Toyota 4x4 digest:      Sunday, February 21 1999      Volume 02 : Number 253
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 BOLT PATTERN LIST - Here it is!
 clicking under the hood?
 Broken Marfield?
 Bilsteins
 RE: Seperate solid axel sticker? No way!
 re: Brake Fluid Level Sensor
 Attn: EJ
 Aluminum Diamond Plate Corners
 Engine Swap
 Cruise Control
 ADMIN: Grow Up, learn to SPELL, et al
 Toyota 8" rear wheel bearings
 Re: marfield
 Landcruser axle swap
 New list member bio...
 Bio/Intro
 re: arbitration hearing
 Re: Toyota 8" rear wheel bearings
 Difficult starting 22re
 FS: '86 Toyota 4X4 ExtraCab Automatic
 winch bumpers
 Re: Difficult starting 22re
 Rear Skirts on a Runner
 Ins. ??
 Woodruff - Insurance question
 electrical problems?
 (no subject)
 Re: Tow hook bolts
 Re: electrical problems?
 Re: Seperate solid axel sticker? No way!
 Re: Gear Change
 How low should I go?
 Follow-up: Steering/Locker Problem?
 Stock FJ-60 front bumper FS
 Bio
 cruise control
 tow hooks/pith bolts
 Personal Bio Info
 Re: Ins. ??
 FJ-60 Spring leaves and wheel well cover FS
 Re: Engine Swap
 bio
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 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:48:57 EST
 From: Gnarly4X@aol.com
 Subject: BOLT PATTERN LIST - Here it is!
 Here?s a list of lug bolts/patterns from page 35 of 4x4 Power Magazine, April
 Issue.
 6-on-5-1/2 (means 6 lugs on a circle that measures 5.5" in diameter.
 The following list of vehicles have the same bolt pattern (6-on-5-1/2?s)
 Chevy, Blazer/Jimmy/Tahoe/Yukon	69-97
 "    Fullsize P/U - ? Ton (gas) 	57-97
 "    3/4Ton (up to 7.2K GVW)	88-97
 "    Suburban, ? Ton (gas)		57-97
 Dodge, D50							82-93
 "    Raider						87-89
 Isuzu, Amigo						89-94
 "     Pickup						83-95
 "     Trooper						84-97
 Jeep, Cherokee (fullsize)			74-83
 "      J-Series truck ?	Ton			74-87
 "      Wagoneer (fullsize inc. Grand	74-91
 Mazda - Pickup (B-1600 - B-2200	79-03
 and B-2600)
 Mitsubishi, Montero					83-97
 "        Pickup					79-95
 Nissan, Pathfinder					87-97
 "       Pickup						80-97
 Toyota, 4Runner					84-97
 "       Land Crusher				63-97
 "       Pickup/Tacoma			79-97
 "       T-100						93-97
 The article states that some wheels won?t fit over the Toyota hubs, like the
 Chevy 4x4 Rallye wheels from a 70?s or 80?s Blazer.
 Hope this helps,
 Gnarls.
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 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:02:17 -0600 (Canada Central Standard Time)
 From: kevin  Subject: clicking under the hood?
 when i put the engine under load (not sure how many rpms, i do not
 have the sr5), a clicking starts on the drivers side of the engine
 compartment.  it speeds up with increased rpm, and slows down when i let
 off the gas.  any ideas as to what it is, and if it is bad?
 thanks,
 kevin norton
 university of minnesota, duluth
 department of geology
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 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:07:59 EST
 From: Gnarly4X@aol.com
 Subject: Broken Marfield?
 umilll02@umail.ucsb.edu (Luke P Miller)  wrote:
 Well, someone on the Pirate4x4 BB put up a post saying they broke a
 Marfield on one of the 'Hammer trails. Interesting.
 Chris G., you know anything about this? They also said Marlin may be
 redesigning th Marfield again. Anyone know the real story?
 **********
 Why is this surprising?  Anyone can break something on the Hammer Trails.
 Gnarls.
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 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:16:12 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: Bilsteins
 Picked up my Bilsteins today for the front of my 92 4Runner. I originally
 had planned on buying them from NTB, but for some reason they decided to
 double the price from last Friday (I was quoted $48/shock), to Saturday when
 I went to pay for them so I could order them. The guy on Saturday first
 quoted me $219 installed, but when I told him I wanted to install them
 myself, he said they would be $99 each. "Hey - we're not a parts store" was
 his reply. No wonder, at those prices. Guess I won't be going back there
 again...
 Luckily the Pep Boys down the street could get them for me, $49 each.
