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 Toyota 4x4 digest:      Wednesday, April 22 1998      Volume 01 : Number 823
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 Re: Hydraulic steering rams.
 Re: Hydraulic steering rams.
 RE: Hydraulic steering rams.
 Re: 2" receiver hitch in front
 Re: Hydraulic steering rams.
 RE: Hydraulic steering rams.
 Re: Hydraulic steering rams.
 Re: lighter problems
 Re: lighter problems
 Bump Steer
 Front end vibration
 3.0 L Supercharger for 4Runner
 Re: Problems in first
 RE: Drive Train Direct
 suspension, steering, coils, questions
 Frank Raines Park
 Aluminum wheels
 Re: ADD ideas
 INAPPROPRIATE subjects
 Re: Exhaust manifold stud- gone
 Re: Stripped head bolt
 Re: Exhaust Noises
 Re: lighter problems
 Re: suspension, steering, coils, questions
 Bio
 RE: reversible wheel
 Re: INAPPROPRIATE subjects
 Re: Problems in first
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:47:11 -0400
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Re: Hydraulic steering rams.
 Guess you bring the wife with you on these outings?
 Darren
 RUNAR WROTE:
 Only truck damage was a 1" cut in front tire sidewall (fixed with
 tampons for limp home mode), and I saw few weeks ago that the a rear
 tire sidewall had almost riped, is damage that is, and still is.  I
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:47:16 EDT
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: Hydraulic steering rams.
 In a message dated 98-04-22 19:29:26 EDT, you write:> Well, sorry for the lenght of this, but I guess that this is intressting>  stuff.
 naww... this is getting interesting....  But, his was different.  I don't
 think he has power steering (didn't get to look too long - ouring rain).  The
 drag link itself had the hoses coming out of it, & I figured that it was
 geared somehow in there to operate the ram.  This seems like a really great
 way to augment the Toy steering system.
 I am pretty sure totally hydraulic steering is not DOT legal in the US, but
 hydraulic assist would work.>  BTW, David,  Weren't we someday talking about flares....?  How did that>  end, did it ever end....;-))  I'm kinda overstressed these days...
 Well, he is not using that vehicle (Blazer was in question).  Actually, he is
 buying an old Jeep CJ5 from me.  He is going to use the front clib & front
 half of a CJ7 tub & put the CJ5 tub (windshield frame & all) right behind
 that.  He will end up with a 4 door Jeep on 44's, and built to the top...
 Anyway, he should be able to get wide enought flares for the Jeep(s) here in
 the states.  Thanks for checking back though!
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:59:39 -0000
 From: runars@isbank.is
 Subject: RE: Hydraulic steering rams.
 Obs, sorry.  meant plugs.  (you english speaking fellows call it that,
 right...?
 Cheers,
 Runar (wifeless actually).> -----Original Message-----> From:	Darren Floen [SMTP:dfloen@Quetico.tbaytel.net]> Sent:	Thursday, April 23, 1998 12:47 AM> To:	toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject:	Re: Hydraulic steering rams.>> Guess you bring the wife with you on these outings?>> Darren>> RUNAR WROTE:> > Only truck damage was a 1" cut in front tire sidewall (fixed with> tampons for limp home mode), and I saw few weeks ago that the a rear> tire sidewall had almost riped, is damage that is, and still is.  I>> ======================================================================> ======> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:57:26 -7 GMT
 From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III"  Subject: Re: 2" receiver hitch in front> From: "Jones, Travis" >> Has anyone put a 2" receiver hitch in the front of their toy?  I have> planned on getting a receiver that you would bolt to the bottom of> existing rear bumper and bolt it to the front cross member of the frame,> haven't found an actual receiver kit to bolt on the front as I have seen> on full size trucks.  I want one up front to either put a hitch haul in> front, or a winch (mounted on a male 2" platform), or whatever.  Any> feedback for/against appreciated.> i will be putting one one my in 90 4runner.  this is going to be very well
 protected from the twisting forces that the winch i'm hooking up to it will
 be putting on it.
 my welder said taking out where the tow hooks bolt onto, and the loop on the
 other side of the frame.  mount a crossmember to it and then weld the
 receiver onto it.  then bolt the hook and loop somewhere close to the
 original position...
 expect a few pixs...  work being done around may 2nd.
