Toyota 4x4 digest:       Friday, April 10 1998       Volume 01 : Number 801
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 22R-TE web site
 FWD> Welcome to toy4x4-dige
 rear blocks
 Re[2]: 4Runner jamboree
 Re: rear blocks
 Re: 4Runner jamboree
 Wheel balancing
 rear lift
 94 4 Runner - better seats - any recommendations??
 Project 86 RTE (turbo) 4x4 for sale
 Project 86 RTE (turbo) 4x4 for sale
 format
 Re: format
 '78 4wd?
 Re: format
 will 32's fit on 98 without rubbing.
 Re: 4Runner jamboree
 New Member/Manual Hubs
 Re: rear blocks
 Re: rear blocks
 Re: '78 4wd?
 San Luis Obispo 4WD Clubs
 Body lifts and roll cages.
 Re: will 32's fit on 98 without rubbing.
 Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #800
 Re: Grounding CB antenna
 RE: 85' tow truck
 Re: rear blocks
 Project 86 RTE (turbo) 4x4 for sale- info added
 Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #800
 RE: 85' tow truck
 Re[2]: Toyota 4x4 jamboree
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 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:46:34 -0800
 From: Jeff Moskovitz  Subject: 22R-TE web site
 Hey everybody,
 I've finally got the first draft of my 22R-TE web site together.  There's
 still a lot of fleshing out to do, but I've got some pictures of my truck
 and a feature piece on installing an intercooler.
 Please check it out, if you're so inclined.  The URL is
 http://www.well.com/user/mosk
 I plan to make this site sort of "one stop shopping" for 22R-TE
 modifications and ideas, so I'd like to get as much feedback as possible,
 especially regarding the content and speed of the site. (There are a lot
 of high quality pictures, so it's a bit slow.) If people find that it's
 too slow (and I'm sure some people will), I might swap the JPEGs for
 GIFs, but I think it looks pretty sharp as is.
 Thanks, and let me know what you think...
 Jeff Moskovitz
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 Jeff Moskovitz                                 1986 22R-TE truck
 Senior Support Specialist                      intercooler, 2.5" exhaust,
 FileMaker, Inc.                                Random Tech cat, DynoMax
 muffler, Rancho RS9000,
 jeff_moskovitz@filemaker.com                   lots 'o stereo.
 mosk@well.com
 http://www.well.com/user/mosk
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 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 13:02:43 -0800
 From: Peter_Mathisen@dgw.com
 Subject: FWD> Welcome to toy4x4-dige
 FWD> Welcome to toy4x4-digest
 To toy4x4@tlca.org
 I don't know if this when't out my computer shut down
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 Name: Peter Mathisen
 City & State: Peyton Colorado
 Country: El Paso
 E-mail address: peter_mathisen@dgw.com
 Toyota (s) year & model: 1985 Toy 4Runner EFI  I am looking
 for a newer one for work
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): not yet will be soon
 Age: 29
 Occupation: sales
 Marital Status: married four kids
 Hobbies: four wheeling and more four wheeling
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: link
 from t4x4pickup.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: the 4Runner is
 stock but will have soon air lockers and 4.70:1 or dual
 t-cases.  I am looking for a 60/40 split bench seat so the
 family can go out with me. now the only way we all can go is
 to go in the chevy suburban and that is too BIG for the
 trails I like.  I like hard core wheeling rocks, hills,
 trail that people I go with say I an crazy for going down
 them. I have had five others Toyotas three '81s a '79 and a
 '84 x-cab I liked it the best. but the 4Runner is GREAT I
 like it.  I will not sell it as one person found that out
 this week.
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 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:05:45 EDT
 From: Jesjr777  Subject: rear blocks
 Will I have to make my own 1" blocks, or does someone know where to find some
 pre-made?
 What is the largest block that will fit without interferfering with the E
 brake cable?
 What are the shackle lengths people have found (over stock) and what is the
 actual lift they give?
 Downey off-road sells trick billet aluminum  1" rear blocks for  $65
 and they come with heavy-duty u-bolts.
