Toyota 4x4 digest:       Friday, March 20 1998       Volume 01 : Number 778
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 Gas Mileage
 Re: I want a Push Bar
 Re: Gas Mileage
 Alum. Spacer?
 Rosser Roundup
 Brakes
 Pismo
 Re: re replacing Main bearings in place
 Bio
 Bio
 parting out 87
 Re: Emissions/block off
 Re: Downey Catalytic converter? Failed test!
 Weber Adjustments
 Trip to Aus"trail"ia
 BIO Terry Bush
 Re: re replacing Main bearings in place
 Re: Rosser Roundup
 Looking for 1986-1995 SR5 Factory Alum. Wheels
 Fiberglass Bed Panels for 87 Toy Truck
 Re: Downey Catalytic converter? Failed test! Anybody else have this problem.
 Re: BIO Terry Bush
 Re: Downey Catalytic converter? Failed test! Anybody else have this problem.
 Tire Make and size
 Re: BIO Terry Bush
 Re: Alum. Spacer?
 Re: Tire Make and size
 Trip to Aus"trail"ia
 Re: Cruise Moab '98
 Stock Suspension
 V-link
 buggy springs
 bio
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:17:17 -0800
 From: "Vic & Lorelei"  Subject: Gas Mileage
 Put a 350 in it  =8-)
 I get 18.5 MPG out of it with 4.10 gears and 38.5's
 When approaching a four-way stop,
 the vehicle with the largest
 tires always has the right of way.
 ICQ # 895123
 http://www.cnx.net/~vsery/
 vsery@cnx.net
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:19:54 -0800
 From: "Gregory Michael Muchin"  Subject: Gas Mileage
 Gregory Michael Muchin
 P.O. Box 1882
 Woodinville, WA  98072-1882 USA
 425-373-1159
 425-260-5090
 mastp@cnw.com
 GMuchin@aol.com
 I own a 1985 Toyota Xtra Cab P/U with 12 inch suspension/body lift, 38.5
 inch tires, 5.71's, 1994 22r engine (picture:
 http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/nwlist/nwlist.html ), I want to know if anyone
 out there would know how to improve my gas mileage.  I currently get around
 12-13mpg.  Would a k&n air filter work...Any ideas please help!  Thanks
 Greg.
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:45:15 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: I want a Push Bar
 In a message dated 98-03-19 15:20:03 EST, you write:>>  I want a push bar on the front of my 96 Tacoma that serves a purpose other>  than a mounting apparatus!  I want something that if i hit a car ("push")>  the truck/pushbar will not be affected, the car well the worse of it is the>  funnier.> I will say that there is almost no way that any bumper or frame mount push bar
 will help in this situation.  Every truck with a push bar that I heve seen get
 in a wreck ended up with more damege from the bar.  The bar always ends up
 getting "pushed" bach into the hood.  Simple leverage tells you that this will
 happen.  If you want real protection, get a better bumper.
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 David Moore                                DRM033@aol.com
 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,4.88's
 rear ARB, front LockRite,TJM bumper & Ramsey 8000
 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:39:01 -0800
 From: "Craig Blanchette"  Subject: Re: Gas Mileage
 My friend Vic ha a 81 with 38.5" Ground Hawgs, and a chevy
 350 with 4 speed manual tranny. He gets 18.5 miles to the
 gallon. It sure helps going from a motor that works too hard
 to one that doesn't "NEED" to work at all. I havent been
 able to get a gas milage from my 350 / 40" Ground hawgs
 since I had the pleasure of blowing my tranny. (turbo 350)
 The new turbo350 is in and I'll be able to get a gas milage
 for my truck soon....
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 From: Gregory Michael Muchin  To: Toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Thursday, March 19, 1998 11:46 AM
 Subject: Gas Mileage>>Gregory Michael Muchin>P.O. Box 1882>Woodinville, WA  98072-1882 USA>425-373-1159>425-260-5090>mastp@cnw.com>GMuchin@aol.com>>I own a 1985 Toyota Xtra Cab P/U with 12 inch
 suspension/body lift, 38.5>inch tires, 5.71's, 1994 22r engine (picture:>http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/nwlist/nwlist.html ), I want to
 know if anyone>out there would know how to improve my gas mileage.  I
 currently get around>12-13mpg.  Would a k&n air filter work...Any ideas please
 help!  Thanks>Greg.>>>===========================================================
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:56:26 -0500
 From: Chris Caldwell  Subject: Alum. Spacer?
