Toyota 4x4 digest:      Friday, February 12 1999      Volume 02 : Number 239
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Re: TAP question
IPF lights???
Truck In Jamacia, VT....
Seats, and wheel offset...
Bio & intro
AC compressor
TAP question
A/C costs (was Re: TAP question)
Re: Driveshafts - same or different?
310+ Toyota Links!
Re: wheel weights ballance
Re: wheel weights ballance
Re: Parts for the solid axle swap.........Earls Servi-Shop
Re: Driveshafts - same or different?
RE: wheel weights ballance
RE: Two Quick Questions:
Short water pump q
Re: Driveshafts - same or different?
Re: AC compressor
Re: TAP question
RE: rear heater!
Re: A/C costs (was Re: TAP question)
Re: wheel weights ballance
Re: TAP question
Battery Question
RE: Bump Stops
Re: wheel weights ballance
RE: My backup lights don't work??
Re: Short water pump q
RE: '85-'89 4runner Seat ?
Re: TAP question
Junkyards in general (was Re: TAP question)
Re: Aftermarket horn for Tacoma
Bio
Front suspension droop
RE:  Rancho's, catalog's, and CB's
Re: TAP (now A/C) question
Re: Parts for the solid axle swap.........Earls Servi-Shop
Re: Bio
Re: AC compressor
Re: TAP (now A/C) question
RE: Driving Lights
RE: Driving Lights
Re: Dash Brake Light
RE: Spare Tire
RE: IPF lights???
Tacoma and kids
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:16:10 -0400
From: "Andy Zook" 
Subject: Re: TAP question
>Now, wouldn't it have been better to pay $700 for a new A/C system >from a
discount Toyota dealer? This is why I don't buy too many >parts from
Junkyards. There rates compared to new are just to high.
This is not necessarily true. Junkyards such as TAP and other Toyota only
type places just know how much some people are willing to pay for these
things. As long as people keep buying them at these prices, why lower them?
It definately takes more work, but try calling around to all of your local
yards and asking if they have any Toyotas. You will usually find a few, and
the parts will be cheap. Besides, going to the junkyard is a great way to
blow a Saturday morning. I usually spend a few hours walking around and
broadening my vehicle knowledge. I am surprised at the number of people that
have never even been to the junkyard!
 I recently found a complete power steering setup for $50. Try getting that
price from a discount Toyota dealer :-) The local Toyota-only yard quoted me
almost $500 for PS!!!
__________________________
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:27:24 -0600
From: "Young, Jody" 
Subject: IPF lights???
 I left a message on the voicemail at Summit Offroad
and Glen returned my call.  We spoke briefly about the IPF lights that have
been discussed a bit lately.  It sounds like a good light and I think I
would like to get a set for my 95 4Runner, but Glen does not think they will
work.  He's not sure if the harness is H4 compatible?
 I told him that it was just a replacement bulb and
not the entire light  assembly and he sounded confused.  On their web page
they show the bulbs, but are these just replacements for some of the
aftermarket lights like Hella?
 If my bracket is not H4 compatible, then what needs
to be done to be able to run H4 lights.
 Does anyone have these lights on a 95 model Runner?
 Jody
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 08:30:02 -0600
From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
Subject: Truck In Jamacia, VT....
OK, who knows where Jamacia, VT is?  Anyone up near there???  I've got a lead
on a 1985 4x4 P/U that's not running (and I think missing wheels/tires), and
would like somebody to check it out.  I'll pay for the truck, and you can
have some parts that I don't need for your troubles (anyone need
sheetmetal??)  I know it doesn't run but it had the trans/transfer case, and
both axles.
E-mail me priveately if we can work something out.
Thanks,
 - Brian
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:49:23 -0500
From: responses@wn.net
Subject: Seats, and wheel offset...
Does anyone know if you can make the passenger seat on a 1st gen. 4Runner
slide back and forth while sitting in it, like the driver's seat?  It has
no movement at all other than tilting the back.???  Maybe a new mechanism
underneath is required??
Next question...
Why is it that the track width, (right terminology??) on the rear of the
same 1st gen runner
is an inch narrower than the front?  It looks funny, and I would like to do
something to even it out, but the studs for the rears are too short for the
thickness of an aluminum rim, plus a 1/2 inch wheel spacer...
Any help is always more than appreciated!