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 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:42:46 -0400
 From: adickenson@kpmg.com
 Subject: Re[2]: 4Runner jamboree
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 Does anybody know about any 4Runner Jamborees/Events east of the
 Mississippi?  I assume the 4Runner Jamboree you're talking about is
 out west.
 Allen
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 Subject: Re: 4Runner jamboree
 Author:  Scott Wilson  at Internet
 Date:    4/8/98 4:05 PM
 Chuck & Birgit wrote:>> Hey Scott Wilson , can you give me some more Info on the 4Runner> Jamboree.....  BTW  Change my webpage around check it out...........> I still haven't gotten the 'official' info yet (and I'm a bit irritated
 cause Steve Miller promised he would mail them out early March)...but I
 think it's supposed to happen July 25-26.
 I'll put the info up on the main toyota page at ORC when I get the
 'official' info.
 I'm gonna go check out your page now....talk to ya later.
 scott
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:03:13 EDT
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: rear blocks
 In a message dated 98-04-09 22:11:59 EDT, you write:>>         Downey off-road sells trick billet aluminum  1" rear blocks for  $65>  and they come with heavy-duty u-bolts.> I think I will be making them in that case...   :)  ($65 - ouch!!!)
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 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 21:12:11 -0700
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Re: 4Runner jamboree
 adickenson@kpmg.com wrote:>>      Does anybody know about any 4Runner Jamborees/Events east of the>      Mississippi?  I assume the 4Runner Jamboree you're talking about is>      out west.> None that I know of.  The one that happens here in CA is in a different
 location each year.  This year is at Big Bear in So. Cal.
 Scott
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 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:25:24 -0600
 From: Tony Bartlett  Subject: Wheel balancing
 The way you balance your wheels is a personal choice.
 There are two ways to balance
 Static Balance- Having weights only in one line somewhere on the wheel
 (inside, outside or center)
 Dynamic Balance- having weights in two lines somewhere (inside and
 outside, inside and outside off of bead (tape weights), inside bead and
 inside next to center of wheel.
 People like Static Balancing so they do not have weights showing on the
 outside of thier wheels, some wheels have no lip for weights.
 Static Balancing only balances a tire to prevent bouncing, it will still
 have a shimmy (steering wheel shake).
 Dynamic balances a tire to prevent bouncing and shimmy.
 In my personal experience Dynamic is the best way to go.  It just
 depends on if you want weights showing on the outside of the wheel.
 Toyota Tony
 http://www.digitalpla.net/~offroader
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 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 10:24:02
 From: Rick Murray  Subject: rear lift
 David Moore wrote :>What is the largest block that will fit without interferfering with the E>brake cable?
 Just thought I would share my experience with blocks.  When I bought my
 4Runner, it had 2-inch blocks in the rear.  The e-brake cable (which
 normally goes OVER the leaf springs) went under them, but rubbed.  I
 replaced the 2-inch
 blocks with 3-inch blocks to avoid the rubbing, and level out the truck.
 2.5-inch blocks probably would have worked as well.
 I have a rear torque rod, to prevent axle-wrap, and wheel hopping.  With this
 setup, I really can't see the advantage of switching from a block lift, to
 springs.  It maintains the stock ride, and articulation.  It seems to me that
 springs with more arch, will not articulate as well, unless they were longer
 (like the Mazda springs).  I'm not building a radical rig, like others on the
 list, and the truck has done all the tough trails here in Northern Calif,
 including the Rubicon.   Good enuf for me.
 By the way, about your rear bumper/hitch issue.  I would invest in a custom
 bumper, or maybe the Smitty bumper.  A lot cheaper than having to replace
 that rear tailgate, if you ever whack it.
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 Rick Murray                                22R motor ; 3-inch lift
 84 Toyota 4Runner SR5                    33" BFG M/Ts ; 4.88 gears
 Rancho Cordova, Ca.                   Rancho 9000's ; on-board air
 http://www.jps.net/rick99/             Marlin TCase #67 ; TRD LSD
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 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:16:16 -0400
 From: "Winston Lewis"  Subject: 94 4 Runner - better seats - any recommendations??