 Recently, someone on the list shared some info on the quality of
 differant grades of aluminum. Whomever it was or anyone else, I was
 hoping you could answer a question for me. Would the grade of alum.
 matter if I was making a .5 inch spacer to mount above my shock/spring
 mounting plate on my Tacoma?
 Chris Caldwell
 caldwell@vol.com
 (95.5 Tacoma Xcab 4x4 V6, TJM Bullbar, K&N, Rear Lock-right)
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:01:42 -0500
 From: Chris Caldwell  Subject: Rosser Roundup
 Well, its official, I'm planning on attending the Rosser Roundup. I put
 in my vacation request and got permission from the warden;) I mean wife.
 So, do we have a list of folks that are attending????
 Chris Caldwell
 caldwell@vol.com
 (95.5 Tacoma Xcab 4x4 V6, TJM Bullbar, K&N, Rear Lock-right)
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:30:37 -0600
 From: "Larry D Walls"  Subject: Brakes
 Does anyone know what Toyota 4x4 used bolt on brake rotors? (no lug studs
 thru the rotor) I was going to do the vented swap, but my rotors (1980
 Hilux) have 6 bolts securing them to the hub. My 1988 4x4 has bolt on, but
 the rotor is about 3/8" deeper, so it my not work.
 Any help would be appreciated.
 Thanks,
 Larry D Walls    Austin,TX
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:29:41 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Ken Emanuel  Subject: Pismo
 Sorry about posting this to the list, I don't have my Pismo distribution
 list here at work.  Pismo is open, but camping is only allowed north of
 the stream crossing.  The depth varies from high tide to low tide, but
 you should not cross alone.  You can reach us on channel 21 (CB) and
 we will tie our trucks together via tow strap and help you cross.
 Hope to see you there!
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 Ken Emanuel                    Emanuel@csus.edu
 '87 Xtra Cab SR5               (22R-E)
 http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac75830/toystuff.htm
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:53:06 -0800 (PST)
 From: Luke P Miller  Subject: Re: re replacing Main bearings in place
 No, Mr. Miller is correct. You can replace the main bearings in this
 manner. Rod bearings should work by the same method, though usually
 you've already pulled the head and yanked the pistons and rods out.
 On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Brandon Miller wrote:> those are rod bearings........> -----Original Message-----> From: Barry Miller > re replacing Main bearings in place> Loosen all the bearing caps a few turns and then one at a time take each cap> off.> the top half of the bearing shell  can easily be pushed around the crank> until it> falls out. It normally needs a tap with a blunt screw driver to start it> moving.> Be careful, obviously there is a tab on one side of the bearing and the> other> side must be pushed .>> I have done this on several vehicles with no difficulty.>>> Barry> Barry Miller> PO Box 4172, Durban .South Africa . 4000> Fax +27 <31> 833-202> alias bmiller@iaccess.za> alias bmiller@iafrica.com> Cellphone <082>967-1998> Luke Miller
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 1985 4Runner 3"Alcan front lift, 3" custom Mazda spring rear lift, 4.88's,
 rear lockright, RS 9000's, 32x11.50 Michelins, ugly homemade bumpers (the
 best kind)...
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:53:51 -0800 (PST)
 From: Joel Leal  Subject: Bio
 ===========================
 Personal Bio Info
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 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name:Jack brown
 City & State:Nevada
 Country:USA
 E-mail address:Toy83@Yahoo.com
 Toyota (s) year & model:83 Toyota 4x4 22r
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):n
 Age:32
 Occupation:
 Marital Status:no
 Hobbies:4x4'ing
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:Pretty much stock
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:05:49 -0800
 From: "Marc H. Mantelli"  Subject: Bio
 Personal Bio Info
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name: Marc Mantelli
 City & State: Los Gatos, California
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: mmantell@cisco.com
 Toyota (s) year & model: '86 4Runner
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
 Age: 24
 Occupation: Electrical Engineer
 Marital Status: Single
 Hobbies: Computers, Roller Hockey, Outdoors, Hunting, Fourwheeling, ECV
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Off-Road.Com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: 4Runner is stock, but have
 plans to upgrade it.  Baught it used with only 147K on it, and it looks to
 be in good condition.  Future upgrades include bigger tires, clean up the
 suspension droop.  I haven't done hard core 4Wheeling mostly in the
 foothills of Gilroy, but would like to find a club in the bay area, that I
 can learn from.
