Toyota 4x4 digest:      Tuesday, February 2 1999      Volume 02 : Number 220
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 attn Scott E
 Re: Tubing Bender Rental
 Re: Almost rolled my pickup
 Re: ALCAN SPRINGS
 Re: Four Wheeler TV tonight!
 BIO
 Re: skid plate bent
 4.88
 Suggestion on Subject
 Where in the heck is the Electric Window fuse?
 Re:Toyota stuff on e-bay.com
 rear disc brakes (fwd)
 Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V2 #219
 RE: Alternator
 Santiago Canyon article in OC Register
 Re: ALCAN SPRINGS
 The tranny thing, solved?  No...
 Hollister Hoopla?
 Re: The tranny thing, solved?  No...
 Re: Hollister Hoopla?
 Pic of the Month
 Re: Pic of the Month
 Re: Pic of the Month
 Poly bushings install
 Alternator's
 bio
 32 inch wheels on a 1990 4Runner
 Blown rear brake cylinder
 Re: Q for Jim Brink (not 4x4, but toyota)
 Re: 32 inch wheels on a 1990 4Runner
 Lost Emails
 Back on the List
 Re: Four Wheeler TV tonight!
 Re: Blown rear brake cylinder
 Re: attn Scott E
 Re: Suggestion on Subject
 Re: Four Wheeler TV tonight!
 backspacing
 RE: Four Wheeler TV
 re: engine swap question  #2
 Selling a BEAUTIFUL FJ40!!!
 Wheeling this weekend
 Re: Selling a BEAUTIFUL FJ40!!!
 Bio
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 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:26:37 -0700
 From: sam campbell  Subject: attn Scott E
 hey i was in Ft collins today...and i remebered you had mentioned
 something about wanting a 6x6 as a tow rig...have you seen the camo one
 on north college(within a couple of blocks of ft collins 4x4)? i was in
 a big truck, so i couldn't get off to check it out, but it might be
 worth a look...
 sam
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:22:09 EST
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: Re: Tubing Bender Rental
 ellinger@HOLLY.COLOSTATE.EDU writes:>  I know everybody's cobbled something together once or twice--any ingenious>  trail fixes out there that have become permanent?  :)
 A piece of bark has now served as wiring insulation for the EFI fuel injectors
 to keep them from shorting on the fuel rail for 3 years...
 I once took it out & tried to get some *real* wire loom in there - never
 worked as good as the bark so the bark went back in.
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
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 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:39:46 -0800
 From: "Roger Brown, P.E."  Subject: Re: Almost rolled my pickup
 James wrote:>>You don't hear that very often :-)> What Hitting a Roo or rebuilding the suspension?
 Or going 140 km/h, not sure my truck could go that fast!
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 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:48:33 -0800
 From: "Roger Brown, P.E."  Subject: Re: ALCAN SPRINGS
 Karl and Chris wrote:>> BTW I am not sure why but when I put my current front springs on I put>> the one labeled "R" on the passenger side of the truck and I put the one>> labeled "L" on the driver side. The truck leaned to the left after I was>> done. I drove the truck for a week to see if they would settle back to>> level but after a week the right side was still 3/4" higher then the>> left. I removed both springs and switched them left for right. Now the>> truck is level. So when using Alcan springs consider using the left>> spring on the right side and the right spring on the left side. worked>> for me.>> Did you finally use the one with more arch on the driver's side? Since> the passenger's pirch is higher, you normally put the one with less arch> on that side.
 I plan on welding a 3/8" steel block onto the driver's side perch to make it
 equal in height to the passenger side then just order two identically arched
 springs for the front.
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:05:31 -0500 (EST)
 From: "Karl D. Bellve, Ph.D."  Subject: Re: Four Wheeler TV tonight!
 On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Karl D. Bellve, Ph.D. wrote:>>> Just a late reminder. Four wheeler TV is on ESPN2 tonight at 6:30pm.> Well, no Four Wheeler TV. My DSS system menu lied to me and showed short
 track truck racing. Which was still cool to watch.
