Toy4x4 Digest          Sun, 18 Jan 98 12:30:01 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 663
 Today's Topics:
               85 4 runner---good price? (2 msgs)
 Antenna Mounting
 Bio
 CB antennas
 Easter Safari in Moab - Who's going?
 FYI - Powertrax No Slip
 GPS
 noise(belts)
 noises
 reversing on wet pavement (3 msgs)
 V6 Mods - Throttle Body
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:39:07 -0500
 From: matt877@juno.com (Matthew C Chapin)
 Subject: 85 4 runner---good price?
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 I found an 85 4 runner w/ 170k for $3300, is it worth it? All I know is
 it has A/C and 1 yr. old paint.  This truck would be my daily driver if I
 was to buy it.  Am I going to have to expect to put a lot into it to keep
 it going? I would like to know what you guys think.
 Thanks,  Matt
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:51:25 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: 85 4 runner---good price?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 If you don't buy it I will!  that is an awesome price, is it a wreck, rust
 bucket???
 Matthew C Chapin wrote:> I found an 85 4 runner w/ 170k for $3300, is it worth it? All I know is> it has A/C and 1 yr. old paint.  This truck would be my daily driver if I> was to buy it.  Am I going to have to expect to put a lot into it to keep> it going? I would like to know what you guys think.>  Thanks,  Matt
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:19:35 -0800
 From: Jason Redman  Subject: Antenna Mounting
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Gregg R Hayford wrote:> Here is the problem.  I just bought and mounted dual 5' Firestick> antennas behind the cab on my p/u.  I drilled holes through the lip of>> the bed rail directly behind the cab and bought mounts that basically> just screwed in above/below the holes.  It worked fine for one day but>> after a few trips on the highway at 70+ and one trip through the mall> parking garage (stupid move on my part) they are bending the lip back.>> I've taken them off for the time being as too not bend the lip back> far> enough so it can't be bent back into shape.  I'm curious how other> have> their antennas mounted.  I do want them behind the cab,  not on hood> or> back towards tail gate.  I know the CB guy showed me a mount that most>> people use for mounting antennas behind the cab.  Guess I may have to> look at it again.  Appreciate any help.  Hopefully my SWR problem in> related.  Guess I won't know until I remount the antennas,  which will>> most likely be 3-4 days.> I've got mine mounted on the back of my Delta toolbox (it's a gullwing
 style, so there's no interference getting into it when the lids are up),
 with a 90 degree mount.  There's enough play with the box's metal and
 the antenna itself that, even though I smack in on everything, it never
 bends permanently.
 Austin Marriage
 yeti@inetworld.net
 96 Tacoma XCab V6 4X4, 4"Downey, 33"BFG M/T's
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:47:44 -0800 (PST)
 From: Patrick Gers  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4  - ---Toy4x4-Request  wrote:>> Personal Bio Info>> POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name:Patrick Gers>> City & State:Parlin, NJ>> Country:USA>> E-mail address:live22@yahoo.com>> Toyota (s) year & model:1991 4x4 Pick Up>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):N>> Age:19>> Occupation:full time college student>> Marital Status:single>> Hobbies:baseball, wheeling....>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:> On line> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:>> truck is pretty much stock, Rancho RS 5000 shocks, 31-11.50 Yokahama
 Super Diggers, Double-Single Roll Bar, Manik Full Brush Guard, Ram
 Nerf Bars, Blackouts, front and rear, tinted out windows, viper alarm
 with keyless entry, V-6, 5-speed, automatic four wheel drive, american
 racing rims, red truck with grey stripe, just hit 63,000
 miles....hella 500 driving lights, baja lights on roll bar, overrail
 bed liner, and a killer sound system.....time for a lift now...
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 98 14:12:38 -0600
 From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
 Subject: CB antennas
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 OK - after all this angst about running dual ants - has anyone thought of
 running just 1 of the 2 antennas - that way you get the 'looks' of the dual
 trucker antennas, with the tuning ease, etc. of a single, and if you break the
 'live' one - just swap to the 'dummy' one.