 The Sway-Away t-bars also arrived, but no instructions provided on
 installation. Guess I'll venture over to ORC to check out some of the
 write-ups. Anybody else have any tips? I plan on stopping by the dealer to
 pick up a couple of those bolts in case I break mine trying to get them out.
 - -KLF
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:38:59 -0700
 From: offroader@digitalpla.net (Tony Barnett)
 Subject: RE: Seperate solid axel sticker? No way!
 Not to start anything here but if a club will not let you run with them
 then you do not need that club, have your friend leave the club.
 I used to do all my wheeling with Jeeps.  I would help if they break,
 they would help if I broke.
 I once wheeled with a group of Jeeps, I had 33" tires, a locker up front
 and stock gears, at the time it was the hardest trail I ever did, I did
 ok, had to be winched once but then the steering arm broke.  One Jeep
 stayed with my truck and the rest left except on to drive me to town
 (barstow) to hopefully find someone to weld it.  got it welded went back
 and fixed it and drove out of the trail.
 They were not happy but you have to stick together, by the way, I never
 met any of these people before and at first they did not even want a
 toyota wheeling with  them.  I heard that they were surprised how well
 the Toyota did even though I broke.
 I wish I could see them now because I know my truck could out wheel them
 anyday now. except those tight turning trails.
 If you have the attitude of I do not want to wheel with Jeeps, Chevy's
 etc. that will just tear our sport down over time.  "can't we all just
 get along".
 Toyota Tony
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 20:49:15 -0500
 From: Eli  Subject: re: Brake Fluid Level Sensor
 Some people were talking about disabling their brake fluid level sensor.
 I think it would be a bad idea because it's important to know what's
 going on. When my brakes feel kind of squishy and then that light comes
 on, I know there's a leak somewhere!
 Eli Madden
 Middlebury, Vermont
 '83 Shortbed under re-construction......
 eli@computeralt.com
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:24:41 EST
 From: Gnarly4X@aol.com
 Subject: Attn: EJ
 EJ,
 I'm not getting any emails from the list.  Is it on my end? Or has my
 subscription run out?
 Gnarls.
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 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:31:42 -0600
 From: Christopher Coffey  Subject: Aluminum Diamond Plate Corners
 Does anyone know of a company that makes aluminum diamond plate rear
 corner covers for an 85 4runner?  My drivers side is killed and I expect
 more dents to come.
 Chris
 ccoffey@bellsouth.net
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 Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 99 10:53:16 +0000
 From: eliot@cherco.net
 Subject: Engine Swap
 Does anyone have any information on an engine swap for an 88 4runner? Ideas
 Opinions?  Any input on simply getting more power out of the stock 22Re over
 swapping to something like a 283 Chevy engine? Or if I could find it..the old
 Buick Wildcat engine, 215 Ci 8 Cyl, I had one of those LONG ago...
 - -ej
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:48:08 +0000
 From: "Shaun"  Subject: Cruise Control
 I rarely do highway driving but when I do I occasionally use cruise
 control on the open stretches.  I noticed that the cruise control on
 my 4Runner cant keep the vehicle at a steady rate of speed anywhere
 near as well as well as I can control the vehicle speed with my foot.
 Could this perhaps be because one of my EFI components (perhaps my
 TPS) is out of adjustment?  The truck seems to accelerate,
 decelerate, accelerate etc all around the set speed but cant seem to
 just keep a smooth rate of speed.  Thanks in Advance
 Shaun, Colo Springs, Colo
 1988 4Runner V6 SR5 Auto
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 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:13:23 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: ADMIN: Grow Up, learn to SPELL, et al
 I am getting sick of the references to the above (Subject Line) posts.
 Cease posting messages pertaining to the topic(s) listed.
 Jim Brink
 List Administrator
 - --
 Jim Brink, Manhattan Beach, CA                   toytech@off-road.com
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician      http://www.off-road.com/~toytech/
 **********************************************************************
 1986 Std. Bed 4WD  -   TLCA  -  Friends of the Mojave Road  -  CA4WDC
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 07:12:51 -0800
 From: "Eric Johnson"  Subject: Toyota 8" rear wheel bearings
 Hey guys, I trashed a rear wheel bearing. At least i'm 99% sure its trashed.
 i was getting alot of noise in the rear end, and I pulled the axle, and it
 sure doesn't rotate smoothly in the backing plate. Am I right? If so, I
 don't have the press or fixture to press out the rear bearing. is there a
 good 'bubba' way to do it? Barring that, where would i go for this. the
 dealer? I've got the axle out of the vehicle, all I need is a old bearing
 off, new bearing pressed on.
 please cc me directly on the responses since I'm on digest mode...