 Cheers,
 Karl Bellve, Ph.D.                   ICQ # 13956200
 Biomedical Imaging Group             TLCA# 7938
 University of Massachusetts
 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-6514
 Fax:   (508) 856-1840
 PGP Public Key: finger kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:05:54 -0600
 From: "Young, Jody"  Subject: BIO
 ===========================
 Personal Bio Info
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 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
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 Name: Jody Young
 City & State: West Monroe, LA
 Country: the one Saddam has nightmares about
 E-mail address: jodyyo@fbd.com;
 , jyoung@bayou.com
 Toyota (s) year & model: 1. 1994 Xtracab 2. 1995
 FourRunner
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): nope
 Age: 30 something
 Occupation: Playing with AutoCad all day
 Marital Status: Finally getting rid of her
 Hobbies: bunches
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing
 List: previous subscriber
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 1994 Xtracab with 22RE, Downey header, no cat, Borla
 muff with 2 ?" exhaust (no original exhaust left except 02 Sensor), K&N
 drop-in filter, extended differential breathers, 32x11.50 Bridgestone Dueler
 M/T's, ARE "Bullet" wheels, Warn X8000I on Warn Combo Kit (actually just
 pulled off to put on FourRunner), bug deflector on hood (we've got really
 big bugs here in Louisiana), Vent-Visors, and some other things that I've
 forgotten.
 1995 FourRunner with 3VZE and really bad gas
 mileage, 32x11.50 Bridgstone Dueler M/T's, K&N drop-in filter, Flowmaster
 muffler, Warn X8000I on the combo kit I just pulled off the 94 truck, tail
 light brush guards (the little flimsy ones), and that's it (but I've only
 had it 2 weeks now).
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:13:28 -7 GMT
 From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III"  Subject: Re: skid plate bent> From: mrodg@juno.com>> Technically, I think it is called a "Splash Guard" not skid plate.  It is> not tough enough to be a skid plate.  It will keep water splashing up> into the engine compartment to a minimum.> the best description i saw for it, was 'louvered panel'...
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 ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:47:29 -0700 (MST)
 From: Buter Gregory A  Subject: 4.88
 anyone know of used 3rd members with 4.88's in them for sale.
 for an 88 4runner w/ 4cylinder.
 thanx(worth a try)
 greg
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:04:38 -0500
 From: "Thomas Clay"  Subject: Suggestion on Subject
 Hey Guys,
 How about when you are sending a post that is a question, you put a (?) at
 the end of your subject. It sure is a REAL DRAG to see a subject on
 something of interest, only to discover that the person who sent the post is
 asking a question, instead of offering a cure.
 Thanks Gang in advance.
 Tom.
 kd1ke@uninets.net
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 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:15:47 -0800
 From: markus  Subject: Where in the heck is the Electric Window fuse?
 Hi guy's
 I am still working on this broken passenger window mobility problem... I
 think it is the switch.
 ...but it seems yesterday this banana mechanic attempting to jump the
 window and roll it up shorted out a fuse or something.
 ...there is no plastic cover on the fuse box so I can't tell which is
 the fuse for the electric windows.  I have looked at them all but no can tell.
 Could some one please email me direct with the where abouts of this
 fuse(s) and perhaps the other ones behind the kick plate and what they
 belong to.  88 4runner
 The Toyota dealer didn't have this on microfesh or in the repair book he
 sold and I have asked three toy owners with no luck.
 please email me direct thanks
 markus@bymarkus.com
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:11:48 -0500
 From: "Nanci & Charlie"  Subject: Re:Toyota stuff on e-bay.com
 The things you can find if you just keep your eyes open,
 was looking for a 87 Toy factory manual last week on the list,
 ran across e-bay, found one,and lo-in-be-hold I was high bidder
 for it at $21.50  Factory wanted $135.
 www.ebay.com
 and go through the search engine (Toyota)
 Hope this helps someone, as I pass it on my good fortune.
 Beantown Charlie
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:06:01 -0500 (EST)
 From: Byrond Davenport  Subject: rear disc brakes (fwd)
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:04:54 -0500 (EST)
 From: Byrond Davenport  To: jayk@off-road.com
 Subject: rear disc brakes
 Hey Jay,
 I have a toyota 89 4x4 V6, with a Rancho lift and full detroit rear, ez
 in the front, 33's, 4.88's.
 I have not kept up with the discussion on the best way to put disc brakes
 on the rear.  I like the idea that you employed on your truck.
 So far I have located a set of calipers off of a Seville, and a pair of
 rotors from a chevy, What else do I need?
 I looked at your scanned in mounts for the calipers, and I think that I
 can copy your design.  Should I try to get the caliper mount pins off of
 another donor car?  Or should I just try GM?  I believe that I will need
 pieces of the Seville cables to fab up the new E-brake lines, but that is
 not hard.  I also think that I can make the hard lines to mate to the
 calipers.
