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Toy4x4 Digest Fri, 30 Jan 98 12:30:02 (HST) Volume 1 : Issue 683
Today's Topics:
4.88 or 4.56?
4Runner Overdrive (3 msgs)
50 degress
A/C Recharging (7 msgs)
Bio
Birfield help
EFI and Fuel Pressure Gagues (2 msgs)
gears for your tacoma
GPS
J. Shackelford's HG Surprise
Knocking noise from front drive shafts? (2 msgs)
mail to Motive Gear
Marlin T-Case
New Jersey emissions
PreRunner - 2WD!
Rubicon Trail Closed
solid axle or IFS lock-out hub???
tranny (2 msgs)
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 05:40:12 -1000 (HST)
From: Eric Johnson Subject: 4.88 or 4.56?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, MICHEL PRINCE wrote:> I've got an '85 4SKINRUNNER and I was wondering who's tried this tire gear combo. I now have 32's and I'm still running my 4.10's. I'm wanting to know if anyone has ran 32's with a 4.88 gear. What RPM range would I be looking at? Would it be like trying to drive in 4 low with the 4.88's? I've done many gear changes but, they've all been with 35" or larger. I had a perfect set up with my 36" Buckshots and a 5.29 gear. My 38" Monster Gumbo's even ran real good with a 5.71. I've now come down to earth back to a smaller Toy for my daily driver. I pull a bass boat alot and I don't want to over or under gear my 4SKINRUNNER. Please send any information possible to HammerHead1@worldnet.att.net> It should be real nice. I'm running 31s on 4.88s (but i started at 4.30
stock). I have an automatic and hit around 2500rpm at about 62mph true
speed. I'm slightly lower now than stock, which is nice, since I too pull
a boat.
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:09:46 -0500
From: "John Aird" Subject: 4Runner Overdrive
To: Hi Im new to this list group so I hope Im not asking questions that are old
and worn-out, So here go's: I have just bought a 1995 4Runner and I love it!
(Sorry about the pun) Anyway, Ive noticed that when it is cold in the
morning and Im driving to work, It does not want to shift into overdrive,
The RPMS run up to about 4000 and Im going about 60mph. The truck does warm
up very fast (The fastest Ive ever seen a Vehicle warm up before) And as
soon as its warm, No problem shifts fine! Is this problem worthy of a dealer
visit, the truck is still under warranty. Oh its an automatic V6 with 28000
miles.
Thanks,
John Aird
jaird@vwc.edu
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:41:56 -0600
From: "Michael Rowe" Subject: 4Runner Overdrive
To: This is totally normal. It should mention this in your Owners Manual. As far
as I know, all Toyota auto trans are like this.
Michael Rowe
- -----Original Message-----
From: John Aird >(Sorry about the pun) Anyway, Ive noticed that when it is cold in the>morning and Im driving to work, It does not want to shift into overdrive,>The RPMS run up to about 4000 and Im going about 60mph. The truck does warm>up very fast (The fastest Ive ever seen a Vehicle warm up before) And as>soon as its warm, No problem shifts fine! Is this problem worthy of a
dealer>visit, the truck is still under warranty. Oh its an automatic V6 with 28000>miles.
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 05:43:31 -1000 (HST)
From: Eric Johnson Subject: 4Runner Overdrive
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, John Aird wrote:> Hi Im new to this list group so I hope Im not asking questions that are old> and worn-out, So here go's: I have just bought a 1995 4Runner and I love it!> (Sorry about the pun) Anyway, Ive noticed that when it is cold in the> morning and Im driving to work, It does not want to shift into overdrive,> The RPMS run up to about 4000 and Im going about 60mph. The truck does warm> up very fast (The fastest Ive ever seen a Vehicle warm up before) And as> soon as its warm, No problem shifts fine! Is this problem worthy of a dealer> visit, the truck is still under warranty. Oh its an automatic V6 with 28000> miles.
No, thats by design, and part of the reason it warms up so fast!
Everything is working perfectly.
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:58:12 -0500
From: "Eli Madden" Subject: 50 degress
To: toy4x4@tlca.org> how I could easily force a cold condition, say below 50 degrees?
That's not cold!
30 degrees is a nice day
20 degrees is cold
0 degress or below is *!#$! Cold!
(please note, wind chill is directly proportional to swearing)
I just built a shelter with woodstove for my truck so I can force a WARM condition!
Subaru required the ol' ether treatment the other morning when it was 6 below.