 I just picked up 1994 4 Runner - I need "better" seats with more lumbar
 support for a longer waisted body.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
 Thanks,
 Winston at winjack12@jps.net
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:01:36 -0700
 From: eric@qnis.net
 Subject: Project 86 RTE (turbo) 4x4 for sale
 Howdy folks,
 I'm selling my truck to buy something I don't have to work on. I'm
 interested in trades too.
 My truck has some really nice points and some really bad ones; it may be
 best suited as a project truck or a parts truck, but I drive it every day.
 First, here are the good points:
 1. Factory air conditioning that works well.
 2. New front wheel bearings, inner and outer... very expensive...
 3. New front rotors, calipers and pads; turned rear drums with new shoes
 and wheel cylinders... also
 very expensive.
 4. The motor has 25,000 miles on it. The guy I bought it from had a shop
 install a rebuilt motor.
 I have the receipt. The cam chain was making noise though, so I took it
 apart. The plastic guide
 on the driver's side was splitting. ( I can't believe the guides are
 made of plastic...)
 I installed a new chain, tensioner and guides. Everything looked fine
 except the one guide, but
 I bought a kit from NAPA, so I used all the new parts. Compression reads
 150-150-135-135. I
 think the rest of the motor is in good shape. when the turbo kicks in,
 it sure makes power.
 5. New (less than a year old) high-flow CAT, 2 1/4 aluminized exhaust and a
 high-flow muffler.
 6. Rancho RS 5000 shocks -- Too stiff for me, but some folks like them.
 7. Polished factory alloys in flawless shape with about 5000 miles on a set
 of BF Goodrich A/T 30x9.50
 8. The suspension is all nice and tight; I don't know when it's been
 replaced, but it obviously has.
 Now, the bad stuff:
 1. The rear differential clunks.
 2. The trans will sometimes jump out of first gear.
 3. The body is only OK and the bed has some damage.
 4. The turbocharger is letting some oil past the seals.
 5. The seat is very uncomfortable.
 6. The front differential has a problem; the lash feels nice, but one of
 the "flanges" is sloppy.
 7. Both front axels are junk.
 The bottom line is that it needs obvious work, but I drive it daily and
 it's never failed me. I have a stack of receipts that the last owner passed
 on to me and I have added more than a few myself. You may be interested in
 these details.
 If there's any interest, email me directly and I'll give you my phone
 number so you can ask anything I didn't list.
 I am selling the truck because I have a new career that demands my full
 attention. I have no time for a project.
 Thanks, and sorry for the long post.
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:10:56 -0700
 From: eric@qnis.net
 Subject: Project 86 RTE (turbo) 4x4 for sale
 Howdy folks,
 I'm selling my truck to buy something I don't have to work on. I'm
 interested in trades too.
 My truck has some really nice points and some really bad ones; it may be
 best suited as a project truck or a parts truck, but I drive it every day.
 First, here are the good points:
 1. Factory air conditioning that works well.
 2. New front wheel bearings, inner and outer... very expensive...
 3. New front rotors, calipers and pads; turned rear drums with new shoes
 and wheel cylinders...
 new rear wheel bearings too... also very expensive.
 4. The motor has 25,000 miles on it. The guy I bought it from had a shop
 install a rebuilt motor.
 I have the receipt. The cam chain was making noise though, so I took it
 apart. The plastic guide
 on the driver's side was splitting. ( I can't believe the guides are
 made of plastic...)
 I installed a new chain, tensioner and guides. Everything looked fine
 except the one guide, but
 I bought a kit from NAPA, so I used all the new parts. Compression reads
 150-150-135-135. I
 think the rest of the motor is in good shape. when the turbo kicks in,
 it sure makes power.
 5. New (less than a year old) high-flow CAT, 2 1/4 aluminized exhaust and a
 high-flow muffler.
 6. Rancho RS 5000 shocks -- way too stiff for me, but some folks like them.
 7. Polished factory alloys in flawless shape with about 5000 miles on a set
 of BF Goodrich A/T 30x9.50
 8. The suspension is all nice and tight; I don't know when it's been
 replaced, but it obviously has.
