Toyota 4x4 digest:      Wednesday, April 1 1998      Volume 01 : Number 794
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 jacobs ignition
 RE: Fill Plug Removal on Front Diff (86 IFS)
 Re: SOS - MAYDAY - HELP and all those things
 Head Gasket Recall
 Re: Head Gasket Recall
 Re: Center Caps w/ Manual Hubs
 Trick '89 extra cab for sale
 Re: Center Caps w/ Manual Hubs
 Re: Head Gasket Recall
 Re: jacobs ignition
 re: 383 (Long)
 Header coatings
 longer brake lines
 longer drive shaft
 Bio
 Re: Center Caps w/ Manual Hubs
 Re: Jacob's ignition
 98 Tacoma Limited Ext-CabTRD vs. 87 Ext-Cab Deluxe.
 No. Cal. Snow Run
 Re: longer brake lines
 RE: Jacob's ignition
 center caps
 RE: Header coatings
 Re: Header coatings
 TRD clutch
 Re: Jacob's ignition
 Re: TRD clutch
 Re:Torsions
 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 RE: 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 RE: TRD clutch
 Tuff Country Sus. Lift
 3.4L Where a 3.0 Should Be
 RE: TRD clutch
 Re: TRD clutch
 Re: 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 Re: EGR GOOP
 RE: 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #793
 TIRED OLD ENGINE FOR SALE!
 Introduction -- new to list
 Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #790
 Re: longer brake lines
 Re: Introduction -- new to list
 Re: 98 Tacoma Limited Ext-CabTRD vs. 87 Ext-Cab Deluxe.
 '91 Toyota 22RE
 Re: '91 Toyota 22RE
 Alcan springs
 Rosser event
 erratic idle
 Re: longer brake lines
 Re: Introduction -- new to list
 Re: Header coatings
 Re: 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 exhaust
 Re: For Sale
 V8 4Runner
 personal bio info
 Re: erratic idle
 Re: Header coatings
 Re: longer brake lines
 Re: erratic idle
 Re: Rosser event
 Tuff Country Sus. Lift
 4Runners
 Re: erratic idle
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:37:57 -0800
 From: BOHNTR@webtv.net (RON ACKERMAN)
 Subject: jacobs ignition
 i have a 86 22r and would like to get a little more power, i called nwor
 and they said i should do the cam header carb thing. my truck is stock
 with 31 inch mudders i know i need to change gears to about 488 with my
 tires.but do i realy need to go that far to gain a little more power ? i
 was thinking about the jacobs system has anyone tried it? if so what do
 you think?
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:50:00 -0800
 From: "Smith, Patrick S."  Subject: RE: Fill Plug Removal on Front Diff (86 IFS)
 A long time ago Dan Schein wrote:
 The front diff fill plug will not budge! I tried rust buster crap, heat,
 sockets, box wrench, open end's. Regardless what I try it won't budge. So
 then I tried a chisel and hammer. Same results...>  I ran into this too.  I let penetrating oil sit overnight (don't get it
 on the head, it just makes it easier to slip the socket).  The real trick
 was to TIGHTEN the bolt just a hair before trying to loosen it.  Sounds
 backwards but it helps to get the bolt freed.
 Patrick
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:02:00 -0800
 From: "Smith, Patrick S."  Subject: Re: SOS - MAYDAY - HELP and all those things
 adam  wrote:
 "...my 86 4runner...(has) now got a great big
 3 inch round role in the block...I need some
 advice on what is my best option for repairing
 and making it into something with a little
 more power."> Could this be a lost frost plug?  Do the 22R's have frost plugs like the
 Chev SB?
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:27:41 -0500
 From: "Mashi Hasu"  Subject: Head Gasket Recall
 FYI to all on the list,
 i received my official recall notice from Toyota re: V6 head gasket
 replacement on Sat. i'm a little behind on my reading at the moment. so,
 please excuse me if this has already been brought up on the list.
 Mashi
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:47:30 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Re: Head Gasket Recall
 Mashi Hasu wrote:>> FYI to all on the list,>> i received my official recall notice from Toyota re: V6 head gasket> replacement on Sat. i'm a little behind on my reading at the moment. so,> please excuse me if this has already been brought up on the list.
 Try the list
 archive....http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toy4x4/toy4x4_digest.html
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:51:01 -0800
 From: "Todd and Terry Steele"  Subject: Re: Center Caps w/ Manual Hubs
 Kevin Valentine wrote:>>And you can run down to your local wheel shop and they'll sell you
 some>center caps that have openings for your manual locking hubs.  Get
 the>short ones that don't stick way out (they come out flush with the>hubs).
 These look much better in my opinion.
 Watch out for those caps, they are rust traps.
 Todd
 His:  87 Toyota 4X4, Marlin Tcase #180, EZ Lockers F/R, Warn MX8000, Custom
 rear bumper and nerfs, Ramsey F bumper, Trailmaster/Superlift 4", 33-9.5 BFG
 MT's.  Custom Body by Sierra Nevada.
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:33:53 -0800
 From: Kim Christianson  Subject: Trick '89 extra cab for sale
 I just found out that I'm going to be a father!  My wife is two months
 pregnant, and it won't be long before we need a 4 runner instead of my
 pickup.  So I thought that I'd put it up on the list to see if anyone
 might be interested.
 '89 xtracab: Red, SR5, V6, AC, PS, PB, Sun roof, 5 speed
 Engine:
 Balanced and blue printed block, crank, rods, and pistons.  RC
 engineering 4 mm. over throttle body, port matched upper and manifolds
 with balanced injectors.  Dan Paramore built heads ported polished, and
 reshaped chambers with Crower racing cams. Jacob's ign., custom fabed 3"
 intake pipe, and K&N cone filter.  Downey 9 lb. heavy flywheel, and
 Super Clutch.  Downey headers, 2 1/2" exhaust with 2 1/2' cat and 3
 chamber Flow Master. Remote oil filter, oil cooler, and Power steering
 cooler.  Optima deep cycle battery, and a Halmeter (air/fuel ratio
 monitor)
 Suspension:
 Front axle:  completely rebuilt and gusseted '85 front straight axle
 conversion, with Alcan 4 1/2" long travel springs and reversed u-bolts.
 Cross over steering, and dual 9000 steering stabilizers.  Stainless
 brake lines, custom shock hoops and Rancho 13" travel 9012 shocks.  Warn
 hubs, ARB diff and long travel drive shaft.
 Rear axle:  new seals and bearings.  Downey high travel kit and Rancho
 13" 9012 shocks.  4" North west off road springs, Downey 2 1/2"
 shackles, and stainless brake lines.
 Tranny/ t-case:  Rebuilt 5 speed tranny, and '95 t-case.
 Wheels/ tires:  8.50x15 Aluminum Ultra racing rims.  35"x12.50
 Goodyear Wrangler M/T's.
 Misc:  7000 lb. rear hitch, downey rear pre runner bumper, custom
 front pre runner bumper, bed liner, "2nd Seat" roll up jump seat in bed.
 Vents from axles, and tranny to engine compartment.
 interior:
 SR5 cloth int. with bucket seats.  Sun roof, and solid rear window
 (all tinted).  Pioneer premier CD/tuner (with remote), dennon 300 watt 5
 ch. amp, pioneer separates, and 8" Bazooka Bass tube.  CB, 2 xtra 12v
 outlets, and Hella air horns.
 The truck is in great shape, and has been taken care of very well.  If
 your interested give me a call        (805) 295-0980 home, (805)
 295-1992 work, or E-mail me.
 Thanks Sean Kelley.
