Toyota 4x4 digest:       Thursday, June 25 1998       Volume 01 : Number 902
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 Re: Power Antenna
 Re: Strange Noise
 More Newbie 4Runner Questions
 Puzzling transfer case problem
 FW: RE: MOTOR REBUILD
 Re: Toy4x4 List tests sports cars for Dateline -Reply
 Holy Crap  and Injector Cleaning 22re
 Re: More Newbie 4Runner Questions
 K&N
 Re: Puzzling transfer case problem
 Re: Holy Crap  and Injector Cleaning 22re
 springs
 Re: Holy Crap  and Injector Cleaning 22re
 RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 RE: Holy Crap  and Injector Cleaning 22re
 Re: Toyota 4x4: Jacobs ignition
 RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 new to list
 Parts in SF Bay Area, master cylinder
 hedder for sale.. also my truck
 New bio
 1st gear - 91 V6 Extra
 Re: Toy4x4 List tests sports cars for Dateline
 Rancho RS9000 4-sale
 [none]
 FW: Mail failure
 looking for some parts.
 fiberglass beds
 Strange Problems
 Oil?
 re:shocks/snorkel
 Clutch Ques.
 Re: Oil?
 RE LC Header
 Re: Oil?
 20r head on a 22r block
 Re: Oil?
 Re: Ouch-Bad 22REC-Ouch...
 Electric lockers for Toyota Axles
 1977 20r head ob 1981 22r block
 Electric lockers for Toyota Axles
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:16:33 -0700 (PDT)
 From: TrailDogg@webtv.net (~Trail Dogg~)
 Subject: Re: Power Antenna
 take out the plastic inerfender, that should be enough.
 i took 2 fenders and both doors of my 81 i am parting out in about 30
 minuits.
 darren sinkey
 traildogg@webtv.net
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:26:18 -0700
 From: Andy Ramm  Subject: Re: Strange Noise
 One other thought on this, have you done a valve adjustment
 on the truck?  I believe the Chilton manual (just got one
 yesterday, best $14 you can spend) recommends doing this
 every 70k miles.  You can do it yourself, though on a V6 it
 may be a bit time consuming.  The Chilton book has pretty
 good instructions.
 Since I've done valve adjustments a dozen times on my MGs,
 I'd probably tackle this myself, but if you're unsure, a
 good mechanic can handle this for you easily.
 YMMV, hope this helps.
 Cheers,
 Andy
 Keith & Christy Campbell wrote:>> On initial startup of my SR5 V6 4Runner there is a clatter (120K).> There is also a high pitch belt whine associated with the AirConditioner> (ie it goes away when I turn off the AC).  The noises settle down after> the engine has been operating for a few minutes.  I am wondering if it> is the AC Clutch or possibly the water pump, could be anything that is> turning I suppose.  TIA, and please post to my email address directly,> Thanks.>> -->               Later,>>              Keith>>        - Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum ->> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:41:34 -0700
 From: Andy Ramm  Subject: More Newbie 4Runner Questions
 I sent a message yesterday to the list with some of these
 questions, but never saw the message appear.  Appologies in
 advance if anything here is repeated.  I just bought a '94
 4Runner SR5 V6 with 5-speed and am wondering about the
 following:
 Spark Plugs:  I've had good luck with Bosch platinum in the
 past on other cars.  Is there a recommended good plug for
 the 4Runner?
 Plug wires:  The wires on my truck are a spindly 5mm.  Can
 this be right?  Should I leave 'em alone or get some good
 7mm silicone wires?
 Front hubs:  I've heard that changing the front hubs to the
 manual locking type is a good idea to reduce wear on the
 front CV joints and diff as well as increase mileage in
 2-wheel drive mode.... True?  Recommended manufacturers?
 Tire pressure:  What's the tire pressure recommendations for
 31x10.5x15 tires on stock rims both for daily driving and
 trail driving?  There seems to be no indication on my
 tires.  (goodyear wrangler whatevers)
 Recommended upgrades:  Anything glaring that should be
 upgraded from factory specs, added, changed, just as a
 matter of course?