 9. Push bar
 Now, the bad stuff:
 1. The rear differential clunks.
 2. The trans will sometimes jump out of first gear.
 3. The body is pretty much OK, but the bed has some damage.
 4. The turbocharger is letting some oil past the seals.
 5. The seat is very uncomfortable.
 6. The front differential has a problem; the lash feels nice, but one of
 the "flanges" is sloppy.
 7. Both front axels are junk.
 The bottom line is that it needs obvious work, but I drive it daily and
 it's never failed me. I have a stack of receipts that the last owner passed
 on to me and I have added more than a few myself. You may be interested in
 these details.
 If there's any interest, email me directly and I'll give you my phone
 number so you can ask anything I didn't list.
 I am selling the truck because I have a new career that demands my full
 attention. I have no time for a project.
 Thanks,
 Eric (central California)
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:31:08 -0700
 From: BOHNTR@webtv.net (RON ACKERMAN)
 Subject: format
 I have been a subscriber to this page for about 3 months and am fed up
 with the redundency of it , if you have a question  the same answer  is
 posted several times  the same with the questions. please dont get me
 wrong  but I  feel the editors of this page could do a better job of
 keeping some order. ok Im done let me have it
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 00:58:52 -0700
 From: Rachel Stuart  Subject: Re: format
 This isn't just a page, it's an email discussion forum, which is constantly
 changing, with new people and old, coming and going, and so of course there will
 be some redundancy. It's sorta like a newsgroup in that respect. It's not just a
 static page that's updated daily, it grows with the people in it. People that
 weren't subscribed, say, 6 months ago are not going to have seen the messages
 about certain swaps or compatibility issues, but they're in the proper forum to
 discuss and get answers/opinions for their queries. And they're going to ask. So
 it may come up again...but that's the nature of the beast. It's just the way
 that this type of communication works. Digest mode may help you sort through the
 redundancies if you don't want to read them over and over (or you can just
 ignore/delete the topics that you see over and over if you like).
 Admin, if I overstepped, please let me know.
 Rachel Stuart
 bari@home.net
 RON ACKERMAN wrote:> I have been a subscriber to this page for about 3 months and am fed up> with the redundency of it , if you have a question  the same answer  is> posted several times  the same with the questions. please dont get me> wrong  but I  feel the editors of this page could do a better job of> keeping some order. ok Im done let me have it>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:32:10 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Eli Madden  Subject: '78 4wd?
 Fred wrote-
 ****************
 his 78 Toy4x4.
 ***************
 Toyota didn't make a '78 4wd. Could it be a '79?
 Eli Madden
 Middlebury, Vermont
 '83 4x4 SR5 Shortbed w/ 31s, 3" front springs and '87 22R
 eli@computeralt.com
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 04:52:52 -1000 (HST)
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: Re: format
 On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, RON ACKERMAN wrote:> I have been a subscriber to this page for about 3 months and am fed up> with the redundency of it , if you have a question  the same answer  is> posted several times  the same with the questions. please dont get me> wrong  but I  feel the editors of this page could do a better job of> keeping some order. ok Im done let me have it
 First of all, its an email list, not a 'page'. By the way, the associated
 pages are at "http://www.off-road.com/toyota". I presume this is the first
 email list you've been on.
 This list is basically unedited, and we like it that way. When I ask a
 question, I don't want to see one guys opinion of the answer, I like to
 see several people's experiences. When I see a question from someone else
 and I think I have an answer, I offer one, whether or not it agrees with
 other answers. This is the nature of email mailing lists, and be thankful
 that generally, this list has a high signal-noise ratio.
 Now, if i misunderstood you and your complaint isn't the number of
 answers, but the number of redundant 'quoting' I agree 100%. People need
 to trim from their messages irrelevant sections from previous messages and
 whatnot. But that is not the job of the editors - it is the job of the
 people who post the messages. If the editors had to edit every message
 that came through this list, this list wouldn't exist. The Off-road.com
 staff who runs this list and edits the toyota pages is an unpaid staff who
 does the work for their love of toyotas and wheeling, and for no other
 compensation. We have jobs, families, and our own trucks to work on and
 improve. So please understand if we spend the precious few hours we
 can spend on net-related toyota stuff doing the things we feel are most
 valuable for the online toyota 4x4 community, which is updating the web
 pages, answering the ridiculous amounts of email we get (though we do try
 to push people to this list, where they are likely to get more accurate
 info :), and handling the administrivia of this list. Editing or
 moderating the toy4x4 discussions is way down our list of priorities.