 Do I need a 2,5,10 lb residual in-line valve for the back?  Are there any
 hints that you could help me with?  This weekend I will have all the
 parts that I think I will need, this is my daily driver.  Could I
 complete the swap in a Saturday?  Or is there other problems that need to
 be addresssed?
 Thanks for the help,
 Byron Davenport
 byrond@ice.bae.uga.edu
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 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:00:07 -0800
 From: Benjamin Lee  Subject: Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V2 #219
 Ken Wrote:>> You really don't need to buy the whole M/C, your dealer can sell you a> rebuild kit for a lot less. Either way, yes you'll need to bleed the system> after fixing it. Be careful to not get any brake fluid on your paint! It can> attack the paint.>> Oh yeah, make sure you only use a decent flare wrench on the fittings.> You'll round over the soft brass if you use a regular open-end wrench.>> - -KLF
 I used a trick to loosen rusted brake fittings on beat up cars back in
 high school days when I did not have the money to buy flare wrenchs, and
 it worked for me ever since.  Use an adjustable wrench.  You heard it,
 an adjustable wrench.  Use one that has nice straight and tight jaws.
 Slide the wrench on the fitting until it is contacting the root of the
 adjustable wrench jaws.  The tip of the jaws will flex away.  With one
 hand holding the wrench, tighten the adjustment screw on the wrench
 until it is tight, but don't turn the wrench yet.  Wiggle the wrench
 back and forth while contiuing to tighten the screw until you feel it
 the jaws cannot come in on the fitting anymore.  Be patient, and keep
 wiggling the wrench and tightening the screw.  The wrench will almost
 feel like it has become one with the fitting.  Oh yeah, spray some
 graphite lube on the fitting beforehand.  Liquid Wrench never worked for
 me.  When the wrench is very tight, turn and loosen the fitting.  I
 never used a flare wrench before, so I don't know how easy it is.  But
 using an adjustable wrench, I had been able to loosen even some rounded
 fittings off of a Volvo.
 Ben Lee
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:11:42 -0800
 From: "Bob Carr"  Subject: RE: Alternator> OK, I've seen some pretty strange words on this list -- but "groinking"??> What the heck is that?
 It's when it's too tight and when you try to wrench it off it gets messed up.
 It's nuclear term...
 Laters,
 Bob
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:22:25 -0800
 From: "Allen Jensen"  Subject: Santiago Canyon article in OC Register
 I have uploaded the article from today's Orange County Register newspaper
 about the closing of Santiago Canyon.  The full text of the article can be
 seen at http://members.home.com/aj7/article.htm
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 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:50:42 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: ALCAN SPRINGS
 Yes the more arched one is now on the driverside. I just blindly
 followed the instructions when putting them on the first time.> Did you finally use the one with more arch on the driver's side? Since> the passenger's pirch is higher, you normally put the one with less arch> on that side.
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 Off-Road.Com Toyota section editor, Album page editor
 Marlin case #103, 33" tires, All Pro Solid axle conversion
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:39:24 -0800
 From: "J.R. Juiliano"  Subject: The tranny thing, solved?  No...
 Well, I put in the seat bushing, as was suggested.  And it didn't work.
 However, I did notice a thing or two after I installed it.  If your
 shifting is a little sloppy, then get this bushing replaced.  I opened up
 the shifter and found a bunch of junk that LOOKED like grease, but was
 actually pieces of rubber that had been shorn off (like Jim had mentioned).
 Like I said, in my case it still pops out of gears, but the rest of the
 tranny shifts a helluva lot smoother.  I highly recommend you go and spend
 the $20 on the bushing and the little know at the end of the shifter to
 make it feel better!
 It was shifting so smoothly that I actually drag raced a little "Rice-boy"
 up a hill in Oceanside (north of San Diego, for those of you that don't
 know).  I think I pulled him in third gear on the hill.  Funny that I did
 that with stock 4.10 and 31's with only a K&N and a Downey header...  If it
 wasn't for the K&N, I wouldn't have been able to hear my own engine!
 (sorry, that was my reference to the "Rice-Boy" page post earlier).
 Anyway, back to the point.  Looks like I'm going to have to take the tranny
 into a shop and have them check it out (unless there's another solution out
 there?)  Roger Brown sent that e-mail telling me about his "horror story"
 with the repair, so I know what to look out for now.
 Thanks!
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 - -J.R. Juiliano-
 - -E-mail to:  JRSMAIL@Worldnet.att.net-
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:49:54 -0800
 From: "jskaggs"  Subject: Hollister Hoopla?