Trey
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:47:13 -0500
From: "Alexandre Brousseau" 
Subject: Bio & intro
Name:
 Alexandre Brousseau
City & State:
 L'Acadie, Quebec (20 mins south of Montreal)
Country:
 Canada
E-mail address:
 alexandre@securenet.net
Toyota (s) year & model:
 None yet, I do own 7 Suzukis though:
 1980 Suzuki LJ80 w/ 1984 1L engine
 1984 Suzuki SJ410 (2) for parts
 1985 HT Suzuki Samurai for parts
 1986 LWB Suzuki Samurai for parts
 1988 LWB Suzuki Samurai w/ 235 mud tires
 1988.5 Suzuki Samurai w/ 5.5" lift, 32x11.5 tires, winch and all kinds
of goodies
 ps: They're all for sale
 Looking to buy a Toyota pick-up very soon
Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):
 Nope
Age:
 22
Occupation:
 Computer programmer, currently working on Y2K (who isn't?)
Marital Status:
 I've been with my GF with over 4 years but we're not married
Hobbies:
 Wrenching, off-roading, camping, fishing, arachnology, sex, drugs and
rock and roll :)
How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:
 www.off-road.com
General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 I've been wheeling for a little over 2 years now. All of my wheeling
experience has been with Suzuki Samurais (and predecessors) but I'm
currently looking to buy a Toyota for this summer. I'm here for input :)
 Why a Toy and not a Zuk? I got 2 hours of commuting to do each day and
most of the trails are far from home. The zuk not liking to be riden at 100
km/h (when it's 63hp of raw power manages to get it there) is not a very
good option. I've been using a zuk for over a year for commuting and I've
had failure of about every part (both diffs, tcase, tranny, engine, rad,
heater, exaust, alt, starter, wheel bearings, kingpins, springs, driveshaft
slip yoke, u-joints (LOTS OF THOSE), etc etc etc. A few friends of mine have
Toyotas and they almost never have to wrench compared to me. It's a joke,
since i've been commuting with the Zuks, there is not a single week I got to
work without spending an evening or the weekend having to fix things.
 Furthermore, in the type of wheeling I do (mud, mud and some more mud),
wheelbase is not as important as tire size. 33s fit on the Toy without lift
if I'm not mistaken, while a Zuk with 33" looks like a monster and is sure
to attract the cops around here, which can't stand a lifted Zuk.
 Enough about me now...
Alex (alexandre@securenet.net) http://www.off-road.com/~sushi ICQ:12803861
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:54:15 -0800
From: "Steve" 
Subject: AC compressor
Does anybody have any info or sites about how to turn an AC
compresssor into an Air compressor, with a tank setup?
The AC compressor is on a 22RE engine right now.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Steve
'86 4Runner
Locked and ready to roll
http://members.aol.com/fourxtoy
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:08:54 -0600
From: "Chuck & Birgit" <4RUNNER4X4@prodigy.net>
Subject: TAP question
Chuck & Birgit's 4Runner Webpage
http://members.tripod.com/~schladenhauffen/index.html
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:45:04 -0500
From: "Karl Bellve, Ph.D." 
Subject: Re: TAP question
Now, wouldn't it have been better to pay $700 for a new A/C system from
a discount Toyota dealer? This is why I don't buy too many parts from
Junkyards. There rates compared to new are just to high.
- - --
Cheers,
Well at the time the cheapest for new was $1100.  I've just talk to Jay
Marks Toyota (Jeff Watson) he told me That he just sent one out for $1100
for a 88 truck.   BTW I do shop for the lowest prices.     So Who is selling
it for $700.  Please do tell :)
Chuck
 85 & 88    4runner4x4
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:18:32 -0500
From: "Karl Bellve, Ph.D." 
Subject: A/C costs (was Re: TAP question)
> - --
> Cheers,
>
> Well at the time the cheapest for new was $1100.  I've just talk to Jay
> Marks Toyota (Jeff Watson) he told me That he just sent one out for $1100
> for a 88 truck.   BTW I do shop for the lowest prices.     So Who is selling
> it for $700.  Please do tell :)
Brown's Toyota was selling them as low as $695 the last time I checked,
which was the last time I had a non A/C 4Runner (2 years ago). But they
do go up from their depending upon year and model of your truck. The
problem with older trucks is they might be forced to sell the new A/C
systems converted to the new refrigerant which will drive up the cost.