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:37:11 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: Center Caps w/ Manual Hubs
 In a message dated 98-03-30 18:57:11 EST, you write:>>And you can run down to your local wheel shop and they'll sell you>  some>center caps that have openings for your manual locking hubs.  Get>  the>short ones that don't stick way out (they come out flush with
 the>hubs).>  These look much better in my opinion.>>>  Watch out for those caps, they are rust traps.
 Don't EVER put those chrome rust traps over/around your lock-outs.  they are
 nothing you need.  They may look good at first, but they just plain cause
 problems.
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 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:39:44 -0500
 From: "David C. Inabinet"  Subject: Re: Head Gasket Recall
 which  year was this for?
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Mashi Hasu  To: toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 6:40 PM
 Subject: Head Gasket Recall>FYI to all on the list,>>i received my official recall notice from Toyota re: V6 head gasket>replacement on Sat. i'm a little behind on my reading at the moment. so,>please excuse me if this has already been brought up on the list.>>Mashi>>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:37:13 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: jacobs ignition
 In a message dated 98-03-30 13:46:29 EST, you write:>  i have a 86 22r and would like to get a little more power, i called nwor>  and they said i should do the cam header carb thing. my truck is stock>  with 31 inch mudders i know i need to change gears to about 488 with my>  tires.but do i realy need to go that far to gain a little more power ? i>  was thinking about the jacobs system has anyone tried it? if so what do>  you think?
 Forget about the Jacobs doing much of anything to help actual performance.
 Try these things:
 - -better exhaust
 - -header
 These are the easiest ways to get some power.  You can get a header for as
 little as $110, and the exhaust will run you about $150 to $200 at the average
 shop.  Get a better muffler & some larger diameter tubing.
 If this still does not get you enought power to get by, you will need the
 gears.  The gears will help you out later if you go to larger tires (33's?)
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 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:58:39 -0500
 From: Charles Brooks  Subject: re: 383 (Long)
 John Brandt wrote:>Just my thoughts, but I would think that this plant would be overkill. Yes>I'm the guy who has been nagging about chev vs. toy, and no I don't know>alot of specific info about built chevs. The truth is, you realy don't>need this much power.
 Ummmm, are you sure? Bet you've never been in 4 feet of mud  ;)
 Also having the torque to pull a truck out of a bad situation
 can be handy too.>To tow something this heavy, that you would need>that power, it would throw the little toy all over the road (way over the>tow rating, due to weight of truck).
 I agree completely, but I don't tow anything. I do sometimes haul a load
 of dirt or gravel. The 383 would be a welcome increase in torque over
 the stock 22R for that purpose though.>You would be able to turn some heads>for sure, but it would definately be over kill in a truck that size. If>you don't want to change your gearing you better think about running some>huge tires with that low revving, torquey engine.
 Naw 35's with the stock 4.10's shoyuld do just fine. Most likely it
 would go in front of a TH700R-4 anyhow.>Forget about freeway speeds. Due to the way it was built (for towing)> this would have torque you would never realize in such a light vehicle.> Especially since it would effectively lower your gearing so much.
 I have a well built Monte carlo SS for "Highway" speeds(And then some!)
 I'm not sure I follow when you say it'll lower my effective gear ratio.
 Do you mean because of the different torque curve? If so, the 383
 produces something like three or four times the torque across the entire
 rpm range.>I'm done arguing about reliability,>the truth is the truth.
 So, you've come around?   ;)> But geez, you might as well swap in a Catarpillar>engine!
 GOOD IDEA! Seriously I've seen BUILT 350's with much more hp than this
 mild 383 sitting in Toyota pickups and they worked fine. The 383 WAS
 an option because of the price. Unfortunately, it now belongs to some
 kid :(>For those of you tired of seeing my name on swap posts, I'm no dumbass,>just an instigator. I never took anything seriously, so I'm assuming>ye'all can take things lightly too. What is a world without humor?
 Oh this list has seen a bit of humor. Ever heard of a "Turdmostat"?
 You'd be amazed at how usefull they are!>My>opinions have not changed, but I have learned a few things. I just like>pushing buttons. Sometimes that's the best way to get true answers out of>people. :-)
 Don't sweat it, we even like the annoying people ;)   (That "Delete" key
 makes me a very personable fellow)
 Charles Brooks
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:27:50 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: Header coatings
 Does anyone have any info on header coatings?  I was wanting to get a header
 coated but would like some information.  Anyone know of a rough price for a
 22RE header to get coated?  Have any more info?
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 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:59:26 -0700
 From: Rob Boyle  Subject: longer brake lines
 Does anyone out there have a low cost solution to longer break lines? I
 don't need stainless and don't want to spend big bucks. can you get
 generic lines made from auto parts store stuff? any help is appreciated.
 - --
 Rob Boyle 85 4runner
 el cheapo 33-12.5's
 el cheapo  4WPW 4" lift (3" on right side after sag)
 4.88 gears with EZ lockers F&R
 RTI so poor it wasn't worth doing the math
 New 5" alcans for the front on order!!
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:10:49 -0700
 From: Rob Boyle  Subject: longer drive shaft
 I'm gonna be picking up my new Alcans wed. and will be needing to
 lengthen my driveshaft to compensate for the 1" forward mounting. I had
 an idea I wanted to run by the list. I have a spare shaft to work with
 and was pondering the idea of welding a 1.5" piece of slip yoke to the
 existing slip yoke. I know I still only have 6" of yoke travel to work
 with, do to the 6" splined shaft. If it ends up bottoming out under
 compression it would be easy to cut a little  off the slip yoke, then
 limit droop with a strap. Is this the kind of metal you can weld? I
 would of course have it welded by an actual welder.
 - --
 Rob Boyle 85 4runner
 el cheapo 33-12.5's
 el cheapo  4WPW 4" lift (3" on right side after sag)
 4.88 gears with EZ lockers F&R
 RTI so poor it wasn't worth doing the math
 New 5" alcans for the front on order!!
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:25:36
 From: Menko Johnson  Subject: Bio
 ===========================
 Personal Bio Info
 ===========================
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name: Menko Johnson
 City & State: Claremont, CA
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: mjohnson@benson.mckenna.edu
 Toyota (s) year & model: 87 4Runner 22RE
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): no
 Age: 26
 Occupation: Student
 Marital Status: single
 Hobbies: Rock Climbing, Snowboarding, Kayaking and Camping
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: off-road.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: I just bought my 4Runner a few months ago primarily as a vehicle to get through the snow with high clearance to get to the remote put-ins i do for kayaking.  But now i'm hooked and trying to learn more and more about trucks.  i'm considering headers and a new exhaust system (mine is rusted out) but this truck has 227K mi on it so will need a rebuild soon.  I look forward to learning more and getting into 4x4s.
 Menko Johnson (mjohnson@benson.mckenna.edu)
 Kravis Leadership Institute
 (909) 621-8743 or 607-7030
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:25:51 -0600
 From: "Terry L. Bush"  Subject: Re: Center Caps w/ Manual Hubs
 Thanks everybody for the good info. (I definitely don't need any more rust
 on this truck)
 I mentioned that I called and even went by a Toyota dealership.
 They said no-way.
 So that is  when I posted the original E-mail.
 Ken said in a reply  E-mail,
 "Just go to Toyota and tell them that you have the factory aluminum
 wheels and you need the front plastic trim pieces that go around the
 front manual hubs. I have three Toyotas sitting around the house here,
 an '86, an '87, and a '94 with ADD, so I am familiar with what you are
 talking about.   And yes, the wheels are all the same from 1986-1995."
 Right on Ken,
 I went to a different Toyota dealership and they let me look at the center
 cap options, and I was easily able to pick out the caps I was looking for.
 You can most definitely get the black plastic SR-5 center caps for a manual
 hub. I have ordered them and they should be here tomorrow.
