Toyota 4x4 digest:      Monday, November 9 1998      Volume 02 : Number 175
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 Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V2 #174
 body lift
 bed sides and axle shop in UT
 Tacoma Pro Comp Lift Follow UP!!!
 RE: 22R - 22RE for $50
 RE: Cheap auto body parts
 Birfield Question
 Re: Birfield Question
 Re: tps questions(long and confusing )
 Faulty Differential Breather???
 Re: Tacoma Pro Comp Lift Follow UP!!!
 Re:  body lift
 Re: 33x9.50 bfg mt
 Re: body lift
 Subject: 4WheelerTV
 Dick Cepek in Pasadena
 Re: Cheap auto body parts
 Re: 4WheelerTV
 Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V2 #174
 Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V2 #174
 NV4500 and stuff
 Re: NV4500 and stuff
 Re: tires
 4x4 not engaging
 Re: 4x4 not engaging
 Re: Subject: 4WheelerTV
 superlift
 Re; Tires
 Idle on 92 v6 sr5 ltd
 Re: superlift
 Re: MSD Ignition
 bio
 Re: bio
 Re:  bio
 Re: body lift
 Re: Hollister Hills - Nov 27
 courtesy lights
 Re: supercharger
 Re: Crutchfield
 Still Learning...
 Re: Still Learning...
 RE: LC Timing Chain
 re: 22r to 22RE for $50
 Cam Timing
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 05:17:33 -0700 (MST)
 From: Buter Gregory A  Subject: Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V2 #174
 is it possible to get used third members( trying to find a cheaper way to
 do a gear change) with 4.56 or 4.88 in them at a junk yard: or does anyone
 have any used gears, third members.  do i have a chance, or should i save
 my cash and do it next year?
 thanx
 greg
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 05:20:50 -0700 (MST)
 From: Buter Gregory A  Subject: body lift
 i want a 1 inch body lift.  should i buy a 2incher and chop it.  **if so
 id buy it from whoever is selling it******  or is there a better way.
 i saw someone mentioning using poly bodymounts plus stock mounts, is this
 a good idea?
 all help is appreciated.
 thanx__> greg
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 06:17:26 -0700
 From: Allan Davis  Subject: bed sides and axle shop in UT
 Is there anyplace to buy bedsides for an '83 pickup or am I going to
 have to buy an entire fiberglass bed?
 Also, can anyone recommend a shop in the Salt Lake City area to replace
 my r&p gears and install a Detroit in the rear end?
 Thanks for any help,
 Allan
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 09:11:14 -0600
 From: jorrand@edge.net (J Orrand)
 Subject: Tacoma Pro Comp Lift Follow UP!!!
 I took my 1997 Tacoma V6 out this weekend and tested the off road
 capabilities of the Pro Comp 4" lift and Rancho RS5000 shocks.  I was
 VERY impressed.  I took it through some creek beds and over some pretty
 steep banks.  It just walked over them gracefully without a spin of a
 tire.  The 33X12.50 BFG MTs are just a hair louder on the highway than
 my stock tires were.  Articulation didn't improve much, but I am going
 to add low profile bump stops and will get a couple more inches.  I
 don't take my truck anywhere it would get torn up so it will do great
 for me.  There is only a very slight notice in power loss with the 3.4L
 V6.  Before the lift and 33s were added I could run up to about 105MPH
 in 5th gear before the speed limiter would kick in.  Now, top speed in
 5th gear is about 93MPH.  Not bad considering the meats it's turning.
 Besides, it's not a race car it's a 4x4.
 I will have pics on the web page this afternoon if anyone wants to check
 it out!
 Address is below.
 - -J
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 jorrand@edge.net
 www.geocities.com/baja/canyon/2437/
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:44:54 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: 22R - 22RE for $50
 Andrew:
 I don't know if this is useful or not, but I know that it's relatively easy
 to convert a 22R head to accept fuel injection. Apparently the heads are the
 same. I bought a carb'ed 22R to replace the 22RE that was using oil in my
 '85 4Runner. The shop that did the swap said it was no trouble to use my
 existing manifold. So, you shouldn't need the head from the Celica.
 - -KLF> I don't think that I need the entire head, does anyone know?> Can I keep my current cam?> I am pretty sure that my throttle cable will not work...will the Celica> cable work?> I will probably need to get a truck air box since the celica one is> different.
