Toyota 4x4 digest:      Monday, September 7 1998      Volume 02 : Number 067
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 RE: Last minute problems (always)
 RE: Last minute problems (always)
 RE: Last minute problems (always)
 Looking for parts for '93
 Re: Wheeling places near Lake Alpine
 AC prob
 RE factory manuals
 New truck!
 Re: RE factory manuals
 Re: AC prob
 Re: Need your HELP!!!
 Re:Bio
 Labor costs- was HG warranty repair-Mr Brink
 Need Info On a '82 TREKKER
 Custom Cab or 4runner WTB
 ROCKER ARM CLEARENCE
 RE: Custom Cab or 4runner WTB
 Head gasket replacement
 4wd shops in Portland, OR
 Misc.
 Re: ROCKER ARM CLEARENCE
 jumping out of gear
 Electric fan
 Re: jumping out of gear
 [none]
 RE:  98 TRD observations questions
 New web site/Moab Jeep (toyota) Safari
 RE: 98 TRD observations questions
 Tacoma Lifts
 Tacoma Web Page
 cam
 steering arm
 Factory Service Manuals - from TLCA
 BIO
 RE: Bio
 RE: Tacoma Lifts
 RE: Manual Hubs for Tacoma with ADD
 Personal Bio Info
 Downey V6 instruction manual
 Battery Terminals
 DOOR PANELS
 double steering rod
 Front Differential Temperatures
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 Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:57:56 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: RE: Last minute problems (always)
 "Kenneth Sigel"  wrote:>Does everyone work on their Toys at the last minute?
 Yeah....so what?
 The Jeep guys don't do that.....I always see them working on theirs
 out on the trail  ;-).........or are those just breaks    ;-)
 Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet   (ROKTOY)
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 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:09:50 -0700
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: RE: Last minute problems (always)
 We had a great trip...  3 Toy pickups, one Sami, and one J**P.  We camped at
 Wentworth Friday night and started on the trail Saturday around 7:30am.  The
 trail was lots of fun since I just put my 34" Super Swampers back on and a
 Lockright in the front.  It's amazing what my truck will do now.  I picked
 the hardest lines I could find and still walked over almost everything.  I
 couldn't get up soup bowl though.  I kept getting high centered and we had
 some traffic coming.  Li'l Sluice was a snap...  I'll have to try it in the
 dark next time.  One of the Toys almost rolled going downthe slabs.  He hit
 his brakes a little hard coming off a slab and then killed the engine.  My
 buddy was hanging on the rear corner of the bed to keep it on its wheels.
 We camped at Buck on Saturday night.  On Sunday, there were a bunch of
 Toyotas leaving the Rubithon.  We were even stopped just below the turn on
 Big Sluice to wait while Jim Job welded up a '91 pickup with a broken
 steering arm and outer CV.  We stopped at the Springs to swim and eat lunch
 before heading up the hill.  I can't wait to go back.
 On Sunday, a small group might be going up to Fordyce for a day trip.  If
 anyone's interested, send me a note.
 Ken
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 From:	owner-toy4x4@tlca.org [mailto:owner-toy4x4@tlca.org] On Behalf Of
 Brandon Miller
 Sent:	Thursday, September 03, 1998 10:55 PM
 To:	toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject:	Re: Last minute problems (always)
 How was it?  My trips have all been late, 3 trips leaving after dark and 3
 trips through the little sluice in the dark..  You do the sluice?  In the
 dark?
 It is a whole different beast that way..
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 From: Kenneth Sigel  To:  Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 10:27 PM
 Subject: RE: Last minute problems (always)>Does everyone work on their Toys at the last minute?  I was on Rubicon last>weekend, but before I left town Friday, I had to fix my air compressor.>Since I just finished my front bumper that doubles as an air tank, I
 decided>to plumb the line to the new tank.  I also wanted to check the existing
 tank>which was a 2.5 gallon that I mounted above the driveshaft.  Keep in mind>that I started at noon and my friends were meeting me at 4pm - and I still>hadn't packed my truck!  After unbolting the mounts for the tank, I
 realized>that it was fine, but should have a new 1/4" NPT fitting on it...  so I
 make>a run to the store for fittings...  and an inline oiler...  and another>oil/water filter would be good...  So anyway, I finished getting that>together when I realized it would be really cool to have another gauge>inside my truck...  back to the store.  Luckily, Grand Auto had the airline>I needed with fittings.  Just about the time I finished the setup, I>realized that two of my four rocklights were still on the floor of my
 garage>and I'd probably want them.  Of course rocklights shouldn't take more than>15 minutes to hook up...  NOT!  Another separate fuse panel would be
 cool...>back to the store.  I finally got the lights done, but my truck still
 wasn't>packed and it was almost 4pm.  I pulled a load of laundry out of the dryer>and shoved what I needed in a bag.  My friends showed up while I was
 putting>my tools back in my toolbox.  They decided to go to McD's while I packed my>truck.  I got everything in and my friends came back...  except one of them>remembered that they had the key to their garage and their roommate's car>would have been locked up without it...  so off he went.  We left town>around 6pm.>-Ken>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:16:04 -0700
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: RE: Last minute problems (always)
 Good one, Jay.