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 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:50:22 -0700
 From: Park Owens  Subject: Re: marfield
 Chris Geiger wrote:> Has anyone heard if the Warn kit has had any failures yet? Any one on> the list install the Warn kit yet?>> --> Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://128.111.151.211/offroad
 Chris,
 There are two of us here running the Warn kit and neither one of us has
 had a problem...yet.  We're both set up to do the 4+ trails and have
 done so regularly since we installed the kits.  Mine went in in August
 98 and Jim VandeVen's went in during December 98.
 Just to see how it performed I took it to a particular place here in
 South Dakota where I had broken two Birfields to see how it would hold
 up.  It was very smooth with nary a hop or skip.
 Here's hoping the Warn product holds up.
 Cheers,
 - --
 Park Owens   rokcrwlr@DakotaCruisers.com   TLCA 2569   '76 FJ-40
 Dakota Territory Cruisers   P O Box 2238   Rapid City, SD  57709
 Home of the Black Hills Cruiser Classic         July 21-25, 1999
 TLCA Central/Mountain Representative      www.DakotaCruisers.com
 BlueRibbon Coalition Board of Directors
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 20:03:44 -0700 (MST)
 From: SKYETONE@webtv.net (SKYE JEROLAMON)
 Subject: Landcruser axle swap
 My buddy (Travis) just got a 81 toy and the front axle is DRY and
 possibly F**ked so we was wondering how wide are 70's fj40's axles are
 they wider or what I know that they are definetle stonger and what gears
 do they run with stock.
 We know where there are a pair in a junk yard and that would be a bad
 ass swap.let me know directly or on the page.
 I SUREE HOPES IES SPELD THAT THERE STUFF RITE ISE JUST WROTIN.
 86 Toyota X-cab short Line-X bed Rancho adds/tortions to match 2in body
 32-11.5 swamp sx Soon(before moab?) 4.88 tru-trak/detroit  SAAB  seats
 Custom roof rack with laza junk for life mutch more S##T
 that I don't want to list and you don't want to read
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 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:30:54 -0500 (EST)
 From: Brian Fair  Subject: New list member bio...
 See below....
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 Name: Brian Fair
 City & State: Jacksonville, Florida
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: wethree@positronic.cybermax.net
 Toyota (s) year & model: 1999 Tacoma Prerunner
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): No.
 Age: 16
 Occupation: Information Technology
 Marital Status: Single
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:
 Searching the web for pre-sale information on my truck, ran across the
 list.
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 Well, I pick up the truck tommorow afternoon (saturday)! They gave me a
 new camry to drive in the meantime. I would've liked to get a 4x4, but
 the insurance is bad enough because of my age... one day though! I was
 looking at used chevy fullsizes for a long time, but I checked out the
 tacoma's, and needless to say, was quite impressed. I hope to get some
 useful information off the list, but I enjoy reading about everyones
 experiences and ideas, and maybe I can contribute something. Thanks for
 having me!
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 08:33:17 -0500
 From: Rick Radford  Subject: Bio/Intro
 Hi friends,
 I've had a few problems getting squared away on this list... so I'll try
 posting this bio for the 3rd time. I am getting the digest fine... so I
 think all is well now.
 First, here's the bio:
 ==================================================
 Name:
 Rick Radford
 City & State:
 High Point, NC
 Country:
 USA
 E-mail address:
 RMRadford@compuserve.com
 RickRadford@ibm.net
 Toyota (s) year & model:
 1998 T100 SR5 4x4
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):
 N0
 Age:
 48 (but only admit to 28)
 Occupation:
 Captain for a regional airline based in Raleigh, NC.
 Marital Status:
 Married, 4.5 children
 Hobbies:
 I enjoy photography, am getting interested in 4 wheeling, enjoy motorcycles
 (presently without), fiddling with computers.
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:
 via Off-road.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 Bought this T100 in August '98, and sold my '96 Tacoma 4x4 in December '98
 (needed more room). I've added an over-the-rail Rhino liner, Westin nerf
 bars, and Husky floor liners to this Sunday driver.
 Am interested in learning more about 4 wheelin' in general.. and maybe
 coming to some events... (family affair?) Would like to convert the Toyota
 ADD system to manual hubs at some point... and maybe put on some Bilstein
 shocks. Also am considering an ARB lid at some point.
 ===================================================
 I look forward to lurking on this list.