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:02:49 -0400
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Re: Hydraulic steering rams.
 Plugs,tampons,......same thing.I am finding new uses for many different
 things on my Toyota lately.
 Darren
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 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:12:00 -0000
 From: runars@isbank.is
 Subject: RE: Hydraulic steering rams.> In a message dated 98-04-22 19:29:26 EDT, you write:>>> Well, sorry for the lenght of this, but I guess that this is> intressting>>  stuff.>> naww... this is getting interesting....  But, his was different.  I> don't> think he has power steering (didn't get to look too long - ouring> rain).  The> drag link itself had the hoses coming out of it, & I figured that it> was> geared somehow in there to operate the ram.  This seems like a really> great> way to augment the Toy steering system.> I am pretty sure totally hydraulic steering is not DOT legal in the> US, but> hydraulic assist would work.> []  Well those family truck rams are assist. Only the racers use the
 hydraulic only stuff, and that ain't steet legal.
 Effects on the steering is a slightly slower steering, you sometimes
 feel a little fluid starvation, when turning fast at idle.
 As to your friends FORD, then there are in existance hydraulic rams to
 add to manual steering systems.  You connect them streight to a pump I
 belive.  They sence the movement and aid it.  This was common on
 agricultural tractors from the east block (Zetor, Ursus), and some
 dinosor trucks, that didn't have power steering from the factory.  Those
 never worked very well to my taste (I worked some 8 summers driving a
 tractor).
 Yeach, btw, those rams where usually fitted side by side to the drag
 link, guess you just might have missed it.
 cheers, Runar.>>>  BTW, David,  Weren't we someday talking about flares....?  How did> that>>  end, did it ever end....;-))  I'm kinda overstressed these days...>> Well, he is not using that vehicle (Blazer was in question).> Actually, he is> buying an old Jeep CJ5 from me.  He is going to use the front clib &> front> half of a CJ7 tub & put the CJ5 tub (windshield frame & all) right> behind> that.  He will end up with a 4 door Jeep on 44's, and built to the> top...> Anyway, he should be able to get wide enought flares for the Jeep(s)> here in> the states.  Thanks for checking back though!>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> --------> David Moore                                 DRM033@aol.com>                           TLCA #5662>            Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club>               http://www.netmatter.com/traxx> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> -------->>> ======================================================================> ======> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:16:18 -0400
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Re: Hydraulic steering rams.
 My chum's 74 F100 has the same system you mention.He was able to buy
 parts for it from the dealer,so it must be stock.
 Darren
 DRM033 wrote:>> In a message dated 98-04-22 19:29:26 EDT, you write:>>> Well, sorry for the lenght of this, but I guess that this is intressting>>  stuff.>> naww... this is getting interesting....  But, his was different.  I don't> think he has power steering (didn't get to look too long - ouring rain).  The> drag link itself had the hoses coming out of it, & I figured that it was> geared somehow in there to operate the ram.  This seems like a really great> way to augment the Toy steering system.> I am pretty sure totally hydraulic steering is not DOT legal in the US, but> hydraulic assist would work.>>>  BTW, David,  Weren't we someday talking about flares....?  How did that>>  end, did it ever end....;-))  I'm kinda overstressed these days...>> Well, he is not using that vehicle (Blazer was in question).  Actually, he is> buying an old Jeep CJ5 from me.  He is going to use the front clib & front> half of a CJ7 tub & put the CJ5 tub (windshield frame & all) right behind> that.  He will end up with a 4 door Jeep on 44's, and built to the top...> Anyway, he should be able to get wide enought flares for the Jeep(s) here in> the states.  Thanks for checking back though!>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> David Moore                                 DRM033@aol.com>                           TLCA #5662>            Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club>               http://www.netmatter.com/traxx> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:47:08 EDT
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: lighter problems
 In a message dated 98-04-22 18:59:21 EDT, you write:>>  Don't go to the battery, go to the fuse box.> Why not?