 Performance tweaks:  Any simple and inexpensive performance
 tweaks?  Not looking for monsterous horsepower, just a
 smooth running, reliable engine with decent power. (yes, I
 am doing a complete tune up and oil/filter change first)
 Intake:  I also assume that the K&N drop in filter is the
 hot-ticket.  But has anybody tried the K&N filtercharger
 free-flow unit that replaces the airbox and attaches
 directly to the air flow meter?  What were the results?
 Thanks in advance!
 Andy
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:51:31 -0700
 From: Andy Ramm  Subject: Puzzling transfer case problem
 One more thing on my '94 4Runner, V6 5-speed.
 It shifts in to 4H and 4L with no problems whatsoever (4H on
 the fly, and of course, 4L from a stop with the clutch
 depressed)
 However, the truck is very reluctant to shift back into
 2-wheel drive mode.  Basically, when I shift back to 2 wheel
 mode, (doesn't matter if I'm moving, stopped, clutch in/our
 or whatever) it won't actually shift back unless I'm going
 less than 15-20 MPH and I have to be turning at least a
 little.
 Is this normal?  I do plan to replace the xfer case oil with
 Redline MT-90 (and the 5-speed too), but is there another
 adjustment I should make?  What's the deal?
 Thanks in advance to all who can help!
 Cheers,
 Andy
 '94 4Runner SR5 V6
 '67 MGB GT vintage race car
 '69 MGB roadtser organ donor
 '72 MGB roadster
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:09:15 -0500
 From: "Brian.Gallus"  Subject: FW: RE: MOTOR REBUILD> Michael Wrote (a while ago!!) :> and I've got prices of $875 and $950. This would be for all the> machining> work, new pistons (0.030 over stock)> and whatever else the block needs, reconditioning the head and> whatever> valves need> replacing, cam chain and whatever else the do with a typical long> block> rebuild.>> So am I getting a good deal or screwed?> ***********************************************>> Well, I'm in the middle of this right now and here's a breakdown of> what I've spent thus far:> Machine work: $469.00> valve job, new valve guides/seals, shave head, bore .020, magnaflux> block, pressure test head, R&R pistons, turn crank/rods, freeze plugs,> etc, etc.>> Complete rebuild kit from LC Engineering:  $699.00> Pistons, rings, gaskets, water pump, timing chain, oil pump, bearings,> etc, etc.  Complete kit..  LC recommended against balancing because> they say their kit is very close from the box, and I'm doing a low RPM> motor.>> Cam/rockers/springs:  $400> Since I'm building a 22r into a 22re, I needed a new cam.  LC's street> performer cam with new rockers and springs for the hell of it (~140K> on stock springs)>> Total thus far about:  $1600, and I haven't even started the intake> work yet!!!  Still have about $300 left to spend on this baby> (injectors, paint, etc.).  My goal was to stay under the cost of a> reman long block.>> Oh, I'm doing the assembly myself...>> For comparitive purposes, I did shop around.  Complete long blocks> ranged from $1800-$1950 locally.  ATK sells 'em for about $2400.  All> with warrantees, but with stock specs (if lucky...), so there was NO> performance gain at all.  Plus, I wasn't really sure what I was> getting - as far a quality of componentry, etc.>> The LC rebuild kit is actually $50 less than I could get around here,> with better components IMHO.  The machine work was more than expected,> but had the crank done and rods, too, by a very reputable shop.>> So, for <$1K, I think you're doing great!!!  Be sure to double check> that they are replacing all of the necessary moving parts, though> (pistons, rings, bearings, oil and water pump, timing chain)...  Heck,> that's only $250 more than I paid for my rebuild kit, and you're> getting assembly as well!!!>> Hope this helps!!!> bkg>> Brian K. Gallus> Technical Analyst - Dayton Hudson Corp.> (612) 375-7013> Brian.Gallus@dhcmail.com> ============================================================================
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:24:47 -7 GMT
 From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III"  Subject: Re: Toy4x4 List tests sports cars for Dateline -Reply> From: Rob Ditusa >> BRILLIANT!!!!!!!>> Now the question is......who's on the team???? :)> i'm am the technical lead.  i specialize in all wheel drive sports
 cars.  i will be doing the RTI test, approach and departure angle
 tests, and winch capability testing...