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:09:42 -0400
 From: "Carl Mercer"  Subject: will 32's fit on 98 without rubbing.
 If I feel like wasting my money and going to 16in rims and 32in tires, will
 they fit a 98 Tacoma TRD without rubbing?  Also, I noticed the 98 4runner
 comes with 16in rims. Are these compatible with the Tacoma's? I'm probably a
 bit more concerned with turning radius than wheel travel.
 Thanks.
 Carl
 P.S. I just had the dealer service my Tacoma due to a vibration it the
 steering at high speeds. They had to replace my Goodyear's with Toyo's to
 solve the problem. The Goodyear's could not be balanced. I'm also not too
 impressed with the quality of the Toyota rims, two of mine require a lot of
 weights to balance.
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:09:50 EDT
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: 4Runner jamboree
 In a message dated 98-04-10 00:21:50 EDT, you write:>>      Does anybody know about any 4Runner Jamborees/Events east of the>>      Mississippi?  I assume the 4Runner Jamboree you're talking about is>>      out west.
 Since I have a truck, I would rather see a truck & 4Runner Jamboree.  Along
 those lines, Anyone want to get together for a Toy list run on this side of
 the country?  I wouldn't mind getting together & going to Tellico...
 Just a suggestion
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 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 http://www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:28:22 -0700
 From: Barney McNamara  Subject: New Member/Manual Hubs
 Fred wrote:>We ran into a problem getting them off. The manual talks about>hitting the locking cone washers in the split to loosen them up for>removal. After an hour of trying, there has to be another way , a special>tool or something we are missing. Has anyone done this, if so how?
 I have sorted and indexed a bunch of info from the list, and stored it on
 my website. There is a good thread on front wheel - cone washer removal
 in the tips and techniques section. You may want to check it out.
 ______________________________________________________________
 Barney McNamara              JENNY - 83 Toyota Short Bed
 ( barney@flowpoint.com )     stock 22R motor ; 3" body lift
 Santa Cruz, Ca.              8" alloy rims; 31" BFG A/Ts
 homepage: http://www.scruz.net/~barneym/barnhome.htm
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:01:03 -0600 (MDT)
 From: Scott Ellinger  Subject: Re: rear blocks>>         Downey off-road sells trick billet aluminum  1" rear blocks for  $65>>  and they come with heavy-duty u-bolts.>>> I think I will be making them in that case...   :)  ($65 - ouch!!!)> I highly recommend shackles over blocks, but if you must use blocks, go ahead.
 Or maybe add-a-leaves... anything's better than blocks.
 - --scott
 Scott Ellinger   ellinger@holly.colostate.edu   Larimer County 4WD Club
 Visit my Home Page: http://holly.colostate.edu/~ellinger
 Please help me make Four Wheeler's Top Truck Challenge '98--vote #28 on
 the Top Truck ballot in the May '98 issue of Four Wheeler Magazine!
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:09:18 -0600 (MDT)
 From: Scott Ellinger  Subject: Re: rear blocks> Will I have to make my own 1" blocks, or does someone know where to find some> pre-made?
 Most parts store have lift/lowering blocks, as does Summit Racing (race car
 mailorder place) pretty cheap.> What is the largest block that will fit without interferfering with the E> brake cable?
 I think a 1" block will fit, but a 2" will probably interfere.  With a 3"
 block, you just swap the cable to the underside of the spring.  I have a
 pair of cast-iron TrailMaster tapered rear blocks (3") that I'd be quite
 willing to part with (you pay shipping and they're yours) but I don't have
 any usable U-bolts to go with them.> What are the shackle lengths people have found (over stock) and what is the> actual lift they give?> I have a pair on my truck that is about 2.5" longer than stock, and they
 gave about 1" to maybe 1.25" of lift.