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:37:25 -0500 (US Eastern Standard Time)
 From: "Ebersold, Chance J"  Subject: parting out 87
 I need a power steering pump and gearbox,  also rear
 headrests if gray,  maybe the spare rim.  I live in
 Harrisonburg Virginia so can pick up.  Thanks.  By the way
 what is the millage on the rebuilt before and after and
 price.
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 ebersocj@jmu.edu
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:18:03 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: Emissions/block off
 penny wrote:>> On the 20R head I am preparing to put on my 82 22R short block there are a> few emissions pieces I want to block off, one at the back off the head, (3> bolts triangle)> and the other is on the intake manifold (2 bolts near where the pcv hose> goes to the carb) I was gonna use some small steel plates to do this.
 Since> I live in florida there are no smog checks or anything like that. what> effects good or bad would doing this have?> what do these two pieces do anyway? every one I have ever seen have been> clogged up w/ carbon anyway.
 These are for the EGR system.
 I have already removed the brass looking pipes> that were located in the 20Rs exhaust ports. Im not thinking this will give> any kind of performance gain just  cleaner looking, and easier bolt access.> Any comments are welcomed...
 You are correct, there will not be much of an increse in performance but
 the installation will appear much cleaner.
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 Manhattan Beach, CA				32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:19:57 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: Downey Catalytic converter? Failed test!
 Scott Wilson wrote:>> Forwarded on behalf of Nick.....>>> Steve Keene  wrote:>>>>>>         "I have an 81 toy 4x4. I just replaced the cat.>>>         with one sold by Downey offroad...The brand>>>         name on it is "Carsound"...failed the>>>         california smog test. The test tech was>>>         suspicious of the cat.">>>>>> Steve, that cat comes with a CARB number on it - meaning it is smog legal.>>> I hope you kept it.>>>>>> I don't think it's the cat. If your truck is an '81, your old cat was worn>>> out. My '81 was melted down by the time I last took the test, and I>>> replaced mine as well. There are a lot of other things that could have>>> caused your truck to fail, such as carbon clogging the EGR valve. I'm sure>>> someone with a lot of experience (like, say, Jim Brink) could expound upon
 I asked him what the reasons were that the truck failed but I haven't
 heard back from him yet...
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 Jim Brink, Toyota/ASE Certified Technician	1986 Toyota Std. Bed 4WD
 Manhattan Beach, CA				32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:01:06 -0500
 From: "penny"  Subject: Weber Adjustments
 I recently accquired a weber 32/36 DGEV carb for my 82 toyota 4 wheel drive
 with a 22R engine. But will be using it on the 20R head, I was wondering
 how many turns out do I adjust the
 air/fuel mixture screw? and which one is it ( the one at the bottom with
 the spring) there are two other smaller screws one next to the vacuum port
 that the advance connects to and the other on top of the throttle linkage
 both of these were bottomed out when I got the carb do I leave them that
 way? any help and or explanation would be greatly appreciated, thanks in
 advance,
 Jimmy 82Toy4x4 L.B.
 purnrgy@quancon.com
 http://www.geocities.com/baja/6397/
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 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 13:00:55
 From: "Fisher, Gary"  Subject: Trip to Aus"trail"ia
 G'day All,
 If anyone would like more info on 4WD in Australia. I've been to the top of Cape
 York, the Birdsville Track and the Oodnadataa track as well as a few other
 places thrown in for good messure. If I can help you with any info, please email
 me direct so I don't bore other members of the list.
 Gary Fisher
 NB. The all mighty Hilux is just about up for sale...
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 * 89 Hilux Extra Cab 2.8 Turbo Diesel    *
 * Very Bald 32" BFG MT ARB Bars all round*
 * Too many worn bits too list            *
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:44:38 EST
 From: JC VR 4  Subject: BIO Terry Bush
 In a message dated 98-03-19 18:31:46 EST, you write:
<> It sounds like you need a new timing chain.  My truck was doing this too.