My Toyota has never needed that!
Eli
emadden@inacom-vt.com (yes, that -vt means Vermont)
'83 SR5 Shortbed 4x4
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:26:45 -0500
From: Ed Ruf Subject: A/C Recharging
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
At 09:20 PM 1/29/98 -0800, James Brink illustriously expounded:>Ken Emanuel wrote:>>> My truck was involved in a traffic accident a few years ago that>> severed the air conditioning line that runs into the air conditioning>> condensor. I had the aluminum line welded last year in hopes of coming>> up with enough money to have the system recharged (I'm a college>> student.) So the air conditioning system has been without any freon for>> 3 years now, and I was wondering if it would even be worth it to try and>> have it recharged. I figured that by now all of the seals may be bad,>> and most A/C places charge a lot of $$ to evacuate and test the system.>>>>You would have to have the entire system evac'ed then recharged again to>check for leaks. Most likely, the o-rings that seal the lines to the>condenser are shot (common in these models). If the system is completly>empty, you can buy the o-rings from Toyota (under $20) and replace these>yourself. Count on replacing the dryer assembly too (about $30).>>In addition, not running an A/C compressor for long periods of time can>have adverse effects too.
I'd look into using one of the R-12 multi-component replacements (not
R134A) if you need any work done, such as hose replacement. I'd also be
concerned of the effects of moisture contamination for 3+ years. The
internal environment is acidic and with the addition of water a good bit of
corrosion could have taken place.
Ed
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 05:53:13 -0600
From: Mike Tolliver Subject: A/C Recharging
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
If you really want to get into doing it yourself, you can make a good vacuum
pump/dryer out of an old refrigerator compressor. Just weld on a (or get a
screw on "piercing type") valve and splice a power cord to the existing old
power leads. You could then pull a vacuum on the system and see if it holds.
Mike Tolliver
t1der@bellsouth.net
James Brink wrote:> Ken Emanuel wrote:>>>> Hi all,>> My truck was involved in a traffic accident a few years ago that>> severed the air conditioning line that runs into the air conditioning>> condensor. I had the aluminum line welded last year in hopes of coming>> up with enough money to have the system recharged (I'm a college>> student.) So the air conditioning system has been without any freon for>> 3 years now, and I was wondering if it would even be worth it to try and>> have it recharged. I figured that by now all of the seals may be bad,>> and most A/C places charge a lot of $$ to evacuate and test the system.>>>> You would have to have the entire system evac'ed then recharged again to> check for leaks. Most likely, the o-rings that seal the lines to the> condenser are shot (common in these models). If the system is completly> empty, you can buy the o-rings from Toyota (under $20) and replace these> yourself. Count on replacing the dryer assembly too (about $30).>> In addition, not running an A/C compressor for long periods of time can> have adverse effects too.>> -->> Jim Brink, Toyota/ASE Certified Technician 1986 Std. Bed 4x4> Manhattan Beach, CA 32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts> ToyTech@Off-Road.com> ********************************************************************> TLCA - Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR) - CA4WDC
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 98 08:46:13 -0600
From: mstano@okway.okstate.edu
Subject: A/C Recharging
To: Rather than repairing your R12 system, I believe you would be smart to convert
to R134a. I had the A/C in my 84 converted for about $200, including a new
receiver/dryer, O rings, and conversion kit. By shopping around, you can
probably convert your system for the same money it would cost to recharge using
R12. By converting, you are environmentally sound, and, in the future, you pay
around $15/lb. for R134a instead of $60+/lb. for R12. My converted system works
great.
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:41:31 -0500
From: Sheldon Gardner Subject: A/C Recharging
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>>> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:10:59 -0800> From: Ken Emanuel > Subject: A/C Recharging> To: Toyota E-mail List Group >> Hi all,> My truck was involved in a traffic accident a few years ago that> severed the air conditioning line that runs into the air conditioning> condensor. I had the aluminum line welded last year in hopes of coming> up with enough money to have the system recharged (I'm a college> student.) So the air conditioning system has been without any freon for> 3 years now, and I was wondering if it would even be worth it to try and> have it recharged. I figured that by now all of the seals may be bad,> and most A/C places charge a lot of $$ to evacuate and test the system.>> So for you A/C experts, what do you think? Keep in mind that Freon> (R12) costs about $150-175 to fill my system. It's an '87 model year.>> Thanks a lot,> Ken Emanuel
Ken it's easy to convert your system to run 134a instead of that expensive R12. There is a kit you can order in JC whitney, auto parts stores or I have seen them in various auto parts catalogs.