 I also needed to order new rear caps, the ones I received are in excellent
 condition but have the new Toyota logo instead of Toyota written out on the
 cap. I believe the 87's had Toyota written out, so I want to stay as
 original as possible.
 Anybody need 4 center caps for auto hub SR-5 wheels?
 Thanks again for all the good info. regarding this issue.
 I guess now it's time to get my fingers bloody polishing these new wheels.
 Terry Bush
 tbush@kctera.net
 - ----------> From: DRM033 > To: toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: Re: Center Caps w/ Manual Hubs> Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 7:37 PM>> In a message dated 98-03-30 18:57:11 EST, you write:>>>>And you can run down to your local wheel shop and they'll sell you>>  some>center caps that have openings for your manual locking hubs.  Get>>  the>short ones that don't stick way out (they come out flush with> the>hubs).>>  These look much better in my opinion.>>>>>>  Watch out for those caps, they are rust traps.>> Don't EVER put those chrome rust traps over/around your lock-outs.  they
 are> nothing you need.  They may look good at first, but they just plain cause> problems.>> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 - --> -> David Moore                                  DRM033@aol.com>                           TLCA #5662>            Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club>                   www.netmatter.com/traxx> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:34:52 -0600
 From: "Terry L. Bush"  Subject: Re: Jacob's ignition
 I have an 87 Ext-Cab 4x4 Truck with 22R.
 I was interested in hearing the followups on this one, since I want more
 power too.
 What brand headers do you suggest?      price?
 What exhaust would be the best, but still quiet.       price?
 What about the Cat Convert?
 Would the Jacob's be a good addition to the headers and exhaust?
 If so do you need all of the Jacob's stuff? (I think they sell a super
 coil, some kind of computer, and something called an Omni pack.)  I am sure
 a new set of Jacob's wires, along with new cap and rotor and plugs would be
 good too.
 Look forward to the advice.
 Thanks
 tbush@kctera.net
 - ----------> From: DRM033 > To: toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: Re: jacobs ignition> Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 7:37 PM>> In a message dated 98-03-30 13:46:29 EST, you write:>>>>  i have a 86 22r and would like to get a little more power, i called
 nwor>>  and they said i should do the cam header carb thing. my truck is stock>>  with 31 inch mudders i know i need to change gears to about 488 with
 my>>  tires.but do i realy need to go that far to gain a little more power ?
 i>>  was thinking about the jacobs system has anyone tried it? if so what
 do>>  you think?>> Forget about the Jacobs doing much of anything to help actual
 performance.> Try these things:> -better exhaust> -header>> These are the easiest ways to get some power.  You can get a header for
 as> little as $110, and the exhaust will run you about $150 to $200 at the
 average> shop.  Get a better muffler & some larger diameter tubing.> If this still does not get you enought power to get by, you will need the> gears.  The gears will help you out later if you go to larger tires
 (33's?)>> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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 - --> ->> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:47:24 -0600
 From: "Terry L. Bush"  Subject: 98 Tacoma Limited Ext-CabTRD vs. 87 Ext-Cab Deluxe.
 I mentioned that I just bought the new Tacoma Limited Ext-Cab TRD.
 Awesome machine!
 But I still have the 87 Ext-Cab Deluxe 4x4 Truck.
 I know it doesn't make any sense, but the 87 is begging me to drive it.
 It is telling me to cater to it. Bring it back to it's glory. Constantly
 saying to me "hey I am better than that fancy new truck." I love driving
 this old truck!!!!!
 The ladies like the new truck, so it is a good purchase.
 Tbush@kctera.net
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:58:23 -0800
 From: "Sandy and Terry"  Subject: No. Cal. Snow Run
 El Nino has continued to drop snow in the Sierras.  Anyone interested in a
 snow run Easter weekend?  Sat. April 11 we will meet at the B.K. lounge
 (Burger King) in Angels Camp at 9:00 a.m. on Hwy 4.
 Anyone interested or for more info should email me direct.
 Terry Johnson
 santer@ix.netcom.com
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:31:19 -0600
 From: "Steve C."  Subject: Re: longer brake lines
 Rob Boyle wrote:>> Does anyone out there have a low cost solution to longer break lines? I> don't need stainless and don't want to spend big bucks. can you get> generic lines made from auto parts store stuff? any help is appreciated.> --
 Try a hydraulic hose shop, have some rubber ones made up.  should not be
 terribly expensive
 - --
 Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
 stevecapuano@geocities.com	32x11.50x15 BFG MT
 Houston, Texas			Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 Edelbrock headers
 NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:07:21 -0500
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: RE: Jacob's ignition
 The stock Toyota unit Is good enough for normally aspirated application and
 stock compression ratio. You would hardly notice any improvement if there's
 any.  If you upgrade from point type or weak stock ignition it might make a
 lot of difference though. My friend has it in his CJ, it make a lot of
 difference but not on Toyota. I  have energy pack in my Samurai, it also
 did not produce any noticeable improvement. (maybe it is noticeable in high
 performance engine run on the dyno)
 If you want to spend $200-$300 you might better of with the new power
 filter from K&N, it replace the filter box and piping with  a more
 aerodynamic unit.
 The header would definitely help. So is a high flow cat.
 - -----Original Message-----
 Would the Jacob's be a good addition to the headers and exhaust?  If so do
 you need all of the Jacob's stuff? (I think they sell a super coil, some
 kind of computer, and something called an Omni pack.)  I am sure a new set
 of Jacob's wires, along with new cap and rotor and plugs would be good too.
 Look forward to the advice.
 Thanks
 tbush@kctera.net
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:08:39 +0000 (GMT)
 From: knight@atmos.albany.edu (David J. Knight)
 Subject: center caps
 I assume the stock toy center caps on a 94 pickup with manual
 hubs and steel wheels are only cosmetic. It looks like the
 front ones *may* protect the hub at little, but I doubt it.
 Do the center wheel caps have any functional value at all?
 How about more harm than good - I notice the dreaded cone washers
 and associated nuts got rusty behind them.
 David Knight
 knight@atmos.albany.edu
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:50:58 -0500
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: RE: Header coatings
 I think they charge about $160 for 4 cylinder header. But I am not sure.
 Try http://www.jet-hot.com
 They will arrange the pickup and delivery for you.
 - -----Original Message-----
 Does anyone have any info on header coatings?  I was wanting to get a header
 coated but would like some information.  Anyone know of a rough price for a
 22RE header to get coated?  Have any more info?
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 Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:51:57 -0600
 From: Robert Stein  Subject: Re: Header coatings
 DRM033 wrote:>> Does anyone have any info on header coatings?  I was wanting to get a header> coated but would like some information.  Anyone know of a rough price for a> 22RE header to get coated?  Have any more info?>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> -> David Moore                                  DRM033@aol.com>                           TLCA #5662>            Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 David ,,,Back in my old hot rod days, we did our own header coating by
 heating the tubes with either a propane torch or if available, a large
 oven. After getting the tubes good and hot, we simplied sprayed the
 headers with either stove paint or just high temp header paint. IF you
 do it this way, also spray as much of the INSIDE of the tubs as you can
 also with high temp black paint. Don't ask me why , but it really helps
 keep the outer paint in better shape  .
 We mostly pained ours black, but have done a few in high temp white
 whith lasting results....
 Hope this helps :)
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 Robert Stein    rjstein@lawtonok.net           `85 SR5 X-Tra Cab
 rrbbs@juno.com                  STOCK 22R-E Motor
 Lawton,Okla     rjstein@wolverine.cameron.edu   12+" Lift<3"body> http://www.lawtonok.net/rjstein/toyota.html    33x14.50x15 Mickey's
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:13:11 -0500
 From: "David"  Subject: TRD clutch
 Does anybody have a TRD clutch.  Toyota dealer swears that it should last
 50-80k.  However, it is rather expensive.  Also, how does it differ from
 Centerforce, Downy, etc.  Does Toyota manufacture TRD products or they just
 slap a label on them ?