 - -----Original Message-----
 "Kenneth Sigel"  wrote:>Does everyone work on their Toys at the last minute?
 Yeah....so what?
 The Jeep guys don't do that.....I always see them working on theirs
 out on the trail  ;-).........or are those just breaks    ;-)
 Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet   (ROKTOY)
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 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:14:46 +0100
 From: "Matt McIntosh"  Subject: Looking for parts for '93
 I'm looking for the following at a good price:
 Cruise Control Actuator  (besides off-roading, I do a lot of freeway too!)
 Gear Shift Knob (Dark Blue/Dark Gray/Black in good condition)
 Chrome trim strip for edge of wheel well on passenger side front (A branch
 ate it)
 Thanks.
 - -Matt
 bigmac58@usa.net
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 Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 17:29:51 -0700
 From: "Roger Brown, P.E."  Subject: Re: Wheeling places near Lake Alpine
 Joey wrote:> Does anyone know of any places to wheel near Lake Alpine in CA.
 A few, chek out my web page (below):
 Slick Rock is cool (Utica to Lake Alpine) and Deer Valley is really nice.
 Also some other trails to the north of 4 that I'm not familiar with but are
 shown on the Stanislaus NF map.
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 Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 22:55:28 -0500
 From: michael  Subject: AC prob
 This has happened to me twice lately, both on HOT TEXAS days.  I'm motoring
 along and it seems like the air is getting hotter.  I fiddle with the ac
 on/off buttons, fresh and recirculate, sure enough it is getting hot.  Then
 seconds later it's like I'm just using the vent.  After the truck (85 22re)
 was turned off and sat a few minutes, the ac blew cold again.  System was
 recently charged and I'm hearing the compressor come on and off.......also
 it was idling high, like 1500. First time was off road, second (today)
 traffic.  Is there a short or bad switch?  Where do I start??
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 Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 23:10:00 -0500
 From: michael  Subject: RE factory manuals
 Best price I have found is Brown's city Toyota, the 85 4runner
 manual set me back $74. + ship.  I can't find the phone #, that helps you
 all out alot, huh.  I'll post it when the manual gets here this week.
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 Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 21:50:41 -0700
 From: Ken Emanuel  Subject: New truck!
 I've been searching for a "new" truck for over 2 months now and I
 finally found one.  It's a black 1994 Xtra Cab SR5 V6 5 speed.  It has
 all the options--CD, power package, "sport" package, sunroof, etc.  It
 drives a lot nicer than my '87.   I'm not crazy about caring for a black
 truck, but I couldn't pass it up because it has been meticulously cared
 for.
 Anyways, just thought I'd share my excitement.
 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 Ken Emanuel                     Emanuel@csus.edu
 '87 Xtra Cab SR5
 '94 Xtra Cab SR5 V6 yada yada yada
 http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac75830/toystuff.htm
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 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:28:59 -0400 (EDT)
 From: "Karl D. Bellve"  Subject: Re: RE factory manuals
 On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, michael wrote:>         Best price I have found is Brown's city Toyota, the 85 4runner> manual set me back $74. + ship.  I can't find the phone #, that helps you> all out alot, huh.  I'll post it when the manual gets here this week.
 Brown's Toyota always seems to have the lowest price with or without a
 TLCA discount. It actually makes the TLCA discount useless. I bought my
 factory manuals from Brown's 8 years ago for about $55. The best money I
 have ever spent on my truck, second best was the TJM bumper. The book will
 pay for itself by showing you the proper way to do jobs.
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 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 06:55:43 -0700 (PDT)
 From: TrailDogg@webtv.net (~Trail Dogg~)
 Subject: Re: AC prob
 i`am no a/c expert but it sounds like something is frezing up (to cold)
 maybe the evap in the cab.