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:28:57 -7 GMT
 From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III"  Subject: Re: lighter problems> From: "Martini" >> My other option is to just wire it into the same wiring I ran for the CB> - - I>> ran 10 guage wire straight from the battery.>>> Don't go to the battery, go to the fuse box.> if you want the optimum situation, go straight to the battery, fuse it and
 use the appropriate wire size.  then use a grommet or find an existing hole
 in the firewall.   attach a fuse close to the battery.  you may wanna put a
 fuse by the cig lighter, in case your wiring job get's crimped or damage and
 a short can occur.
 the fuse box may blow too fast or too easy.  this is strickly the lazy to go.
 btw, 10 gauge maybe an overkill...  but if you can afford it, go for it.
 it's just finding stuff to wire it can cause a lot of $$$.   but usually, a
 CB radio doesn't draw that much juice...
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:41:08 -0700
 From: David Fritzsche  Subject: Bump Steer> position the front end. Also if you run a panhard bar, connect it the
 frame on the right and to the axle on the left, opposite from the drag
 link.
 WHAT.....
 Those two should be connected to the axle on the same side and to the
 frame on the same side. Those two may slope a bit, and don't need to be
 parallel to the tie-rod,but those should also be of simlar lenght, and
 must be parallel.Just look under any Coil sprung front truck (80-series,
 Rovers, Early Broncos.....)
 Opps!!! You are right. After I read your post I dug the pictures out to
 see that my memory had played tricks on me. as we all know the memory is
 the second thing to go with age. We changed this thing around so many
 times that I lost track. Drag-link and panhard bar were on the same
 sides and same lenght. But we also found that if the drag link and
 panhard bar were as close as possible to parallel to the tie rod it
 helped a lot.
 David Fritzsche
 1990 v-6
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:44:07 -0700
 From: Frank DiGiovanni  Subject: Front end vibration
 I am experiencing front end vibration when I accelerate from 2000-2500 rpm,
 does anyone have any idea what causes this, and how what I can do to fix it?
 TIA, Frank
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 1990 Toyota 4 Runner
 2 dr. 4X4
 3.0 liter V-6
 Trailmaster invader sk shocks, K&N Filter, Deflecta-shield bug deflector
 Warn Winch Bumper, Smittybuilt Nerfbars, B.F. Goodrich All-Terrain
 31x10.5R-15
 CB Radio( Realistic TRC-483), Wilson silver load flex-4' antenna
 Aurora high performance ignition, Differential breathers, Redline
 Synthetic oil
 Sway bar disconnect.
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:50:31 PDT
 From: "Mark Partin"  Subject: 3.0 L Supercharger for 4Runner
 I know that the TRD Supercharger is designed for newer Toyotas with a
 3.4 L engine, but is there a similar product or other brand of
 supercharger designed for earlier model 3.0 L engines?  While I'm on the
 subject of superchargers.  For the money that I would pay if I got one,
 I could invest in a Borla, some headers, some lockers, a K&N filter, and
 some other performance gainers.  Would my money be better spent on the
 supercharger or other lesser priced add-ons.  Being still in high
 school, I can't be shelling out $2500 on anything that comes my way.
 For right now, I can only afford the supercharger or the other stuff.
 Can't have both unless some of you'll would like to donate some funding
 and capital to my cause.  LOL
 Mallock
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 98 17:49:35 -0700
 From: Francois Jouaux  Subject: Re: Problems in first
 Scott Wilson wrote:>I never experienced this until I had my tranny rebuilt....but now when>I'm not careful about getting it into gear all the way, it happens to>me.   As long as I'm sure I got it into gear all the way, it never>happens.
 Same happens to my 89' 4Runner. The tranny was rebuilt 60K ago.
 If I'm not careful, the first gear will jump out. It seems that the
 stick shift does not hold occasionally, and just bounces back, often
 just before I would shift to second. Othertimes it just holds fine,
 whatever I do. I learned to live with it but that's the major
 complain I have about my truck. It's very odd in stop-and-go traffic
 or when 4 wheeling.