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 ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:21:30 -0700
 From: Scott Muir  Subject: Holy Crap  and Injector Cleaning 22re
 Just finishing off with the whole injector cleaning thing I went through last
 weekend.
 I was driving my truck 'real easy like' because of a small bolt inside that I
 knew I only had in finger tight.  (a little 10 mm that anchors a fuel line
 bracket to the rail...D'oh!)  Well I took care of that last night and then got
 to drive with my foot in it.  I am really happy.  Feels like someone added
 another 1/2 an engine in the compartment.  By this there was apparently
 something wrong with my 4 banger.
 I suspect I had a lazy injector.   There was a little bit of evidence of this
 with how easily the cleaner would drain though an 'open' injector.
 Here's what it was like before.  5th gear was lame.  If you put the peddle to
 the floor, the engine would just laugh and say 'Oh you think so do you?'  When
 pulling away from a stop, I had a pulsing on the clutch that was like non-linear
 drag.  I was kinda worried I had botched the clutch job last summer and it was
 finally catching up with me.  At idle the engine sounded like it was running
 smoothly, but there was a slight and regular  shaking of it.
 All gone now.  Smooth idle.  Clutch pulse gone.  Actually pulls in 5th! wahoo!
 (it pulls only a bit, it is a 4, but it pulls)  After reading the stuff on the
 knock sensor, maybe smoothing out the vibes has allowed the timing to advance
 more???
 Engine lugging seems to have dropped a few hundred RPM as well.  I sort of have
 a bottom end now.
 I don't know if this is 100% injector related because I did clean out the air
 channels too.  The cleaner may also have unstuck a valve (not likely a problem
 since I did the valvetrain last summer too) or seated a valve properly.
 Suffice to say, this was well worth my time and effort.  Can't wait to do the
 plugs and the oil to see what extra I get out of that too.  Anyone know what a
 plug in a lean cylinder might look like??
 S.
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:28:59 -0400
 From: John Smith  Subject: Re: More Newbie 4Runner Questions
 Andy Writes --> I sent a message yesterday to the list with some of these
 questions, but never saw the message appear.  Appologies in
 advance if anything here is repeated.  I just bought a '94
 4Runner SR5 V6 with 5-speed and am wondering about the
 following:  Spark Plugs:Is there a recommended good plug for
 the 4Runner?>general concensus on the list seems to be Nippondenso
 Plug wires: Should I leave 'em alone or get some good
 7mm silicone wires?>I have tried "high performance" wires and did not notice a>bit of difference
 Front hubs:  I've heard that changing the front hubs to the
 manual locking type is a good idea. True?
 Recommended manufacturers?>Yes, it is true and you probably can't beat Warn for>aftermarket hubs
 Tire pressure:  What's the tire pressure recommendations for
 31x10.5x15 tires on stock rims both for daily driving and
 trail driving?>I run 30 on road and 20 off, everyone has an opinion on>this topic so try different variations and observe wear
 Recommended upgrades:  Anything glaring that should be
 upgraded from factory specs, added, changed, just as a
 matter of course?>Chrome everything possible!, rid yourself of that useless>thermostat, and of course lower the truck. Just Kidding...>Really if your $$$ is endless so are the upgrades. I am>personally going with a locker for the rear first, then>possibly new gears, larger tires, front locker, and a lift.
 Performance tweaks:  Any simple and inexpensive performance
 tweaks?>A header and hiflow exhaust seem to be one of the cheapest>and quickest ways to better performance. I got the Dynomax>Super Turbo system and noticed an increase. I am sure a>header would produce even more noticable increase.
 Intake:  I also assume that the K&N drop in filter is the
 hot-ticket.  But has anybody tried the K&N filtercharger
 free-flow unit that replaces the airbox and attaches
 directly to the air flow meter?  What were the results?>I know lots of folks who use them and swear they notice>an increase in power. Thats all I can say.
 Congradulations on your recent purchase and welcome to
 the Toyota family.
 John Smith
 CSO IT Staff IBM Government Systems
 Bethesda, MD 20817
 Smithjn@us.ibm.com
 TieLine 262.1956  OutsideLines 301.803.1956  800.333.6705  Fax 301.803.2877
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:40:01 -0500
 From: ALEX OBROCK  Subject: K&N
 Hey David,
 I got a 4Runner 90 sr5 V6, I need to know what K&N has for this
 particular truck.  Can you fax me those few pages?? (405)844-1178 fax or
 just tell me trough an e-mail message...deferred method fax.. ha,ha.