 - - Brian
 On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Charles Brooks  wrote:>Greg Sue wrote:>>>> For a dual setup, don't forget that the coax needs to be 75 ohm from>> each antenna to the common point, and 50 ohm from the common point to>> the radio.>>Why??? If you do that you not only have an impedance mismatch at the>antenna but also at the common point.>>Charles Brooks>> ------------------------------
 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:37:14 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Easter Safari in Moab - Who's going?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I will probably be driving out for Wed to Sun from CA.  Where do I register, how much $
 Brandon
 http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~millerb/4x.html
 David Booth wrote:> It's nearly time for registration for the 1998 Red Rock Four Wheeler's Annual Easter Safari> (notice I left out the 4 letter word) in Moab.>> I'm planning on attending this year.  I'll probably go down the Saturday before Easter and> stay through Tuesday, unless my job sends me to India for a few weeks, then I'll probably go> down on Thursday through Sunday.  I've only run 3+ trails before, but I and my 4Runner are> now ready to try out some 4 trails, maybe even a 4+ that has by-passes around the really> tough sections (just in case I or my 4Runner isn't up to them).>> It would be great to meet up with people on this page and see if we can out number the Jeeps> on a couple of runs.  Please let me know if you're planning on attending, and if so when and> which trails do you hope to run.  If there is enough interest, then maybe I or someone else> can organize a schedule so that everyone knows who's running what and when.>> Thanks,>> Dave Booth> dfbooth01 @worldnet.att.net>> 1989, V6, 5-Speed, Blue, 1st Generation 4Runner.> 4.88 gears, Rear ARB, Front True Trac, Rear 1-1/2" Lift, Rancho RS5000 Shocks,> 31x10.50 BFG ATs, Toyota Aluminum 15x7 Wheels, Custom Front Bumper,> Custom Rear Bumper with Spare Tire/Gas Can Rack, and several other niffty> modifications/alterations.
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 10:00:44 -0800
 From: "Allen Jensen"  Subject: FYI - Powertrax No Slip
 To:  Last week I talked to Powertrax about their new No Slip, not limited slip.
 Their web page shows it, but no info. I received their flier the other day,
 and put their flier on my page. Here are the two pages:
 http://members.home.com/aj7/pwrtrx1.jpg
 http://members.home.com/aj7/pwrtrx2.jpg .
 Each are about 95K and 118K.
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:17:35 -0000
 From: runars@isbank.is
 Subject: GPS
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I support what this fellow is saying.  Stick only to 12 Channel models.
 I own a GARMIN 40, and just love it, but it sometimes has a hard time in
 keeping up contact.  The Garmin interface was simply the far best one,
 but nowdays, everybody seems to have copied it, so that doesn't matter
 so much.
 I recomend Garmin or Magellan.
 Runar.> -----Original Message-----> From:	Henry Brimmer [SMTP:hbrimmer@ix.netcom.com]> Sent:	Saturday, January 17, 1998 8:44 AM> To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject:	Re: GPS>> i suggest considering a garmin 12xl> i have a garmin 45xl and love its capabilities: i carry it while i> hike> (in one of the highest pockets of my fishing vest), antenna extension> cable from radio shack to mount on window, ability to download points> to> pc or macintosh, powered both by battery or cigarette-lighter...> the 45xl is the older model and has trouble keeping its lock on> satellites if in dense forests or deep narrow canyons (to sail or on> the> desert its 100%)> but the 12xl, with twelve channel availability works even indoors --> i've been told...> so i'd like to upgrade to a 12xl...> if someone wants to get started with gps and lives in an open space> situation, i'll sell you my 45xl set up... contact me directly..> or for garmin info go to:> www.garmin.com>> henry brimmer> tlca 5084
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:04:48 -0700
 From: Herman Snodgrass  Subject: noise(belts)
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Hello all,
 I was changing the belts on my '86 truck(sr5) yesterday and I think I
 couldn't get the alternator belt tight enough.  It now screams bloody
 murder sometimes.  Is there some trick to getting the alt. belt tight?  It
 seems rather difficult due to it position.(under the p/s pump)
 TIA
 -Herman Snodgrass
 '86 toy 4x4 sr5
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:44:19 -0800
 From: Jason Redman  Subject: noises
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Jeffrey Delzer wrote:> This isn't the wailing sound of a dry power steering pump, is it?>> Jeff Delzer
 No, I've got all full fluid levels, and no leaks.  I've also got no idea
 what exactly it is, so I'm taking it to MR. Toy dealer tomorrow so he
 can look at it.