 Dave
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:18:10 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: Jacob's ignition
 In a message dated 98-03-30 23:40:33 EST, you write:> I have an 87 Ext-Cab 4x4 Truck with 22R.>  I was interested in hearing the followups on this one, since I want more>  power too.>  What brand headers do you suggest?      price?
 A friend just got a PaceSetter header from JC Whitney for his 84 22R for $109.
 So far, so good.  It had a leaky header on it already, so I can't compare the
 difference between a header & stock manifold.  I am going to get one fo these
 PaceSetter headers for my 22RE soon ($129) and will probably have is coated.>  What exhaust would be the best, but still quiet.       price?
 Just about anything with a better flowing muffler & larger tubing (within
 reason) will help.  A local shop is much cheaper that pre-made kits, and you
 can tell them what you want & where you want it.>  What about the Cat Convert?
 When you get the exhaust done, have the shop show you the cat & tell you if it
 is clogged or otherwise restrictive.  Make sure they SHOW you - otherwise they
 may just sell you one to make money.>  Would the Jacob's be a good addition to the headers and exhaust?
 Some others on the list could better explain ignition systems, but I will try
 to give a short one.  Ignition systems are thigs that can only do one thing:
 work best for that engine.  If it is performing below this, you will suffer.
 I think a Jacobs systen is a waste on a stock Toy engine.  I got some Magnecor
 wires ($60) & I love them.  They work great, and even eliminated ignition
 noise bleed through in my stereo (try their web site for some good info on
 ignition stuff www.magnecor.com).
 Good wires, good plugs properly gapped, a good coil, (and working ignitor)
 should do all you need.> along with new cap and rotor and plugs would be>  good too.
 Cap & rotor are other things that are easy & cheap to make sure they work to
 their best.
 After looking around, I say stay away from all of these companies that claim
 rediculous improvements from just adding a set of plug wires.  I had a set of
 SplitFire wires, and they came apart the first time I tried to remove them
 (only on 5 months).
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 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:31:38 -0800
 From: "Sandy and Terry"  Subject: Re: TRD clutch>Does anybody have a TRD clutch.  Toyota dealer swears that it should last>50-80k.  However, it is rather expensive.  Also, how does it differ from>Centerforce, Downy, etc.  Does Toyota manufacture TRD products or they just>slap a label on them ?>Dave> 50K - 80K miles isn't very much mileage for a clutch.  My '89 has a 148K on
 the original clutch (knock on wood here.)  The last 25K has been with
 lockers, 33" tires, running with 5.29 gears.  When my clutch does need
 replacing I'm considering the Downy or an OEM.  Heck with a 148K on an OEM
 why should I mess with anything different?  Also, a guy at work has over
 200K on his clutch which is his daily driver.
 I believe Toyota does not manufacture TRD parts.
 Terry Johnson
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:59:06 -0600
 From: "Jonathan Miller"  Subject: Re:Torsions
 I would disagree with the fact that the 26mm torsions "break-in" and then
 ride smoother than stock, based on my experience.  I ran the larger
 torsions from NWOR for about 2 years and they always gave a stiff ride, no
 matter what setting they were adjusted to.  When I finally swapped the
 stock torsions back in, I couldn't believe how much smoother the ride was.
 Of course I was running either 35" or 38" tires (BFG Muds or Swampers)
 during the 2 years, so my ride was not that great anyway.  I was also
 running ProComp 4" Suspension lift, so that may make my situation a little
 different also.
 Be careful of cranking up the stock torsions for more lift, as it
 frequently strips out the threads on the torsion bar adjusting bolts.  I
 have seen several trucks in this condition (And I have had to replace the
 bad bolts, which is a pain!)
 Jonathan Miller
 miller@netdoor.com
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:23:11 -0500
 From: "Dan Schein" Subject: 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 To date the list has been a big help in my 'low-cost' Hilux repair project,
 thanks. Its an 86 4x4 w/carb 22R and I have another 4 questions that I come
 to the list seeking advice on.
 Is the slave cylinder for the clutch supposed to have a return spring on
 it? (Mine doesn't)
 Can the alternator be removed without draining the cooling fluid? Hayes
 manual says no. (Mine has a bearing whine)
 My oil pump is leaking along the lower seal (near the oil pan). Is it
 possible to remove the pump and replace the "O" ring in the truck without
 having to pull the radiator? Biggest problem I see getting the pulley
 off....
 My air conditioner does not work (compressor does not engage). Jumped the
 compressor and the clutch is good. Checked the fuse behind the glove box,
 its good. Where are all the other sensors (low-pressure, temperature, etc)
 located? I'd like to check them all before I put liquid gold (R-12) into
 the system. I think its low on freon and that's why its not running.
 Since I have not been getting archives for a few days, please respond to
 this account 'dschein@awiweb.com' or 'schein@juno.com' in addition to the
 list. Thanks!
 - -Dan
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:41:06 -0700
 From: "Brunner, David"  Subject: RE: 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 Hmmmm.. I'm not sure why they'd say that.. seems like there's enough
 room to get the alternator off without a whole lot of trouble...>---------->From: 	Dan Schein[SMTP:dschein@awiweb.com]>Sent: 	Tuesday, March 31, 1998 5:23 AM>To: 	toy4x4@tlca.org>Subject: 	4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup>>>>Can the alternator be removed without draining the cooling fluid? Hayes>manual says no. (Mine has a bearing whine)
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 07:56:00 -0500
 From: Rosenberger Bud  Subject: RE: TRD clutch
 David wrote:
 Also, how does it differ from Centerforce, Downy, etc.
 Just my experience, I love my Downey Super Clutch.  Have one in my older
 truck and just bought another for my daily driver.  32" tires and no
 gears is a bit tougher on a clutch and they seem to be up to the task.  I
 didn't hesitate a minute when my clutch blew ( original with 167K on it!)
 Easiest decision I've made about my truck.  Now if I could just decide
 on gears/lockers/lifts/tires...  :)
 Bud R
 85 longbed
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:28:39 -0800
 From: David Fritzsche  Subject: Tuff Country Sus. Lift
 "From what the guy said ALL the parts are single pieces.  There are NO welds
 in the kit,  thus making it more
 sturdier than most of the other ones."
 Is he implying that welds are weak? Every welding class that I have every
 taken I was always told that something properly welded-"That joint is stronger
 then the metal around it". If these guys are are joined with Tuff Country that
 is what they are going to push.
 Go talk to people who have lifts on there rigs and see what they say, find out
 how they use them and then make your own decision on what to buy based on the
 info that you have received from end users.
 There were thing about all of them that I liked and I went with the Pro-Comp
 II because it looked stronger to me, But you have to drop the Diff. down-So
 you do not gain any ground clearance. I think if I was to do it over I would
 go with the Rancho/Downey Kit, you do not drop the front Diff. Or maybe spend
 the money on a solid front axle conversion w/ 4" springs and cross-over
 steering and ARB locker.