- --
Cheers,
Karl Bellve, Ph.D.                   ICQ # 13956200
Biomedical Imaging Group             TLCA# 7938
University of Massachusetts
Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
Phone: (508) 856-6514
Fax:   (508) 856-1840
PGP Public key: finger kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:18:13 -0700
From: "Jay Kopycinski" 
Subject: Re: Driveshafts - same or different?
Brian Wiencek wrote:
>
> > Dunno....hope to check this weekend. I swapped in a new front axle several
> > weeks ago. I removed shims up front and this changed my pinion angle
> > and made my driveshaft a bit too long. Just last night I cut it down and
> > shortened it about an inch.
>
> Did you cut & weld your driveshaft yourself?
Yes, I have done my front several times and did a rear recently as well.
Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:26:27 -0700
From: "Jay Kopycinski" 
Subject: 310+ Toyota Links!
Steven Benson  wrote:
>http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4/toyonly_links.html
Sheeeesh......there's no keeping up with you on this ;-)
I'm gonna cheat and just add a link over to your page
for all the extra links   :-)
Thanks!
Jay Kopycinski     '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:32:16 -0700
From: Park Owens 
Subject: Re: wheel weights ballance
Chris Geiger wrote:
>
>  a product called "Equal."
>
> What's it cost and where do you get it? I have pulled more than a few
> weights off on the trails. I would like to give this a try.
>
> --
> Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://www.off-road.com/~geiger
Chris,
You can get "Equal" at most major truck stops that offer tire repair.  I
got mine through our local Firestone dealer.  For 35x12.50x15 you need
an "E" bag which is 4 ounces.  Each bag cost me $8.  You can also have
"Equal" direct injected if whoever is doing it has the equipment and
then they just inject 4 ounces.  I don't have the price for that.
Cheers,
Park
- --
Park Owens   rokcrwlr@DakotaCruisers.com   TLCA 2569   '76 FJ-40
Dakota Territory Cruisers   P O Box 2238   Rapid City, SD  57709
Home of the Black Hills Cruiser Classic         July 21-25, 1999
TLCA Central/Mountain Representative      www.DakotaCruisers.com
 BlueRibbon Coalition Board of Directors
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:34:26 -0700
From: Park Owens 
Subject: Re: wheel weights ballance
David Eggleston wrote:
> Where do you get this stuff? While I haven't had any troubles with the
> stick-on weights, one of my tires is running just over two-pounds of the
> stuff and they lose balance fairly quickly :-(
> ==============
> David Eggleston
David,
I purchased my "Equal" from my local Firestone dealer.  It is also
available at most truck stops that do tire repair.  Each 4 ounce bag I
got for my 35s cost me $8.
Cheers,
Park
- --
Park Owens   rokcrwlr@DakotaCruisers.com   TLCA 2569   '76 FJ-40
Dakota Territory Cruisers   P O Box 2238   Rapid City, SD  57709
Home of the Black Hills Cruiser Classic         July 21-25, 1999
TLCA Central/Mountain Representative      www.DakotaCruisers.com
 BlueRibbon Coalition Board of Directors
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:36:59 -0700
From: "Jay Kopycinski" 
Subject: Re: Parts for the solid axle swap.........Earls Servi-Shop
DRM033@aol.com wrote:
>ryna10@email.sps.mot.com writes:
>> I run 20 -22 inch ones I mail ordered from Earl's. Price for the pair was
>>  about $35.
>Hey Jay, got a phone number for them?
Earls Servi-Shop #3
302 Gasoline Alley
Indianapolis, IN 46222
(317)241-0318
Thank Ed Wong for this contact.........
Jay Kopycinski   '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:47:49 -0700
From: "Jay Kopycinski" 
Subject: Re: Driveshafts - same or different?
Darren Floen  wrote:
>What type of frontend did you swap in?You said you removed some shims,is
>this because you cut and turned the knuckles?
Just another '84-85 housing.........
No, I had been running some shims up front for positive caster and had been
playing with pinion angles and caster after my crossover swap. I recently swapped
in a new axle housing with a few mods and upgrades and was able to finally
remove the shims I had been running. I had too much positive caster with the
old shims.
For you tall lift guys, cutting and turning the knuckles is a possibility. I
even have
an old Off-Road mag at home somewhere that showed how a shop did the mod.
The biggest pain in doing it would be dealing with the boxed trussing on the
axle housing. However, starting with an early un-trussed housing would make the
job easier.
Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:56:45 -0500
From: "Lawson, Chris" 
Subject: RE: wheel weights ballance
Park said:
For 35x12.50x15 you need
an "E" bag which is 4 ounces.  Each bag cost me $8.  You can also have
"Equal" direct injected if whoever is doing it has the equipment and
then they just inject 4 ounces.  I don't have the price for that.
Cheers,
Park
So, if I were to do this on my 33's I would remove all of the current
weights or leave them intact and add the powder?
Chris Lawson
85 stancab  3"sus, 2"body,  33" BFG MT's,
and a new pipe bender to finish the rest :)
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:17:06 -0500
From: "Ken Flesher" 
Subject: RE: Two Quick Questions:
> 2.  Besides the new hubs themselves what else do I need to
> convert to manual
> locking hubs?  I have the stock auto-locking and want to get rid
> of them....
> Badly!  I've read some stuff that says i need some kind of washer kit or
> something like that.. Is this included with new Warn Premium Hubs, or do I
> need to buy them separatly?
Yes, when you order the Warn kit, tell them you have the Autohubs, as there
is an additional kit required to put on the manual hubs. They are very
helpful on the phone, call them at 1-800-543-9276.
- -KLF
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:33:50 -0500
From: Michael Nelson 
Subject: Short water pump q
I have an 84 Chevy 350 in my Toy.  I am only using the water pump,
alternator, and power steering pump for accesories.  I need to see if it
is possible to switch from the long water pump to the short style.
The people I have talked to so far have told me that I need different
power steering brackets (or the older style pump and brackets),
different alternator brackets, double-groove water pump pulley and
double-groove crank pulley.
How much clearnace will I gain going to a short pump.  I really need
some more room on the front of this toy to fit a fan between the engine
and radiator.  I could use a pusher fan, but I don't think this will be
effective enough for an off-road truck.
Mike Nelson
'86 Toy
'85 Toylet
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:10:57 EST
From: DRM033@aol.com
Subject: Re: Driveshafts - same or different?
ryna10@email.sps.mot.com writes:
> The biggest pain in doing it would be dealing with the boxed trussing on the
>  axle housing. However, starting with an early un-trussed housing would make
> the
>  job easier.
I may have mine turned by a friend if it needs it.  He has the equipment, and
only charges like $150 for it.
Since I am starting with the earlier housing (81), anybody looked into
trussing one of these themselves?
David
DRM033@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:30:33 -0700 (MST)
From: Scott Ellinger 
Subject: Re: AC compressor
> Does anybody have any info or sites about how to turn an AC
> compresssor into an Air compressor, with a tank setup?
There's a link to the text writeup I did on converting mine
(Ford, but the Toyota is very similar) from my Freak Tech
page.
- --scott
Scott Ellinger   ellinger@holly.colostate.edu   Larimer County 4WD Club
 Visit my Home Page: http://holly.colostate.edu/~ellinger
 '86 Toy pickup body, Ford 5.0, GMC NV4500, "slightly altered" RKSTMPR
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:05:15 -0800
From: Brandon Miller 
Subject: Re: TAP question
I did my complete system for about $100 (A/C), I found people were willing to
sell the individual parts a lot cheaper than the whole system so over a week I
got the parts and I am pretty happy with my new cold air!
Andy Zook wrote:
> >Now, wouldn't it have been better to pay $700 for a new A/C system >from a
> discount Toyota dealer? This is why I don't buy too many >parts from
> Junkyards. There rates compared to new are just to high.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:27:22 -0500
From: "Ken Flesher" 
Subject: RE: rear heater!
> You may want to think long and hard before attempting such a
> retro-fit, here's why.  It ads 4 more custom bent hoses to your heating
> system.  Two that splice out of your regular heater hose and then feed to
> some metal tubbing that leads to the middle of the truck.  Then there are
> two more hoses that connect the metal tubes to the second heater core
> located in the center console.  The center console has its' own blower and
> heater core.  This ads 4 more hoses that can spring leaks along
> with another
> special heater core.
Retro'ing this in would probably be difficult, and VERY expensive. You'll
need a whole new center console, at least.
> Mine never broke on me, but I often wondered how much toyota would charge
> for one of those nifty little special hoses or god-forbid it the special
> heater core.  Also, your center cousel only has a 1" deep storage area and
> it sucked!!!!  The heat was nice, but really more of a novelty than
> anything...