 After replaced (expensive if you have someone do it) it sounded much better.
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 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:56:15 -0800
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: re replacing Main bearings in place
 oh, you can replace the rod bearings without removing the head, I thought
 that was what you were talking about, unbolting the cap and sliding the
 bearings around.
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Luke P Miller  To: toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Thursday, March 19, 1998 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: re replacing Main bearings in place>No, Mr. Miller is correct. You can replace the main bearings in this>manner. Rod bearings should work by the same method, though usually>you've already pulled the head and yanked the pistons and rods out.>>On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Brandon Miller wrote:>>> those are rod bearings........>>> -----Original Message----->> From: Barry Miller >> re replacing Main bearings in place>> Loosen all the bearing caps a few turns and then one at a time take each
 cap>> off.>> the top half of the bearing shell  can easily be pushed around the crank>> until it>> falls out. It normally needs a tap with a blunt screw driver to start it>> moving.>> Be careful, obviously there is a tab on one side of the bearing and the>> other>> side must be pushed .>>>> I have done this on several vehicles with no difficulty.>>>>>> Barry>> Barry Miller>> PO Box 4172, Durban .South Africa . 4000>> Fax +27 <31> 833-202>> alias bmiller@iaccess.za>> alias bmiller@iafrica.com>> Cellphone <082>967-1998>>>>Luke Miller>__________________________________________________________________________>1985 4Runner 3"Alcan front lift, 3" custom Mazda spring rear lift, 4.88's,>rear lockright, RS 9000's, 32x11.50 Michelins, ugly homemade bumpers (the>best kind)...>__________________________________________________________________________>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:19:12 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: Rosser Roundup
 In a message dated 98-03-19 19:07:09 EST, you write:> Well, its official, I'm planning on attending the Rosser Roundup. I put>  in my vacation request and got permission from the warden;) I mean wife.>>  So, do we have a list of folks that are attending????
 I will be there, as will at least 3 other members of my club, and pots of
 other people I know.  I may go this Saturday and pre-run the trails with MTTR,
 who is the host club.  It should be another great run.
 What level trails do you plan to run?
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 David Moore                                DRM033@aol.com
 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,4.88's
 rear ARB, front LockRite,TJM bumper & Ramsey 8000
 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:24:44 -0600
 From: "Terry L. Bush"  Subject: Looking for 1986-1995 SR5 Factory Alum. Wheels
 Does anyone have a set of  4 1986-1995 SR5 Factory Alum. Wheels for sale?
 I would truly appreciate a fair deal.
 Thanks
 Terry Bush
 tbush@kctera.net
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:31:59 -0600
 From: "Terry L. Bush"  Subject: Fiberglass Bed Panels for 87 Toy Truck
 Has anyone ever installed the fiberglass replacement panels for the 87
 style trucks.
 How did it go?
 Was it hard to do?
 How did you install them?
 Do you like the results?
 Thanks
 Terry Bush
 tbush@kctera.net
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:48:42 EST
 From: Specilizd  Subject: Re: Downey Catalytic converter? Failed test! Anybody else have this problem.
 In a message dated 98-03-17 20:25:08 EST, you write:
<<> I have an 81 toy 4x4.   I just replaced the cat. with one sold by Downey
 off> road.> I did this because I wanted a bolt in job.  The brand name on it is
 "Carsound"> Well  it failed the california smog test.  The test tech was suspicious of
 the> cat.>> Has anyone else used this CAT. and passed the test?
 JIm Wrote::
 According to CARB tests, the CarSound CATs are some of the best as far
 as aftermarket CATs are concerned. My experience has shown them to be
 better than other, non OEM brands as well.
 What was the reason your truck failed? Excessive HC or CO? Was it
 possibly a dilution problem?>> OK here are the test results:
 2500 RPM
 Max Allowable                       Tested as.
 HC      200                                   18
 CO      2.00                                      .59
 CO2                                             15.1
 O2                                                  0.0
 IDLE SPEED TESTS
 Max Allowable                       Tested as.