Your right that the seals are probably shot I would change the ones James Brink say's then have a pressure test done with Nitrogen. Vacuum, fill up with 134a and your good to go.
btw make sure to check with the whoever fills up your system that you have enough lubricant in there wouldn't want to burn up your compressor. I believe the lube for 134A is Ester oil.
Sheldon
sgard@flnet.com
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:03:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ken Emanuel Subject: A/C Recharging
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Steve C. wrote:> You could always take a field trip to Arizona the governor of Arizona I> think declared that cfc's werent to be banned in his state.> I [heard] that Nevada is the same way. If this is true, sounds like
I will be on my way to one of those small, desert A/C charging oasis'!!!!!
Thanks,
Ken
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:11:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ken Emanuel Subject: A/C Recharging
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 mstano@okway.okstate.edu wrote:>> Rather than repairing your R12 system, I believe you would be smart to convert> to R134a. I had the A/C in my 84 converted for about $200, including a new> receiver/dryer, O rings, and conversion kit. By shopping around, you can> probably convert your system for the same money it would cost to recharge using> R12. By converting, you are environmentally sound, and, in the future, you pay> around $15/lb. for R134a instead of $60+/lb. for R12. My converted system works> great.> Thanks to everyone who answered my questions regarding the A/C charging.
I am going to check into the R134a conversion. I had never considered it
before because I thought it was extremely expensive, but if it really
does cost only a little over $200, that's great! I'll let you know what
I find out. (I probably won't start checking until late February.)
Thanks again,
Ken Emanuel
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:11:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ken Emanuel Subject: A/C Recharging
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:05:13 PST
From: "J Hanley" Subject: Bio
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Name: Joseph Hanley
City & State: Patterson, NY
Country: USA
E-mail address: jbhanley@hotmail.com
Toyota (s) year & model: 89 4Runner 4cyl
Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
Age: 30
Occupation: ASIC Engineer
Marital Status: M
Hobbies: Brewing, Computers, Baby stuff (3 month old baby)
How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Searching
General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
I bought it in May, 96. It was in pretty good shape:
110K, 4cyl, 5spd, non-SR5, and stock. 124K now. Since
I bought it I have replaced the belts, shocks, tires, and
fixed the rear window. The clutch master cylinder was replaced,
as well as the clutch, last month by my mechanic. I like the ride,
I love the 1st generation style, and the gas mileage is not too bad.
I have been following this list for a long time, getting great
tips from you folks: Thank you!
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:58:58 -0500
From: Rob Ditusa Subject: Birfield help
To: Toy4x4@off-road.com
Allright guys, sorry if this is a worn topic, and I did check the archives,
but.........I need to replace a Birfield in my 1980 longbed. Where is the
best place to get them, and is there a parts breakdown in any manual?? I
have the Chilton's and Hayes. How much of a PITA is this??
Thanks in advance,
RD
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:03:21 -0500
From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
Subject: EFI and Fuel Pressure Gagues
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I pop'd over to the OTC tool web page and later got a catalog in the mail.
For a long time I wanted to connect a permanent in cab fuel pressure
gague to the fuel rail. The problem was how to connect this w/o
wierd and expensive fabrication. OTC now saves the day.
(dont worry, Autometer makes a high pressure isolater
just for this. They also now ahve full sweep (270 deg)
electrical gagues - bu the mech is better at finding
the residual fuel pressure drop)
OTC makes double banjo bolts to fit the fuel rail input -
14mm x 1.5pitch and a matching 14mm banjo to a "schrader"
type quick disconnect (which looks like it fastens with a
1/8" NPT fitting - so its removable to be replaced with
AN style fittings)
{parts # 7852 and # 7851} $43.95 + $41.95
** OR
8mm x 1.0pitch and matching banjo as per above to connect to
the CSI injector (easier to get to, but probably not the place
I'd want to read the pressure off of)
{parts # 7634 and # 7441} $30.95 + $42.95
** OR
a single banjo bolt with the scrader on the end in the CSI size
8mm x 1.0 pitch
{part # 7427} - $32.95
hmm- maybe I'll go the cheap route...#7427
(these are list prices from the price list - most parts stores will
discount this by a tad)
EWong
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:35:06 -0500
From: Rob Ditusa Subject: EFI and Fuel Pressure Gagues
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Ed,
What is the web address???