 Darren Sinkey//SeaBass!
 82 l/b 22r,7"@33"s
 Oroville,Ca.?????where?
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 Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 09:10:20 -0700
 From: Paul  Subject: Re: Need your HELP!!!
 This is a great message, and I hope all of you will take a few minutes
 out of your time to write a brief note of support.  It is easy to get caught
 up in our own lives and not bother to fight for our rights.  But the reality
 of the situation is that we are losing more and more areas to 4wheel and the
 trend isn't just going to go away.  Now is the time to do something about
 it.  The longer it is left go the less we will be able to save.
 I would encourage everyone to let the list know of such issues, and take
 the time to get involved.
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 From: brian.gallus@dhcmail.com  To: toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 11:53 AM
 Subject: Need your HELP!!!>HI all,>>Some of you may be aware that the Minnesota 4wheel Drive Association has>been working very, very hard with other groups in this state to open an>OHV park in the Gilbert, Minnesota area.  The process has been going on>for quite some time now, and while we are making progress, there are>also many barriers to get through.  I'd like to ask the help of everyone>on the list.  We are currently undertaking a "letter writing" campaign>of sorts to the DNR of this state letting them know that there are many,>many people who want to see this park open.  If we succeed, it will be a>big win for the MN4WDA and all off-road enthusiasts in this state... In>the days of land closures accross the country, it is very encouraging>that there is a possibility that we can potentially start to reverse>this trend.  Please, if you are interested at all in Land Closure>issues, please send an email of encouragement and support to:>>rodney.sando@dnr.state.mn.us>>Commissioner Sando is a very important person to have on our side...>Remember to Tread Lightly!>>Thanks,>Brian K. Gallus>President, Minnesota Toyx4s>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:07:46 -0700
 From: "Vic & Lorelei"  Subject: Re:Bio
 T. J. Witten wrote:>I remember the night I bought the truck home, I got up during the night to
 make>sure it was still there.
 Can anyone else relate to this? Come on now...  he he   Isnt this allot like
 an "AA" meeting?
 *As I hold my hand up*
 Your not the only one who does this...
 Happy wheeling,
 Vic
 When approaching a four-way stop,
 the vehicle with the largest tires
 always has the right of way.
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 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:55:08 -0600
 From: Woody Giles  Subject: Labor costs- was HG warranty repair-Mr Brink
 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:47:19 -0700
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: HG Warranty Repair - What else???> Scott Stehle wrote:>>> I just got my notice in the mail that Toyota will proactively (about>> time?!!?) replace my headgasket for free and am wondering if anybody has>> recommendations as to what else I should have done while they are doing the>> HG? Do they completely pull the engine to do the hg? I have a 94' Runner>> with 50k on it. I'm the second owner so was considering having them do the>> clutch while they're in there if they do have to pull the engine. How long>> have other folks clutches lasted. I do mostly city driving but get down and>> dirty when I can, which unfortunately isn't often enough.
 Here's a few other things for them to check/replace:>Timing belt and related tensioners/idlers,>Knock sensor shield wire ($12),>Water pump,>Cam and crankshaft seals,>Fan belts,>Valve adjustment,>While the above listed services are much easier to be performed while>the heads are off, don't expect to have them done for free. Labor costs>money! I've seen a few posts from disappointed truck owners that expect>all of these items to be covered with the head gasket repair and that is>not so. The labor costs are significantly reduced however, once the>engine is opened up.
 I agree these things shouldn't be expected to be done for free, but around
 my part of the world I get the feeling that the local dealer is tacking more
 than a few hours of labor for these other things.
 Does it really take 2 1/2 hours extra to change the timing belt along with
 the head gasket repair?? What is considered normal hour charges to have
 these additional things tended too?? I realize labor rates vary around the
 country but what are the flat rate hour charges for these items. Then I can
 determine if the local dealer is out of line.
 Thanks
 Woody in Wyoming
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 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:20:40 -0700
 From: wmarcinkiw@umagroup.com
 Subject: Need Info On a '82 TREKKER
 I just bought a 1982 Toyota Trekker.  What I know about it, is that it is a prototype, made before the 4-Runner.  It looks like a 4-Runner, except built out of a short wheelbase 1982 4X4 truck.  The back half of the truck is made completely out of fibreglass and the cab forward is steel.
 I also know, that there were 1982-83 Trailblazers and Wolverines made, just like my Trekker.  Just a different named depending on whether it was made in Canada or in the USA.
 What I was wondering if anyone has more info on these Toyota trucks.