 Thanks!
 Rick
 '98 T100 SR5 4x4
 Written at 08:32 on 20-Feb-99
 email:RMRadford@compuserve.com or RickRadford@ibm.net
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 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:59:45 -0600 (CST)
 From: PAUL PHILIPS  Subject: re: arbitration hearing
 The problem with my truck is some type of noise in the driveline that I've
 been trying to get fixed for six months running. It sounds like a ringing
 or chirping type of noise that has gotten louder with wear. It first was
 not too loud but noticeable, then it has gotten louder. Most of the people
 on the boards think it is a throwout bearing or input shaft problem
 because when I step on my clutch the noise goes away until I release it.
 Two Toyota dealers have looked at it. One thought it was the fuel
 injectors but wouldn't fix the problem. The other did a valve job on it
 and now it taps like crazy sometimes. So, I know its not the valves.
 Anyway, I've called Toyota several times through their Customer Assistance
 center and really gotten nowhere. They referred me to Gulf States Toyota
 who is the distributor and they acted like I was trying to scam them into
 buying the truck back. They didn't even arrange to have anyone even look
 at it before saying this. So, hello BBB Autoline. Now, I've got to go to
 an arbitration hearing next Thursday to try to get Toyota to fix the
 problem. They're going say that it is normal, but two service managers
 already told me it wasn't. They put in their response to my claim that
 they wanted to repair the vehicle so that they would be released from any
 repurchase liability. Well, that's whats been going on with it.
 **************************************************************************
 Paul Philips     Faculty, Communications Division
 Internet:  pphil@nav.cc.tx.us
 Navarro College                       Phone   :  903-874-6501 x360
 3200 W. 7th Ave.                      FAX     :  903-874-4636
 Corsicana,  TX  75110		       Personal:  pph159@mail.airmail.net
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:30:42 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: Toyota 8" rear wheel bearings
 Eric Johnson wrote:>> Hey guys, I trashed a rear wheel bearing. At least i'm 99% sure its trashed.> i was getting alot of noise in the rear end, and I pulled the axle, and it> sure doesn't rotate smoothly in the backing plate. Am I right? If so, I> don't have the press or fixture to press out the rear bearing. is there a> good 'bubba' way to do it? Barring that, where would i go for this. the> dealer? I've got the axle out of the vehicle, all I need is a old bearing> off, new bearing pressed on.
 Just about any automotive machine shop has the press fixtures to do
 this. There is an "at-home" way to do it, but it is kind of brutal, and
 of course, the standard disclaimers apply:
 Cover the bearing with a shop towel and whack the heck out of it with a
 short-handled sledge. 99% of the time, this will crack both the inner
 and outer races and you can just tap the inner race off of the shaft.
 Installing the new bearing is just a matter of tapping the new one on
 evenly with a hammer and punch.
 Use caution! This is a dangerous procedure...Flying metal parts can get
 into your eyes, hence the shop towel to catch "most" of the debris. Wear
 safety glasses when doing this.
 Better yet, just take it to the machine shop :-) A lot of places will
 press the bearing on for nothing if you buy the part from them.
 - --
 Jim Brink, Manhattan Beach, CA                   toytech@off-road.com
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician      http://www.off-road.com/~toytech/
 **********************************************************************
 1986 Std. Bed 4WD  -   TLCA  -  Friends of the Mojave Road  -  CA4WDC
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:32:32 -0500
 From: Clif Moyers  Subject: Difficult starting 22re
 I've posted this a year or so ago, but here goes again, since I've yet
 to find the solution.
 '85 22RE motor that takes much cranking before the fire lights.  Problem
 is much worse when engine is hot or warm. Typical cranking may take 5 to
 7 seconds when warm (having been parked, engine off,  for a couple of
 hours after driving).
 I've replaced the cold start switch, cold start injector, fuel pressure
 regulator.  Dealership found nothing - duh!?
 One thing I've learned from this (it's been this way for more than 5
 years, now):  these vehicles have one heck of a starter!
 Ideas?