 - --scott
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:47:47 -0700
 From: Ben Harrison  Subject: Re: '78 4wd?
 i think he meant 87
 At 10:32 AM 4/10/98 -0400, you wrote:>Fred wrote->****************>his 78 Toy4x4.>***************>>Toyota didn't make a '78 4wd. Could it be a '79?>>Eli Madden>Middlebury, Vermont>'83 4x4 SR5 Shortbed w/ 31s, 3" front springs and '87 22R>eli@computeralt.com>>>============================================================================>Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ============================================================================
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:58:46 -0700
 From: Eric_Stegall@amat.com
 Subject: San Luis Obispo 4WD Clubs
 Joey,
 I went to school at Cal Poly and they have a few clubs in the area.  I
 believe SLO 4 Wheelers is based just north of SLO (10 miles)  in Santa
 Margarita and Cal Poly has a club called the Poly Goats.  I remember a few
 years ago during an "open house" at Cal Poly, the Poly Goats were showing
 off their rigs by driving over a few cars in the parking lot.  That got
 lots of attention.  It was kind of like watching monster trucks, but with
 rigs from stock to $$$$ all doing it.  There are so many places to go
 wheeling in SLO.  E-mail me and I'll let you know about more places.  Oh
 yeah, if you are into motorcycles, there is also a club on campus called
 the Penguins (I think).
 Eric
 San Jose, CA
 78 FJ40  91 X-Cab
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:17:19 -0700
 From: "Roger Brown P.E."  Subject: Body lifts and roll cages.
 When I added a 1" body lift on my 1st gen 4Runner (factory roll cage) I've
 noticed that the rear ends of the cage are mounted to the floor right over a
 rubber bushing that would normally rest on the frame.  Of course, with the
 lift, there's now an inch or air between the rubber and the frame.
 Has anyone done anything about this extra pseudo-body mount?  I was thinking
 making some sort of extension for the rubber piece to get it down to the frame.
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 Date: 10 Apr 98 10:24:45 PDT
 From: Norman.Goetz@directory.reed.edu (Norman Goetz)
 Subject: Re: will 32's fit on 98 without rubbing.
 - --- You wrote:
 If I feel like wasting my money and going to 16in rims and 32in tires, will
 they fit a 98 Tacoma TRD without rubbing?  Also, I noticed the 98 4runner
 comes with 16in rims. Are these compatible with the Tacoma's? I'm probably a
 bit more concerned with turning radius than wheel travel.
 - --- end of quote ---
 I did this with a '97 - bought 16X7 "used" steel takeoff rims from a new
 4Runner and mounted 235/85R16 tires.  The offset is the same as the supplied
 alloy Tacoma rims.  This works out to roughly 32X9.50.  They don't rub in
 turning and haven't rubbed on suspension travel yet but I haven't taken it
 offroad.  Note that these are narrower tires than many would want, so the
 turning clearance remains like it was with 31X10.50s.
 Norman
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:32:11 -0700
 From: "Roger Brown P.E."  Subject: Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #800
 Jay wrote:>> ..Ok here's the deal,  I have an 85 SR5, and the bump stops are axle
 mounted.  Replacement stops aren't cheap.  What I want to know is, is there
 is any reason why I can't drill a hole into the piece of the frame that the
 bump stop hits, and mount a universal bump stop in it.  So now the bump
 stop will be frame mounted.  I think other truck manufacturers use the same
 set-up.   It will save me $$$, and if I ever need to replace them again  I
 wont have to loosen the u bolts.  Thanks,
< Subject: Re: Grounding CB antenna> When I first tried it 2 days ago it didn't work, then I tried it again
 yesterday and, guess what...it woked!  Still can't figure out what the
 original problem was...
 That would worry me more than having it not work!  At least when it's
 not working you know you have a problem.  It's sounds like you've now
 got an intermittent problem and keying up the mike at the wrong time
 could definitely fry something.  (Sorry, don't mean to worry you but
 things the fix themselves also have a tendency to break themselves again
 later.)