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:44:52 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: Cheap auto body parts
 Dan:
 I see your points. I bow to your expertise, as I'm not a mechanic or a
 bodyshop person. I was just going with what I was told by more than one
 shop, and my insurance company.
 When I bought my '85 4Runner in 1989, it had just over 100K on it, and the
 paint was shot. The front edge of the hood was rusted out, as were the edges
 of both front fenders. The previous owner had actually mounted a hood
 ornament from an old Lincoln Town Car on the hood, it looked ridiculous. The
 next summer I decided to have it repainted by a reputable restoration shop.
 The owner told me to buy only Toyota parts for the hood and fenders, which I
 did. I bought them, not him, so it wasn't like he was making any $$$ on the
 advice.
 6 years later I was told the same thing, but by a different shop AND my
 insurance company. Since then, a friend of mine that works for a bodyshop
 told me the same thing (he also drives only Toyota trucks).
 2 years ago, the alternator died in my wife's '88 Camry. It was a Saturday
 afternoon, and I was fixing it on the side of the road, so I was at the
 mercy of what was available at the local NAPA store. It's an easy swap, but
 it took 3 alternators to finally get one that fit. I checked later, had I
 bought one from the local Toyota dealer, it would have cost $5 more (on a
 $185 alternator).
 And don't get me started on Sears/Midas/Meineke vs. Toyota exhaust
 systems...
 I've learned my lesson.
 - -KLF
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 09:46:27 -0700
 From: David Fritzsche  Subject: Birfield Question
 I have a partner who has broken two Birfield joints. Both on the short
 side (passenger side) His truck turns tighter one way then it does the
 other (his steering needs to be centered). Both times they broke he was
 not doing any thing really hard. Could it be that his steering is going
 to far and causing the breakage? ( I will soon learn the in's and out's
 of the Toyota solid axle, I have one laying on the floor of my shop
 waiting to be rebuilt and hung under my 90).
 David Fritzsche-1990 V-6 Ex-Cab
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:17:36 -0800
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: Birfield Question
 I have not figured out the birfield dilemma, sometimes it is loose wheel
 bearings, sometimes turning and backing up, sometimes it is??  Either way if
 I broke that many I'd get a marfield..
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: David Fritzsche  To:  Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 9:52 AM
 Subject: Birfield Question>I have a partner who has broken two Birfield joints. Both on the short>side (passenger side) His truck turns tighter one way then it does the>other (his steering needs to be centered). Both times they broke he was>not doing any thing really hard. Could it be that his steering is going>to far and causing the breakage? ( I will soon learn the in's and out's>of the Toyota solid axle, I have one laying on the floor of my shop>waiting to be rebuilt and hung under my 90).>>David Fritzsche-1990 V-6 Ex-Cab>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:08:27 -0800
 From: Scott Muir  Subject: Re: tps questions(long and confusing )
 Tim Brewers wrote:>> I have a few questions about my tps.  First my truck is running quite bad> and is idling irratically(sp?)   I tested my tps and it wasn't in speck and> so I went to my dealer and ordered a new one.  It came and was not the right> one.  I brought it back and the parts guy ran my vin number again and came> up with the same one he sold me.  I then checked the part number on the> original (or maybe not) one and it was a different part number than he came> up with.  He said that the one that is on my truck was made from like 5/88> to something like 3/89 my truck was produced 6/89 so I should have the one> he ordered me but I don't?????    He said that maybe the whole throttle body> was replaced at some time.  Any ideas why someone would change a throttle> body?
 I have encountered this.  I researched part numbers for my 85 22re.  Since 85, there
 have been 2 changes in the part number.  Its the same unit though.
 (according to my parts guy)
 S.
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:49:13 +0000
 From: "shaun"  Subject: Faulty Differential Breather???
 Today I hit the maintanence interval for draining and refilling my
 front diff and an unusual thing happened...as I loosened the fill
 plug ( I always do that first just so that I am sure I can refill
 once I drain ) I heard a soft hissing sound like air was either
 getting sucked into the diff or pushed out of the diff.  Does this
 mean that my breather is bad on that diff or is this normal?
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:29:20 -0800
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: Re: Tacoma Pro Comp Lift Follow UP!!!
 Speed Limiter???  What's that all about?  and can it be disabled?