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:42:04 -0400
 From: John Smith  Subject: Re: Puzzling transfer case problem
 Andy writes--> It shifts in to 4H and 4L with no problems whatsoever (4H on
 the fly, and of course, 4L from a stop with the clutch
 depressed)
 However, the truck is very reluctant to shift back into
 2-wheel drive mode.  Basically, when I shift back to 2 wheel
 mode, (doesn't matter if I'm moving, stopped, clutch in/our
 or whatever) it won't actually shift back unless I'm going
 less than 15-20 MPH and I have to be turning at least a
 little.
 Is this normal?  I do plan to replace the xfer case oil with
 Redline MT-90 (and the 5-speed too), but is there another
 adjustment I should make?  What's the deal?
 It sounds like your are experienceing driveline bind. Hopefully you are not
 driveing in 4WD on dry pavement. If you are not then just backup about 15
 feet in a straight line and you should be able to easily shift into 2WD.
 If you are using 4WD on dry pavement, stop now or you face large repair
 bills in the near future.
 John Smith
 CSO IT Staff IBM Government Systems
 Bethesda, MD 20817
 Smithjn@us.ibm.com
 TieLine 262.1956  OutsideLines 301.803.1956  800.333.6705  Fax 301.803.2877
 owner-toy4x4@tlca.org on 06/25/98 01:23:22 PM
 Please respond to toy4x4@tlca.org
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 cc:
 Subject: Puzzling transfer case problem
 Thanks in advance to all who can help!
 Cheers,
 Andy
 '94 4Runner SR5 V6
 '67 MGB GT vintage race car
 '69 MGB roadtser organ donor
 '72 MGB roadster
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
 From: TrailDogg@webtv.net (~Trail Dogg~)
 Subject: Re: Holy Crap  and Injector Cleaning 22re
 lean plug will be kinda white
 put in NGK gap um at .031
 darren sinkey
 traildogg@webtv.net
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:42:26 -0700
 From: corey  Subject: springs
 anyone know how I can get ahold of alcan?or prices of rear springs?my
 front NWOR's are fine,the back SUCKS!!!!Anyone try
 National???cmewheel@linex.com
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:49:14 -0400
 From: "Dr. Karl Bellve"  Subject: Re: Holy Crap  and Injector Cleaning 22re
 ~Trail Dogg~ wrote:>> lean plug will be kinda white>> put in NGK gap um at .031> Electrode could be eroded too. Mine were.
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 Cheers,
 Karl Bellve, Ph.D.                   ICQ# 13956200
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 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-6514
 Fax:   (508) 856-1840
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:46:52 -0700
 From: "Smell My Feet"  Subject: RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 I am looking for some headers that would help my  91 toyota 4Runner.  I am
 also looking for some
 Rancho 9000's adjustable shocks with the remote.  I am also planning on
 putting some new rims
 And tires for my truck.  I want to go for the swamper look but not modify
 the height of my truck much.
 If anyone can help me with a place to go for some of the things that Im
 looking for please let me know.
 At the moment I am running a k&n filter charger
 a complete Jacobs ignition system and
 a flowmaster dual exhaust.
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:53:55 -0700 (PDT)
 From: TrailDogg@webtv.net (~Trail Dogg~)
 Subject: RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 what do you think of the jacobs ing.?
 what jacobs system do you have?
 darren sinkey
 traildogg@webtv.net
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:12:14 -0500 (US Eastern Standard Time)
 From: "Ebersold, Chance J"  Subject: RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 I have a jacobs omni pak and wish I hadn't wasted my money
 on it.  I have noticed no performace gains or mpg gains.  I
 wish I had spent the money on headers instead.
 Chance
 On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:53:55 -0700 (PDT) ~Trail Dogg~
 wrote:> what do you think of the jacobs ing.?> what jacobs system do you have?>>>>> darren sinkey> traildogg@webtv.net>>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:19:39 -0700
 From: "Devin Noel"  Subject: RE: Holy Crap  and Injector Cleaning 22re> plug in a lean cylinder might look like??