 Did anyone on the list get to attend the meeting in Hollister?  If so, what
 happened?  Did the others get the land or did we get to keep it?
 I hope someone from that area was able to attend.
 John Skaggs
 Member of TLCA# 5560, High Sierra Toyota's, Toys 4 Fun and Blue Ribbon
 Coalition
 thunder90@msn.com
 Visalia, CA
 85 4Runner  Marlin Crawler Double T-Case #232, Marlin Crawler 4.70 gears
 #267
 5" Alcan's, 33" Big-O M/T's, 5.29's and Blue Hoses in the Diff's.  WOOHOO
 Finally!!
 But still not finished ;-)
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:28:36 -0800
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: Re: The tranny thing, solved?  No...
 This has nothing to do with this list, but my girlfriend has a Turbo'd
 Eclipse...  it's soooo fun to drive after driving my 22RE'd Toyota with
 4.88's and 34's.  It's doing 70 by the time I get out of 2nd gear.  My Toy
 barely does that after 4th!  Just have to keep an eye on the rear view
 mirror and an ear on the radar detector.  : )
 - -The evil Ken
 - -----Original Message-----
 Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:45 PM
 Subject: The tranny thing, solved? No...>It was shifting so smoothly that I actually drag raced a little "Rice-boy">up a hill in Oceanside (north of San Diego, for those of you that don't>know).  I think I pulled him in third gear on the hill.  Funny that I did>that with stock 4.10 and 31's with only a K&N and a Downey header...  If it>wasn't for the K&N, I wouldn't have been able to hear my own engine!>(sorry, that was my reference to the "Rice-Boy" page post earlier).>>Anyway, back to the point.  Looks like I'm going to have to take the tranny>into a shop and have them check it out (unless there's another solution out>there?)  Roger Brown sent that e-mail telling me about his "horror story">with the repair, so I know what to look out for now.>>Thanks!>>=======================================================>-J.R. Juiliano->-E-mail to:  JRSMAIL@Worldnet.att.net->=======================================================>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:27:48 -0800
 From: "Sandy and Terry"  Subject: Re: Hollister Hoopla?>Did anyone on the list get to attend the meeting in Hollister?  If so, what>happened?  Did the others get the land or did we get to keep it?> I hope someone from that area was able to attend.>>John Skaggs
 I didn't go but I read a report that I rec'd I think from a club member.  I
 looked but I must have deleted it already.  Here is what I remember from the
 posting.  Anyone feel free to correct any errors.
 The state had started an environmental impact study several years ago.  The
 study was put on hold when the state was negotiating with another land owner
 regarding an additional purchase.  The thinking was that a study could be
 done on both pieces of land at the same time.  Well the state and the land
 owner never did come to terms.  This had been going on for some time.  It
 sounds like now it is back to square one where another study is needed.
 This can take a few more years yet.
 Several clubs were present including Espirit de 4.  Some neighbors were also
 present.  One of the subjects was establishing "buffer" zones to reduce
 noise and such near adjacent private land.  It seems owners were not against
 the project since most already live near the existing park.   It's the
 environmentalist who is against the project.  Until the new study is
 completed, everything will be on hold.
 Terry Johnson
 '89 XCab V6 SR5
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:31:28 -0800
 From: "Sandy and Terry"  Subject: Pic of the Month
 Whose 4Runner is Feb's Pic of the Month?
 http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota/feb99.jpg
 I think it would be interesting to have a bio of each truck as well.
 Terry Johnson
 '89 XCab V6 SR5
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 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:46:04 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: Pic of the Month
 Sandy and Terry wrote:>> Whose 4Runner is Feb's Pic of the Month?> http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota/feb99.jpg
 John Skagg's???>> I think it would be interesting to have a bio of each truck as well.
 Good point. We'll consider this. Thanks Terry.
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 Jim Brink, Manhattan Beach, CA                   toytech@off-road.com
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician      http://www.off-road.com/~toytech/
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 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:46:21 -0800
 From: "Sandy and Terry"  Subject: Re: Pic of the Month>Sandy and Terry wrote:>>>> Whose 4Runner is Feb's Pic of the Month?>> http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota/feb99.jpg
 Jim Brink wrote:>John Skagg's???
 Nope, John is a straight axle and doesn't run A/T's.  Looks like a Pro Comp
 lift too.