 - -----Original Message-----
 I could run up to about 105MPH>in 5th gear before the speed limiter would kick in.
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:27:46 -0800
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: Re:  body lift
 You can also have a machine shop make you 1" Aluminum or steel blocks.  I
 don't know what it would cost though.  I have a friend who makes them for
 the guys in c4wheelers.
 Ken
 - -----Original Message----->i want a 1 inch body lift.  should i buy a 2incher and chop it.  **if so>id buy it from whoever is selling it******  or is there a better way.>i saw someone mentioning using poly bodymounts plus stock mounts, is this>a good idea?
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:02:12 -0800
 From: Hollis Ferris  Subject: Re: 33x9.50 bfg mt
 Buter Gregory A wrote:>> Does anyone run 33x9.5 bfg mt tires on their 4runners?  i am thinking of> doing it.  i know they wont look as cool, but they will function well,> they will be light, and they will hopefully slip before anything breaks.> i think it will help me pick thinner lines too.  any ideas will be great.> how much lift over stock, will i need to clear them? does bfg make them in> 10.5?> thanx alot__>> greg
 Im pretty sure that Roger Brown runs these things, They are supposed to
 be really good in the mud!  Roger???>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:17:03 -0800
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: body lift
 Capital Jeepers here in sacramento sells individual blocks as well but for
 the money I'd save some time and just go with the 2" kit myself..
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Kenneth Sigel  To:  Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: body lift>You can also have a machine shop make you 1" Aluminum or steel blocks.  I>don't know what it would cost though.  I have a friend who makes them for>the guys in c4wheelers.>>Ken>-----Original Message----->>>>i want a 1 inch body lift.  should i buy a 2incher and chop it.  **if so>>id buy it from whoever is selling it******  or is there a better way.>>i saw someone mentioning using poly bodymounts plus stock mounts, is this>>a good idea?>>>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 15:27:36 -0800
 From: Leo Castaneda  Subject: Subject: 4WheelerTV>> Hey y'all,>> Just a reminder that 4WheelerTV will be on Monday 3.30 p.m. PST and> 6.30> p.m. EST.>> What channel?
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 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 15:31:04 -0800
 From: Leo Castaneda  Subject: Dick Cepek in Pasadena
 FYI
 Dick Cepek is having a closing out sale at the Pasadena store (Sierra
 Madre Blvd/Colorado Blvd). It says on the window they lost they're lease
 till Oct 1998. Last Tuesday when I drove by they were still open.
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 12:22:54 -0800
 From: Dan Boucher  Subject: Re: Cheap auto body parts
 The previous owner had actually mounted a hood> ornament from an old Lincoln Town Car on the hood, it looked ridiculous.
 Then I take it you didn't keep the hood ornament?  :)
 Aftermarket parts just get a bad rap which most don't deserve.  That was
 my point.
 Later
 Dan
 84 Excab 6"  33" BFG MT new winch mount  Tensen TX2 soon to be rebuilt
 blahblahblah
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 16:45:34 -0800
 From: "Moomba Performance Xross-Training, Los Angeles CA"  Subject: Re: 4WheelerTV
 Hey y'all,
 Since I've already had 2 people e-mail me about 4WheelerTV asking me
 which channel it'll be on, I'll just let everyone know that it'll be on
 ESPN2.
 S.
 Shawn Ooi    moomba@worldnet.att.net    (213) 960 7631
 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5    192K    Rear EZ-Lockers    4.56 gears
 Eibach 2" lift    2" body-lift    RS9000s    32" Bridgestone M/Ts
 http://homepages.infoseek.com/~welldonesr5/index.html
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:05:55 -0500 (EST)
 From: Bradley J Ballintine  Subject: Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V2 #174
 Does anyone have a cap 4-sale.  I have a 1993 toyota pick-up.
 Thank you
 Brad Ballintine
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:05:55 -0500 (EST)
 From: Bradley J Ballintine  Subject: Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V2 #174
 Does anyone have a cap 4-sale.  I have a 1993 toyota pick-up.
 Thank you
 Brad Ballintine
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 18:10:11 -0700
 From: Tony Bartlett  Subject: NV4500 and stuff
 Well, I have decided to put the NV4500 behind my 4cyl for now.  After
 removing the carpet to get a better view of clearances it looks like it
 will fit after cutting out the tranny tunnel.
 I will be ordering adapters tomorrow and installing it next weekend,
 hopefully.