 HC      250                                   1001
 CO      2.00                                   3.26
 CO2                                             12.6
 O2                                                  0.9
 I had the test done the day after I installed the new cat.   Put new plugs in.
 New air filter.
 Did some cleaning on the carb and linkage because it was sticking at high idle
 before.  It drops down fine now.
 It does seem awfully high for just being a cat.  I'm inclined to agree there
 is somthing else wrong here.
 Steve Keene  TLCA # 5414
 81Toy $X$ SR5 long bed.   With lots of extra $$$ parts & mods.
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:14:28 -0600
 From: "Terry L. Bush"  Subject: Re: BIO Terry Bush
 Thanks,
 The trucks seems to run fine, but does rattle at start up and shortly
 thereafter. (When it is cold) On warmer days it doesn't seem as bad.
 I will investigate the timing chain. Did you put it on yourself? Was it
 hard to do?
 - ----------> From: JC VR 4 > To: toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: BIO Terry Bush> Date: Thursday, March 19, 1998 8:44 PM>> In a message dated 98-03-19 18:31:46 EST, you write:>> <  a rattling or clicking or ticking coming from the engine compartment.>  Seems to be lasting longer now than it used to.>>>> It sounds like you need a new timing chain.  My truck was doing this too.> After replaced (expensive if you have someone do it) it sounded much
 better.>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:18:23 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: Downey Catalytic converter? Failed test! Anybody else have this problem.
 Specilizd wrote:>> In a message dated 98-03-17 20:25:08 EST, you write:>> <<> I have an 81 toy 4x4.   I just replaced the cat. with one sold by Downey> off>> road.>> I did this because I wanted a bolt in job.  The brand name on it is> "Carsound">> Well  it failed the california smog test.  The test tech was suspicious of> the>> cat.>>>> Has anyone else used this CAT. and passed the test?>> JIm Wrote::>  According to CARB tests, the CarSound CATs are some of the best as far>  as aftermarket CATs are concerned. My experience has shown them to be>  better than other, non OEM brands as well.>>  What was the reason your truck failed? Excessive HC or CO? Was it>  possibly a dilution problem?>>>>>> OK here are the test results:> 2500 RPM>    Max Allowable                       Tested as.> HC      200                                   18> CO      2.00                                      .59> CO2                                             15.1> O2                                                  0.0>> IDLE SPEED TESTS>    Max Allowable                       Tested as.> HC      250                                   1001> CO      2.00                                   3.26> CO2                                             12.6> O2                                                  0.9>> I had the test done the day after I installed the new cat.   Put new plugs in.> New air filter.> Did some cleaning on the carb and linkage because it was sticking at high idle> before.  It drops down fine now.>> It does seem awfully high for just being a cat.  I'm inclined to agree there> is somthing else wrong here.
 I would say that there is a carburetion problem here.
 Have you tried adjusting the idle mixture any? I would start at about 2
 1/2 turns out from bottomed-out.
 Is the choke plate opening fully? How about the internal cleanliness of
 the carb? I wouldn't doubt, looking at these numbers, that the idle
 circuits and air bleeds, plus the bowl vents are restricted. Try some
 carb. cleaner and compressed air and give the carb. a good cleaning.
 With CO numbers like that, there is no way even a new CAT could clean up
 this motor. Focus your attention towards the carb. then check secondary
 items like ignition timing including advance.
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 Jim Brink, Toyota/ASE Certified Technician	1986 Toyota Std. Bed 4WD
 Manhattan Beach, CA				32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
 ToyTech@Off-Road.com
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:27:49 -0500
 From: "quetip"  Subject: Tire Make and size
 I am looking to replace my worn-out,stock 285/75R16
 Brigestones Dueler HT's on my 96 Toyota 4Runner 3.6L.  The multitude of tire
 manufactures and tires are daunting.  I would like some negative and/or
 positive feedback on differnt makes.  I live in the NE (Long Island) and try
 to go off road as much as possible, but it usually involves the beach (legal
 off-roading seems to be lacking here - please correct me if you know of any
 good places in this area.  Additionally I was thinking of going with a
 slightly larger tire, maybe a 31"   Would this impact me in any other way
 besides slightly worse gas mileage and my speedometer being off by a few
 mph?