 In the very back of my Haynes manual there is a color page with pix of the
 most common plug problems (lean, rich, oil, carbon...) in the back of all of
 the Haynes manuals, think they are in the Chilton's too.
 Devin Noel		'86 Longbed mid-rebuild
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:29:29 -0500 (CDT)
 From: "Bruce Burden"  Subject: Re: Toyota 4x4: Jacobs ignition>>  I have a jacobs omni pak and wish I hadn't wasted my money> on it.  I have noticed no performace gains or mpg gains.  I> I wonder how well well (little) fancy aftermarket ignitions
 would help the 3.4L V-6's with their 3 coils (1 per pair of
 cylinders). Seems pretty unlikely to me.
 But, Splitfire's, now! Yeah, they would really do the
 tricke! Sure!
 Bruce
 :-)
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
 From: TrailDogg@webtv.net (~Trail Dogg~)
 Subject: RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 thanks i have heard that about 7 out of 10 times,think i"ll save my
 money, sorry you spent yours, i thought they had a 100% money back.
 darren sinkey
 traildogg@webtv.net
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:31:46
 From: tsbrewers@usa.net
 Subject: new to list
 I've been having problems posting to the list.  (I'm new to this whole thing.  Please Email me at tsbrewers@usa.net if this does post.  Thank you very much.
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:17:13 -0700
 From: "Richard Aguinsky"  Subject: Parts in SF Bay Area, master cylinder
 I noticed that by shopping arround and calling LA or
 other places, parts are MUCH cheaper than in the SF bay
 area, is there any place in particular in the San Francisco
 bay area to buy Toyota parts for a good price as in the
 east coast or LA?
 I'm currently looking for the brake master cylinder for
 my '87 4runner and for the timing chain kit.
 so far, for the master cylinder, kragen is the lowest
 price, only $52, but it comes without the reservoir.
 is it difficult to replace? the cap is really
 thanx for any tips.
 rich '87 4runner
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:54:17 -0400
 From: Dave Christen  Subject: hedder for sale.. also my truck
 Hey guys I hate to do it but I'm getting rid of my 1st love my '88 Toy Truck
 I get the feeling that the dealer won't appriciate all the hard work I've
 put into it But anyway it's not a 4X$4 it's more of a sport truck concerned
 with speed. I built the 22r in it and it has a cam and ported heads but I
 put the factory exhaust manifold on it But I have a Hedman Hedder for it.
 Never used, (I lost the box) if anyone wants it or the truck let me know,
 the truck needs work (body only) I've installed bucket seats in it out of a
 CRX, it has a sport suspension, and 14X7 American Racing Wheels with Kelly
 Sport white letters. It could be a real sweet ride I just can't afford the
 the speeding tickets. Ohh it has a new exhaust a Thrush Glasspak w/ duel
 crome tips, it's kinda quit till about 3500 rpm then it's kinda loud. I also
 have a replacement clutch, it doesn't need it, I just have one here in case.
 Sony CD player. It's not the best ride in town looks wise but I've beaten
 305 Camaro's no lie. No BS here I'll tell ya straight up trust me. I figure
 the hedder is worth $100, and that's what I'll take. The truck has real
 light tailgate damage, hardly noticeable, but the driver side front needs a
 marker light and mabey a fender. It's not real bad trust me. Well mail me if
 you have any questions ohh 126,000mi and truck 20,000 on engine and I have
 the old block, 2 heads 22r and a 20r plus like 3 cams rocker assy's and
 other stuff if you need anything msg me.
 L8ter,
 Dave
 davewc@iname.com
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:34:44 +0000
 From: Tim Dziechowski  Subject: New bio
 Name:					Tim Dziechowski
 City & State:				Atkinson, NH
 Country:				USA
 E-mail address:			tdziechowski@xionics.com, timd@shore.net
 Toyota (s) year & model:		92 4x4 extracab pickup 22RE 5spd
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):	N
 Age:					49
 Occupation:				Software Consultant
 Marital Status:			Yes, dear...