 It's been there for 50K now, not getting worse, but it would be nice
 if anyone had any clue of how to fix this without
 taking it apart and many $$$. I know the answer I'll get from any
 transmission shop.
 Francois
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:00:34 -0500
 From: John Vargas  Subject: RE: Drive Train Direct
 At 11:44 AM 4/22/98 -1000, you wrote:>> A few months ago somebody said that 4Wheel parts have the best price on>> these parts. I check it the price they want $ 369.95 for the true trac,>> $149.95 for the gear, $115 for the rebuilt kit. That bring the price of
 the>> parts alone to $635.85. If I want to get another housing so I could keep
 my>> old third member It cost another $100 and another $75 for the third member>> setup labor. Which bring the total to $810.85 which is prety close to the>> estimate I get.>>I wouldn't order thier install kit if you're doing the front with a>trutrac. The trutrac uses a non-standard front bearing on the carrier, so>you'll need to order these parts from toyota, and you can probably re-use>the pinion bearings in a front diff if you're doing a re-gear. Also,>aftermarket cruch sleeves really suck, so for the front, I'd part it all>out from toyota. As far as I can remember you'll need:>>carrier bearings - I've got the part number for this around here>somewhere. ends in -50006 as i recall.>RTV to seal it up>ring gear bolts unless you re-use the stock ones, probably ok in the>front.>side seals>crush sleeve (toyota calls this a 'spacer')>pinion seal if you're changing the gears.>pinion nut if you're changing the gears.>the funny toyota locking plates for the ring gear bolts. you need 5 i>think.>>I can't remember if the IFS front uses shims or has adjusters. you might>need a shim kit.
 I just wanted to add one thing to this complete list, a wide range  of
 shims....>>I love my truetracs by the way, if I haven't mentioned it lately :)>>>============================================================================>Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ============================================================================
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 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:17:27 EST
 From: "james stevenson"  Subject: suspension, steering, coils, questions>On TonkaTuf3 you said the shocks are on a lever system and are> hydraulically linked on the other end.  Have you considered air bags> set up to swap air back & forth to force the articulation on a system> like I mentioned above?
 First up I think you are confusing TonkaTuf3 with Tonkatuf2 and others I
 have setup. Tonkatuf3 has independent suspension front and rear. The
 suspension looks like an F1 or Indy car. On TonkaTuf3 The upper shock
 mounts move up and down. This allows me to adjust the ride height. I can
 operate this to tilt the vehicle to one side or front/back, as well as
 that by using all together raising and lowering is done. When the design
 was first started the back was done to adjust for loads in the bed. But
 I added the front to escape from a possible hungup situation. Later I
 had the idea of increasing the rollover angle by using them to tilt the
 body.> I keep considering coils for the front of my Toy, and was also> wondering how much the frame would need to be strengthened.
 If your considering a coil swap with radius arms the frame is OK. The
 Superlift Superrunner arms work great for this swap. I would use
 coilovers rather than straight coils, but you will still need a new
 upper tower. If you are considering a V link locater it is a far bit of
 work compared to the radius arms, however it will have heaps more
 articulation. The crossmember is most important and will need to be
 replaced or braced to the rear of the vehicle. The option here are
 limited once you ramp 1300+ double pivot shackles will get you there as
 will twin shackles. The Radius arms wont but the cols with v link will.
 This is where TonkaTuf 3 comes in. Basically you have reach the limits
 of the Toy frame. So the answer is start with a body and build an new
 truck with a Toy body on it (TonkaTuf3).>My cousin just bought a 75 Ford truck, and it has some interesting> things on it.  the rear axle had a V link traction system on it.  with
 a> central pivot (rotate) and an arm pivot (up & down).
 The simplest way is to use the end off a trailer stub axle. To that you
 make a up/down pivot and then run the rods to the axle.>The same truck also had something I have never seen.  It had a> hydraulic assist steering system.
 This is not really new but the legalities of which you should check out.