 Does the coax go straight from the antenna into the radio, or does it go
 through some other connectors on the way?  If it goes through other
 connections, one of them might be the problem.  Since you looked at the
 Firestik site, you already know that they recommend checking to see that
 there is no continuity between the center conductor and the ground
 before connecting the radio to a new antenna / antenna line.  You'll
 also have read their recommendation for using coax with a twisted center
 conductor vs. solid wire, especially when the wire gets pinched in door
 frames and stuff.
 As for the SWR question, the guy at the CB shop was correct - removing
 the meter does not change the SWR reading "at the point where the meter
 was connected".  That last part is the real key.  The correct way to
 connect an SWR meter to the antenna line is to remove the antenna line
 from the radio, attach the SWR meter to the radio using a patch cable,
 and attach the antenna line to the meter.  What you measure is the
 amount of power being reflected by the antenna at the point it connects
 to the meter.  After you tune the antenna, you remove the meter and
 patch cord, and reconnect the antenna directly to the radio.  Since the
 length of the antenna line from the point of measurement hasn't changed,
 the SWR will remain the same.
 If you connect the SWR to the radio using a patch cord and then leave
 the patch cord in place after you tune the antenna (for example, if it's
 inconvenient to get to the radio directly so you use a patch cord as an
 extension to make connections more accesiible) then your SWR will change
 once you remove the meter because the antenna line has been increased by
 the length of the patch cord and the intervening connectors.
 Don Tong
 donald.tong@unisys.com
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:16:33 MDT -0600
 From: ggibb@msu.oscs.montana.edu
 Subject: RE: 85' tow truck
 sheldon's idea of making his bargin 85' into a tow truck seems a little scetchy to me.
 namly on the weight and brake side of things.  a trailer and pickup behind the light
 85' could drag it off the road, if he desides ot be adventurous, please get a damb
 good set of trailor brakes.  also why spend the extra $$ on the 350 if the 305 works?
 the 350 is a better motor, but it sounds like shelodon is trying to save $$ big time,
 other wise he could pick up a good 3/4 ton rig that is 20 yrs old and in fair working
 condition for a little more than he'll have into the 85' toy, and the 3/4 will be much
 safer and work a lot better
 just my .02 cents worth.
 geoff gibb
 bozeman, mt
 85' long bed p/u "i'd never tow with it"
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:32:07 EDT
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: rear blocks
 In a message dated 98-04-10 12:12:21 EDT, you write:>>  I think a 1" block will fit, but a 2" will probably interfere.  With a 3">  block, you just swap the cable to the underside of the spring.  I have a>  pair of cast-iron TrailMaster tapered rear blocks (3") that I'd be quite>  willing to part with (you pay shipping and they're yours) but I don't have>  any usable U-bolts to go with them.> I have the same ProComp blocks in right now, but thatnks anyway.  I guess I
 will just stick with the blocks I have and just do the torque bar thing.
 I really get great travel with the blocks I have now & the only negative part
 is the axlew wrap.  The torque bar will solve that so I guess I shouldn't
 bother with all the mods.
 I eally don't want to go screwing with what I have now since it just plain
 works.  I would be willing to be that ad-a-leaves would reduce my present
 articulation.  I may get a set of slightly longer shackles to see if they
 really do increase travel.
 thanks
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:51:40 -0700
 From: eric@qnis.net
 Subject: Project 86 RTE (turbo) 4x4 for sale- info added
 Howdy folks,
 I'm selling my truck to buy something I don't have to work on. I'm
 interested in trades too.
 My truck has some really nice points and some really bad ones; it may be
 best suited as a project truck or a parts truck, but I drive it every day.
 First, here are the good points:
 1. Factory air conditioning that works well.
 2. New front wheel bearings, (NAPA) inner and outer... very expensive...
 3. New front rotors, calipers and pads (NAPA); turned rear drums with new
 shoes and wheel cylinders...
 new rear wheel bearings too (NAPA)... also very expensive.
 4. The motor has 25,000 miles on it. The guy I bought it from had a shop
 install a rebuilt motor.