 Hobbies:				Wrenching, carpentry, offroading
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:
 Web search for "Toyota AND Bilstein"
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 The truck is bone stock except for IFS truss, Borla catback, K&N filter,
 and BFG 30x9.50 AT's.  Most of my limited $x$ budget goes on my CJ-7, mainly
 because the CJ is cheaper to build up.  The pickup doesn't get much
 because, um, well, it just doesn't break!  My last pickup was a '78 20R SR5
 which I drove until the frame rotted out.
 Recognize a lot of folks here from the digests i've perused at offroad.com.
 I've been on the offroad list since shortly after Stefan took it over, and
 used to be on the Toyota list back when Todd Haverstock ran it out of
 Brigham Young U.
 My local club is Deepwoods Extreme 4x4 Club.
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:17:27 -0700
 From: "Phil Markowitz"  Subject: 1st gear - 91 V6 Extra
 First of all....this is not a "normal thing" by any means.  My 91 V6 Extra
 has never suffered this problem.  But, a friend did have this problem and at
 the time the Toyota dealer rebuilt his transmission two times before they
 tore apart the shifter and found the rubber shifter "seat" was broken.
 So...try this, take apart your shifter and take a look.  If the seat is
 broken it's a $10 dollar part and a half an hours' time.  If not, something
 more expensive is and a lot more pain is in order.  Good luck.
 Phil Markowitz
 Stock '91 4X4 V6 Extra cab
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:15:35 -0700
 From: Greg Sue  Subject: Re: Toy4x4 List tests sports cars for Dateline
 No, I did not send it to Dateline.  I didn't think they'd "get" it.
 Yes Vic, I have too much time on my hands!
 Greg Sue
 no-clue@mindless.com
 http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9948/
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:20:29 -0400
 From: Chris Knight  Subject: Rancho RS9000 4-sale
 I'm lifting my truck sometime in the next 2 weeks and will have a set of
 stock length RS9000 lying around. They fit the solid axle vehicles
 (84-85). I got them from Tim Stuckey another list member, I think he had
 an 84 mine is an 85. Poly bushings and no boots. There is a little rust
 near the shafts but other than that they are a good pair of used shocks.
 If anyone is interested let me know...$50 + shipping. I live in South
 Carolina and like I said it will be a couple weeks till they're off.
 On a different note I saw an add for a new cheap wax and it shows a Heep
 Cherokee driving over all kind of small saplings and everything else in
 it's path (trying to say how tough their wax is). I don't really mind
 this but all it does is give the left wing more ammo to take away our
 rights. If we can get all the companies that don't have anything to do
 with the enviormental issues to stop shooting us in the foot then maybe
 we could get somewhere. Just an opinion.
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 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:41:48
 From: TIM BREWERS  Subject: [none]
 Name: Tim Brewers
 City & State: Mankato,  MN
 Country:US
 E-mail address:tsbrewers@usa.net
 Toyota (s) year & model:89 4x4 ext cab v-6
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):NO
 Age:25
 Occupation:General Contractor
 Marital Status:Single
 Hobbies:Hunting fishing golfing any sports
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:surfing
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:90,000 miles,air,cruise
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:45:37 -0700
 From: "Smell My Feet"  Subject: FW: Mail failure
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 To:	toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject:	RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 Date:	1998-06-25 15:46
 Priority: 3
 Message ID: B5D5B7E1640CD211B1D300805FE2251C
 Conversation ID: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 I am looking for some headers that would help my  91 toyota 4Runner.  I am
 also looking for some Rancho 9000's adjustable shocks with the remote.  I am
 also planning on putting some new rims And tires for my truck.  I want to go
 for the swamper look but not modify the height of my truck much.
 If anyone can help me with a place to go for some of the things that Im
 looking for please let me know.
 At the moment I am running a k&n filter charger
 a complete Jacobs ignition system and
 a flowmaster dual exhaust.
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:47:01 -0700
 From: "Smell My Feet"  Subject: looking for some parts.
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 To:	toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject:	RE: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 Date:	1998-06-25 15:46
 Priority: 3
 Message ID: B5D5B7E1640CD211B1D300805FE2251C
 Conversation ID: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #900
 I am looking for some headers that would help my  91 toyota 4Runner.  I am
 also looking for some Rancho 9000's adjustable shocks with the remote.  I am
 also planning on putting some new rims And tires for my truck.  I want to go
 for the swamper look but not modify the height of my truck much.