 The gear ratio's look good. using the 2nd gear in the nv4500 is a little
 higher than stock first
 stock 3.9 to nv4500 2nd at 3.31
 nv's 3rd gear is between stock 2nd and 3rd that should work good.
 remember I have 5.29 gears.
 The big thing that might not work is overdrive.  stock overdrive is 15%
 nv is 27%.  Hopefully I will be able to use it.  If not that will
 incourage me to get my 4.3 ready as soon as I can.
 Also with the NV and dual cases my low will be 174:1.  Not quite as low
 as a dual case with 4.7 gears in one of them.  Installing the NV saves
 me from buying the gears (it ends up about the same price).
 Broke another motor mount also (left) I think it only lasted a year,
 will have to try the poly ones from NWOR.
 Will have pictures on my page after the NV install.
 complete unit is approx 1" longer than stock.  Should not have to do
 anything with driveshafts yet, I need a new front one anyways with more
 spline travel.
 Thats all for now.
 Toyota Tony
 http://www.digitalpla.net/~offroader
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:38:18 -0800
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: NV4500 and stuff
 So you have an adapter to the tranny and another to the tcase, right?  This
 is an interesting idea, can't wait for more info.  Where did you get the
 tranny out of?
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Tony Bartlett  To: Toy4x4  Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 5:17 PM
 Subject: NV4500 and stuff>Well, I have decided to put the NV4500 behind my 4cyl for now.  After>removing the carpet to get a better view of clearances it looks like it>will fit after cutting out the tranny tunnel.>I will be ordering adapters tomorrow and installing it next weekend,>hopefully.>The gear ratio's look good. using the 2nd gear in the nv4500 is a little>higher than stock first>stock 3.9 to nv4500 2nd at 3.31>nv's 3rd gear is between stock 2nd and 3rd that should work good.>remember I have 5.29 gears.>The big thing that might not work is overdrive.  stock overdrive is 15%>nv is 27%.  Hopefully I will be able to use it.  If not that will>incourage me to get my 4.3 ready as soon as I can.>Also with the NV and dual cases my low will be 174:1.  Not quite as low>as a dual case with 4.7 gears in one of them.  Installing the NV saves>me from buying the gears (it ends up about the same price).>>Broke another motor mount also (left) I think it only lasted a year,>will have to try the poly ones from NWOR.>>Will have pictures on my page after the NV install.>complete unit is approx 1" longer than stock.  Should not have to do>anything with driveshafts yet, I need a new front one anyways with more>spline travel.>>Thats all for now.>>Toyota Tony>http://www.digitalpla.net/~offroader>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 20:50:44 -0500
 From: "Tom Pechkovsky"  Subject: Re: tires
 Well, maybe I just have a shit 4runner but I had a set of Dunlop RV's (31x10.5) on my 92 and they were not very good for me in the snow.  Not only did they seem poor off the road but they floated like crazy on road.. I had a set of 33' BFG AT's on my 81 pickup and althought the floated bad on a snow covered road they seemed to do quite well in fresh, deep snow..
 Maybe it is the differences in the trucks that I am noticing and not the tires but... I just haven't been pleased with the dunlops.   I debating what to get next.
 Just my  $.06 CND......equals about $.02 US
 Tom Pechkovsky
 92 4runner  5spd, Rs9000's, (and new this weekend Warn Premium Hubs)
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 18:35:41 -0800
 From: Jeff Callender  Subject: 4x4 not engaging
 Today I was crossing a mtn pass in the Cascades that was dirt and then
 covered with a few inches if snow near the top. I started slipping and
 tried to put it in 4x4 and it did nothing!  Its a 93 Runner with ADD and
 a 5 speed.  I recently was rear ended and $7000 later I have it back.
 Could the wreck have caused this?  I looked underneath and saw the drive
 shaft spinning when in 4x4 but the power never gets to my front wheels.
 I almost slid off the mountain.  The interior 4x4 light would not come
 on also. Help!
 Pls reply to my email as I am in digest mode.