 Clif
 cmoyers@mickey.cti-pet.com
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:46:55 -0500
 From: "Tim Cook"  Subject: FS: '86 Toyota 4X4 ExtraCab Automatic
 1986 ExtraCab 4X4 Pickup (red)
 Auto/OD Transmission
 22RE engine
 109K
 no engine or transmission leaks
 doesn't burn oil
 Typical, Cab good condition, bed rusty
 runs excellent
 new front rotors
 new exhaust manifold
 AM/FM Stereo/Cassette
 Clock
 located near Dayton, Ohio
 $2600
 If you are interested, please email direct timcook@erinet.com
 Thanks
 Tim
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:46:17 -0600
 From: Darren Capeheart  Subject: winch bumpers
 I've been looking at winch bumper options for an '82 4WD and it looks
 like the options are a Smittybuilt double tube, Pro Zap, or have it
 custom welded. I would rather get an ARB, but ARB says their bull bar
 has been discontinued for that year. My question is this, could a newer
 model ARB be modified to fit an '82? Or would it be better to go with a
 Pro Zap or Smittybuilt and if so, what kind of luck has anyone had with
 one of these combinations. I'm looking at using a 9000 pound winch.
 Readers experiences and suggestions would be highly appreciated.
 Darren
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 20:02:35 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: Difficult starting 22re
 Clif Moyers wrote:>> I've posted this a year or so ago, but here goes again, since I've yet> to find the solution.>> '85 22RE motor that takes much cranking before the fire lights.  Problem> is much worse when engine is hot or warm. Typical cranking may take 5 to> 7 seconds when warm (having been parked, engine off,  for a couple of> hours after driving).>> I've replaced the cold start switch, cold start injector, fuel pressure> regulator.  Dealership found nothing - duh!?
 You can jump the fuel pump to turn on independent of the Air Flow Meter
 to see if it starts faster in that condition. If jumping the fuel pump
 connector does it, you may have a problem with the AFM.
 The fuel pump test connector is a green or yellow connector located near
 the AFM. It sometimes has a little rubber plug covering the terminals.
 - --
 Jim Brink, Manhattan Beach, CA                   toytech@off-road.com
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician      http://www.off-road.com/~toytech/
 **********************************************************************
 1986 Std. Bed 4WD  -   TLCA  -  Friends of the Mojave Road  -  CA4WDC
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:41:20 EST
 From: Gnarly4X@aol.com
 Subject: Rear Skirts on a Runner
 Does anyone know of a company that makes aluminum diamond plate rear
 corner covers for an 85 4runner?  My drivers side is killed and I expect
 more dents to come.
 Chris
 ccoffey@bellsouth.net
 ***************
 Do your rear skirts have a seam?  If so, you can buy new ones and screw them
 on.  Or you can take them off.  I have an 85 Truck, so I'm not real sure if
 the rear skirts on a Runner is like the truck.
 Gnarls.
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:51:22 -0600
 From: Michael Woodruff  Subject: Ins. ??
 Some of you folks with rigs you have invested mucho money AND use them as
 daily (or frequent) drivers, tell me something.  What steps can you take to
 get your insurance co. to make sure you get some compensation for you
 expensive mods?  Say my truck gets totaled and they figure average retail on
 it is $5500.  Well......a cherry 85 4runner with ARB's and approximately
 $2000 in other goodies is worth more than that.  Any thoughts or advice??
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 00:22:25 EST
 From: Gnarly4X@aol.com
 Subject: Woodruff - Insurance question
 michaelwoodruff@mindspring.com (Michael Woodruff)  Wrote:
 Some of you folks with rigs you have invested mucho money AND use them as
 daily (or frequent) drivers, tell me something.  What steps can you take to
 get your insurance co. to make sure you get some compensation for you
 expensive mods?  Say my truck gets totaled and they figure average retail on
 it is $5500.  Well......a cherry 85 4runner with ARB's and approximately
 $2000 in other goodies is worth more than that.  Any thoughts or advice??
 *****************
 This happen to me with my 86 Truck.  My insurance company "totalled" it.  I
 was hit head on by another Toyota truck.  When they first offered a settlement
 check for $5,500 is was shocked.  I told them "no way", I have $6,200 worth of
 upgrades and accessories!!  So, I collected all the Truck Traders I could find
 in 3 counties and carefully went through every single page of Toy truck ads
 and found the ones that were very close to my truck in upgrades, mods, year,
 model, etc.  and cut out each page.  I found most all my receipts (Thank God I
 saved them!!!) and sent my insurance claims adjuster a package (certified
 mail).  I only sent the photocopies of my receipts and the Truck Traders
 pages.  Two weeks later they came back with their best and final offer of
 $8,900, plus I got back my $250 deductible.
 Advise:  Save every single receipt that you spend on your truck that is an
 upgrade, modification, or accessory.
 Gnarls.
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:24:35 -0600 (Canada Central Standard Time)
 From: kevin  Subject: electrical problems?
 It is just a month after buying a new Diehard battery, and today,
 my truck would not start.  It had enough power to put the tailgate window
 down, and the lights still worked, but when I turned the key, nothing.