 Austin Marriage
 yeti@inetworld.net
 96 Tacoma XCab V6 4X4, 4"Downey, 33" BFG M/T's
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 06:45:39 -1000 (HST)
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: reversing on wet pavement
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Michael Ken Chen wrote:>> 	 i never know how shitty the extra cab was in reversing on wet> pavement until this weekend.  it really sucks cuz it cost me a lot of> money that was unneccessary.  anyhow, here is the story... i tried to make> a turn into a steep - short driveway.  i realized i didn't have room 1/2> way down (realize it was only like 6ft long.  anyhow... i tried to> reverse, but my wheels kept on slipping.  i slid all the way down and> rested my big bumper onto the stone column.  i had no choice but to get a> tow truck cuz there was nothing i could do cuz i kept on spinning.  now,> my question is... i forgot to try this, but i was wondering, is it> possible to engage 4wd going in reverse?  cuz i could not go forward even> a cm.  but i could spin back.  can you actually engage the front hubs> going in reverse?
 You didn't say what 4WD system you have. With ADD or manual hubs, sure,
 no problem. with auto hubs, i don't think so. But I don't think Toyota
 put auto hubs on anything newer than 1988.
 Popping some air our of your tires would have helped too.
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:20:23 -0000
 From: runars@isbank.is
 Subject: reversing on wet pavement
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Now you know why real man lock their own hubs....
 Runar> -----Original Message-----> From:	Michael Ken Chen [SMTP:mikechen@u.washington.edu]> Sent:	Sunday, January 18, 1998 7:56 AM> To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject:	reversing on wet pavement>>> 	 i never know how shitty the extra cab was in reversing on wet> pavement until this weekend.  it really sucks cuz it cost me a lot of> money that was unneccessary.  anyhow, here is the story... i tried to> make> a turn into a steep - short driveway.  i realized i didn't have room> 1/2> way down (realize it was only like 6ft long.  anyhow... i tried to> reverse, but my wheels kept on slipping.  i slid all the way down and> rested my big bumper onto the stone column.  i had no choice but to> get a> tow truck cuz there was nothing i could do cuz i kept on spinning.> now,> my question is... i forgot to try this, but i was wondering, is it> possible to engage 4wd going in reverse?  cuz i could not go forward> even> a cm.  but i could spin back.  can you actually engage the front hubs> going in reverse?> ------------------------------
 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:05:39 -0800 (PST)
 From: Michael Ken Chen  Subject: reversing on wet pavement
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 well, i have automatic hubs.  not sure what ADD is.  i heard it is
 all time 4wd? is that right?  anyhow...  so, i am not sure if i could have
 locked my hubs in going in reverse.  i forgot to try it.  is it just like
 locking in going forward?  cuz i know pathfinders (older models) you have
 to lock in going forward, and unlock going backwards.  like a screw...
 can anyone tell me if the 92' trucks can lock in going in reverse?
 thanks... so maybe i wont have to call a $60 tow truck...
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 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:30:05 -0700
 From: Herman Snodgrass  Subject: V6 Mods - Throttle Body
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>	Boring out the throttle body and installing a larger throttle plate is>an easy and effective way to increase airflow 10-20% on the V6 EFI>engines. It works together with your other air flow mods (headers,>porting, larger exhaust, K&N Filtercharger) to increase throttle>response and power.>	Both Downey and Performance Products market these, Downey's is a 3mm>overbore for around $360 and Perf/Prod is a 4mm overbore for only $285.>I went with Perf/Prod and am very happy with it.  They actually have you>send it in to RC Engineering in Torrance, CA (four day turnaround time).>So, those of you in the area might just call RC Eng. and cut out the>middleman!!
 Does this work only for the v6 or both the v6 and 22re/22rte
 Thanks
 Herman Snodgrass
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