 Terry Johnson
 '89 XCab V6 SR5
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:50:05 +1000
 From: "ChrisS"  Subject: Poly bushings install
 I finally got around to installing poly bushings on my truck's leaf springs
 last weekend and want to share a few random thoughts.
 Back when I bought Downey's heavy duty shackles and Energy Suspension poly
 bushings to match, I gave up on the bushings. The old rubber ones were more
 than a little stubborn. So at the time I turned to this list and got some good
 suggestions, as usual. I guess enough time passed by for my subconscious to
 work the problem out and I dug in the other day. I ended up utilizing the "cold
 chisel as wedge in the spring eye" trick mainly because I didn't want to take
 my chances with a torch, hole saw or drill bit.
 You know, after you get your truck up on stands, and tires, etc. out of the
 way, the routine gets, well, routine after a while. Most of the work involved
 is in your head, isn't it? So I disconnected the shackles and made a feeble
 attempt at a long bolt coupled with a big socket to press the bushing out - no
 go. I didn't have a lot of confidence in that scheme anyhow, and didn't hear
 one word of support to boot.
 Here's what I did. I ended up driving a cold chisel in the spring eye, at a
 right angle to the spring itself. Perpendicular to the truck. Then I took a BFH
 and another cold chisel, this one was pretty long, and simply drove the bushing
 out. The bushing is an inner steel sleeve surrounded by a rubber bushing, which
 is again surrounded by a large steel sleeve. The whole apparatus must is
 pressed into the eye. I was able to drive the chisel on the outer sleeve,
 hitting around and around until it evenually came out. What helped halfway
 through is changing the wedge to the other (inside) side of the spring. I
 didn't find a lot of rust. That outer sleeve is just a tight fit in the eye. At
 times I used a large socket as a drift as well.
 The bushings came with a little pack of silicone grease, which I used to lube
 every plastic-to-metal contact. I wish I had some of this when I did my FJ-40
 years ago. Those bushings squeaked right away and for the longest time I
 suspected the Monroe gas shocks - I realize now that wasn't the case. On
 re-tightening I got the nuts/bolts just tight. I didn't want to pinch the
 brackets by over-torqueing. Anyhow the Downey kit provides some nice grade 8
 bolts and the nuts have nylon inserts so I'll just check on 'em once in a
 while. Those shackles gotta swing, you know.
 One little surprise was on the passenger side - the fuel tank is right where
 you want to use your socket for the front spring eye. This is where a 19mm
 box/open end wrench comes in handy. Also, here's an afterthought: Getting the
 front spring eye lined up with the bracket front-to-rear (not up-and-down) was
 a real pain. Next time I do this job I plan to leave the rear shackle
 disconnected until I connect the front spring eye. For one spring I ended up
 using the bottle jack between the shackle and bumper to push the spring
 assembly forward enough to get the front bolt in.
 Sure am glad I decided to get physical with it. Now the ride is noticably
 improved, and the rear is much more snug to go with the sway bar bushings I
 installed a couple weekends ago. Nice!
 Many thanks to all the listers who provided input. It sure is great to be able
 consult with similar minds.
 Chris Senungetuk / icq#12146009 / chriss@kuentos.guam.net
 Best Toyota list technical term: "Bumperfoil." I like that one.
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 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:07:37 -0800
 From: Alan Wakeman  Subject: Alternator's
 Hi All, Does anyone know what amperage the alternator in a 90 4runner v6
 puts out? Also does Toyota offer any other higher output alternators? How
 is the quality of alternators from places that require you to trade in your
 old one for an after market style one? There is lots of questions here I
 know but any info is appreciated.
 Al
<<>> awakeman@kaien.com
 http://www.rapidnet.bc.ca/~awakeman/index.htm
 Sun Chaser Charters
 http://www.citytel.net/sunchaser/
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 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:40:11 -0600
 From: James A Carroll  Subject: bio
 Name: James A. Carroll
 City & State: Gulf Breeze, FL
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: JamesACarroll@worldnet.att.net
 Toyota (s) year & model: 86' 4Runner
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): no
 Age: 35
 Occupation: Merchant Marine
 Marital Status: Single
 Hobbies: sailing, boat building, fixing things that ain't broke, fishing
 and reading
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: just happened
 upon offroad.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:basically stock 4runner,
 just fixing little things now, but I'll be putting new torsion bars and
 springs on this week.