I wouldn't call it a "novelty", I find it very useful for warming up the
entire cabin space. But, the loss of storage in the console is a drag.
- -KLF
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:08:58 -0800
From: Brandon Miller 
Subject: Re: A/C costs (was Re: TAP question)
I also found that face to face (not on the phone) I was able to get a LOT lower
prices..
"Karl Bellve, Ph.D." wrote:
> > - --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Well at the time the cheapest for new was $1100.  I've just talk to Jay
> > Marks Toyota (Jeff Watson) he told me That he just sent one out for $1100
> > for a 88 truck.   BTW I do shop for the lowest prices.     So Who is selling
> > it for $700.  Please do tell :)
>
> Brown's Toyota was selling them as low as $695 the last time I checked,
> which was the last time I had a non A/C 4Runner (2 years ago). But they
> do go up from their depending upon year and model of your truck. The
> problem with older trucks is they might be forced to sell the new A/C
> systems converted to the new refrigerant which will drive up the cost.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Karl Bellve, Ph.D.                   ICQ # 13956200
> Biomedical Imaging Group             TLCA# 7938
> University of Massachusetts
> Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
> Phone: (508) 856-6514
> Fax:   (508) 856-1840
> PGP Public key: finger kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:39:57 -0700
From: Park Owens 
Subject: Re: wheel weights ballance
Lawson, Chris wrote:
>
> Park said:
> For 35x12.50x15 you need
> an "E" bag which is 4 ounces.  Each bag cost me $8.  You can also have
> "Equal" direct injected if whoever is doing it has the equipment and
> then they just inject 4 ounces.  I don't have the price for that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Park
>
> So, if I were to do this on my 33's I would remove all of the current
> weights or leave them intact and add the powder?
>
> Chris Lawson
Chris,
You remove all current weights and just run the Equal internally in the
tire.  Equal has a chart that tells you how much powder to put in
depending upon the size of your tire.  33s may or may not need a 4 ounce
"E" bag.
Cheers,
Park
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Park Owens   rokcrwlr@DakotaCruisers.com   TLCA 2569   '76 FJ-40
Dakota Territory Cruisers   P O Box 2238   Rapid City, SD  57709
Home of the Black Hills Cruiser Classic         July 21-25, 1999
TLCA Central/Mountain Representative      www.DakotaCruisers.com
 BlueRibbon Coalition Board of Directors
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:07:37 -0800
From: Brandon Miller 
Subject: Re: TAP question
I got my stuff from Toyautomart (across the street from "rip off" TAP) and have
had NO problems. I did try to get one part from TAP, it was outragously priced and
did NOT fit - they would not even let me return it even when I showed them how it
did not fit on my truck!! I was able to get half of what I paid back for it - I
HATE TAP!!!! There, said my opinion ;)
"Karl Bellve, Ph.D." wrote:
> Chuck & Birgit wrote:
> >
> > Ive use tap alot.   I got my ac system for my 88 4runner from them for $500,
> > there is a 6 mo. waranty on used  parts..  well to make a long story short
> > they had to replace 2 compresser, and 2 cooling unit that mount inside the
> > cab, no question ask, they were quick to get to the replacement parts to me
> > and at no extra charge......and i still have the old Parts.
> >
> > Chuck
>
> Now, wouldn't it have been better to pay $700 for a new A/C system from
> a discount Toyota dealer? This is why I don't buy too many parts from
> Junkyards. There rates compared to new are just to high.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Karl Bellve, Ph.D.                   ICQ # 13956200
> Biomedical Imaging Group             TLCA# 7938
> University of Massachusetts
> Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
> Phone: (508) 856-6514
> Fax:   (508) 856-1840
> PGP Public key: finger kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:34:26 -0800
From: Rey_Nicolas@dgii.com
Subject: Battery Question
Has anybody on the list installed a secondary battery?
If so, where on the truck did you place it?
I wanna try to keep it in the engine bay, but it looks like
there ain't no room for it.
I have 87 4Runner, 22RE
Any ideas or information would be helpful.
Rey Nicolas
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:37:29 -0500
From: "Ken Flesher" 
Subject: RE: Bump Stops
> Also does
> anyone know what the stock length shocks would be I got rancho's. I am
> looking for the rancho #'s?
Check the Rancho chart on the OWC site for the lengths. Very useful info.