 The setup while making life easier will not address the bumpsteer on
 draglink equipped Toys, as the problem is the axle moving backwards
 under compression.  I am using non powered rams on TontakTuf3 for the
 steering. They are non powered as the steering rack is a power assist
 unit. The hydraulic links are simpler to run to the hubs than mechanical
 units especially when doing four wheel steer. But the main reason for
 the hydraulic links was bumpsteer. Buy using rams I can have the
 steering arm (Slave cylinder) pivot through the exact same arc as the
 suspension, this means no bumpsteer. As a by product of this the rack is
 mounted just in front of the firewall (behind engine). The hydraulic
 link allows placement of the rack anywhere that is easy to connect to
 the steering Coulomb. The rams I used are cheep units used in
 powerboats. The unit mounted to the rack is a Bullhorn type, designed to
 be mounted to an outboard pivot tube. The units mounted to the
 suspension are typical rams for a powerboat as well.
 James (TonkaTuf)
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:00:04 EDT
 From: JC VR 4  Subject: Frank Raines Park
 Does anyone know if Frank Raines OHV park in Patterson, CA is open yet?
 Joey
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:24:14 -0600
 From: Stricklin@tomah.com (Lisa Stricklin)
 Subject: Aluminum wheels
 I was looking for stock aluminun wheels (used) but even a junk yard
 wanted $500.00 for a set. OUCH!!! I was at a friends yard one day and
 asked if he had any 6 lug wheels. He said just those Jeep Wagoneer one`s
 for $75.00 (SOLD)  they were groedy but were cleanable.  The center hole
 had to be openned up .580 of an in. at $20.00 a wheel.
 After a repaint and some General AP grabber 31-10.50-15's they look
 great and very different. They also just happen to fit nicely inside
 the fenders.
 Ken Stricklin
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 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:30:11 -0700
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: ADD ideas>>  And the ADD is not able to "power disengage" as such.  If it's under> tension,
 Ok a little testing proves this to be true, if there is any tension on drivers
 side axle shaft the ADD will not unlock until it is free.> That is the problem then - I would have to have no binding on the entire front> end to get it to disengage.  Hey ROKRUNR ?  is your ADD still functional &> could you test this with your front locker?> I was mainly looking for a way to help the steering short of getting out to> unlock a hub.
 I think the best way to handel it is to shift into 2WD before the turn.
 I find with lockers front and rear the turning radius is not that bad on dirt and
 rocks.
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html "ROKRUNR"
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:32:46 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Jon Brandt  Subject: INAPPROPRIATE subjects
 I know this is old, but I want to support Scott as a list administrator,
 and to voice my opinion on the subject.
 Hey, give Scott a break. I happen to agree with Scott's opinion about
 appropriate subject manner. Some things, whether I PERSONALLY object (I
 dont') or not, are inappropriate. I would like to keep this list a welcome
 place for ANYONE who may enjoy Toyotas and off-roading. Personally I
 would enjoy it if there were more female members. I think there are a
 total of zero, let me know if I'm wrong. Things LIKE this may make
 them feel unwelcome. If I were a female member, and saw this I would
 either ignore it or leave, but not speak out, being a minority. Although
 I don't personally object to such subject matter, I do believe it is
 inappropriate. One of the list administrator's responsibilities is to make
 all feel welcome.
 I'm not shooting anyone down or taking sides, it's just that Scott has more
 than just a position; its a responsibility. He knows better than anyone that
 you can't please everyone. I do think that maybe he was harsh about his
 response. I do not believe that such actions would be reasoning for being
 unsubscribed. I think a warning should suffice.
 Scotts a great guy. I'm sure he didn't mean anything to be taken personally.