 Thanks
 WES
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 Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:55:57 -0600
 From: Kerry Manning  Subject: Custom Cab or 4runner WTB
 Well I finally got around to selling my 72 FJ55 and now I begin my
 search for the perfect mini.  Ever since I saw a custom cab in a
 parking lot I have wanted to own one, now is my chance.  I would
 consider a custom cab anywhere in any condition (within reason). Also
 a 4runner would be nice too below I will list what my dream truck
 would be if you know or have something similar please drop me a line:
 - -1985 Toyota Custom Cab(the 2dr 4-seater)Pick-up or 4runner
 -the year isn't really important as long as it has a solid front
 - -TURBO would be great but at least EFI
 - -5speed manual
 - -2-3" lift with +31"
 - -SR5
 - -TOYOTA full gauges
 - -Low miles
 - -all the usual stuff you find on a wish list.
 - -in colorado
 I am actually getting a bit frustrated because i have been looking for
 about two weeks and I have missed a good $1900 '84 4runner by a mater
 of minutes and most heart breaking was a perfect 86' turbo, PW,PL,
 cruise, loaded, it even had the very rare digital
 gauges! all for only $3300 and I missed it :-(  But it had an auto so I
 wasn't to depressed.
 Kerry Manning
 Mechanical Engineering Student @ Colorado State University
 d55guy@engr.colostate.edu
 http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~d55guy
 1-970-472-0516
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 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:12:05 -0400
 From: "Michael Sean Farrell"  Subject: ROCKER ARM CLEARENCE
 HELLO ALL!,
 JUST FINISHED REBUILDING MY 22R AND I'M EXPERIENCING SOME
 TICKING FROM MY ROCKER ARMS (I THINK).
 TOYOTA SAYS THE THE INTAKE CLEARENCE IS 0.008
 AND THE EXHAUST CLEARENCE IS 0.012 IN, JUST FINISHED RE-ADJUSTING THEM
 TODAY AND STILL TICKING.  I KNOW THAT MY VALVE COVER PROBABLY MAKES
 THE NOISE SEEM LOUDER THAN IT ACTUALLY IS BUT EVERYTHING WENT
 VERY WELL WITH THE REBUILD BUT THIS DAMN NOISE!!
 ANY THOUGHTS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!
 THANKS
 MICHAEL SEAN FARRELL
 PS:  I GOING TO BE A SENIOR THIS YEAR AND I WAS WONDERING
 IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY GOOD IDEAS FOR
 A DESIGN PROJECT!!!!!!!!!   I'M A MECHANICAL ENGINEER!!!!!!!!!
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 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:20:10 -0700
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: RE: Custom Cab or 4runner WTB
 Go for the 4Runner.  I have an '88 Shortbed that I love except that there's
 not enough room for my stuff in the cab.
 Ken
 _______________________
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 www.c4wheelers.com
 TLCA #6752
 - -----Original Message-----
 I am actually getting a bit frustrated because i have been looking for
 about two weeks and I have missed a good $1900 '84 4runner by a mater
 of minutes and most heart breaking was a perfect 86' turbo, PW,PL,
 cruise, loaded, it even had the very rare digital
 gauges! all for only $3300 and I missed it :-(  But it had an auto so I
 wasn't to depressed.
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 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:26:05 -0400
 From: "Figenbaum, Rob"  Subject: Head gasket replacement
 As prevouisly stated I am going through the not fun job of replacing
 timing chain while being forced to replace head gasket.  I still have a
 long way to go almost halfway done after 12 hours.  But i ran into a
 problem, my number 8 (loosening sequence) cylindern head bolt broke (#5
 was tough as well but it came loose, look like it melted to block
 threads are not clean).  What can I do?  Also Iheard rumor that the
 intake manifolg does not need to come off to lift head is this true?
 Please help
 Please, I can be paged as well (toll free) 888-629-6088 leave number and
 I will call back.
 Rob Figenbaum
 Network Administrator
 Rational Software
 20 Maguire Road
 Lexington, MA  02173
 Tel 	(781) 676-7676
 Fax	none for the moment
 Email 	rfigenbaum@rational.com
 Rlefig@javanet.com
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 Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 11:06:09 +0800
 From: Mark  Subject: 4wd shops in Portland, OR
 I live in Hong Kong where our selection of 4wd parts and accessories is very limited and $$$.  Does any one know of:
 - - a couple of good 4wd shops
 - - large general auto supply stores
 in the Portland, OR area.  I will be there for 3 days the week of Sept 14.