 Thnks,
 Jeff
 cruiser@gte.net
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 18:49:14 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: 4x4 not engaging
 Jeff Callender wrote:>> Today I was crossing a mtn pass in the Cascades that was dirt and then> covered with a few inches if snow near the top. I started slipping and> tried to put it in 4x4 and it did nothing!  Its a 93 Runner with ADD and> a 5 speed.  I recently was rear ended and $7000 later I have it back.>> Could the wreck have caused this?  I looked underneath and saw the drive> shaft spinning when in 4x4 but the power never gets to my front wheels.> I almost slid off the mountain.  The interior 4x4 light would not come> on also. Help!
 I would say off hand that the vacuum hoses to the ADD actuator are
 disconnected. In order for the 4WD light to be illuminated, the ADD
 actuator must be engaged, completing the circuit for the 4WD light. It's
 possible that if there was any work done on the front of the truck that
 these hoses could have become knocked off, or, if the hoses to the ADD
 system under the hood were disturbed during engine service, that would
 be an explanation as well.
 Check out: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota/tech/add/ for a brief
 explanation of what ADD is and how it works (usually :)
 - --
 Jim Brink, Manhattan Beach, CA                   toytech@off-road.com
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician      http://www.off-road.com/~toytech/
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 1986 Std. Bed 4WD  -   TLCA  -  Friends of the Mojave Road  -  CA4WDC
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 17:01:38 -0800
 From: Hollis Ferris  Subject: Re: Subject: 4WheelerTV
 Leo Castaneda wrote:>>>>> Hey y'all,>>>> Just a reminder that 4WheelerTV will be on Monday 3.30 p.m. PST and>> 6.30>> p.m. EST.>>>>> What channel?>  Pretty sure its ESPN2!
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:32:21 -0600
 From: michael  Subject: superlift
 Well we finally got the majority of the 4.5" lift on my 85 4runner,  it
 bounces all over the place without shocks.....who would of thought?  I have
 to take some measurements for the shocks, I'm probably going to go with
 Doestch Tech's.  I've had very good luck eith them in the past.  The
 suspension rides and articulates 100% better than stock....even w/o shocks.
 Still need to get the front end aligned and more than likely I will get the
 Rancho adjustable torque rod.  Just an added note.  Superlift makes all
 their rear springs like an inch shorter than the front....they say this
 levels the truck.  I used Downey's rubicon shackles that are suppose to give
 a 3/4" lift on the rear...if I hadn't my truck would be squatting.  I don't
 think they know what they're talking about with this.  Otherwise, I'm quite
 pleased
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:52:35 -0600
 From: Stricklin@tomah.com (Lisa Stricklin)
 Subject: Re; Tires
 Hey all I`ve got 33x12.5`s on 8" AR rims.  The fronts rub at full turn
 and when pulling out of the driveway or parking lot.  Must go slow.  I
 don`t have a lift yet but planning a 3" soon.
 Ken
 stricklin@tomah.com
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 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:54:00 +1000
 From: sosullivan@energy.com.au
 Subject: Idle on 92 v6 sr5 ltd
 How do you set the idle on the 92 v6 's.  Ive got a Haynes manual, but the
 control or screw that it refers to is nowhere to be found.
 Thanks.  On another note, any of you guys in the U.S tried out Kelly tires?
 What are they like??
 Sean O'Sullivan
 '92 sr5 ltd 4runner 2.25 Genie turbo exhaust, 2" pedders rear lift,
 nightstalker spots,bald dunlops
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:47:11 -0700
 From: "David Eggleston"  Subject: Re: superlift
 Just an added note.  Superlift makes all>their rear springs like an inch shorter than the front....they say this>levels the truck.  I used Downey's rubicon shackles that are suppose to
 give>a 3/4" lift on the rear...if I hadn't my truck would be squatting.  I don't>think they know what they're talking about with this.  Otherwise, I'm quite>pleased> This applies to pickups in new condition. When new, the trucks were
 nose-heavy and thus an inch less lift in the rear would indeed level it out.
 This doesn't apply to runners since the extra weight they have back there
 made them level from the factory when new. When you put this on a truck (or
 4Runner) with a few years under its belt, the theory is shot all to hell.
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:53:00 -0700
 From: "David Eggleston"  Subject: Re: MSD Ignition>Also, has anyone had good luck with these ignitions?> I am running an MSD 6T on mine, although it is on a V-8. I would recommend a
 set of platinum plugs. The very nature of multiple spark ignitions, will
 wear down plugs at an accelerated rate. When I first installed the MSD, I
 used a new set of regular Autolites.. they lasted about 2000 miles before
 they had worn down to the point of uselessness. I replaced them with
 Autolite Double-Platinums and after 15000 miles, the gap had not changed at
 all. as far as performance/mileage gains, I cannot say as at the same
 approximate time I converted from carburetor to TBI. The two combined
 produced huge power and respnse gains, but I cannot tell how much (if any)
 can be attributed to the MSD.