 I have the receipt. The cam chain was making noise though, so I took it
 apart. The plastic guide
 on the driver's side was splitting. ( I can't believe the guides are
 made of plastic...)
 I installed a new chain, tensioner and guides. Everything looked fine
 except the one guide, but
 I bought a kit from NAPA, so I used all the new parts. Compression reads
 150-150-135-135. I
 think the rest of the motor is in good shape. when the turbo kicks in,
 it sure makes power.
 5. New (less than a year old) high-flow CAT, 2 1/4 aluminized exhaust and a
 high-flow muffler.
 6. Rancho RS 5000 shocks -- way too stiff for me, but some folks like them.
 7. Polished factory alloys in flawless shape with about 5000 miles on a set
 of BF Goodrich A/T 30x9.50
 8. The suspension is all nice and tight; I don't know when it's been
 replaced, but it obviously has.
 9. Push bar
 10. New factory turbo manifold.
 Now, the bad stuff:
 1. The rear differential clunks.
 2. The trans will sometimes jump out of first gear.
 3. The body is pretty much OK, but the bed has some damage: the small lower
 panels in front and behind
 the left rear wheel.
 4. The turbocharger is letting some oil past the seals.
 5. The seat is very uncomfortable.
 6. The front differential has a problem; the lash feels nice, but one of
 the "flanges" is sloppy.
 7. Both front axels (inner and outer joints) are junk.
 The bottom line is that it needs obvious work, but it has tons of
 potential. I drive it daily and it's never failed me. I have a stack of
 receipts that the last owner passed on to me and I have added more than a
 few myself. You may be interested in these details. I'm not sure what it's
 worth; I'm thinking 2500 without the wheels and tires. I have a set of
 steel wheels to put on. All I need right now is a decent car or hilux that
 I don't have to work on to drive to and from work.
 If there's any interest, email me directly and I'll give you my phone
 number so you can ask anything I didn't list.
 I am selling the truck because I have a new career that demands my full
 attention. I have no time for a project.
 Thanks,
 Eric (central California, Fresno)
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:09:10 -0400
 From: redline1@juno.com
 Subject: Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #800
 People ...
 After careful consideration i have decided to sell my yoyo to eliminate a
 car payment.
 What i am looking for is a reasonable sales price.  Let me give you a
 little info.
 92 extra cab, 4x4, automatic, 113000 miles, white, tnted windows,
 aftermarket radio,speaker box, aluminum wheels,30x9.5 tires k&n air
 charger,bed liner,cap,60/40 bucket type seats.  might be more that i am
 not listing but u get the jist.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Oh if anyone is interested in it e mail me directly.
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 15:16:00 -0500
 From: Rosenberger Bud  Subject: RE: 85' tow truck
 geoff gibb wrote:>other wise he could pick up a good 3/4 ton rig that is 20 yrs old and in
 fair working>condition for a little more than he'll have into the 85' toy, and the
 3/4 will be much>safer and work a lot better>85' long bed p/u "i'd never tow with it"
 I think I'll have to agree here.  I towed my 85 shortbed on a tow bar
 with my 85 longbed from Knoxville, TN  to Buffalo, NY.  It made it but it
 was a bit hairy sometimes.  You just don't have the weight and "presence"
 on the road to feel comfortable.  I'm sure a trailer with brakes would
 help but it is more weight.  But "desperate men do desperate things"!  I
 needed to get home.
 BTW the power was only a bit of a problem on the hills but the stopping
 and general feeling of being in control was lacking.
 Hope this helps,  Bud R
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 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:31:20 -0400
 From: adickenson@kpmg.com
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 I'm actually heading down to Tellico next month.  A Toyota 4x4
 Jamboree would be a great idea.  Probably not next month as that isn't
 much time to organize, but at least at some point in the future.
 Allen
 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
 Subject: Re: 4Runner jamboree
 Author:  toy4x4@tlca.org at Internet
 Date:    4/10/98 11:09 AM
 Since I have a truck, I would rather see a truck & 4Runner Jamboree.  Along
 those lines, Anyone want to get together for a Toy list run on this side of
 the country?  I wouldn't mind getting together & going to Tellico...
 Just a suggestion
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