RD>>> 01/30/98 01:03pm>>> I pop'd over to the OTC tool web page and
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:39:42 -0600 (CST)
From: "Bruce Burden" Subject: gears for your tacoma
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> it is possible and probably cheaper to go with a set of 437 with the extra> power the new engiens put out they should suit your purpose> 4.3x's would be well matched for a Taco/4Runner with 31's
and 4.10's now. Except that nobody makes 4.3x's for the Taco/
4Runner.
Bruce
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Bruce Burden bruceb@isd.tandem.com Tandem Computers Inc.
512-432-8944 Network Verification 14231 Tandem Blvd.
Auto answer(4 rings) Austin, TX 78726
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:51:22 -0500
From: Ed Ruf Subject: GPS
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
On 08:44 AM 1/17/98 +0000, Henry Brimmer wrote:>i suggest considering a garmin 12xl>i have a garmin 45xl and love its capabilities: i carry it while i
hike>(in one of the highest pockets of my fishing vest), antenna
extension>cable from radio shack to mount on window, ability to download
points to>pc or macintosh, powered both by battery or cigarette-lighter...>the 45xl is the older model and has trouble keeping its lock on>satellites if in dense forests or deep narrow canyons (to sail or on
the>desert its 100%)>but the 12xl, with twelve channel availability works even indoors -->i've been told...
Conditionally. You still almost need line of sight through a window.
I just picked up a Garmin GPS III, which is also a 12 channel unit. I
just turned it on in my home office. Picked up three sats to the west
through the window immediately. Then it picked one up to the east
through the roof. This is a stick framed, shingled roof ranch. The
estimated error isn't great though ~85 ft.I tried it in my office at
NASA LaRC this morning, no dice, but then I even have trouble with FM
radio stations as I'm surrounded with 40, 70 and 100 ft dia steel
vacuum spheres!
For Toy related info I had it on during the ride home from work. The
indicated speed from the GPS unit correlated pretty well with my
swagged correction applied to the speedo reading for my 31" BFG
A/T's. Next challenge is to check out the speedo on my FJ at speed.
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Ed Ruf(egruf@visi.net)&(logos? http://users.visi.net/~egruf/toy4x4)
'86 Xtracab SR5 4x4 PU @ 130K with Rancho 3.5" s.lift+31x10.5+K&N
'87 4Runner SR5 Wagon @ 117K with KYB GasSprings+30x9.50
'86 Yamaha FJ1200SC @ 17K & '83 Honda XL600R Thunderin' Thumper
2.8 yr old 100# wGSD, Kaiser Klaus III http://users.visi.net/~egruf
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:30:45 -0600
From: "B. Baldwin, BWSC Marketing" Subject: J. Shackelford's HG Surprise
To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'" James Shackelford wrote about his good fortune with the recall repair of
his head gasket:>I got them to do the timing belt, tune up, and alignment. The>whole thing cost me $230.00 and they gave me a rental car for three days>FREE.
That's great. I wasn't so lucky from a Dallas-area dealer. My brother took
my truck in for the head gasket recall and asked how much more for the
timing belt while they were doing it and they gave him an estimate of $650.
So we just went with the recall repair. I think the dealer was trying to
use us up.
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:32:59 +0100
From: "Andy Inman" Subject: Knocking noise from front drive shafts?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> Just put a little grease on the 4 steering limiters. It will still make> a little noise but much less than before>> Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
Thanks Chris! But, excuse me for being dumb :) what do they look
like? And does that mean that all is ok down there after all?
- -AndyI-
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:46:49 -0800
From: Chris Geiger Subject: Knocking noise from front drive shafts?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
They look like little pads, get some one to turn the wheel and look at
what limits the truning of the tires.
Andy Inman wrote:>> Just put a little grease on the 4 steering limiters. It will still> make>> a little noise but much less than before>>>> Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html>> Thanks Chris! But, excuse me for being dumb :) what do they look> like? And does that mean that all is ok down there after all?>> -AndyI-
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:06:25 -0600 (CST)
From: "Bruce Burden" Subject: mail to Motive Gear
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Hi Norman,>> None of the e-mail addresses on the Motive Gear web site work. If anyone has a> valid address for them, I'd like to send them some mail encouraging them to> offer Tacoma gear sets.> Here is the address I used:
info@midwesttruck.com
When I sent Midwest email, I did receive a voice-mail from somebody
stating that, yes, Motive was planning R&P sets. However, when I
called, I couldn't find the person - or, rather, a person with the
name I was asking for claimed to know nothing about Taco R&P's.