- -KLF
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:44:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Brian Wiencek 
Subject: Re: wheel weights ballance
> You can get "Equal" at most major truck stops that offer tire repair.
Yep and sweet-n-low too!   Who says my tires are gettin' too big that they
have to go on a diet ;-)
- - Brian
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:37:28 -0500
From: "Ken Flesher" 
Subject: RE: My backup lights don't work??
> I have checked the easy stuff but my backup lights have never worked and
> it bugs me at night.Is there a secret hiding place for the bugs that eat
> lights that I'm not finding?Fuses OK Lights NEW Wireing OK Now what?
> I figure I'd jump on the light problem bandwagon. Let me know
Have you checked the tranny switch? Crawl underneath the passenger side,
pull off the connector, and stick a chunk of wire across the contacts. Turn
your key to the ON position, and check the lights.
- -KLF
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:49:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Brian Wiencek 
Subject: Re: Short water pump q
> I have an 84 Chevy 350 in my Toy.  I am only using the water pump,
> alternator, and power steering pump for accesories.  I need to see if it
> is possible to switch from the long water pump to the short style.
Yep it's possible, I think you gain about 1.2" or so - I ran that combo in
my '84 with an '85 chev engine (see: http://www.off-road.com/~bwiencek ).
I had about 1" of clearance for a std. clutchless fan.
> The people I have talked to so far have told me that I need different
> power steering brackets (or the older style pump and brackets),
> different alternator brackets, double-groove water pump pulley and
> double-groove crank pulley.
Depndes on your needs, I used the double groove pulley setup to run the
A/C, the P/S and the alternator.  All your accessories will need to be
moved back the same amount as the pulley groves moved.  What alternator
and P/S pump are you using (toy or GM?)
- - Brian
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:47:31 -0500
From: "Ken Flesher" 
Subject: RE: '85-'89 4runner Seat ?
> In my quest for looking for a 4 Runner, I think I may have overlooked a
> slightly important angle. Will my kids fit in the truck? My question to
> you guys is: How big is the back seat???? I've got 3 kids ranging from 7
> mths to 8 yrs old. One will be in a car seat, one in a booster seat and
> the oldest just in a belt. Any responses will be greatly appreciated!!!
Chris:
We also have 3 kids, comfort in the rear is no problem. But, it's a pain
getting in and out if you plan to do this a lot. If this is your only
vehicle, I'd recommend you look for a '90+ with 4 doors. Also, try to get a
rear heater.
- -KLF
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:59:31 -0400
From: "Andy Zook" 
Subject: Re: TAP question
Brandon Miller wrote:
>Andy Zook wrote:
 >Now, wouldn't it have been better to pay $700 for a new A/C system >from a
discount Toyota dealer? This is why I don't buy too many >parts from
Junkyards. There rates compared to new are just to high.
Hey!!! I didn't write this!! I buy everything from the junkyard :-)
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:14:01 -0500
From: "Karl Bellve, Ph.D." 
Subject: Junkyards in general (was Re: TAP question)
Andy Zook wrote:
>
> Brandon Miller wrote:
>
> >Andy Zook wrote:
>  >Now, wouldn't it have been better to pay $700 for a new A/C system >from a
> discount Toyota dealer? This is why I don't buy too many >parts from
> Junkyards. There rates compared to new are just to high.
>
> Hey!!! I didn't write this!! I buy everything from the junkyard :-)
> __________________________
Hey, yes you did! Actually I did!
Well, I have rebuilt many cars from the junkyard. Usually to save on
sheet metal costs.
But, I am wise to the way of junkyards, ever since Monkey Wards replaced
a broken stalk on my wifes car for $13 (new from Ford) during a safety
inspection and that very day, I bought a used one from a yard for $10. I
brought the stalk in to Moneky Wards, and they said they got a new one
from Ford. And I was looky stupid with a grimy overpriced stalk ;-)
On the other hand, I picked up a used Toyota Cressida steering box from
a yard for $35 that I will be using for crossover steering.
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Cheers,
Karl Bellve, Ph.D.                   ICQ # 13956200
Biomedical Imaging Group             TLCA# 7938
University of Massachusetts
Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
Phone: (508) 856-6514
Fax:   (508) 856-1840
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:10:52 -0600
From: "Young, Jody" 
Subject: Re: Aftermarket horn for Tacoma
 This may sound cheap (or tacky), but to me the best
thing is to hit a junk yard and get a horn (or two) from some Caddy,
domestic full sized truck, or the like.