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 David Eggleston
 Glendale, CO
 '84 X-Cab: supercharged 283 V-8/TH-350
 5" suspension/3" body lift, 38.5" Hawgs
 toy283@mho.net
 ICQ  11394206
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 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:13:55 -0800
 From: "Jason Brooks"  Subject: bio
 Name: Jason Brooks
 City, State: Granite Bay, CA
 Country: USA
 E-Mail address: dogman@quiknet.com
 Toyotas Year & models: 84 & 86
 Are you a tlca member? no
 Age: 29
 Occupation: Paramedic Firefighter
 Hobbies: hunting, fire dept., fishing, and wheeling
 I found out out the digest by surfing
 Gen info:  I am building my dream 84 ex-cab on a swb frame and bed bobbed
 on both ends just for the rocks.  My 86 is a swb with Rancho lift,2"
 bodylift, TRDs & 4.88 in both ends, rebuilt eng. and trans. this is my
 hunting truck.
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:40:18 -0800
 From: Hollis Ferris  Subject: Re: bio
 Jason Brooks wrote:>> Name: Jason Brooks> City, State: Granite Bay, CA> Country: USA> E-Mail address: dogman@quiknet.com> Toyotas Year & models: 84 & 86> Are you a tlca member? no> Age: 29> Occupation: Paramedic Firefighter> Hobbies: hunting, fire dept., fishing, and wheeling> I found out out the digest by surfing> Gen info:  I am building my dream 84 ex-cab on a swb frame and bed bobbed> on both ends just for the rocks.  My 86 is a swb with Rancho lift,2"> bodylift, TRDs & 4.88 in both ends, rebuilt eng. and trans. this is my> hunting truck.
 Welcome to the list man.  You live right around the corner from me. (I am
 in O.V.)  Do you know anyone that has some used, but usable, 35's for
 sale?  I am also building an 84' short-bed!!
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:45:55 -0800
 From: Hollis Ferris  Subject: Re:  bio
 Jason Brooks wrote:>> Name: Jason Brooks> City, State: Granite Bay, CA> Country: USA> E-Mail address: dogman@quiknet.com> Toyotas Year & models: 84 & 86> Are you a tlca member? no> Age: 29> Occupation: Paramedic Firefighter> Hobbies: hunting, fire dept., fishing, and wheeling> I found out out the digest by surfing> Gen info:  I am building my dream 84 ex-cab on a swb frame and bed bobbed> on both ends just for the rocks.  My 86 is a swb with Rancho lift,2"> bodylift, TRDs & 4.88 in both ends, rebuilt eng. and trans. this is my> hunting truck.
 Welcome to the list man.  You live right around the corner from me. (I am
 in O.V.)  Do you know anyone that has some used, but usable, 35's for
 sale?  I am also building an 84' short-bed!!
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 23:58:20 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: body lift
 Buter Gregory A wrote:>> i want a 1 inch body lift.  should i buy a 2incher and chop it.  **if so> id buy it from whoever is selling it******  or is there a better way.> i saw someone mentioning using poly bodymounts plus stock mounts, is this> a good idea?
 There is a guy on the Toyota 4x4 newsgroup selling a 1" body lift for
 around $44 with aluminum pucks, hardware, and radiator lowering brackets
 supplied. I plan to order one later in the week. I don't have the info.
 in front of me, but e-mail me off list and I can give his name and phone
 number (he's in Alabama).
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 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician      http://www.off-road.com/~toytech/
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 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 00:34:48 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Re: Hollister Hills - Nov 27
 Leo G. Divinagracia III wrote:>>> From: Scott Wilson >>>>                         There are no food places near the 4WD park.>> actually, there's a small 'general store' within the park.  just a> half mile or so down from the ranger station, in the motorcycle area is> the store.  grid marker N7 on the HH map in the lower ranch section.  but,> expect to pay up the wazoo for stuff...
 My point was its not NEAR the 4WD park.   That's a good 30 minutes round
 trip assuming we're all eating at the obstacle course.