 By the way, I have a 1990 Toyota Hilux 2.8 liter diesel with 33 BFG AT,
 4" lift, Warn 8000, ARB lockers, RS5000 (wrong spec - travel too short),
 etc.
 Thanks for the help,
 Mark
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 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:57:02 -0700
 From: "Gregory Michael Muchin"  Subject: Misc.
 Gregory Michael Muchin
 P.O. Box 1882
 Woodinville, WA  98072-1882 USA
 425-373-1159
 425-260-5090
 mastp@cnw.com
 3022596
 http://www.cnw.com/~mastp/Home.htm
 Anyone got a good set a 38.5" tires they wanna sell???  Anyone wanna Ramsey
 winch??  Anyone got iso-din brackets off there old stock toyota radio?  If
 you can help on any of these feel free to email me...Visit my homepage too
 if you have time, and give me your input...
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 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 13:57:02 -0400
 From: "Bernie H"  Subject: Re: ROCKER ARM CLEARENCE
 Do the valve clearances HOT as possible, not too loose and not too tight.
 Might try the old stethoscope trick to figure out which valve is knocking
 from which cylinder at least and only adjust that one.  Did you have your
 heads/valves re-done as part of the rebuild?
 p.s. I hope your not talking about the fuel injector tick tick, much higher
 pitch than a valve knock.
 - -------------------------------------------------------
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 ICQ# 394598
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 From: Michael Sean Farrell  To: Toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: September 5, 1998 3:13 PM
 Subject: ROCKER ARM CLEARENCE>HELLO ALL!,>>JUST FINISHED REBUILDING MY 22R AND I'M EXPERIENCING SOME>TICKING FROM MY ROCKER ARMS (I THINK).>>TOYOTA SAYS THE THE INTAKE CLEARENCE IS 0.008>AND THE EXHAUST CLEARENCE IS 0.012 IN, JUST FINISHED RE-ADJUSTING THEM>TODAY AND STILL TICKING.  I KNOW THAT MY VALVE COVER PROBABLY MAKES>THE NOISE SEEM LOUDER THAN IT ACTUALLY IS BUT EVERYTHING WENT>VERY WELL WITH THE REBUILD BUT THIS DAMN NOISE!!>>ANY THOUGHTS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!>>>THANKS>>MICHAEL SEAN FARRELL>>>PS:  I GOING TO BE A SENIOR THIS YEAR AND I WAS WONDERING>       IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY GOOD IDEAS FOR>        A DESIGN PROJECT!!!!!!!!!   I'M A MECHANICAL ENGINEER!!!!!!!!!>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 18:33:42
 From: TIM BREWERS  Subject: jumping out of gear
 When i first bought my truck it would occasionally jump out of gear.  But lately it is happening more and more.  Would this be my clutch? tranny? If it is my clutch or tranny does anyone have any recommendations.  I don't do a whole lot of off-roading and what i do is pretty much just mudding.  If possible i would like to swap in an automatic for my 5 speed. Anyone done it?  How hard is it, and how much did it cost?  And what about after market clutches, good-bad experiences?  Thanks
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 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:34:46 -0700
 From: "Devin Noel"  Subject: Electric fan
 Has anyone out there put an electric fan in to replace the belt driven one
 in a 22R? I am looking to do so, and havent found any recommendations for
 any specific make/models that work well for a 22R. I have seen the $75
 dollar ones at discount auto shops, and the $200 ones in Performance
 Products, and am hoping the cheapy ones perform as well as the more spendy
 ones, but I want to put the right one in. Let me know if you have done this,
 or have any input.
 Devin Noel		'86 Longbed 22R almost complete rebuild
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 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:41:53 -0700 (PDT)
 From: TrailDogg@webtv.net (~Trail Dogg~)
 Subject: Re: jumping out of gear
 it could be the plastic DETENT ball on top of the tranny under the
 shifter lever, cost aprox. $5 from toyota.
 Darren Sinkey//SeaBass!
 82 l/b 22r,7"@33"s
 Oroville,Ca.?????where?
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 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:56:27 -0500
 From: "c-bentley"  Subject: [none]
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 Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 21:08:49 -0500
 From: jorrand@edge.net (J Orrand)
 Subject: RE:  98 TRD observations questions
 I don't know why you would want to put manual hubs on your TRD Tacoma.