 On my 94 Xtracab I put a horn from a F**d F150 and
one from a Ch**y S10.  I like to be a little different, and it sounded very
good.  You will probably want to use a relay, but they are very easy to hook
up.  On my 94 I had to partially remove the front grill to get enough
clearance to mount everything.
 I also hate the horn on my 95 4Runner and I'll
probably check out the junk yards for a late model Beemer next week.  I like
the sound of the horn on those and they are real loud.
 Best of all,  I paid about $15 for both of the horns
on my 94.
 Jody
 Craig wrote...
 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:34:58 -0800
 From: Craig McCabe  Subject: Aftermarket horn for Tacoma
 Hey, folks.
 I'm looking to replace the wimpy stock horn on my
Tacoma.  It's pathetic.  I
 was looking at either the Hella dual air horns, or
the Hella Twin Supertone
 horns.  (they were the two I saw in the Performance
Products catalog)  Anyone
 using either of these, or a different aftermarket
model?  Easy installation?
 Any opinions or recommendations appreciated...
 Craig
 1996 Tacoma Xcab 4x4 v6
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:20:56 -0700 (MST)
From: CLWarn@webtv.net (Chris Warn)
Subject: Bio
Name: Chris Warn
City/State: Clearfield, Ut
Country: USA
Email: CLWarn@webtv.net
Make & model: 94 4Runner 3.0l
TLCA member: No
Occupation: SSgt/E-5 USAF, Security Forces
Marital Status: Single
Age: 29
Hobbies: Wheelin, Golfing, Skiing, Shooting, anything outdoors.
I'm glad I found this digest or newsgroup or whatever ya call it. I'm
sure it will be of help.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:26:07 -0500
From: "Alexandre Brousseau" 
Subject: Front suspension droop
Hi there poeple,
 I'm new to the list, so if there is anything wrong with my way of doing
things, please email me privatly and tell me. Thanks.
 Well here goes my first question to the list. As I stated in my bio, I'm
buying a Toy for this summer, most likely a pickup model, possibily 4Runner.
I want to get one of the pre'86 models to get a solid front axle. Sooo I got
a question..
 My rear suspension flex is pretty much planned. I will put some 4-5"
lift springs along with some long & flat buggy springs with some kind of
locking system to keep them from opening on the road.
 Now my idea for the front is to do something I got from the zuk crowed
but after talking to a pal who has a Toy, I found out the front suspension
is setup with a rear shackle rather than the 'usual' front shackle systems.
I suppose a buggy leaf system up front would create some major driveline
problems, unless someone can tell me the opposite (?)
 All comes down to this. How much work would it to make a shackle reverse
up front on the Toy? The whole deal would be to perhaps drop the the
suspension mounts at the same time, which would permit me to use less arch
on my springs to prevent axle wrap and, more importantly, to be able to use
a double shackle system up front.
 Anybody ever done a shackle reverse (or would we call it a rereverse?
perhaps verse? :) ) on a solid axle toy or would know what problems I would
encounter? If there are any other ideas to get a radical syspension up
front, send it my way, I'm exploring all my possibilities...
Alex.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:48:41 -0800
From: "Roger Brown, P.E." 
Subject: RE:  Rancho's, catalog's, and CB's
> CB's:  The only CB that I would ever really recommend to you is a Cobra 148
> GTL or it's Uniden equivalent, the Grant XL.  Unfortunately, they don't do
> well under ashtray's, I would think, but the value and quality of the radio
> is good enough to make you mount it on the hump or something.  I have a
> Uniden President HR2510 that's not even in production anymore, and I'll
> just leave it on the hump until I get my Mastercraft seats put in and have
> enough room for a good center console!
I can vouch for the Grant XL, an awesome radio, albeit a tad on the large
side.  I ended up mounting it on the driver's side door.  I picked up a refurb
unit from Uniden's on-line store.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:59:01 -0800
From: "Roger Brown, P.E." 
Subject: Re: TAP (now A/C) question
I think my stocak A/C (R12) compressor has finally gone, so I'm considering my
options.  Since I already have a decent air compressor, I will probably keep
the A/C.  Are there new/used R134 compressors that will fit an '85 22RE
engine?