 David Fritzsche 1990 V-6 Ex-Cab, 4:88 gears, Tru-Trak front, ARB rear, Marlin
 Gear change, Pro-Comp II, NWOR 4" rear springs, Rancho 9000's, 33" BFG MT's on
 8" rims, Warn 8000 winch. Custom made winch mount, rear bumper, CB mount
 Re-worked Smittybuilt nerf bars. All designed and built by owner-(MAN ! I hope
 they don't fall off)
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:56:14 -0600
 From: Keith & Christy  Subject: 3.4L Where a 3.0 Should Be
 Has there been any discussion regarding swapping a new 3.4L for the
 older 3.0L (I am sure that it would be expesive)?  Does the 3.4 use the
 same 5speed tranny as the 3.0?  I am interested in boosting the hp of my
 '91 3.0, but I am not willing to sacrifice reliability for it.  Is there
 a supercharger available for the 3.0?  I am not looking for a whole lot
 more hp, 190 would suit me fine (Truth to tell, there hasn't been
 anything the 3.0 wouldn't do), and I might be happy with intake &
 exhaust mods to get there.  TIA
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:20:14 -0000
 From: runars@isbank.is
 Subject: RE: TRD clutch
 For what gearboxes do those super cluches fit?
 W56?
 One in a search for some new one.
 Runar.> -----Original Message-----> From:	Rosenberger Bud [SMTP:rosenber@lumsys.com]> Sent:	Tuesday, March 31, 1998 12:56 PM> To:	mail@UUCP {Toy4x4@tlca.org}> Subject:	RE: TRD clutch>>> David wrote:>  Also, how does it differ from Centerforce, Downy, etc.>>>> Just my experience, I love my Downey Super Clutch.  Have one in my> older> truck and just bought another for my daily driver.  32" tires and no>> gears is a bit tougher on a clutch and they seem to be up to the task.> I> didn't hesitate a minute when my clutch blew ( original with 167K on> it!)>  Easiest decision I've made about my truck.  Now if I could just> decide> on gears/lockers/lifts/tires...  :)>> Bud R> 85 longbed>> ======================================================================> ======> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:52:45 -0700
 From: Rob Boyle  Subject: Re: TRD clutch
 runars@isbank.is wrote:>> For what gearboxes do those super cluches fit?> W56?>>>>> ======================================================================>> ======>> ========================================================================
 Downey seems to have one part number for the superclutch that spans 79
 through 92 4wd's with 4cyl. I love my superclutch! they sell for 225
 bucks, less than a centerforce.
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 Rob Boyle 85 4runner
 el cheapo 33-12.5's
 el cheapo  4WPW 4" lift (3" on right side after sag)
 4.88 gears with EZ lockers F&R
 RTI so poor it wasn't worth doing the math
 New 5" alcans for the front on order!!
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:56:37 -0700
 From: Rob Boyle  Subject: Re: 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 Dan Schein wrote:  Where are all the other sensors (low-pressure,
 temperature, etc)> located? I'd like to check them all before I put liquid gold (R-12) into> the system. I think its low on freon and that's why its not running.
 - -- Dan, if you need any parts to finish you project my 85 has all the AC
 stuff but the compressor. You can have what you want for shipping
 ( unless the part is a real bear to get too).
 Rob Boyle 85 4runner
 el cheapo 33-12.5's
 el cheapo  4WPW 4" lift (3" on right side after sag)
 4.88 gears with EZ lockers F&R
 RTI so poor it wasn't worth doing the math
 New 5" alcans for the front on order!!
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:52:24 -0800
 From: Dan Merrick  Subject: Re: EGR GOOP
 The EGR system will always have lots of soot and carbon inside it. EGR
 stands for exhaust gas recirculation, and for smog purposes, basically
 sends exhaust from the exhaust manifold back into the intake manifold.
 These systems are notorious for getting plugged up, etc. Check where the
 EGR plumbing meets the intake manifold: unbolt the flange, and I would not
 be surprised if the passage is partially, if not completely, blocked with
 carbon. Spend some time and clean the whole system. Check the function of
 the EGR valve: a good repair manual tells you how. Basically, you apply
 vacuum to one of the ports in the valve, while the engine is running, and
 see if the engine idles rough or stalls, then you know the valve is
 working. The valves are expensive, $150 and up form Toyota. Don't forget to
 replace any gaskets you need. Also, I hear that Permatex gasket remover
 works great for removing carbon buildup---anyone ever tried it?>Anybody know why my egr plumbing has oily goop inside it?  I pulled it off>expecting to find it full of soot and carbon,  guess I got the bonus plan.
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:06:51 -0500
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: RE: 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 - -----Original Message-----
 Can the alternator be removed without draining the cooling fluid? Hayes
 manual says no. (Mine has a bearing whine)>I don't think it is possible on power steering equipped truck. It would be
 much easier if you just disconnect the lower radiator hose. I f you do not
 have power steering it might be possible to pull it up.
 My oil pump is leaking along the lower seal (near the oil pan). Is it
 possible to remove the pump and replace the "O" ring in the truck without
 having to pull the radiator? Biggest problem I see getting the pulley
 off....> it would be much easier if you remove the radiator. It is only 8 bolts, 4
 12mm bolts and 4 10mm bolts to remove the shroud. I just change my water
 pump last week and it only took me 100 minutes to complete it, with a few
 breaks included.
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:04:42 -0500
 From: Jeff Tamulis  Subject: Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #793> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:01:33 EST> From: CowbyUp77 > Subject: Ford V8 Swap>> Can anybody tell me if the '85 Toy tranny can handle the Ford 5.0L??> I put a 5.0 into a 1987 4Runner, with the T-5 Tranny.  I would have the stock 5-speed rebuilt and beefed up by a good
 tranny shop.  I think it will work provided you don't run it hard, or you use a non-torquey 5.0 motor.  The problem is
 that
 the stock 5-speed can handle about 150ftlbs of torque, and the 5.0 motor puts out about 300.  So if you rev it up to
 about
 3,000 and dump the clutch, you'll leave the tranny on the ground.  Kinda sucks eh?  On a lighter note, your transmission
 will break before your rear axle. 8-)
 Good luck
 Jtamulis@sph.unc.edu (email if you have more questions)
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:10:44 -0800
 From: Dan Merrick  Subject: TIRED OLD ENGINE FOR SALE!
 I have a complete '85 22R engine for sale. The engine was just pulled from
 my truck. It has little or no compression in the #2 cylinder(bad valve?). I
 just dropped in a used junkyard engine, and I decided I would post the old
 engine for sale on the Toyota Page before returning it to the junkyard for
 the $100 core charge.
 The engine has 175K miles on it. It still ran okay, before I pulled it out,
 but I would suggest using it as a rebuild project. It has the carb, intake
 manifold, complete long block, exhaust manifold, flywheel, clutch, most of
 the smog stuff, no alt or starter. The carb is an '87, but the rest of the
 stuff is '85.
 Or, if you need some random parts from the engine, let me know. I'll pull
 'em off for you, so long as it's not internal engine parts. The EGR valve
 is only a year old!
 Price is $100 for the engine, since that's what the core charge is from the
 junkyard. I am located in the East Bay Area(Pleasanton) of California.
 E-mail me direct if you are interested...
 Dan
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:17:33 -0700
 From: Jim Walters  Subject: Introduction -- new to list
 Hi,
 I am new to this list.  After being without a 4wd rig for umpteen years,
 I went out and purchased a 1987 4Runner to beat around the hills.
 Having owned a Jeep way back when, I am thrilled with where I can go in
 my stock runner.  I did build a pair of disconnects for the sway bars on
 the IFS.  Those give me much better articulation.  And I can pull a
 couple of pins when I need the independent suspension and put them back
 eaqsily for safety on the streets.
 I also cranked up the front torsion bars putting the front end back to
 stock level or a bit higher.  Low profile upper bumpers give just a bit
 more room for the suspension to move.  The addition of Rough Country's
 add-a-leafs in the rear has the vehicle sitting level.
 The rig came with a two tube bumper -- with a hitch connection.