 I have a 1997 Tacoma and love not having to get out and lock in the hubs
 all the time.  I had a 1991 Toy with manual hubs and don't miss them at
 all.  In reference to your question:  It will void the warranty on the
 ADD system and the hubs themselves but nothing else.  I would just leave
 the ADD system alone and drive the truck as is.  The only thing manual
 hubs are good for is adding a LOCKER to the front Diff.  I don't
 recommend this unless your a heavy hitting wheeler.  A front locker will
 make the truck hard to handle in snow and ice and will create steering
 problems when engaged.  A rear locker is enough for most 4x4
 enthusiasts.
 visit my site at http://www.geocities.com/baja/canyon/2437/index.html
 jorrand@edge.net
 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:02:11 -0400
 From: mdenison@shipley.com
 Subject: 98 TRD observations. questions
 Well I just bought a new truck.   white 3.4l Xtra , TRD, ABS, and
 thankfully no power windows.  I got a pretty good end of year deal- the
 99s
 are coming in. (no changes as far as i can tell).  One thing i couldn't
 get
 was the bucket seat w/ center cosole.  So I need to find a junk yard
 seat
 or aftermarket.  Really need a center console.  TRD is also not
 available
 with manual hubs!  The TRD suspension is far superior to the non TRD SR5
 i
 drove and the V6 has effortless power  (of course i'm used to an
 amazingly
 underpowered 91 cruiser). I havn't had it really offroad yet as i'm
 taking
 it easy breaking it in which brings me to questions.   I gather gentle,
 varied, relatively high RPM is best for breakin but why is it
 recommended
 to stay under 55MPH.  This is only 2300 RPM in fourth.
 The dealer said not to worry about an oil change till 3000miles.  I know
 this is bunk,  but at what miles should the first change be?
 According to fourwheeler truck of the year review the TRD came with
 factory
 4.10:1 gears but the Toy literature says it is 3.91:1.  So what gears do
 I
 have?
 Will adding manual hubs void any warranty and is there a detailed
 description anywhere of how to do this?
 Thanks to the list for helping me make the decision..
 Mark Denison
 Cambridge, MA
 98 TRD (98miles)
 86xtra cab (150k miles) (hers)
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 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:50:52 -0600
 From: "John Lange"  Subject: New web site/Moab Jeep (toyota) Safari
 If your bored check out my brand new site...There a few cool pics of our
 Toys.>http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/1282
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 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 19:47:39 -0700
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: RE: 98 TRD observations questions
 It all depends how you plan to use your 4x4.  If you're like me, you'll
 probably want the locking hubs...  but I drive an '88 pickup, not a brand
 new Tacoma.  I don't think I'd take the Tacoma through the Rubicon.  If you
 plan to need the Tacoma for mud and snow in the winter, I'd guess that the
 ADD would be great.  As for the front locker on my IFS Toy...  it's great!
 It does make my truck go straight, but I don't have any other qualms.  I
 love not having to worry about pulling a tire off the ground anymore.  I
 think that the front locker makes more difference than having a rear locker.
 The reason is that I don't pull rear tires as often.  I've climbed hills
 with just my rear ARB and then tried the same hills with just the front
 engaged.  It was easier with just the front locker than with just the rear.
 I still wish I could get an ARB for my 7.5" diff though.  Turning on the
 slabs adds a little stress up front. By the way, I have a Lockright in
 front.
 Ken
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 Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 21:48:01 -0500
 From: jorrand@edge.net (J Orrand)
 Subject: Tacoma Lifts
 I have a 1997 Tacoma Xtra Cab V6.  I use the truck as a daily driver but
 do enjoy off roading mildly.  I don't do any "tear up your truck" off
 roading.  I would like a little more ground clearance, and the abiltiy
 to put on a larger tire.  I currently have 15X10 Centerline HT-II's and
 31X10.50 tires.  I have been considering the Pro Comp 4" lift.  I would
 like to hear from somone with experience with this lift.  I have a
 couple of questions:
 1.  Does this lift cause anything to wear or break?
 2.  Will it allow for 33X12.50 tires on 15X10 wheels with no rubbing
 at full turn and
 or compression?
 3.  Does it cause any vibration or other annoying problems that I
 should know about?
 any help is greatly appreciated....
 jorrand@edge.net
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 Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 21:49:52 -0500
 From: jorrand@edge.net (J Orrand)
 Subject: Tacoma Web Page
 check out my web page
 http://www.geocities.com/baja/canyon/2437/index.html
 got cool stuff on Tacomas and pics
 jorrand@edge.net
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 Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 21:46:32 +0000
 From: Bryan Day  Subject: cam
 has any one tried the downey mid-range cam? 85 22r?