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:00:50 EST
From: DRM033@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parts for the solid axle swap.........Earls Servi-Shop
ryna10@email.sps.mot.com writes:
> Earls Servi-Shop #3
>  302 Gasoline Alley
>  Indianapolis, IN 46222
>  (317)241-0318
Thanks Jay (& Ed).  I chacked with them, but they said I would need to fax
them the specs on what I needed.  Sooo...  I called Rosser Jeep & got a set of
stainless front lines (25" long) and a rear line (23" long) that will be here
Tuesday for $65 - Not too bad I guess.
David
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:46:02 EST
From: Iwheel4x4@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bio
Welcome to the list Chris.  Enjoy!
Allen Dickenson     IWheel4x4@aol.com
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/8895/
1995 4Runner Limited - "FT KNOX" - Downey 1.5" rear lift springs, t-bars
cranked, ARB Bull Bar, Rancho RS9000?s front, RS5000?s rear, 31x10.5 BFG
A/T?s, K&N drop-in, raised diff. breathers, low-profile bumpstops, Smittybilt
Nerf Bars, Warn Premium hubs, Hella 100W 500's.
> Name: Chris Warn
>
>  City/State: Clearfield, Ut
>
>  Country: USA
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:10:16 EST
From: DRM033@aol.com
Subject: Re: AC compressor
steve@er.lanl.gov writes:
> Does anybody have any info or sites about how to turn an AC
>  compresssor into an Air compressor, with a tank setup?
>  The AC compressor is on a 22RE engine right now.
>  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>  Steve
Within 2 weeks, I should have the pics & story from a friend who runs an 88
Toy truck 22RE with A/C and another Toy A/C compressor as an air compressor.
I will post the address of my page as soon as I get this up.
David
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:13:13 -0800 (PST)
From: TrailDogg@webtv.net (~Trail Dogg~)
Subject: Re: TAP (now A/C) question
has anyone tried the retrofit 134 refill kits at Kragens,$35-45? has
adapters and 134 coolent.
Darren Sinkey//SeaBass!
82 l/b 22r,7"@33"s
Oroville,Ca.?????where?
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:08:55 -0500
From: "Ken Flesher" 
Subject: RE: Driving Lights
> Any recommendations on good, but inexpensive driving
> lights for a 1999 Tacoma 4X4?
I really like my Hella 500's. Gotta mount them standing up, though.
PP has the best prices.
- -KLF
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:19:00 -0500
From: "Ken Flesher" 
Subject: RE: Driving Lights
> You could try the Hella 500 kit. A pair comes with the wiring kit costs
> about $60. They are 6" in diameter.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention, the wiring kit is junk. The switch is really
cheap, low quality. The relay doesn't look that dependable either. I
recommend the Toyota in-dash switch.
- -KLF
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:44:40 -0700
From: "Charles Johnson" 
Subject: Re: Dash Brake Light
I have a 91 p/u and the light was stuck on.  The brake fluid was just low.
Added more, and it went off.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:18:59 -0500
From: "Ken Flesher" 
Subject: RE: Spare Tire
> In light of the spare tire hoist problems that many have, has anyone
> thought of replacing it with a cable hoist?  Even without the mechanism
> all binded up with rust, the links on the chain kink up and is difficult
> to lower.  A rust free cable system would lower and raise nice and
> smooth.
At some point, the hoist was changed from using a chain to SS cable. Don't
know the year, but my '92 is a cable. Maybe it will fit the older trucks?
- -KLF
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:49:13 -0500
From: "Ken Flesher" 
Subject: RE: IPF lights???
> 			I told him that it was just a replacement bulb and
> not the entire light  assembly and he sounded confused.  On their web page
> they show the bulbs, but are these just replacements for some of the
> aftermarket lights like Hella?
>
> 			If my bracket is not H4 compatible, then what needs
> to be done to be able to run H4 lights.
>
> 			Does anyone have these lights on a 95 model Runner?
Jody:
The 92-95 4Runners take an H5 or 9004 bulb, not the H4. The H4 bulb won't
fit into the headlight assembly, it has a metal flange base, but the H5 is a
ceramic/plastic base, totally different.
- -KLF
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:04:43 -0500
From: "NUNES, ROB" 
Subject: Tacoma and kids
Need information regarding the rear seating in the Tacoma. About to buy a
'99, but not sure of the rear seating.
I have a 3 year old and a new born.
Has anyone ever tried putting a child seat in the rear of a Tacoma?
What is your experience with it?
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