 Scott
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 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 05:52:58 +0000
 From: "David Ohendalski"  Subject: courtesy lights
 Sound good, but what exactly are courtesy lights? And where do you
 get them? Thanks  ~dso> I am going to return the tractor lights I just pruchased & get 4 of these> curtesy lights (one per body mount) - I am that impressed.> David Ohendalski  davido@tamu.edu
 FTAC '98
 Texas A&M Off-Road
 http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/4399
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 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 07:40:28 -0500
 From: "Mercer, Carl"  Subject: Re: supercharger
 I'm not really worried about the warranty, I'll take my chances with the
 engine. I assume that I would have trouble getting an engine failure fixed
 under warranty, but not impossible (it is a Toyota product). If you have it
 installed by a dealer then you should have no problem at all getting engine
 work taken care of.
 I have no idea how much it would cost to install it. I assume $300 would be
 a max ($40 an hour). I didn't check because I'm OK around an engine and
 everything I seen indicates this is a do-it-yourself project. I don't
 actually get it delivered until Wednesday so we'll see if I change my mind.
 $4999 sound very excessive. I got mine for $2300 American. Assuming worst
 case all the way around, I think $4000 would be an upper limit.
 Carl
 Carl.Mercer@usa.xerox.com> What about warranty?  How much did your local Toy dealer want for the> install?  In Calgary the price is $4999 installed.> Steve C. wrote:>>>> Mercer, Carl wrote:>>>>> Hi everyone.>>>>>> I just ordered the supercharger (YIPPEE).>> I HATE you!!!! 8*) I want one of those soooo bad....>>> I hear its really an easy addon.  good luck and if you dont mind post>> the cost and location for future reference.>> -->  Steve Capuano>  stevecapuano@geocities.com>> ==========================================================
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 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:22:22 -0500
 From: Thomas Bank  Subject: Re: Crutchfield
 My personal experience has been that the local retailer will match the
 price, but Crutchfield includes the needed installation kit which the
 local retailer wants $40 to $60 for.  They have also been very good with
 the technical support when I needed it where the local retailer insists
 that I bring it in and pay to have him install it.  That has been my
 experience, YMMV.
 prpltoy@webtv.net (Dirty Truck) wrote:
 I work in the car electronics industry... I have now for over 8 years...
 Whatever you do dont buy JUNK from Crutchfield... They are not any more
 cost effective than buying it from your local retailer...
 Thomas Bank
 trbankii@microserve.net
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 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:27:34 -0500
 From: Thomas Bank  Subject: Still Learning...
 I have had a headlight high beam problem for a couple weeks now.  It
 started with the high beams turning back off after being on for a few
 minutes.  Then it went to the high beams not working at all.  The
 strange thing was that the high beam indicator would still come on.  I
 have a PIAA harness with relays that runs the juice straight from the
 battery to the lights.  Up until now I have been very pleased with it,
 noticeably more light that way even with stock bulbs (I have the Hellas
 with the 50/100 H4's).  Anyway, I was convinced that the harness was the
 problem and finally had the time to start checking it out.  Spent a hour
 messing with it and could not find the problem.  So I decided to just
 disconnect it and deal with it later.  Guess what?  The high beams still
 did not work.  Turns out that it is the headlight switch in the steering
 column.  Have to tear that apart now.  As a lesson, don't immediately
 blame the aftermarket goodies.
 Thomas Bank
 trbankii@microserve.net
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 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:04:00 -0500
 From: "Karl Bellve, Ph.D."  Subject: Re: Still Learning...
 Thomas Bank wrote:>> I have had a headlight high beam problem for a couple weeks now.  It> started with the high beams turning back off after being on for a few> minutes.  Then it went to the high beams not working at all.  The> strange thing was that the high beam indicator would still come on.  I> have a PIAA harness with relays that runs the juice straight from the> battery to the lights.  Up until now I have been very pleased with it,> noticeably more light that way even with stock bulbs (I have the Hellas> with the 50/100 H4's).  Anyway, I was convinced that the harness was the> problem and finally had the time to start checking it out.  Spent a hour> messing with it and could not find the problem.  So I decided to just> disconnect it and deal with it later.  Guess what?  The high beams still> did not work.  Turns out that it is the headlight switch in the steering> column.  Have to tear that apart now.  As a lesson, don't immediately> blame the aftermarket goodies.> Thomas, sorry you had to go through that. Hey, if you would have asked
 on the list, we would have known the right answer and saved you tons of
 time! :-) Yes, this is a common problem with Toyota high beam switches.