And, here is a response I received from Driveline Service
of Las Vegas:
Thanks for your intrest in purchasing s ring and pinion set from Drive
train Specialists of Las Vegas. Your request for gear set for a Toyota
with tall tires is not uncommon. At this time no such sets are
available. Our major supplier Motive Gear is planning on have ring and
pinions for this application available in March of 98. We expect the
price to be less than $300.
The pre Tacoma 8" set will not work for your application, do not try it.
If you have any additional questions please call tod at 1-800-216-1632
This was sent by a fellow named "Tod". The email for
Driveline(train) Specialists is:
ujoints@intermind.net
Bruce
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Bruce Burden bruceb@isd.tandem.com Tandem Computers Inc.
512-432-8944 Network Verification 14231 Tandem Blvd.
Auto answer(4 rings) Austin, TX 78726
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:04:20 -0700
From: "Jay Kopycinski" Subject: Marlin T-Case
To: Toyota 4x4 List Darren Floen wrote:>I've got a few questions myself.#1 If you choose only one shifter,then>are both low ranges activated,or can you select one high one low,both>low etc?If its just both low,and you only want one shifter,might as well>get the 4.7 single case.#2 why then did Fourwheeler mag have to relocate>the tranny Xmember?Any idea on prices?I was planning on a 4.7 case,but>now i think i'll order a dual setup(maybe i should get a wife like>Jay's).
I checked on the 6 3/8" (I think) Ice Crawler. They told me it is not
necessary to relocate the crossmember. Price was $499 for the
kit. You need to weld the shift fork key and provide a second
transfer case.
As I sit here looking at a picture of Good 'Ole Toy on its roof, it
looks like it has the 11" dual case kit in it.
I have a question from a friend.......Anyone running a Marlin
dual case (which one) on a standard bed truck with maybe
4" or so of lift? How is your driveshaft angle and did you find
you had to install a CV on the rear driveshaft?
Jay Kopycinski '85 Toylet (ROKTOY)
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:58:45 -0500
From: Ed Ruf Subject: New Jersey emissions
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
On 07:55 PM 1/19/98 -0500, Charles Brooks wrote:>Ed Ruf wrote:>> It took much work and research to bring>> the scientific data together for presentation to the EPA. But that>> work together with clean results from more recent tests have help>> stay the testing requirements. Luckily, I happen to work with a>> member of the air pollution board at NASA LaRC.>>>> So whether its bumper height, suspension mod, or emissions laws
GET>> INVOLVED!>> If we stand idly by while politicians do something stupid, just
what>> does that say of us?>>>> Just my deflated U$0.02,>>Ed you seem to have a pretty good handle on this stuff.>Where/How do I get involved with the actual air testing?
Sorry, for the delay, i tried to find some stuff off some old backup
tapes, with no luck. IIRC, the testing was done by the regional Fed
EPA office. I also know we have a state air pollution board here in
VA. My guess is every state has one. probably a good place to start.
The main culprit here was ozone. All it takes is a total of 4 reading
overs the prescribed value in the course of a year, for two years
running. Yes, 4 in 1 year! We had a high reading that couldn't be
correlated with any other info. The reading station was several miles
from the local interstate. It wasn't hot or was there a prevailing
wing from the highway, so the source couldn't be determined. But it
took a long fight to get this reading thrown out. Luckily the
following year had only two or three readings above, so we escaped
the emissions testing down up in Fairfax.
Ed
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:12:55 -0500
From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
Subject: PreRunner - 2WD!
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Ok, its not a 4x4, but it may be of interest to this group.
As some of you know - many race trucks and pre-runners are 2WD.
Downey (and others) makes stuff to turn the 2WD truck into a mondo
travel PreRunner.
Apprently one major limiting factor on the 4WD IFS fronts (both Taco (coil over)
and Gen1-IFS (torsion bar)) is the half shafts. Ditch those and you
can get mondo travel out of it.
Those who remember - the 2WD 4Runners were just that - yank the
xfer, diffs and half shafts an add a "plug" to the back of the
spindle and violia - less dinerio and weight and mondo travel.
Yota now gets into the deal.
There is a PreRunner to be available.
Its a 4WD Taco with the 4WD removed for you.
XTra Cab only.