 However, it was installed with a mickey mouse weld job which broke so
 the bumper  fell off when I drug it on some rocks last week.  I tried
 reinforcing it, but didn't get it strong enough and broke the mounts
 again when pulling out some trees.  Does anyone have a strong rear
 bumper that uses a combination of the origonal mounting brackets plus
 brackets that fit into the frame?  I want to get that bumper on so that
 I can use a jack on it when and if necessary.  I also want it strong
 enough for towing or to hook onto to pull the vehicle out of somewhere
 if necessary.
 I'll lurk here for a while.  I would like to hear reports from people
 who have installed limited slip or lockers.  I am looking, but I don't
 want to sacrifice too much, both $$ and handling/noise.  I would like to
 get some places that I can't without more traction. Perhaps I should
 replace the nice highway Michelins with something more appropriate for
 off-road.  When they wear out or end up with a rock through the
 sidewall, I will get something better suited to back-country driving.
 Jim
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:06:43 +0200
 From: "Barry Miller"  Subject: Re: Toyota 4x4 digest: V1 #790>>Subject:    	Strange acting fuel gauge!!!
 You will probably find the thin coil of wire wound around a piece of plastic has
 worn away in one spot on the fuel sender, where a slider rubs against it.
 I took mine out and soldered the bits together . The gauge works fine and is only
 slightly less accurate than before.
 Barry
 Barry Miller
 PO Box 4172, Durban .South Africa . 4000
 Fax +27 <31> 833-202
 alias bmiller@iaccess.za
 alias bmiller@iafrica.com
 Cellphone <082>967-1998
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:21:56 -0800 (PST)
 From: Luke P Miller  Subject: Re: longer brake lines
 I tried to find extended length rubber lines for cheap, but there just
 weren't any easy options. One guy in a hyrdalic hose shop said he could
 feasibly make them, but they wouldn't be legal, and therefore didn't want
 to do it. Kind of a hint-hint, wink-wink, nudge-nudge deal that I didn't
 feel like going through. I ended up with stainless lines from Superlift,
 from Dick Cepek. The rear line was around thirty dollars, and I can't
 remember how much the package of two front lines was (40 or 70 dollars).
 They weren't the cheapest things on earth, but they did bolt right up, no
 adapters needed, and they firmed up the pedal nicely.
 On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Rob Boyle wrote:> Does anyone out there have a low cost solution to longer break lines? I> don't need stainless and don't want to spend big bucks. can you get> generic lines made from auto parts store stuff? any help is appreciated.> --> Rob Boyle 85 4runner> el cheapo 33-12.5's> el cheapo  4WPW 4" lift (3" on right side after sag)> 4.88 gears with EZ lockers F&R> RTI so poor it wasn't worth doing the math> New 5" alcans for the front on order!!>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> Luke Miller
 __________________________________________________________________________
 1985 4Runner 3"Alcan front lift, 3" custom Mazda spring rear lift, 4.88's,
 rear lockright, RS 9000's, 32x11.50 Michelins, ugly homemade bumpers (the
 best kind)...
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:34:51 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Introduction -- new to list>  Does anyone have a strong rear bumper that uses a combination of the origonal> mounting brackets plus brackets that fit into the frame?
 I had a custom rear bumper made for my truck. Pictures
 here:http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/bumper/bumper.html> I am looking, but I don't want to sacrifice too much, both $$ and> handling/noise.  I would like to> get some places that I can't without more traction.
 Consider getting a True Trac limited slip for the rear end. They run about $400
 + install labor.
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:48:49 -0800
 From: Kevin Valentine  Subject: Re: 98 Tacoma Limited Ext-CabTRD vs. 87 Ext-Cab Deluxe.
 Terry wrote: I mentioned that I just bought the new Tacoma Limited
 Ext-Cab TRD.
 Awesome machine!
 But I still have the 87 Ext-Cab Deluxe 4x4 Truck.
 I know it doesn't make any sense, but the 87 is begging me to drive it.
 It is telling me to cater to it. Bring it back to it's glory. Constantly
 saying to me "hey I am better than that fancy new truck." I love driving
 this old truck!!!!!
 Hey Terry I'd be happy to drive your 87 around to satify its needs :-)
 My '88 4-Runner V6 is on the fritz again.  Sounds like the same problem
 as I had back in October.  It had broke a valve spring and ended up
 costing me over $1200.00  My MR2 has a cronic overheating problem too,
 so needless to say I'm not a happy camper.
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:04:17 -0700
 From: "Ben Curtis Lin"  Subject: '91 Toyota 22RE
 To whom it may concern;
 I was inquiring about the changeover of the differential gearing in a 1991 Toyota
 Truck 22RE Engine 4WD.  I am interested in how much acceleration I will gain by swapping
 in different gears to correspond with 33" x 12.5" BFG MT's
 Currently stock drivetrain.  Does anyone know of any inexpensive sources that provided
 good quality crafstmanship.
 Jeff Pirosko (e-mail piro7938@kettering.edu)
 Get your FREE, private e-mail
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:18:52 -0800
 From: Ben Harrison  Subject: Re: '91 Toyota 22RE
 I'm also interested in the same.  I have an 89 4runner v6, w/ 33x12.5
 thornbirds.  Some more bottom end would be nice.  maybe even easier on the
 mpg's.
 At 05:04 PM 3/31/98 -0700, you wrote:>To whom it may concern;>>I was inquiring about the changeover of the differential gearing in a 1991
 Toyota>Truck 22RE Engine 4WD.  I am interested in how much acceleration I will
 gain by swapping>in different gears to correspond with 33" x 12.5" BFG MT's>Currently stock drivetrain.  Does anyone know of any inexpensive sources
 that provided>good quality crafstmanship.>>Jeff Pirosko (e-mail piro7938@kettering.edu)>>>>>>Get your FREE, private e-mail>account at http://www.mailcity.com>>============================================================================>Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ============================================================================
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:26:25 -0700
 From: Tony Bartlett  Subject: Alcan springs
 What a difference putting on a wider rear axle (IFS) on solid axle
 trucks.
 My friend has Alcan springs all the way around and before the rear axle
 swap was able to back up a loading dock around 32 inches (vertical),
 with rear tires hitting frame.  Now with the wider axle he is backing up
 the whole loading dock, 42 inches vertical.
 Running 4" Alcans with longer shackles all the way around with 1" blocks
 in the rear.  He is also running only 10" shocks in the front.  Would
 love to see it with some 13" travel shocks up front.
 He also has a 2" body lift running 36 Swamper Radials.
 I will get some pictures while in Moab over Easter Safari.
 Toyota Tony
 http://www.digitalpla.net/~offroader
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:45:56 -0500
 From: Chris Caldwell  Subject: Rosser event
 Hey David,
 Did you get a chance to ride the trails for the roundup? If you did,
 what do you think? I'm curious to know your opinion on the trails marked
 as #3.
 Chris
 caldwell@vol.com
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:03:31 -0500
 From: "Ernie Arias"  Subject: erratic idle
 I have an '86 Toy with a 22r that will not idle after 10 -15 minutes of
 driving in cold damp weather.  The engine will run fine till the truck comes
 to a stop then the idle becomes erratic and stalls.  The engine will start
 right back up but wont idle, a little pressure on the gas pedal will keep it
 running.  After about 25 - 30 minutes the engine idles fine.  I suspect it's
 a condensation problem but can't figure out where.  I have done a complete
 tune up (plugs, rotor,cap...).  Does anyone have any ideas?
 Ernie
 '86 Toyota std. bed
 22R
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:52:11 -0700
 From: Rob Boyle  Subject: Re: longer brake lines
 Luke P Miller wrote:>> I tried to find extended length rubber lines for cheap, but there just> weren't any easy options
 - -- OK heres a long shot, do you think there is a fitting I could use to
 connect two rubber break lines together thus making them twice as long?