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 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:43:45 -0800
 From: i043866  Subject: 32 inch wheels on a 1990 4Runner
 So I'm thinking of putting 32x11.5x15 tires on my 1990 4Runner.  Most of
 the "tables" show that it will fit no problem without a lift  (I have
 the 1.5 inch longer Downey Coil springs in the rear).  I've also heard
 from many people that it WILL rub when bottoming out hard.  If I lift
 another 1.5 inches in back and 1.0 inches in front (torsion bars) will I
 over come any rubbing problems?
 Thanks,
 Taj Hudson in Santa Barbara, Kalifornia
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 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:55:17 -0800
 From: i043866  Subject: Blown rear brake cylinder
 Well, I'm about to repair my second item on my new 1984 4Runner (1st was
 alternator).  I blew a rear brake cylinder.  Took off the wheel and drum
 and there is brake fluid everywhere.   I just put new brake shoes in it
 3 weeks ago.  A friend told me that it is very common to blow a brake
 cylinder shortly after you replace the brake shoes.  What's the deal?
 Is this true?
 So here's what I figure I need to do:
 1. Clean brake fluid off of everything
 2. Replace brake cylinder
 3. Replace brake shoes
 4. Resurface drum
 5. Bleed brakes
 6. ???
 Any tips or advice from those that have had this problem?  Anybody
 wanna buy a 1984 4Runner with a new alternator and soon to be new
 brakes?  I have had to replace more stuff on this 1984 4Runner  in 2
 months due to "break downs" than on my 1990 in over 3 years.  I guess
 it's all part of the learning experience.  I'd rather spend my time and
 money on modifications than fixes.
 Taj Hudson in Santa Barbara, Kalifornia
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:14:19 -0800
 From: "Alex Ma"  Subject: Re: Q for Jim Brink (not 4x4, but toyota)
 Another possibility is that, if we're talking about the newer Gen. Corollas,
 they have
 a new trim line designated as the "VE" model...But what I've noticed is that
 from
 afar...the "VE" can REALLY, and I MEAN REALLY look like a "V6"!
 Hmmmm, a Toyota marketing stratagy.....perhaps...but it could also just be a
 coincidence.
 I do agree though with the rebadging craze....and it too gets to me
 sometimes.
 "Corolla VE
 It's our most affordable Corolla, yet everywhere you look, you'll see our
 commitment to quality.
 Features include power steering, power-assisted brakes, Deluxe AM/FM..."
 Alex>> The other day a Toyota Corolla passed me on the road and I could swear I>> saw a V6 emblem on the back.  Is there any truth to this, or am I>> mistaken.  If the Corolla can be had with a V6, it may be time to trade>> the wife's car in.>>> Probably just a Rice Boy.  They even put V-Tec stickers on "other than> Honda" cars.  Conventional Wisdom thinks that they beleive they get more> HP from stickers.  If anyone curious what they actually do check out the> Rice Boy page at http://riceboypage.com .  Some of those guys are real> idiots.> ============================================================================
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 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:12:18 -0800
 From: "Kenneth H. Fong"  Subject: Re: 32 inch wheels on a 1990 4Runner
 With 32x11.5's on stock sr5 wheels with 4.5" backspacing, there will be
 minor fender and sway bar rubbing.  On my aftermarket set of wheels and
 tires, 4" backspacing and 32x12.5's, there is only minor fender
 rubbing.  There's no rubbing in the rear with either set.  I have low
 profile bumpstops and Sway Away torsion bars up front.  In the rear are
 Downey coils.  Basically have to pound in the front fender seam just a
 little.
 i043866 wrote:>> So I'm thinking of putting 32x11.5x15 tires on my 1990 4Runner.  Most of> the "tables" show that it will fit no problem without a lift  (I have> the 1.5 inch longer Downey Coil springs in the rear).  I've also heard> from many people that it WILL rub when bottoming out hard.  If I lift> another 1.5 inches in back and 1.0 inches in front (torsion bars) will I> over come any rubbing problems?> Thanks,> Taj Hudson in Santa Barbara, Kalifornia> - --
 Kenneth H. Fong
 San Francisco State University
 http://mercury.sfsu.edu/~stealth
 415-605-7276
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 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:28:51 EST
 From: "james stevenson"  Subject: Lost Emails
 My email got blown away by Hotmail today, including those I had not read
 yet and had stored away. I know I had a heap from people on the list
 wanting pics, diagrams and the like. If anyone was waiting for me to
 send somthing can you plese let me know off the list so I can send them
 along.