2.7L 4 cyl or 3.4L v6
TRD package (Bilstiens, new coils and leafs, locker avail w/ v6,
alloys, and 31x10.5)
Prices are expected to slot above the 2WD std XTra cab and the 4WD std XTra cab.
(info from AutoWeek)
EWong
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:02:42 -0500
From: Darren Floen Subject: Rubicon Trail Closed
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I agree,it would be fun to watch jeeps get smashed up.;-) I seriously
doubt that they would shut us down at Rubicon Springs,once we got there.
I have never seen fourwheelers of any type do this.Whatever.
Darren
Brandon Miller wrote:>> Cool, I'll be the first to be on the list of "The day before the Jeep> Jamboree" run. I say we camp out at Buck the day before and just hang there> all day and watch the Jeeps pass through. Could also stay at Spider but> don't think we would fit at the springs.>> Last year I camped out at spider next to the little sluice and talked with> the rock rollers all day. They were really nice and so were all the jeeps.>> -----Original Message-----> From: Darren Floen > To: Toy4x4@tlca.org > Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 8:14 PM> Subject: Re: Rubicon Trail Closed>>>I think a party crashing is in order,since the jeeps don't OWN the>>rubicon.>>>>Darren>>>>Chris Geiger wrote:>>>>>> The Piarates of the Rubicon said the same thing, that they don't close>>> it ever, I did talk to the jeep jam people and they said we can go all>>> the way to Rubicon springs and the trail may be open by the time we get>>> there. I would hate to lead the group in only to be told that we had to>>> wait or turn around, some of the guys coming from the east coast might>>> toss me on the barbi for lunch. I would love to crash their party, but>>> I hate what they do to the trail before hand. They pave it and all. I>>> would rather go before the yupies get there.>>>>>> Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html>>>>>> Brandon Miller wrote:>>>>>>> They don't close it! They just say that! That is the best time to go>>>>>>>> because you can watch all the jeeps!>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:32:58 -0700
From: "Jay Kopycinski" Subject: solid axle or IFS lock-out hub???
To: Toyota 4x4 List , DRM033@aol.com
DRM033@aol.com wrote:>Local 'yard has a set of hubs and I need to be able to tell the difference>between IFS and solid axle ones, as they are not sure. I held them up against>my truck (IFS) and the silver body part looked the same. But, the difference>is in the red turning part. My IFS hubs are flat. The ones the Jyard had>were raised on each of the "thumbpieces" of the red part. Which are these?>How to tell them apart?
I can tell you this. I do know the sliding, splined ring on the IFS hub is
different from the one used in the live axle one. The ring is the same
size and spline for both, but the length of the live axle ring is longer
than the length of the IFS one. This is the ring that the dial moves
in and out.
If you're comparing whole hubs, the axle size and spline count
will be different.......27 spline for IFS and 30 spline for live axle.
Jay Kopycinski '85 Toylet (ROKTOY)
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:44:56 -0500
From: "Wilbur M. Yegge" Subject: tranny
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
picked up the tranny and the engine mounts for my 4.3 swap. got the
mounts from downey....nice lookin units...came with new rubber pads and all
the hardware...sweet. question:how much is my 85' 5 speed worth...its got
about 140,000 miles on it....real quiet and trouble free. i figure i'll put
50 bucks on top of the cost for the Napa clutch that only had about 600
miles on it when i took the truck of the road 7 or 8 long monthes
ago....any offers??...cya.TREV
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:47:17 -0500
From: Darren Floen Subject: tranny
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Just curious,do you have to torch off the stock motor mounts with the
Downey units?
BTW,a while back(months)there was talk about Toy top speeds,I found out
today that mine will go 156 kmh(96 mph).How did i find out?The cop told
me so!I must have had a strong tailwind,but i think the cop was lying.
Darren
Wilbur M. Yegge wrote:>> picked up the tranny and the engine mounts for my 4.3 swap. got the> mounts from downey....nice lookin units...came with new rubber pads and all> the hardware...sweet. question:how much is my 85' 5 speed worth...its got> about 140,000 miles on it....real quiet and trouble free. i figure i'll put> 50 bucks on top of the cost for the Napa clutch that only had about 600> miles on it when i took the truck of the road 7 or 8 long monthes> ago....any offers??...cya.TREV
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:08:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Patrick Gers Subject: unsubcribe
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
please take me off the list...thanks, I already got an address that I
am getting this at for school, thanks...
but keep it coming to the school one....
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