 Craig
 96' 4Runner Mostly stock, custom nagging wife
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:58:57 -0800 (PST)
 From: Peterson Allen  Subject: Re: BIO Terry Bush>> <  a rattling or clicking or ticking coming from the engine compartment.>  Seems to be lasting longer now than it used to.>>>> It sounds like you need a new timing chain.  My truck was doing this too.> After replaced (expensive if you have someone do it) it sounded much better.
 Could also be a tired oil pump or chain tensioner.  There is a little
 cylinder on the front of the motor that tightens the chain and is
 pressurized with oil from the motor.  If this is worn out (or the oil
 pump) it won't come up to pressure as fast and the chain can rattle
 around.  My truck was making these noises for a while (220K miles)
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 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:18:48 -0500
 From: "wolfer1"  Subject: Re: Alum. Spacer?
 yes the alloy (grade) of aluminum will make a difference. Even though
 it will be .5 inch if you use a soft alloy there is a greater chance
 of breaking or fracturing compared to a hard alloy. What is the
 purpose of the spacer? Also if you can give me what dimensions you are
 wanting to use for the spacer I may be able to get you some pieces of
 aluminum close to what you want, you may have to cut it down to the
 size you want. Also how many pieces?
 Domenick
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 From: Chris Caldwell  To: 4x4 digest  Date: Thursday, March 19, 1998 7:05 PM
 Subject: Alum. Spacer?>Recently, someone on the list shared some info on the quality of>differant grades of aluminum. Whomever it was or anyone else, I was>hoping you could answer a question for me. Would the grade of alum.>matter if I was making a .5 inch spacer to mount above my
 shock/spring>mounting plate on my Tacoma?>>Chris Caldwell>caldwell@vol.com>(95.5 Tacoma Xcab 4x4 V6, TJM Bullbar, K&N, Rear Lock-right)>>>=====================================================================
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:56:11 -0600
 From: Robert Stein  Subject: Re: Tire Make and size
 quetip wrote:>> I am looking to replace my worn-out,stock 285/75R16> Brigestones Dueler HT's on my 96 Toyota 4Runner 3.6L.  The multitude of tire> manufactures and tires are daunting.  I would like some negative and/or> positive feedback on differnt makes.  I live in the NE (Long Island) and try> to go off road as much as possible, but it usually involves the beach (legal> off-roading seems to be lacking here - please correct me if you know of any> good places in this area.  Additionally I was thinking of going with a> slightly larger tire, maybe a 31"   Would this impact me in any other way> besides slightly worse gas mileage and my speedometer being off by a few> mph?>> Craig> 96' 4Runner Mostly stock, custom nagging wife> Craig , My opinion for durability, usefullness and price, I don't
 think you can beat a set of either BF Goodrich AT's or MT's. I've been
 running BFG AT's on my OTHER 4x4  and they have
 ALWAYS gotten me where I needed to go , mostly mud running between
 fishing or hunting spots. My rear tires have over 40K miles on them and
 still look great and the fronts were replaced at just under 40K not
 because they wore out, but due to the characteristics of the Ford
 Twin I-Beam set-up , my tread seperated with still close to 1/3 life
 left on the tires.....
 Hope this helps ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:39:00 EST
 From: "james stevenson"  Subject: Trip to Aus"trail"ia>Do you do this trip every year?
 I usually go wheeling most weekends. I have to do 20Km of serious
 wheeling through the Great Dividing range to get to the gate of my farm.
 Then another 14 through the mountains to get to the cabins. We cut the
 trail up and down the mountains with a D9. As far as major trips I do
 2-3 per year. Usually June and September but sometimes December or
 January as well. I don't usually do the same trip twice. I am doing the
 Canning Stock Route (Kalgoolie to Halls Creek) 200Km no water no towns
 again next year however. And then up into the Kimberley Region in the
 top end. I am lucky enough to be able to take 4 months off each year.
 Hey it's my company so I think I'm worth it. Its also a Tax right off as
 I take a few of the guys/gals from the workshop along as training. The
 Canning is HARD !!. It will break the camels back. Rover tried 2 yrs ago
 with 6 Camel Trophy prepped Land Rovers as a recon to run the camel
 trophy here. None made it. In fact they were rescued by 2 Toyota Hilux
 Solid Diesel Pickups.