 The lights dimmed, it does not even turn over.  In the fall, I replaced
 the brass fittings on the starter, have had the alternator, and starter
 checked, and bought a battery, hoping to cure the problem.  No luck.  If
 anyone has a thought, it would be appreciated.
 Kevin Norton
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:44:21 -0800
 From: Charles Bunn  Subject: (no subject)
 From off-road.com
 VOTE! In the CNN "More Wildreness" Poll! CNN has recently buried this
 poll into its nether regions so as to only attract those reading about
 "environmental issues" on a regular basis, thus biasing the results in
 favor of the land grab, Anti-ORV crowd.
 The url for this poll is
 http://www.cnn.com/TECH/science/9902/09/utah.wilderness.enn/index.html
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:52:12 -0800
 From: Greg Sue  Subject: Re: Tow hook bolts
 A friend of mine bought the proper tow hook bolts right from his local
 Toyota dealer; costed him Cdn$19.00 for six.  Apparently, they had to
 search all over North America for him, but they eventually arrived after
 about a month.  He no longer had the bag, so I couldn't get a part
 number from him.
 Also, I don't recommend buying those chrome hooks that somebody
 mentioned; go for the black or anodized ones instead, as they will be
 stronger.  If anyone in the Vancouver, BC area needs a pair of hooks
 (fits '85), I have a pair of Toyota hooks you can have for free; they
 are the ones with the little hooks on the rear as well.
 Greg Sue
 no-clue@mindless.com
 http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9948/
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:21:48 -0800
 From: "Bob"  Subject: Re: electrical problems?
 The same exact thing happened to me seven days after I got my Diehard.
 Oddly enough the problem was a bit of corrosion on the bottom of the battery
 cable lug.  The only symptom exhibited was it wouldn't start, everything else
 worked great.  After I took it into Sears and they initially troubleshot it to a
 bad starter.  After putting in a new starter (At a ripe price of $200.) it did the
 same thing.  They then cleaned the lugs and it worked great.  I made them
 put the old starter back in and they didn't charge me a thing.>  It is just a month after buying a new Diehard battery, and today,> my truck would not start.  It had enough power to put the tailgate window> down, and the lights still worked, but when I turned the key, nothing. The> lights dimmed, it does not even turn over.  In the fall, I replaced the> brass fittings on the starter, have had the alternator, and starter> checked, and bought a battery, hoping to cure the problem.  No luck.  If> anyone has a thought, it would be appreciated.
 Laters,
 Bob
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 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 23:05:43 -0800
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: Re: Seperate solid axel sticker? No way!
 Ok...  as long as I don't have to go wheelin' with FORDS!!!
 Just kidding  : P  I love wheelin' with lots of different trucks, and really
 love to hear those owners say, "WOW!"
 - -Kendoll
 - -----Original Message----->If you have the attitude of I do not want to wheel with Jeeps, Chevy's>etc. that will just tear our sport down over time.  "can't we all just>get along".
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:51:26 +0200
 From: =?ISO-8859-8?Q?=F8=E5=F0=E9_=EE=F0=E3=EC=E1=E0=E5=ED_-_Roni_Mande?= =?ISO-8859-8?Q?lbaun?=  Subject: Re: Gear Change
 Alex wrote:
 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:34:47 -0500
 From: "Alexandre Brousseau"  Subject: Re: Gear Change
 I dunno the LR but I suppose the setup is similar to the Niva? If so, then
 when you lock the central diff the problem is back, you will get a bind in
 the tcase... if you don't lock up the diff you're basically 2WD.. If you get
 one wheel in the air, it's going to get all the power right?
 - -----------------End
 Alex, That's the comcept, but you're in "all time 4x4". If you use your
 Discovery as Mom's taxi or school bus it's fine. Just don't try to lock the
 central diff. as you might "crash" some teeth. Basically, I don't understand
 the need to insrall different ratio R&P rear and front, unless you have
 different diameter wheels.
 Ron B. Mandelbaum, Deputy Spokesperson,PR and Media Affairs Manager
 Bezeq - Israel Telecom Corp. Ltd.
 Tel:  +972-3-5613858, Fax: +972-3-5614287
 1994 Toyota 4Runner V6 (3VZE) Automatic 4.56 Detroit "No Spin" Rear Soft
 Locker 30"x9.50 Cooper's STT - Custom Rear Bumper.
 Rear Window Sticker: www.off-road.com
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 02:01:02 -0700 (MST)
 From: SKYETONE@webtv.net (SKYE JEROLAMON)
 Subject: How low should I go?