 James Stevenson (TonkaTuf)
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 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:50:27 -0500
 From: "Benjamin R. MacRAE"  Subject: Back on the List
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name:   Benjamin MacRAE
 City & State:   Marquette, MI (school);  Frankfort, MI (home)
 Country: USA
 E-mail address:   bmacrae@nmu.edu
 Toyota (s) year & model:  1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 4wd.
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): No
 Age:  22
 Occupation:  Student, Management Major
 Marital Status:  Single
 Hobbies:  Ham radio, Trucks, Jet-Skiing, Water-Skiing, and Sailing.
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:  Was previously on
 the list this Fall.  Had to get off it because my computer was down for a
 month...
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 Well, a little has changed since I was on the list this Fall.  I was
 considering purchasing a new Tacoma, but have decided to buy my dad's T-100
 instead. It is a 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 4wd, Extended Cab, 3.4 Liter,
 Automatic.  It has every factory option except for ABS.  Toyota accessories
 installed by the dealer include black running boards, bug deflector,
 bedliner, and tonneau cover, as well as the Toyota single disc CD player
 unit below the stereo.  It is flame red with grey cloth interior.  Truck is
 mint and has under 4,000 miles on it.
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:40:21 -0600 (CST)
 From: Brian Wiencek  Subject: Re: Four Wheeler TV tonight!> Just a late reminder. Four wheeler TV is on ESPN2 tonight at 6:30pm.
 Darn it - Missed it... I got a DSS dish for christmas and can never find
 anything good to watch....  Have to keep an eye out for that one again.
 - - Brian
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:01:36 -0600 (CST)
 From: Brian Wiencek  Subject: Re: Blown rear brake cylinder> So here's what I figure I need to do:> 1. Clean brake fluid off of everything> 2. Replace brake cylinder> 3. Replace brake shoes> 4. Resurface drum> 5. Bleed brakes>  Any tips or advice from those that have had this problem?
 Well definately #1 & 2 need to be done - since you said that the brake
 shoes were just done weeks? ago #3 only if they became soaked with brake
 fluid - otherwise if they're a bit wet, brake cleaner will clean tehm
 right up.  Also #4 shouldn't need to be done - simply clean the drum real
 good with brake cleaner.> Anybody> wanna buy a 1984 4Runner with a new alternator and soon to be new> brakes?
 Sure - let me know how little $$$ ;-)
 - - Brian
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:06:47 -0700 (MST)
 From: Scott Ellinger  Subject: Re: attn Scott E> hey i was in Ft collins today...and i remebered you had mentioned> something about wanting a 6x6 as a tow rig...have you seen the camo one> on north college(within a couple of blocks of ft collins 4x4)? i was in> a big truck, so i couldn't get off to check it out, but it might be> worth a look...> Yeah, that's at JAX Surplus, up north of town.  They've got 'em, and
 pretty regularly, but they're sure proud of 'em--$5k as-is, and you
 have to have an air-brake Class B CDL to drive one.  And if you want
 to tow one with another... Class A.
 I've seen a CJ-8 (Scrambler) 6x6, and heard about a CJ-6 done that
 way... with all the Toys out there, has anyone ever done a Toy 6x6
 (or maybe some factory offering in a smallish delivery-type truck?)
 before?  There's gotta be something out there to drool over... :)
 - -scott
 Scott Ellinger   ellinger@holly.colostate.edu   Larimer County 4WD Club
 Visit my Home Page: http://holly.colostate.edu/~ellinger
 '86 Toy pickup body, Ford 5.0, GMC NV4500, "slightly altered" RKSTMPR
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:36:58 -0500
 From: mrodg@juno.com
 Subject: Re: Suggestion on Subject>How about when you are sending a post that is a question, you put a (?)
 at>the end of your subject. It sure is a REAL DRAG to see a subject on>something of interest, only to discover that the person who sent the
 post is>asking a question, instead of offering a cure.
 only one problem, when the message is replied to, the question mark will
 still be there.
 Mike Rodgers    MRodg@Juno.com
 1988 4Runner     2.25" SS Exhaust
 1.5" Downey Shackles
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:34:40 -0500
 From: mrodg@juno.com
 Subject: Re: Four Wheeler TV tonight!>On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Karl D. Bellve, Ph.D. wrote:>>>>>>> Just a late reminder. Four wheeler TV is on ESPN2 tonight at 6:30pm.>>>>Well, no Four Wheeler TV. My DSS system menu lied to me and showed short>track truck racing. Which was still cool to watch.