 James Stevenson (TonkaTuf)
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 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:43:20 +0000
 From: Henry Brimmer  Subject: Re: Cruise Moab '98
 anyone headed for moab end of april?
 anyone from bay area or sacramento?
 henry brimmer
 tlca 5084
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 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:40:32 EST
 From: "james stevenson"  Subject: Stock Suspension>the front leaf springs have seemed to sag real bad.  There is only>a few inches between the top of the spring and the bottom of>the frame.  It still has the original Springs.  Is this normal?
 Two things are wrong Jap spring steel is useless and the springs you
 have are dead. If you replace with Toy spring the same thing will
 happen. The steel is so bad that you cant find a new truck one on the
 lot without sagged springs. The springs should be straight. They flex in
 a positive and negative arch. A 3in lift spring will flex in a positive
 arch only.  To keep the stock springs and fix the problem. First go and
 weigh the weight on the front axle. Remove the springs and shocks from
 the truck. weld a support from the top of the shock tower to the inside
 edge of the frame. Pull apart the spring pack and remove all of the
 leaves except for the first two. Re install them on the truck. In place
 of the stock shocks use Coil over shocks (not 4 way type). The retailer
 of the shocks can get the correct coil if you give him the weight you
 got earlier. With the coil overs the weight of the truck is controlled
 via the shocks and the springs only locate the axle. You can use this
 setup all the way up to 9 in lift with good results.
 James Stevenson (TonkaTuf)
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 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:41:54 EST
 From: "james stevenson"  Subject: V-link
 Jay wrote>Ok, this make more sense now. So, the springs serve only as the> load support and some location function from side-to-side. The V-link> serves to control axle skew, axle wrap, front-to-rear axle location>and pinion angle.....correct?
 You got it too
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 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:43:45 EST
 From: "james stevenson"  Subject: buggy springs>I just read how you put buggy springs on a simulator and got the>truck to self destruct.
 To explain the simulator first. I have a Cray midrange with Sun Spark
 stations. The Cray does the number crunching and the Suns do the real
 time graphics modelling. I also have a number of IBM PC workstations
 which run other simulations. I have the Toy frame in the simulator and
 can run a mod in real or extended time. The whole setup is linked to the
 Mills lathes ect. Blueprints are kept in the system and can be recalled
 from the terminals on the shop floor.>What kind of forces were you subjecting the frame/suspension to?>I had a panhard rod set up for a while
 It depends on the rate of the spring, the length and mount as well as
 the travel of the suspension. The panhard will help a lot. If you have
 the weight of the truck on one wheel (pushing one down) you are exerting
 about 6 tonne on the opposing leaf spring (depending on spring rates and
 vehicles weight). This 6 ton is transferred to the buggy spring. If you
 bolts are say 3 inch apart and a 12 in long spring is used the force
 will be 3 time higher on the second bolt (18 tonne)  A ? inch grad 8
 bolt has a tensile strength of 9.7 Tonne, a 3/8 in a fine thread would
 be much better.>I have the buggy springs attached to the frame with 1/2" inch bolts,>which I don't think are even grade 8.   Maybe grade 5.
 Grade 5 will break at 7.7 Tonne.>If I were to but buggy springs on the front, I would do a lot more>engineering, with some sort of link or something.  At that point, I>agree with you, other methods would be simpler, and give better>results.
 The stress is a lot more on the front but a double shackle in the rear
 will still be easier to do, be safer and give you more travel. For this
 reason alone I don't do the buggy spring's>should be waiting for impending doom.
 It depends in the factors above>Will the softer springs play havoc with the buggy springs as well?
 Softer springs put less load on the buggy spring>I got your response about your plans for TonkaTuff3, but did not>get the pictures. Is there something I need to do to decode these>pictures?
 Look for the attachments in you e-mail program. If they have been
 removed along the way let me know and I will resend. All the files were
 GIF and Zip. The GIF files you can view with your browser the Zip files
 will need to be uncompressed first.
 James Stevenson (TonkaTuf)
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 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:25:20 EST
 From: LaurenGee  Subject: bio
 I never did fill out a bio thing.  I would really like to.  Can someone tell
 me how I do one.
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