 If anyone can help me with a place to go for some of the things that Im
 looking for please let me know.
 At the moment I am running a k&n filter charger
 a complete Jacobs ignition system and
 a flowmaster dual exhaust.
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:33:43 -1000 (HST)
 From: "R.J."  Subject: fiberglass beds
 I have a 1986 4x4 standard cab with the 22RET.  I am in the
 process of getting the bodywork done, and want to find a fiberglass bed for
 it.  Does anyone know of anywhere in Indiana or surrounding areas that sell
 fiberglass replacement beds at a reasonable price??   Thanks for any info
 yoou might have.
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 R.J. Merrell
 Indiana
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:33:05 EDT
 From: DGRM125@aol.com
 Subject: Strange Problems
 I own a 1987 4X4 P-U extra cab, 4 cyl. FI.
 First, when I am driving along and I hit a little bump or take a turn with a
 change in the road I hear a springy sound like a squeak.
 Another thing is I wired up additional interior lights and routed both
 courtesy switches to an illuminated on/off/on rocker switch. Before hooking up
 my positive source for my lights on the switch, I tried the switch through a
 ground to a light which had power running to it. When I switched it on the
 lights I was wiring went on. When I switched it off they went off, but when I
 switched to the other on which was not wired and the LEDs on the switch came
 on without a positive charge. How is that?
 Any help is appreciated.
 Thanks
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 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:34:50 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Todd Johansson  Subject: Oil?
 Hey there! My rig is a little over 154,000 miles young.  I am wondering
 what oil viscosity or type i will have the best results with.  I have
 tried synthetics.  My engine doesn't seem to like them to much.  I either
 have good pressure at idle or good pressure at engine speed.  I can't seem
 to get both.  Right now with 15w-40 Castrol Syntec, I have the later.  I
 usually stay in the conventional 10w-40 to the 15w-40 range where I have
 good results.  Can I do better??
 A friend of mine ran 20w-50 in an older 22R and claimed to have "great"
 results.
 I hope I haven't opened a can of worms on the oil issue.  Also I don't
 want to beat a dead horse.  But, Any help would be great!
 Thank you !
 |    o__         Todd "TMAN" Johansson   TLCA #6931
 |___/_|_\__      '84 22R (w/Bosche Plat's, K&N, MSD coil, Grant GT,
 [ _ __|_ _ |     Dynomax Super Turbo, Hella H3's, KC Daylighters)
 '(_)   '(_)      "This is who we are, the time is near."
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:43:17 -0700
 From: "Raymond Kumar"  Subject: re:shocks/snorkel
 Well I got my warranty rs9000 in today(bottom eye broke) and decided to
 take the adjuster knob off and lube the piston and seal the knob to prevent
 the siezing I've had in the past.Guess what?? Rancho doesn't seal it at
 all...this is no problem but the local aftermarket gods say the siezing
 happens from a lack of use(turning).Upon checking the rest of shocks I
 found the pistons were rusted...I mean really rusted so how can a lack of
 turning cause this I ask??? We'll see how much they value my business when
 I ask for warranty on the remaining three shocks.To be continued.
 On a brighter note I had the Safari Snorkel (which has been sitting in the
 corner for months)installed last night,we did not get a chance to finish
 plumbing in the fittings because I have to refit the stock air box in place
 of the Downey street legal system which currently resides under the hood
 but the fit and finish are great. The unit looks great as well, I'll post
 details on my web page which is under
 construction.http//:www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9776/
 RayKumar
 854Runner
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 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:30:21 -0500
 From: Michael Woodruff  Subject: Clutch Ques.
 BTW.  Thanks to Tony for answering about the Alcan stuff.  So, I got my
 NEW Downey Super Clutch and acess. from the brown army today.  A buddy of
 mine and I are going to do the install shortly.  I'm curious, are there any
 seal's (ie., rear main) that can be replaced while the tranny is out?  Any
 other ideas or maintanance that I should do while this is underway?  85
 $runner/22re
 THANKS, again!
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:33:22 -0700
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Oil?