 I checked with the hydraulic hose places and got lots of NO's on made to
 order rubber hose
 Rob Boyle 85 4runner
 el cheapo 33-12.5's
 el cheapo  4WPW 4" lift (3" on right side after sag)
 4.88 gears with EZ lockers F&R
 RTI so poor it wasn't worth doing the math
 New 5" alcans for the front on order!!
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:54:20 -0800
 From: "Todd and Terry Steele"  Subject: Re: Introduction -- new to list
 Jim Walters wrote:>However, it was installed with a mickey mouse weld job which broke so>the
 bumper  fell off when I drug it on some rocks last week.  I tried>reinforcing it, but didn't get it strong enough and broke the mounts>again when pulling out some trees.  Does anyone have a strong rear>bumper that uses a combination of the origonal mounting brackets
 plus>brackets that fit into the frame?
 Build your own.  A friend and I built mine with 3", 3/16 wall square tubing.
 3/8" plate brackets with triangulation supports.  Has a 2" receiver tube and
 hi lift mount.  Total cost was about $80.00 which included $56.00 for the
 brackets to be cut.
 Todd
 His:  87 Toyota 4X4, Marlin Tcase #180, EZ Lockers F/R, Warn MX8000, Custom
 rear bumper and nerfs, Ramsey F bumper, Trailmaster/Superlift 4", 33-9.5 BFG
 MT's.  Custom Body by Sierra Nevada.
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:09:31 -0600
 From: "Terry L. Bush"  Subject: Re: Header coatings
 What does a coating provide?
 - ----------> From: Robert Stein > To: toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: Re: Header coatings> Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 11:51 PM>> DRM033 wrote:>>>> Does anyone have any info on header coatings?  I was wanting to get a
 header>> coated but would like some information.  Anyone know of a rough price
 for a>> 22RE header to get coated?  Have any more info?>>>> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 - -->> ->> David Moore                                  DRM033@aol.com>>                           TLCA #5662>>            Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club>> David ,,,Back in my old hot rod days, we did our own header coating by> heating the tubes with either a propane torch or if available, a large> oven. After getting the tubes good and hot, we simplied sprayed the> headers with either stove paint or just high temp header paint. IF you> do it this way, also spray as much of the INSIDE of the tubs as you can> also with high temp black paint. Don't ask me why , but it really helps> keep the outer paint in better shape  turning blue , old scooter trick> .>   We mostly pained ours black, but have done a few in high temp white> whith lasting results....>   Hope this helps :)> --> Robert Stein    rjstein@lawtonok.net           `85 SR5 X-Tra Cab>                 rrbbs@juno.com                  STOCK 22R-E Motor> Lawton,Okla     rjstein@wolverine.cameron.edu   12+" Lift<3"body>> http://www.lawtonok.net/rjstein/toyota.html    33x14.50x15 Mickey's>>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:51:24 -0800
 From: "Todd and Terry Steele"  Subject: Re: 4 Questions on 86 4x4 Pickup
 Dan Schein wrote:>Is the slave cylinder for the clutch supposed to have a return spring
 on>it? (Mine doesn't)
 No>Can the alternator be removed without draining the cooling fluid?
 Hayes>manual says no. (Mine has a bearing whine)
 Yes, takes some manuvering.  Even with power steering.>My oil pump is leaking along the lower seal (near the oil pan). Is it>possible to remove the pump and replace the "O" ring in the truck
 without>having to pull the radiator? Biggest problem I see getting the
 pulley>off....
 It's possible, depends on how tight your pulley is.  Did this same job 3
 weeks ago but I can rock the pulley off of mine.
 Todd
 His:  87 Toyota 4X4, Marlin Tcase #180, EZ Lockers F/R, Warn MX8000, Custom
 rear bumper and nerfs, Ramsey F bumper, Trailmaster/Superlift 4", 33-9.5 BFG
 MT's.  Custom Body by Sierra Nevada.
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:28:47 -0500 (EST)
 From: The Extreme  Subject: exhaust
 hello all,
 just a quick question, what is the best exhaust I can get without headers
 on the truck...right now I have a 1991 V-6 with a single exhaust and am
 thinking that soon it will need to be replaced and I want to transfer to
 dual if possible. I found one system and it is only like 200 for the whole
 set. It is a Pace Setter TFX I believe but am not sure and will give 20
 more horses, but any suggestions for me????
 Patrick
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:24:30 -1000 (HST)
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: Re: For Sale
 I've been thinking of getting a set of those speakers. How do you like
 them? I've still go tthe cheapo factory speakers.
 ej@off-road.com   http://www.off-road.com/~ej
 On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Robert Lambden wrote:> I am upgrading my speakers in my 86 truck, so I am offering the following speakers for sale. Pioneer TS-1018, 4'' dash mount 2-way, 2-10 watts RMS, 40 watts peak power handling. These speakers have great sound and are direct fit for the dash openings of 1984-1995 Toyota pickups and 4Runners (will not fit 95-98 Tacomas or any T100 trucks). These speakers will plug onto the factory wiring harness. I am asking $45 for the pair, with the buyer to pay shipping costs.> Also, I have four 15 x 6", 6 lug, Toyota factory chrome rims in fair condition, including 24 chrome lug nuts, for $60 plus the cost of shipping.>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ============================================================================
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:06:53 -0500
 From: Jeff Tamulis  Subject: V8 4Runner
 Hello all,
 This is my announcement concerning my 1987 Toyota 4Runner.  As most
 of you know, I have been spending the last
 several months designing a Ford Mustang Powered Toyota 4Runner.  I've
 completed the swap, and even tho the computer
 is running in "limp home mode" it still runs and runs great.  It has
 LOTS of power, far far more than the 22R (stock 4cyl)
 Motor ever had.  I just got the exhaust done, and have spent most of the
 afternoon giving it small tests (driving to store,
 etc.)  I've invested a lot of money into my truck, and all through the
 swap I was leary about weather or not this would
 come out to be an enjoyable truck.  I have no fears now, as it drives
 very respectfully, and has a good bit of power.  My
 Only concern now of course is BRAKES.  I'm gonna look into the best
 brakes on the market.  "Limp home mode" is a
 mode the Ford computer goes into when all is not right (I don't have
 oxygen sensors in yet, thats tomarrow).  What that
 does is retard the timing, and bumps the mixture real rich, and basicly
 makes the car run like dirt, but it will let you
 "limp" home (hence the name).  Well, I have been told that it runs at
 about 33% power in limp home mode.  If that is
 true, I'm in for a big suprize when it starts running right.  I consider
 it NOW to have the right power range for the truck.
 Its not too over powered, and sounds great.  Talk to ya all later, email
 if you have questions.
 Jeff
 jtamulis@sph.unc.edu
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:22:49 -0600
 From: "joe whittington"  Subject: personal bio info
 Name: Joe Whittington
 City & State: Biloxi, MS
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: whittinj@datasync.com
 Toyota (s) year & model: 87 4x4 x-tra cab
 Are you a TLCA Member?  no
 Age: 26
 Occupation: USAF
 Marital Status: M w/ 1
 Hobbies: Hiking, outdoors, sports
 How did you hear about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: a friend
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:  this is my first toyota truck
 and i really like it. look forward to all the possibilities.  also hope to
 learn a tip or two from the rest of the list. thanks.
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:44:52 -0800
 From: Allen Peterson  Subject: Re: erratic idle>I have an '86 Toy with a 22r that will not idle after 10 -15 minutes of>driving in cold damp weather.  The engine will run fine till the truck comes>to a stop then the idle becomes erratic and stalls.