 I will be doing gears and lockers in my 86 ifs toy i was going to go
 4.88's but the more I hear I wonder about 5.29's?
 The goal is 35-14or16-15 swampers or boggers in DEEP MUD and still be
 able to turn them easy.Will 5.29 be to much to drive on normaly?
 I have a five speed so I can upshift and I'm looking for <75mph>on
 highway I just want to know what everybody else is running for my own
 cross reference.
 86 Toyota X-cab short Line-X bed Rancho adds/tortions to match 2in body
 32-11.5 swamp sx Soon(before moab?) 4.88 tru-trak/detroit  SAAB  seats
 Custom roof rack with laza junk for life mutch more S##T
 that I don't want to list and you don't want to read
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:31:12 -0000
 From: "Hafsteinn Hafsteinsson"  Subject: Follow-up: Steering/Locker Problem?
 I'd like to add to my problem description that
 It also leans a bit towards the left when in 2WD
 but with the hubs still engaged although not nearly
 as much as when in 4WD.  If I disengage the hubs
 the problem goes away.
 Now I'm leaning towards the idea that it could be
 a Birfield/bearing problem.
 Haven't recieved any follow-ups yet but hope to!
 - -haffi (hafsteinn@caa.is)
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:37:23 EST
 From: Rrgoforth@aol.com
 Subject: Stock FJ-60 front bumper FS
 Hi everyone,
 I am selling my front bumper to make way for a tube bumper.  The stock chrome
 bumper is in great shape, with just a little minor scuffing on the plastic
 caps.  No dings and no rust on the outside surface.  I'm asking $100 OBO for
 this piece.  Buyer pays shipping.   Please let me know if you are interested.
 Thanks,
 Reuben
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 Reuben Goforth, 13900 15-Mile Rd., Marshall, MI 49068
 rrgoforth@aol.com  (Any other Michiganders out there?)
 '70 FJ-40  "Proddy" the Prodigal Son-- Future project
 '73 FJ-40  "?" Should get my hands on it in several months
 '87 FJ-60  "Big Blue"  Current Project
 '98 T-100  Everyday driver (for now)
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:03:59 EST
 From: HEATSINKER@aol.com
 Subject: Bio
 Name:Keith Pyne
 City & State:Toms River, NJ
 Country:USA
 E-mail address:heatsinker@AOL.com
 Toyota (s) year & model:1995 V6,4wd 4Runner (hers)...1999 V6 Tacoma Prerunner
 (mine)
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):No
 Age:32
 Occupation:Oil Refinery Process; asst operator
 Marital Status:married
 Hobbies:Work hard, Play hard
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:offroad.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:Both trucks are daily street
 drivers and as of now stock
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:31:19 -0600
 From: "Mark Normand"  Subject: cruise control>>I noticed that the cruise control on
 my 4Runner cant keep the vehicle at a steady rate of speed anywhere Shaun,
 Colo Springs, Colo
 1988 4Runner V6 SR5 Auto>> Shawn...before I bought my used 1993 4rnr I researched it on consumer
 reports or Edmunds car reviews, etc... and one of the problems was a
 drifting cruise control and a V-6 that runs like a strong 4cyl.  I bought
 the truck anyway  :-))   but the reports were right on the money. Since its
 so flat around here, cruise control drift is no big problem.
 Mark/Lafayette, La.
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:35:08 -0600
 From: "Mark Normand"  Subject: tow hooks/pith bolts>>Well, he's going to run into the same problem as he currently has - can't>>find the fine pith metric bolt that goes through the hook into the frame.
 Yep you got that right. But I *know* someone on this list can direct me
 where to buy these...please? Thx!
 Mark
 1993 4RNR
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:11:57 -0700
 From: "Peter Mathisen"  Subject: Personal Bio Info>===========================>Personal Bio Info>===========================>>POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>Name: Peter Mathisen>>City & State:  Peyton, Colorado>>Country: USA>>E-mail address: peter_lori@msn.com>>Toyota (s) year & model: 1979 Toy 4x4, 1985 4Runner, 1994 Toy pu>>Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): n>>Age:30>>Occupation: welder>>Marital Status: Happily married>>Hobbies: four wheeling>>How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: I was on the list
 before.  now I have an new address>>General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: the 4Runner is the family 4x4.
 All six of us love to go out wheeling we have it set up for seven people. I
 have a lift for it but it's not on beacuse I was reading on offroad.com
 about Chirs G. and this Alcam springs and crossover steering. I think this
 will be the way to go.
