedes-Benz" and
"kuhl..." something, and the zipper pulls say Brookstone. FYI.

>Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:13:12 -0700 (PDT)
>From: TERRY FABBRI <terryfabbri@rocketmail.com>
>Subject: Re: ML320 KOMPRESSOR/U.S. Warranty
...
>The bottom line, is that a auto manufacturer
>cannot "void" the warranty carte blanche.
>
>By Federal law the auto manuf. must continue to
>cover all other parts that are not directly part
>of the modification per the terms of the
>original manuf. warranty.

Can you provide a citation for this law?

>There have been a good number of successful and
>trouble free "charged" conversions of both the
>Audi/VW 1.8 powerplant and the BMW 3 series
>using American made kits (supercharger, chip,
>intake, exhaust)...total deal about $5000.

There have also been a good number of blown engines from unsuccessful
conversions. Frankly, an intake-forward and exhaust-back only
conversion of the ML's 10:1 engine would make me extremely nervous.
Yes, the VW/Audi 1.8T runs a light-pressure (7psi stock) turbo
on 9.5:1 compression and has been successfully boosted to 14+ without
internal mods, but it's also known as an unusually strong engine
design. Even Dinan's careful BMW conversions pretty much always
include lowering the compression ratios, usually low-to-mid 8's.

I guess I'm just urging caution in the face of hyperbolic performance
claims. The composition of gasoline hasn't changed enough recently
for miracles to occur.

- -dave

- --
==
Dave Hsu <hsu@eng.us.uu.net> http://www.va.pubnix.com/staff/hsu
Product Architect Standard disclaimers apply.
Systems Engineering "When the hors d'oeuvres are passed, take two."
UUNET Technologies, Inc. - Kleiner's law

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:49:00 -0600
From: "Bryan Platt" <BPLATT@novell.com>
Subject: Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer

30.

>>> Jim Wyatt <jwyatt@logicon.com> 08/13 11:53 AM >>>
57

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:11:16 -0700
From: Craig <graigger@wave.home.com>
Subject: Age and mileage (in km)

Hello,

I was 34 when I picked up my M back in October of '97. Now I'm 35. Of
course, that's my physical age. My emotional and intellectual age - 12.

My M has about 12,000 km. (which is about 7500 miles) I own 3 other
cars.

I would like to know what other cars M owners own! (if any)

Thanks,
Craig (Vancouver Boy)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:38:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Teilhaber <jazzpaging@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Age and mileage (in km)

> I was 34 when I picked up my M back in October of '97. Now I'm 35. Of
> course, that's my physical age. My emotional and intellectual age -
12.
>
> My M has about 12,000 km. (which is about 7500 miles) I own 3 other
> cars.
>
> I would like to know what other cars M owners own! (if any)

I have a 1965 Pontiac GTO with 3 duces and a 4 speed.
I have a 1997 Ford F-150 Lariot supercab 4x4
I have a 1987 Olds Cutlass Ciera Wagon
I have a 1970 International 1700 dump
I have a 1997 Case 1840 Skid Steer
I have others but these are what I drive at least once a month or more.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:42:19 EDT
From: MAH4546@aol.com
Subject: Re: Age and mileage (in km)

In a message dated 98-08-13 17:16:35 EDT, you write:

<< I would like to know what other cars M owners own! (if any) >>

I have a Z3 2,8, Discovery V8i, and old Triumph TR3A, a RR Corniche(old) and I
have a Beetle and ML430(cant wait!) on order. my borhter who drives an Ml320
also has a BMW 740iL and Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:51:13 PDT
From: "Kirk Tsai" <kirktsai@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer

I am 27. 6200 miles on my march build.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:59:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kuehnlfr@webtv.net (Frank Kuehnl)
Subject: trailer hitch

anyone interested in installing their own MB trailer hitch,

this is the second easiest MB accessory that i have installed. i have
the instructions in my home if anyone needs/wants more detailed info.

notes:

i was impressed with the unit, it appears to be well made and heavy
duty.

it too me just over an hour to install (first one).

the bolts actualy fit!!!

a lift is not nessessary (but helpfull)

in addition to the hitch, you will need a 25A spade fuse (clear) this
goes in posistion F18 in the fuse box

two people are required to remove the rear bumper skin to prevent damage

tools:

16mm wrench

17mm socket

ratchet for above

21mm socket

ratchet for above

torque wrench for above

10mm socket

wire cutters

again, let me know if you want any more info,

frank

ps i am going to save the most recent copy of installation instructions
for ever accessory i put on.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:10:33 -0700
From: Thomas <sthomasa@home.com>
Subject: Re: Painted Bumper Skins

My wife took out a garbage can the first time she drove the ML. It made
a small door dent in the hatch but bent the bumper skin.
It was good that it lost it's virginity with her and not me.
I have been thinking about buying a new skin for the bumper until I saw
a painted out white ML 320. Skins painted white, white rockers and
mirrors...like the 430ML.
My dealer was asking 2000.00 extra for the paint...salesman says he can
have it done for 600.00. If they just pop off like Frank suggested when
he put on the bumper hitch, maybe I'll pull them off and drop them off
at a paint shop. Anyone painted out their bumpers? Problems??
Suggestions?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:23:13 -0700
From: "L. Denney" <denney@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer

YIPPEE ! ! ! My 99 just came it today.

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:30:36 -0400
From: Dave Hsu <hsu@arquebus.eng.us.uu.net>
Subject: got any oil change tips?