 Oil pressure is a function of
 1) Initial pressure
 2) Oil viscosity
 3) Resistance through bearing system
 As the parts of an engine wear gaps between main bearings, rod bearings and the
 crank increase slowly over time. The oil pump itself also wears slightly
 reducing it's output a little. At an idle you see a lower pressure on an older
 engine because the pump is putting out a little less and the oil can travel
 faster through the larger openings in the crank bearings. As RPM rise so should
 oil pressure until a small valve releases excess pressure back into the pan.
 Most oil pumps can reach Mx pressure at between 1,200-2,000 RPM's. After that
 only some of the oil goes into the engine, the rest returns to the pan. Normal
 engines need about 10 PSI per 1,000 RPM. So at 2,000 you need 20 psi at 4,000
 you need 40 psi. If you suspect your bearings are starting to wear you can
 switch to a thicker oil like 40w (not 10w-40). This can also reduce (slightly)
 oil usage through the rings. On engines above 200K that are on there last legs
 you can use 50w to keep the pressure up. I have heard of people using 80-90w oil
 in the engine to stop oil burning before selling a truck, but I think that would
 starve the engine during startup.
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html> Hey there! My rig is a little over 154,000 miles young.  I am wondering> what oil viscosity or type i will have the best results with.
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 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:32:51 -0500
 From: Michael Woodruff  Subject: RE LC Header
 Let us know how the install goes and your impression of the header.  I'm
 planning on buying this header too.
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:50:59 -0700
 From: Ken Emanuel  Subject: Re: Oil?
 Chris Geiger wrote:> If you suspect your bearings are starting to wear you can> switch to a thicker oil like 40w (not 10w-40). This can also reduce (slightly)> oil usage through the rings. On engines above 200K that are on there last legs> you can use 50w to keep the pressure up. I have heard of people using 80-90w oil> in the engine to stop oil burning before selling a truck, but I think that would> starve the engine during startup.> I've always run 10W-30 in the winter (thinner oil) and 20W-50 (thicker)
 in the summer.  I guess this is just a "redneck rule-of-thumb."  Is this
 reasonable for a moderate California climate?
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:04:27 -0700
 From: "Burton"  Subject: 20r head on a 22r block
 Has anybody done this swap? What my be some problems or tricks when doing
 this
 Thanks
 K.C. Burton
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:12:58 -0700
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Oil?
 Sure why not. Just try to stick to the same brand of oil.> I've always run 10W-30 in the winter (thinner oil) and 20W-50 (thicker)> in the summer.  I guess this is just a "redneck rule-of-thumb."  Is this> reasonable for a moderate California climate?
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:36:43 -0700
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: Ouch-Bad 22REC-Ouch...
 eric@qnis.net wrote:>> The local bone yards want nearly a thousand dollars for a good motor. I can> get a remanufactured motor from "Bonded" remanufacturers for about eleven> hundred but they tell me they cut all their cranks .020. I asked tons of> questions and everything sounded reasonable except that. I guess it makes> it easier in a mass production shop, but I don't like the idea of a crank> cut that far down...
 Well, you didn't hear it from me, but a "friend" of mine, we'll call him
 "Slim", has seen the insides of a few Bondead 22R motors for repairs. He
 advises to stay away from them.
 Just passing on some friendly info.
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 Manhattan Beach, CA                  http://www.off-road.com/~toytech/
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 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:38:51 -0400
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: Electric lockers for Toyota Axles
 I got this information from another list.
 http://www.toyota4x4.com
 Email Ray...he is the parts manager and very knowledgeable about the electric locker conversion. This company has been putting factory electric lockers in Toyota 8" axles.
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:44:57 -0700
 From: "Burton"  Subject: 1977 20r head ob 1981 22r block
 Does the head have to be decked if so how muck?
 Thanks
 K.C Burton
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 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:50:56 -0400
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: Electric lockers for Toyota Axles
 I got this information from another list.
 I think it is Raymond Kumar is what he is talking about.
 He is in this list.
 Is this right Raymond?
 http://www.toyota4x4.com
 Email Ray...he is the parts manager and very knowledgeable about the electric locker conversion. This company has been putting factory electric lockers in Toyota 8" axles.
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