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:29:54 -0500
 From: "Alexandre Brousseau"  Subject: Re: Ins. ??>Some of you folks with rigs you have invested mucho money AND use them as>daily (or frequent) drivers, tell me something.  What steps can you take to>get your insurance co. to make sure you get some compensation for you>expensive mods?  Say my truck gets totaled and they figure average retail
 on>it is $5500.  Well......a cherry 85 4runner with ARB's and approximately>$2000 in other goodies is worth more than that.  Any thoughts or advice??
 Keep all the invoices for the stuff you bought and added to the truck. If
 you paid anyone to install them, keep the invoices as well. If you installed
 the stuff yourself, try and keep a log of the time you spent on it. And,
 more important than all, take LOTS of pictures of all the trick stuff you
 got! If you haven't done it yet, call them and see that they have to say on
 the subject.. I had no problem insuring my rig which is listed in books at
 like 1000$ for close to 5000$ because of all the mods & restoration
 Alex.
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:15:58 EST
 From: Rrgoforth@aol.com
 Subject: FJ-60 Spring leaves and wheel well cover FS
 Hi all,
 I have a few more things to add to my list of stuff to sell at this point.  I
 recently ordered some parts and mistakenly got a wheel well cover for the
 passenger side rear wheel well that was brown instead of gray...I
 misunderstood the item description, and it is a no-return part.  If you need a
 replacement brown cover for your FJ-60, I'll sell you this one new in the
 factory bag for $85 plus shipping (OBO)...I paid $105 for it plus shipping.  I
 am also replacing my rear stock leaf sprinngs because a few leaves were
 broken.  Since I didn't want to take the time to look for replacement leaves,
 I have just decided to get new ones.  However, if you need replacement leaves
 for your rear FJ-60 springs, drop me a line...I'm selling the remaining
 springs, which are in good shape, for $10 ea. for the top 2 leaves and $5 each
 for the rest.  Please e-mail for availability.  Thanks for looking...
 Reuben
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 Reuben Goforth, 13900 15-Mile Rd., Marshall, MI 49068
 rrgoforth@aol.com  (Any other Michiganders out there?)
 '70 FJ-40  "Proddy" the Prodigal Son-- Future project
 '73 FJ-40  "?" Should get my hands on it in several months
 '87 FJ-60  "Papa Smurf"  Current Project
 '98 T-100  Everyday driver (for now)
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 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:41:25 -0700
 From: "David Eggleston"  Subject: Re: Engine Swap
 +AD4-Does anyone have any information on an engine swap for an 88 4runner? Ideas
 +AD4-Opinions?  Any input on simply getting more power out of the stock 22Re
 over
 +AD4-swapping to something like a 283 Chevy engine? Or if I could find it..the
 old
 +AD4-Buick Wildcat engine, 215 Ci 8 Cyl, I had one of those LONG ago...
 +AD4--ej
 +AD4-
 I've done a 283 swap into my Toy, lots of power compared to the 22R. Now, a
 215... there's an engine I haven't seen in quite a while. I put one into a
 Triumph Spitfire about 15 years ago... that car ran GOOD afterwards. Very
 light engine being all aluminum and all, but a little lacking in the power
 department and aftermarket hop-up parts are not as readily available as
 other engines. I haven't checked if the parts for the Rover V-8s will work.
 In the 30-odd years since Buick sold the engine to British Leyland I am sure
 there have been significant changes. Something to look into, if you can find
 a decent one. Should get a solid 150-200 hp out of one though without the
 weight penalties of a different V-8 (may even lose some weight over the 22R)
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 Date: 21 Feb 99 10:20:53 PST
 From: james perong  Subject: bio
 BIO
 Name: James Perling
 City and State: Chino, California
 Country: U.S.A.
 E-mail Adress: perling@netscape.net
 Toyota Year and Model: 1995 pickup
 Are You a TLCA Member? No
 Age: 28
 Occupation: Sales
 Marital Status: Single
 Hobbies: Motorcycles (dirt), hunting, shooting, off-roading
 How Did You Find Out About the Mailing List? Off-Road.com
 General Info about Vehicle: 1995 p/u 3.0l V6, 4 inch lift, 33 BFG A/Ts
 Future Additions: Better torsion bars and rear springs, 4.88s, True Trak
 in the front / ARB in the rear, RS9000s w/remote, cobra 148 and good
 antenna, K&N or UNI filter, Downey headers and free flow exhaust, winch,
 ahh the list is endless!!!!
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