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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 07:41:36 +0200
 From: "Juhani Niittylahti"  Subject: steering arm
 Thanks for everybody who answered me via this list or personally. I
 have found contact info and allready discussed with Toyota 4x4
 Center.
 Juhani
 email: juhani.niittylahti@jyvastek.fi
 phone: 358-14-682 621, fax 358-14-682 612
 Petajavesi FINLAND (Northern Europe)
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 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:38:20 -1000
 From: owner-toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject: Factory Service Manuals - from TLCA
 Comprehensive
 Land Cruiser repair manuals and 4WD books from Australia.
 Now available in the U.S.
 Same manuals and books which have been available to TLCA members on the
 internet site Great reviews from everyone... ?far better than Haynes and
 Chilton?s combined!?
 Manuals
 (all manuals are hard bound)
 Gasoline
 #511 Land Cruiser FJ Series   1975 ? 1984       $30
 #507 Land Cruiser FJ Series   1985 ? 1990       $30
 #517 Land Cruiser 80s 1FZ-FE Series   1992 ? 1996       $30
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 Diesel
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 Books
 (not Land Cruiser specific)
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 4WD Survival Guide (152 pages - soft cover)     $24
 How to order:
 1. Clearly write which title(s) you are ordering
 2. Send check or money order
 3. Include a self-addressed mailing label to:
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 62 Jordan Avenue
 San Francisco, CA 94118
 hbrimmer@ix.netcom.com
 To simplify ordering process the shipping costs within the U.S. are
 included in the price (foreign orders, please include additional $5.00
 for the first book and $3.00 per book thereafter)
 Allow 2 weeks for delivery
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 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:48:45 +0800
 From: dj  Subject: BIO
 ===========================
 Personal Bio Info
 ===========================
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name: Daniel Rumble
 City & State: Perth  WA
 Country:Australia
 E-mail address:dj@inf.net.au
 Toyota (s) year & model:85 SR5 XTRA CAB
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):N
 Age:25
 Occupation:
 Marital Status:Single
 Hobbies:Offroading,Fishing,CB Radio
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:offroad.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 85 SR5 XTRA CAB  3" Lift , Ultimate Springs,
 Ultimate Shocks, ORE Bullbar, 31x10.50 BFG Mud Terrain's.
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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:12:37 +0200
 From: Johan Snyman  Subject: RE: Bio> -----Original Message-----> From: owner-toy4x4@tlca.org [mailto:owner-toy4x4@tlca.org] On> Behalf Of vsery@cnx.net> Sent: 06 September, 1998 12:28> To:   Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject:      Re:Bio>> T. J. Witten wrote:>>>I remember the night I bought the truck home, I got up> during the night to> make>sure it was still there.>> Can anyone else relate to this? Come on now...  he he   Isnt> this allot like> an "AA" meeting?
 I still do that after four months. I'ts becoming like a nightly ritual. Get some coke, check the truck...
 hehe.
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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:17:44 -0500
 From: Ryan Beal  Subject: RE: Tacoma Lifts
 Try looking at Downey Off Road's lift for the Tacoma's.  I think it's
 better than the Pro comp one.  It's adjustable from stock height to I
 think 3" or 4".  I've used downy products for years and have never had a
 complaint.
 Ryan S. Beal
 rbeal@rftechnologies.com
 1990 4Runner and many mods.