 UNRELATED:
 We all have to remember that there are real people out there. It's easy
 to ignore that, and quite different to talk to someone face to face. Most
 of you know, I have learned my lesson there. ;-)
 Jon Brandt
 On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Jody Young wrote:> Scott Wilson wrote:...>> I strongly suggest that this thread end here.  It is INAPPROPRIATE, and> OFF-TOPIC.  If any of you choose to reply to this, don't be surprised if> suddenly you're no longer subscribed to the list.>> Scott Wilson> List Admin>> End of Scotts babble:...>> Scott, get a life and stop threatening to unsub people for replying to> posts- off topic or not. Read the post again and you will see that I was> looking for some speciality 4x4 shops in the area (among other> things...lol).  That probably won't make a difference with your> totalitarian attitude towards the admin of this list, so go ahead and> unsub me anyway (I'm sure it was going to happen sooner or later).>> So this is probably my final post (at least under my real name), so I> would like to say thanks to all who have helped me with so much info.  I> have enjoyed reading much of the mail, even Scotts dictatorship views on> what he knows is right...his opinion.>> Bye all>> Jody> --> **************************************************************> 94 Toyota Xtracab, 22RE, Bridgestone Dueler MT's 31x10.50,> Downey Header, K&N filter, Borla/custom exhaust, Warn X8000i> on Warn Combo kit, KC Daylighters, and more to come...> **************************************************************>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ============================================================================
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:08:05 -0500
 From: schein@juno.com (Dan Schein)
 Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold stud- gone
 On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:23:50 -0400 Darren Floen
 writes:>Since you'll have to drill it out for a helicoil anyway,why not save>some money,and just drill and tap for a standard size bolt.If its a 10>mm bolt originally,you can just probably tap it to 7/16" NC.
 Darren how dare you suggest such a thing! An amercian thread on my
 Toyota?!? I would consider the M@#*! fix and drill and re-tap, but it
 would have to be metric. Even a hack like me has standards :-)
 - -Dan
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:30:43 -0500
 From: schein@juno.com (Dan Schein)
 Subject: Re: Stripped head bolt
 On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 15:40:34 -0400 Sheldon Gardner  writes:>Hey Dan Esq. same thing happened to me, picked up a 14 mm Heli Coil>kit from Napa for 40.00 bucks.Btw I also>had to buy a 90deg drill to do the job, ( I didn't want to take the>head off either)>if you have a friend with one I highly suggest you ask to borrow it.>I have used my 90deg drill exactly 2 times in as many years. Whoops>there goes another 150.00 bucks:)>(of course it does work when noting else will.)
 Hey Sheldon, since you already have the tool and angle drill, what time
 should I come over? I will be happy to bring along my own Heli-Coil
 insert :-)
 Seriously, thanks for the tip and also thanks to "Bud R" who suggested
 renting a drill!
 - -Dan
 - --
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 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/1978
 Member of TLCA (#6687) and the Keystone Cruisers chapter
 Proud owner of Jo, a 1978 Fj40 Toyota LandCruiser
 86 Hilux, 73 Hurst/Olds, 88 Honda Civic, 93 Pontiac Transport
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:12:23 -0500
 From: schein@juno.com (Dan Schein)
 Subject: Re: Exhaust Noises
 On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Eli Madden  writes:>I would say that's probably it. However, if you put that back in and>you>still have a noise, check where the EGR system attachs to the back>passenger side of the head. I had a whistling noise ever since I>rebuilt>my 22R and I couldn't find it until I got a HUGE (1 quart every 15>miles)>oil leak. I tracked it down and the bolts holding the EGR valve (?) to>the>back passenger side of the head had come out and were spewing oil out>the>holes. I put in new bolts and a nut (one is a stud coming out of the>head)>and not only did my oil leak go away but the noise as well!
 Eli I finished the job and guess what, that exhause noise at high RPM's
 is still there. Tomorrow I will crawl in there and have a look at the
 EGR. (At least tighten it). Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it!
 - -Dan
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 86 Hilux, 73 Hurst/Olds, 88 Honda Civic, 93 Pontiac Transport
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:34:47 EDT
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: lighter problems
 In a message dated 98-04-22 20:31:42 EDT, you write:>>  btw, 10 gauge maybe an overkill...  but if you can afford it, go for it.>  it's just finding stuff to wire it can cause a lot of $$$.   but usually, a>  CB radio doesn't draw that much juice...> not really overvill when I have a the CB wired up along with a 135 watt linear
 CB amp (why take chances - never know what you may wire up).  I already have
 all of this wired up, with a fuse at the batt. and one at each unit.  I guess
 I will just wire the outlet there & forget about trying to figure out the
 stock wiring.
 thanks for all the help everybody!