 Mine has gone bad and I haven't replaced it yet.
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 Karl Bellve, Ph.D.                   ICQ # 13956200
 Biomedical Imaging Group             TLCA# 7938
 University of Massachusetts
 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-6514
 Fax:   (508) 856-1840
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 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:18:36 -0600
 From: "Brian.Gallus (Exchange)"  Subject: RE: LC Timing Chain
 You wrote:
 I was talking to a mechanic about the LC timing kit and he said that
 bacause of the metal guides as opposed to plastic guides in the stock
 kit it will be nosier.Is this something i should be concern about ? or
 is he wrong.Thanks
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 Just installed the kit myself.  The guides are PLASTIC.  Your mechanic is
 wrong.
 Brian K. Gallus
 Technical Analyst - Dayton Hudson Corp.
 (612) 761-2620
 Brian.Gallus@dhcmail.com
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 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:22:01 -0600
 From: "Brian.Gallus (Exchange)"  Subject: re: 22r to 22RE for $50>I was wondering if anyone has done this swap?
 I've done a 22r to 22re swap.... but not with Celica parts...>can it be done with all Celica>parts or do I need parts from a p/u or 4runner as well?
 Sorry.. don't know.  I'm pretty sure there are similarities, but I'd doubt
 that the cam is the same...  Could be wrong?>I was thinking that I will probably take:>entire intake>wiring harness including computer>Valve cover>exaust manifold>all of the sensors>cam>distributor>coil/ignitor>I don't think that I need the entire head, does anyone know?
 No, you don't need the entire head.  The 22r/22re heads are the same.>Can I keep my current cam?
 Don't think so.  Believe the grind may be *too* different...  Recommend a
 mild aftermarket cam or stock 22re cam.  Again, I'm not sure if the came for
 the celica is the same as for the 4by.>I am pretty sure that my throttle cable will not work...will the Celica>cable work?
 Sorry, can't help you there.
 bkg
 Brian K. Gallus
 Technical Analyst - Dayton Hudson Corp.
 (612) 761-2620
 Brian.Gallus@dhcmail.com
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 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:34:24 -0500
 From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
 Subject: Cam Timing
 Ed Wrote:
 The "drill extra holes in the stock gear" only applies to the older dual
 row chain gears.
 The older timing gear had a "full inner circle" with one hole drilled in
 it. The idea was
 to count over three teeth and drill another hole but 1 degree off.
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 Brian replied:
 Ed... I don't understand this at all.  Three is a HUGE amount of difference
 - - - LC told me 10 degrees per tooth!
 I just don't understand how this would work effectively, especially
 considering the small adjustments afforded by the LC piece...
 Help me here - I'm in new terratory and not quite understanding.. ;-)
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 Ok -
 Ya cant look at a single row (post 84?) timing gear because it
 wont work with that. But it helps you visualie the issue.
 If you look at the timing gear, the index hole is centered
 below one of the "notches" in the gear. Thats the "zero"
 position.
 To get say +1 degree - you need to move the hole over by 1
 degree - so that its NOT directly below the bottom of the
 the notch in the gear.
 But you cant do that because then the index hole is no
 longer circular - its oblong - and the cam timing
 will slide around - not good.
 Now on a single row timing bear - the area where the index
 hole is drilled is "egg" shapped. There is enough metal for
 the center hole (where the bolt goes that attaches the
 gear to the cam shaft) and the one index hole.
 However, the double row timing gears are different - the
 center are is circular. The cam bolt hole is centered
 in the circular area, and the index hole is drilled in the
 "rim" area.
 So - here the trick.
 Paint / mark the index hole.
 count three teeth counter clockwise - think of that as
 "advanced". Now drill a new hole below the third notch -
 BUT do not drill the hole exactly below the notch -
 move the hole over by 1 degree to the left.
 Now go back to the original center "zero" hole. Count
 over three teeth clockwise and drill a new hole 1 degree
 off of the bottom of the notch but 1 degree the right...
 Continue around for as many holes as you can fit....
 If ya send me a fax number I can dig up the
 original instruction sheet.
 The picture there helps alot.
 EWong
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