 FYI, I have a list of dates for 4Wheeler TV that came with my
 subscription renewal.
 Feb 23, March 9, April 13 & 27, June 1, July 6, Aug 3 & 31, Oct 5 & 26,
 Nov 16,
 and Dec 7 & 28.
 Mike
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:48:34 -0800
 From: Paul Tom  Subject: backspacing
 Does anyone know if the factory Tacoma alloys will fit backspacing wise
 on a '93 pickup?  Thanks in advance!
 Paul Tom
 '93 xtra cab
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:26:22 -0500
 From: "Cullen, John P"  Subject: RE: Four Wheeler TV
 Karl,
 Don't know about you but Winter series pro-lites were on at 6:30 ESPN2
 yesterday.
 John Cullen
 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:41:40 -0500 (EST)
 From: "Karl D. Bellve, Ph.D."  Subject: Four Wheeler TV tonight!
 Just a late reminder. Four wheeler TV is on ESPN2 tonight at 6:30pm.
 Cheers,
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 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 11:58:35 -0500
 From: responses@wn.net
 Subject: re: engine swap question  #2
 I posted a questions a couple of days ago about my 93 22RE rebuilt engine
 in my 86 4Runner.  (Thanks to Andrew Zook for his reply)
 So I guess my next question is:  Should I swap out the distributer that I
 currently have in there from the old 86 engine, and put in a 1993
 distributer????
 Does anyone know any performance characteristics that might change with
 switching to the 93 distributer?
 TIA
 Trey~
 (off list mailing address: wheels@wn.net)
 ~~~~~
 86 4Runner, (1993-22RE engine)
 15x7 ARE rims
 30x9.50 BFG AT's (soon going BIG!)
 Cross-drilled rotors,
 K&N Filter replacement,
 just rebuilt rear axle,
 Pioneer CD, Amp, MTX Speakers
 ETC....
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 Date: 2 Feb 99 10:53:08 MST
 From: nick.thomson@usa.net
 Subject: Selling a BEAUTIFUL FJ40!!!
 I'm sorry to see it go, but I need more money for school.  I'm selling a
 BEAUTIFUL 1967 FJ40, with a brand new paint job and it runs greats.
 Everything is stock and runs strong, if interested write me back at
 nick.thomson@usa.net
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:27:12 -0800
 From: "jskaggs"  Subject: Wheeling this weekend
 Anyone in Ca. going wheeling this weekend?  Hollister? Gorman? Pismo? Red
 Rock?
 Some place fairly close to Fresno/Bakersfield?  I want to go wheeling this
 weekend and I am looking for ideas.  I don't really want to go to the snow
 but I will if I have to.
 Let me know if you've got plans and don't mind if I tag along, or if someone
 wants to make plans with me let me know.
 John Skaggs
 Member of TLCA# 5560, High Sierra Toyota's, Toys 4 Fun and Blue Ribbon
 Coalition
 thunder90@msn.com
 Visalia, CA
 85 4Runner  Marlin Crawler Double T-Case #232, Marlin Crawler 4.70 gears
 #267
 5" Alcan's, 33" Big-O M/T's, 5.29's and Blue Hoses in the Diff's.  WOOHOO
 Finally!!
 But still not finished ;-)
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:36:45 -0500
 From: smithjn@us.ibm.com
 Subject: Re: Selling a BEAUTIFUL FJ40!!!
 Where is it and how much???
 I'm sorry to see it go, but I need more money for school.  I'm selling a
 BEAUTIFUL 1967 FJ40, with a brand new paint job and it runs greats.
 Everything is stock and runs strong, if interested write me back at
 nick.thomson@usa.net
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 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:39:04 -0700
 From: "Alan A. Tabaracci"  Subject: Bio
 Name: Alan A. Tabaracci
 City & State: Black Eagle, MT
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: aatab@benefis.org
 Toyota (s) year & model: 1999 Tacoma SR5 xtended cab 4x4
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): n
 Age: 26
 Occupation: I.S Specialist / Programmer
 Marital Status: Single
 Hobbies: 4x4's, cars, computers, robotics
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: off-road.com's site
 while doing searches for toyota stuff
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: The truck is a extended cab, V6 ,
 loaded with ABS, Power Windows, single CD player, and the TRD Off-Road package
 (the locking rear diff is great). I'm going to be ordering the TRD supercharger
 next week. TRD's headers are also on the wish list when they become availiable.
 So far I love the truck, no complaints at all. I've had it in the mountains a
 couple of times already and it's great.
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