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 David Moore                                 DRM033@aol.com
 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 http://www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:48:37 EDT
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: suspension, steering, coils, questions
 In a message dated 98-04-22 22:22:46 EDT, you write:> First up I think you are confusing TonkaTuf3 with Tonkatuf2 and others I>  have setup.
 Nope, I have it all straight - I swear.  I guess it didn't come out right
 (hard to do when my brain starts churning).   but, you did answer my questions
 - - and get more started.
 After thinking about the v links, they sound like the best answer, and don't
 seem that hard to make.  I kkep jumping back & forth between coils up front
 and leafs/coilovers.  I really don't need massive articulation in this part of
 the world, but a good ammount would be nice.
 So, if I go with the leafs/coilovers, do I need a lateral track bar, or do the
 leafs & v link keep things in place?  I keep thinking that you would need one,
 but...
 Also, if I want to skip the coilovers, could I use complete spring packs with
 shackles on each end & the v link?  I figure the coilovers would be necessary
 & wanted, but I am just exploring all the options.
 thanks again!
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 TLCA #5662
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 http://www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:05:04 -0600
 From: Stricklin@tomah.com (Lisa Stricklin)
 Subject: Bio
 Kenneth Stricklin
 Wilton, Wi
 USA
 stricklin@tomah.com
 Not a member of TLCA
 35
 CNCmachinist with Trane Co.
 Married w/4 children(all boys,10,12,15,17). They ate 4 pizza`s
 for        dinner tonight!
 Work on my vehicles,and surfing the net.
 I found the list while surfing.
 92 toy 4x4 standard cab, 22RE, 5 spd, air cond, manual lock-outs, cass.
 rodio w/factory CD player, custom box speakers behind seat,
 31x10.50x15`s on modified Jeep Wagoneer aluminum wheels, 15x8, with 5"
 back spacing(I think), custom home built 2" cat back exhaust with turbo
 muffler, and velvet pearl paint(A very, very dark purple only 2 months
 old).
 Future plans; 3" body lift, 33x12.50x15 tires, 4" susp. lift, custom
 roll bar and tube bumpers(prerunner style rear), and custom rocker
 tubes w/ step plates.
 The new paint is the results of a Deer accident which caused $4200.00
 damage.
 I would like to do some off-roading but not with my baby, thats why I`m
 rebuilding an O.R. dune buggy.
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:54:57 -0400
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: RE: reversible wheel
 Yes what I am looking for are steel 15X6 wheels. I want the offset to be
 the same as original and to get 2"more tracks per side if I reverse it.
 Any body got the telephone number and address for Willamette Custom Wheels
 in Washington. I lost mine when I reformat my hard drive. I heard they ask
 for pretty decent price for a custom wheel and the service is great.
 - -----Original Message-----
 From:	Scott Ellinger [SMTP:ellinger@HOLLY.COLOSTATE.EDU]
 Most of the factory wheels were 4" backspacing on a 15x6, but
 some have 15x7's and x8's, and I don't know what the backspacing
 is on those.  I would assume it to be 4", which is standard, but
 it's tough to say.
 If you run much deeper than about a 5" backspacing, you'll run
 into clearance problems with suspension parts, so pick carefully.
 In theory, you could have a 15x8 wheel with 5" backspacing, and
 flip it to 3" backspacing (neglecting flange thickness; you did
 want this in steel, right?) for a 4" overall track increase.
 If you had one (four) made in aluminum, you could probably end
 up with a 5" backspacing in one direction, and a 2" in the other,
 on a 15x8.
 Much wider than 15x8, though, and you're going to lose benefits
 in a big hurry with this.
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:49:44 -0700
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: INAPPROPRIATE subjects
 Jon,
 Nothing against you but if people are going to get bent out of shape because
 of what someones says why is ok to reply on that subject even if it is still
 not related to four wheeling?  It would have been just as relevant and time
 consuming to keep the thread going, think about it people.  If you don't
 like it don't reply, don't give it the attention.  I know I am doing just
 the opposite of what I am saying by writing this but I just wanted to put
 out a point.  If you don't like a topic being mentioned don't make matters
 worse by contributing to it wether you agree or not...