It's a little early yet for my first change, but I was wondering
if there were any "gotchas" involved in changing the oil. I
have the replacement filter and drain plug crush ring, and the
filter cap removal tool is on order. Do you have to do anything
with the anti-drainback valve before opening the filter housing?
And what's the correct procedure for tightening the drain plug...
is there a specific torque, or do you just hand-tighten on the
new ring and crank a certain amount beyond?

Any comment is appreciated, although I'm specifically curious to
hear what Frank has to say. TIA.

- -dave

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:33:02 -0700
From: "Murphy, Sean" <sean.murphy@intel.com>
Subject: RE: got any oil change tips?

You might check back copies of The Star, the magazine the Mercedes Club of
America. They had a two part article on do it yourself maintenance for the
ML.

Sean

It's a little early yet for my first change, but I was
wondering
if there were any "gotchas" involved in changing the oil. I
have the replacement filter and drain plug crush ring, and
the
filter cap removal tool is on order. Do you have to do
anything
with the anti-drainback valve before opening the filter
housing?
And what's the correct procedure for tightening the drain
plug...
is there a specific torque, or do you just hand-tighten on
the
new ring and crank a certain amount beyond?

Any comment is appreciated, although I'm specifically
curious to
hear what Frank has to say. TIA.

-dave

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:35:58 -0700
From: Ken Tucker <ken_tucker@amdahl.com>
Subject: Trying to mate accessories to the MBZ rack

I got the MBZ cross bars for the roof rack, and it's completely different
than anything else I have seen, either Yakima or Thule. Has anyone had any
luck mating standard Yakima accessories to it, as I have a bunch? Had
hoped that Yakima would make an adapter, but the factory says no, and they
will not do so.

It seems so nice and aerodynamic, and integrates so well into the existing
rack, but I wonder if I should get rid of it and replace it with a Yakima?
Has anyone done this, and how successfully?

Ken
____________________________________________________________________
Ken Tucker Phone: (408) 746-7865 Fax:(408) 357-3485
Amdahl Corp, P.O. Box 3470, M/S 213, Sunnyvale, CA 94088-3470
email: ken_tucker@amdahl.com

There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right
keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. - Johann Sebastian
Bach.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:41:36 -0700
From: Ken Tucker <ken_tucker@amdahl.com>
Subject: Re: Painted Bumper Skins

The dealer (Smythe European) here is decking out a number of the MLs with
bars and wheel flares and such, plus 18 inch AMG wheels and 285/60-18
Bridgestones, and painting all monochromatic like the ML430. The charge
for repainting lists out at $2,600.

At 03:10 PM 8/13/98 , you wrote:
>My wife took out a garbage can the first time she drove the ML. It made
>a small door dent in the hatch but bent the bumper skin.
>It was good that it lost it's virginity with her and not me.
>I have been thinking about buying a new skin for the bumper until I saw
>a painted out white ML 320. Skins painted white, white rockers and
>mirrors...like the 430ML.
>My dealer was asking 2000.00 extra for the paint...salesman says he can
>have it done for 600.00. If they just pop off like Frank suggested when
>he put on the bumper hitch, maybe I'll pull them off and drop them off
>at a paint shop. Anyone painted out their bumpers? Problems??
>Suggestions?
>
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email: ken_tucker@amdahl.com

There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right
keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. - Johann Sebastian
Bach.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:30:46 -0400
From: "Roger Heuckeroth" <heuckeroth@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Age of a ML-320 Buyer

I'm 31

>---Scott Teilhaber <jazzpaging@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just out of curiosity How old is everyone that has bought a ML-320?
>> If you bought a Volvo instead, please don't answer:)
>>
>> I am 48 years old.
>>
>> I bet I will be about the average age although it may go a bit
>younger.
>>
>> Cheers
>> ==
>>
>> Scott Teilhaber, Jazz Communications, Inc.New Paltz NY 12561
>> 914-255-7679 800-730-9650 Pager/Vmail 914-464-8800 Car Phone
>> Shameless Plug-Visit my family's shoe store in Atlanta
>> http://www.friedmansshoes.com for the best selection of Mens shoes
>in the world Ships UPS Satisfaction is Guaranteed Sizes 7-24 BIG GUYS
>SHOES-where the pros shop!
>>
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> DO YOU YAHOO!?
>> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:50:11 -0400
From: Hardy <mhardy@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Age and mileage (in km)

im 48 and my ml320 has 7000 miles on it.....april delivery

>> I would like to know what other cars M owners own! (if any)

i have a 1983 240 D 130,000 miles
a 1988 420 SEL 150,000
a 1993 dodge grand caravan 110,000
and am waiting for my 1999 humvee(a few days i hope!!!)
and of course the ml320

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:48:54 EDT
From: Wjevenson@aol.com
Subject: Re: 3rd row seats available on 9/15

I wonder if your post meant the cost including installation and the seats or
just the cost of the installation?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:50:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pedro Romero de Terreros <terreros@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Age and mileage (in km)

Craig :
What other cars do you own?.

My wife and I have a 1994 JGC Laredo 4X4, a 1997 Pathfinder LE 4WD
(big mistake!) and a 1987 M 190 E. The JGC (getting old) will go after
I receive the ML320 (of course if my wife does not confiscate it for
her own use; Mexican macho?).

Sincerely

Pedro

> I would like to know what other cars M owners own! (if any)
>
> Thanks,
> Craig (Vancouver Boy)
>
>
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