 Do you use the Weber Carburetor (32/36 progressive)?  I have this on my
 truck, and get the same problems during the winter.
 I think this carb has three different idle circuits:  fast, intermediate,
 and normal.  Fast and normal are fine as you describe, but the middle
 circuit (while its warming up) doesn't work.  I had always suspected I had
 a little piece of dirt in the carb, but it hasn't been a big enough problem
 to track down.  Maybe its not dirt, since you are having the exact same
 problem?
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:48:21 -0600
 From: Robert Stein  Subject: Re: Header coatings
 Terry L. Bush wrote:>> What does a coating provide?> Oh,,,,,,,Looks,,,, rust protection,,, depending on what you use
 also heat disapation.......
 Robert>> Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 11:51 PM>>>> DRM033 wrote:>>>>>> Does anyone have any info on header coatings?  I was wanting to get a> header>>> coated but would like some information.  Anyone know of a rough price> for a>>> 22RE header to get coated?  Have any more info?>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> -->>> ->>> David Moore                                  DRM033@aol.com>>>                           TLCA #5662>>>            Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club>>>> David ,,,Back in my old hot rod days, we did our own header coating by>> heating the tubes with either a propane torch or if available, a large>> oven. After getting the tubes good and hot, we simplied sprayed the>> headers with either stove paint or just high temp header paint. IF you>> do it this way, also spray as much of the INSIDE of the tubs as you can>> also with high temp black paint. Don't ask me why , but it really helps>> keep the outer paint in better shape > turning blue , old scooter trick> .>>   We mostly pained ours black, but have done a few in high temp white>> whith lasting results....>>   Hope this helps :)>> - --
 Robert Stein    rjstein@lawtonok.net           `85 SR5 X-Tra Cab
 rrbbs@juno.com                  STOCK 22R-E Motor
 Lawton,Okla     rjstein@wolverine.cameron.edu   12+" Lift<3"body> http://www.lawtonok.net/rjstein/toyota.html    33x14.50x15 Mickey's
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:52:37 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Re: longer brake lines
 This is a very bad idea,unless it is a male/female type connection.Even
 then i would avoid this like the plague.Bolting two banjo connections
 together is even worse,and it will leak.Any competent hydraulic shop
 will be able to fab you up some longer lines,with higher pressure
 ratings than stock rubber flex hoses.Make sure the hose is rated for
 at least 1500 psi.This is on area wheremore is better.I was quoted $50
 Canadian for all 3,any length(within reason).I have a chum who works at
 such a place,and he's fabbing mine right now,for the price of the
 fittings.Get freinds at such places,it'll save you big money!
 Darren
 Rob Boyle wrote:>> Luke P Miller wrote:>>>> I tried to find extended length rubber lines for cheap, but there just>> weren't any easy options> -- OK heres a long shot, do you think there is a fitting I could use to> connect two rubber break lines together thus making them twice as long?> I checked with the hydraulic hose places and got lots of NO's on made to> order rubber hose> Rob Boyle 85 4runner> el cheapo 33-12.5's> el cheapo  4WPW 4" lift (3" on right side after sag)> 4.88 gears with EZ lockers F&R> RTI so poor it wasn't worth doing the math> New 5" alcans for the front on order!!>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:54:03 -0600
 From: Robert Stein  Subject: Re: erratic idle
 Ernie Arias wrote:>> I have an '86 Toy with a 22r that will not idle after 10 -15 minutes of> driving in cold damp weather.  The engine will run fine till the truck comes> to a stop then the idle becomes erratic and stalls.  The engine will start> right back up but wont idle, a little pressure on the gas pedal will keep it> running.  After about 25 - 30 minutes the engine idles fine.  I suspect it's> a condensation problem but can't figure out where.  I have done a complete> tune up (plugs, rotor,cap...).  Does anyone have any ideas?>> Ernie> '86 Toyota std. bed> 22R
 Was gonna suggest a cracked Distributer cab . I'm
 also new to Toy's , but I have gotten bad caps of the parts store shelf
 i.e. someone dropping it, etc. Look for blue/dark trace lines in the
 inside of the cap .......
 - --
 Robert Stein    rjstein@lawtonok.net           `85 SR5 X-Tra Cab
 rrbbs@juno.com                  STOCK 22R-E Motor
 Lawton,Okla     rjstein@wolverine.cameron.edu   12+" Lift<3"body> http://www.lawtonok.net/rjstein/toyota.html    33x14.50x15 Mickey's
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 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:09:19 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: Rosser event
 In a message dated 98-03-31 21:52:39 EST, you write:>>  Did you get a chance to ride the trails for the roundup? If you did,>  what do you think? I'm curious to know your opinion on the trails marked>  as #3.
 Not yet.  The host club (Middle TN Trail Runners) will be pre-running every
 Saturday in May, and I may try to tag along then.  We are headed up to the
 area this Sunday for our club's ride.
 Since I have been riding in the area for the last 4 years, I have a good idea
 of the trails, and I am also guaging this on what it was like at the last
 Rosser event.  The level 3 rides will require mud tires at least 31's (larger
 is better).  A rear locker is also recomended.  There is *some* possibility of
 body damage, though not likely if you just pay attention.
 If you want, I will be there from Friday night on - you can find me and tag
 along with the guys from our group on Saturday.  I will look for you so you
 can sign up for our trail if you want.  As to Sunday, I may try the level 4
 trails.
 Level 5 is for lunatics who EXPECT to break something every day of trail
 riding or it is not a good day.
 I will get some pics of hybrids scanned after the event & send them to any
 people interested in these crazy machines.
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 David Moore                                  DRM033@aol.com
 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:42:41 PST
 From: "Boyd,Tom"  Subject: Tuff Country Sus. Lift
 Gregg,
 I'm in digest mode so apologies if this has been covered already.  I am
 also looking at lift kits and noticed that Skjacker and Tuff Country's
 E-Z Lift (?) have teflon anti-friction inserts in the leaf springs.
 The teflon inserts seem the way to go if you want to help your leaf
 springs flex.  However, if you were to go with another kit, you could
 always buy some teflon inserts at your local "House of Plastic" and
 install them yourself.
 Just a thought,
 Tom Boyd
 '86 4Runner
 San Mateo, CA
 tom_boyd@pa.xerox.com
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 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:56:52 EST
 From: CowbyUp77  Subject: 4Runners
 I'm planning on purchasing a 4Runner from around here, but before I do I was
 wondering what differences there are between the 1984 and 1985 model.  The one
 I'm looking at is an '84,  is there anything particular to that year that i
 should be aware of?
 Thanks in advance for your help.
 Chuck Thomas               1985 Toyota 4x4 Xtra-cab
 CowbyUp77@aol.com
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 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 05:48:28 -0600
 From: Mike Tolliver  Subject: Re: erratic idle
 I would guess it would be a temperature activated part on the carb rather than
 condensation.  I had a similar problem and it turned out to be the AAP
 diaphragm.  Look for a vacuum leak while the engine is cold.
 Mike Tolliver
 t1der@bellsouth.net
 Ernie Arias wrote:> I have an '86 Toy with a 22r that will not idle after 10 -15 minutes of> driving in cold damp weather.  The engine will run fine till the truck comes> to a stop then the idle becomes erratic and stalls.  The engine will start> right back up but wont idle, a little pressure on the gas pedal will keep it> running.  After about 25 - 30 minutes the engine idles fine.  I suspect it's> a condensation problem but can't figure out where.  I have done a complete> tune up (plugs, rotor,cap...).  Does anyone have any ideas?>> Ernie> '86 Toyota std. bed> 22R>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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