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Jon Brandt  To: toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 8:39 PM
 Subject: INAPPROPRIATE subjects>I know this is old, but I want to support Scott as a list administrator,>and to voice my opinion on the subject.>>Hey, give Scott a break. I happen to agree with Scott's opinion about>appropriate subject manner. Some things, whether I PERSONALLY object (I>dont') or not, are inappropriate. I would like to keep this list a welcome>place for ANYONE who may enjoy Toyotas and off-roading. Personally I>would enjoy it if there were more female members. I think there are a>total of zero, let me know if I'm wrong. Things LIKE this may make>them feel unwelcome. If I were a female member, and saw this I would>either ignore it or leave, but not speak out, being a minority. Although>I don't personally object to such subject matter, I do believe it is>inappropriate. One of the list administrator's responsibilities is to make>all feel welcome.>>I'm not shooting anyone down or taking sides, it's just that Scott has more>than just a position; its a responsibility. He knows better than anyone
 that>you can't please everyone. I do think that maybe he was harsh about his>response. I do not believe that such actions would be reasoning for being>unsubscribed. I think a warning should suffice.>Scotts a great guy. I'm sure he didn't mean anything to be taken
 personally.>>UNRELATED:>We all have to remember that there are real people out there. It's easy>to ignore that, and quite different to talk to someone face to face. Most>of you know, I have learned my lesson there. ;-)>>Jon Brandt>>On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Jody Young wrote:>>> Scott Wilson wrote:...>>>> I strongly suggest that this thread end here.  It is INAPPROPRIATE, and>> OFF-TOPIC.  If any of you choose to reply to this, don't be surprised if>> suddenly you're no longer subscribed to the list.>>>> Scott Wilson>> List Admin>>>> End of Scotts babble:...>>>> Scott, get a life and stop threatening to unsub people for replying to>> posts- off topic or not. Read the post again and you will see that I was>> looking for some speciality 4x4 shops in the area (among other>> things...lol).  That probably won't make a difference with your>> totalitarian attitude towards the admin of this list, so go ahead and>> unsub me anyway (I'm sure it was going to happen sooner or later).>>>> So this is probably my final post (at least under my real name), so I>> would like to say thanks to all who have helped me with so much info.  I>> have enjoyed reading much of the mail, even Scotts dictatorship views on>> what he knows is right...his opinion.>>>> Bye all>>>> Jody>> -->> **************************************************************>> 94 Toyota Xtracab, 22RE, Bridgestone Dueler MT's 31x10.50,>> Downey Header, K&N filter, Borla/custom exhaust, Warn X8000i>> on Warn Combo kit, KC Daylighters, and more to come...>> **************************************************************>>>> ============================================================================>> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota>>>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:59:57 -0700
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: Problems in first
 First make sure there is nothing hitting the shifter and putting pressure on
 it, that is actually the only reason I have heard of toyota trannies popping
 out of gear, next ask my bud Mike at
 http://www.transmissionexchange.com/
 his tranny guy know toy trannies better than anyone!  I have actually never
 had him do any tranny work but I have wheeled with him and I am sure he
 would be glad to help if he can.
 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
 Brandon Miller
 Sacramento CA
 email - miller@csus.edu
 home page - http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~millerb
 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Francois Jouaux  To: Toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 6:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Problems in first>Scott Wilson wrote:>>>I never experienced this until I had my tranny rebuilt....but now when>>I'm not careful about getting it into gear all the way, it happens to>>me.   As long as I'm sure I got it into gear all the way, it never>>happens.>>Same happens to my 89' 4Runner. The tranny was rebuilt 60K ago.>>If I'm not careful, the first gear will jump out. It seems that the>stick shift does not hold occasionally, and just bounces back, often>just before I would shift to second. Othertimes it just holds fine,>whatever I do. I learned to live with it but that's the major>complain I have about my truck. It's very odd in stop-and-go traffic>or when 4 wheeling.>>It's been there for 50K now, not getting worse, but it would be nice>if anyone had any clue of how to fix this without>taking it apart and many $$$. I know the answer I'll get from any>transmission shop.>>Francois>>===========================================================================
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