 Web Page:
 http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/y/a/ryans4runner/> ----------> From: 	jorrand@edge.net[SMTP:jorrand@edge.net]> Reply To: 	toy4x4@tlca.org> Sent: 	Sunday, September 06, 1998 9:48 PM> To: 	toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: 	Tacoma Lifts>> I have a 1997 Tacoma Xtra Cab V6.  I use the truck as a daily driver> but> do enjoy off roading mildly.  I don't do any "tear up your truck" off> roading.  I would like a little more ground clearance, and the abiltiy> to put on a larger tire.  I currently have 15X10 Centerline HT-II's> and> 31X10.50 tires.  I have been considering the Pro Comp 4" lift.  I> would> like to hear from somone with experience with this lift.  I have a> couple of questions:>     1.  Does this lift cause anything to wear or break?>     2.  Will it allow for 33X12.50 tires on 15X10 wheels with no> rubbing> at full turn and>           or compression?>     3.  Does it cause any vibration or other annoying problems that I> should know about?>> any help is greatly appreciated....>> jorrand@edge.net>>> ======================================================================> ======> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ============================================================================
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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:23:11 -0500
 From: Ryan Beal  Subject: RE: Manual Hubs for Tacoma with ADD
 Warn Will probably make hubs in the near future and if not  you can get
 the Toyota version hubs from the dealer. They're probably pretty pricey.> ----------> From: 	mdenison@shipley.com[SMTP:mdenison@shipley.com]> Reply To: 	toy4x4@tlca.org> Sent: 	Friday, September 04, 1998 5:19 PM> To: 	toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: 	Manual Hubs for Tacoma with ADD>>>>> I want to add manual hubs to my 98 Tacoma with ADD as per recent> postings I> just spoke with WARN  industries and they said they don't make a hub> to fit> any Tacomas and were not aware of any hubs to fit Tacomas!   So what> hubs> does Toyota use on non-ADD Tacomas and can I put these on my 98 with> ADD?> Can I just buy them from Toyota.> Mark Denison> Cambridge, MA> 98 TRD> 86 xtra cab>>>> ======================================================================> ======> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ============================================================================
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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:52:14 -0400
 From: "Jonathan B. Smith"  Subject: Personal Bio Info
 ===========================
 Personal Bio Info
 ===========================
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name:  Jonathan B. Smith
 City & State:  Dayton, OH
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: jbsmith@siscom.net
 Toyota (s) year & model:  1993 4X4 Pickup
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):  N
 Age:  25
 Occupation:  Engineer
 Marital Status:  Single
 Hobbies:  Hunting, Fishing, Camping, Photography, etc.
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:  Off-road.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 My truck is a 1993 Toyota 4x4 X-Tra Cab.  I've successfully driven it to
 California and back, twice...i.e. adding to a current figure of 140,000
 miles
 without ANY significant repair work.
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 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 16:38:15 -0400
 From: Charles Brooks  Subject: Downey V6 instruction manual
 I just rteceived the Downey swap manual. I'm surprised how straight
 forward a buick 231 carburated swap will be! They even recommend
 which GM stock exhaust manifolds to use to clear the Toyota frame
 rails! Cool...
 Charles Brooks
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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:54:00 +0000
 From: "shaun"  Subject: Battery Terminals
 Does anyone else have problems with their battery terminals staying
 clean and corrosion free?  Every other week I have to go and remove
 the cable clamps and clean the terminals so that I can get my 4Runner
 to start.  I will be driving around for a week or two with no
 problems, then at some random time I will not be able to start the
 engine until I remove both clamps and clean the terminals.  Then she
 starts and runs with no other problems for a week or two more.  My
 battery is never dead, the alternater works ( I tested it ) and
 all the cables appear to be connected well.  Is this just a Toyota
 thing?  Would a smear of dielectric grease on the clamps and
 terminals prevent this.  Should I get the type of cable that has the
 clamps integrated into it instead of the bolt on to the cable type
 clamps that I have now.  Thanks in advance.
 Shaun, Colo Springs, Colo
 1988 4Runner V6 SR5 Auto Tranny
 Address: trinity@codenet.net
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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 16:38:41 -0400
 From: "Rick"  Subject: DOOR PANELS
 Hello listers,
 I am still looking for factory inner door panels from an 87-89 SR5 with
 power windows and locks.
 I need all the buttons, but no motors (AFAIK).
 Thanks,
 Rick in NC
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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 16:41:59 -0400
 From: "Rick"  Subject: double steering rod
 Someone mentioned that they are getting rid of a Fabtech rod (I think
 Brandon) a few days ago.  Why?  Is there a superior method for crossover
 steering?
 Can anybody tell me where I can buy steering parts that will allow me to run
 the IFS box in its current location after a solid axle swap?
 TIA,
 Rick in NC
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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:01:30 +0000
 From: "shaun"  Subject: Front Differential Temperatures
 This will sound strange, but, how warm should the front differential
 on an IFS 1st Gen 4Runner get when the hubs are NOT locked and when
 the vehicle is just driving around in 2WD???  The reason I ask is
 that I have noticed that my front differential gets hot to the
 touch merely from driving around.  Is this just the heat being
 radiated from the engine or could it be that perhaps a wheel bearing
 or something in the spindle area is developing friction and warming
 up the whole thing?  I warned that this would sound strange!
 Maybe people could feel the front diff for me after driving
 around and see if it is hot.  Thanks.
 Shaun, Colo Springs, Colo 1988
 4Runner V6 SR5 Auto Tranny
 Address: trinity@codenet.net
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