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Toy4x4 Mailing List Digest v1n654

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 Toy4x4 Digest          Wed, 14 Jan 98 00:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 654
 Today's Topics:
 #651 ((Dual Batteries))
 4runner rust repair
 BATTERIES
 Bio (2 msgs)
 Bio - TLCA
 Downey 4 Cyl. Header Install--Suggestion/Tips?
 Easter Safari in Moab - Who's going?
 Front Tire Tilt (6 msgs)
 FW: Bio
 Idler Arm Replacement
 Info (5 msgs)
 Knuckle Seal Replacement - 85 4runner (2 msgs)
 Mudding/pics
 oil leak :( (4 msgs)
 single torque rod
 starter problem
 steering & ignition problems
 theft
 theft - now what I am doing about it
 theft.... #3
 V6 (3 msgs)
 Whqt 2 Look For
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 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:42:07 -0500
 From: William Miranda  Subject: #651 ((Dual Batteries))
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Try the Panther Batteries from Chriswell Auto.
 They're all steel,.. Half the size of a regular battery (motorcycle size) put out 1000+ CCA,.. can be deep
 cycled hundreds of times (guaranteed) and are dry cell deep-cycle sealed valve regulated (svr) starved
 electrolyte batteries.  They can't leak.
 Thay are expensive though.  I think around $170.00 apiece.
 1-800-44-CRANK
 Black Panther
 Crischell Automotive Products, LLC
 PO Box 260965
 Highlands Ranch, CO 80126
 Fax 303.791.2807
 http://www.blackpanther.com/
 ((Ok, what kind of success have you all had with squeezing dual batteries in
 the toy engine bay with a 22RE? I'd love to go duals since I hope to get a
 winch soon, but I'm having trouble figuring out how/where to mount a
 second battery. The best I can figure with my '87 is to relocate the
 washer reservoir and squeeze two batteries in that area...
 ej@off-road.com   http://www.off-road.com/~ej))
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 Bill Miranda      1990 4Runner SR5/V6
 31x10.5s                K&N FilterCharger
 Dynomax Cat-Back          Garmin GPS
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:18:42 -0500
 From: Rick  Subject: 4runner rust repair
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  Commonly this is handled cheapest by getting two used front fenders and
 cutting out the requisite arch to replace on the rear.  I know it does not
 really appear so but they are the identical shape, f/r.
 YMMV,
 Rick ( rjhrfam@worldnet.att.net )
 - 83 FJ60 (for sale)
 - 88 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd (mine)
 - - 94 4Runner SR5 V6 auto (hers)
 Member- Carolina Cruisers, CNC 4x4, Toyota Land Cruiser Association
 TLCA #5042
 - -----Original Message-----
 From:	Clif Moyers [SMTP:cmoyers%mickey.cti-pet.com@cti-pet.com]
 Sent:	Tuesday, January 13, 1998 2:09 PM
 To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject:	4runner rust repair
 Has anyone seen replacment sheetmetal arches to weld in when repairing
 the rust over the rear wheel wells on a 1st Gen 4runner?  It appears
 that there was contamination of the quarter panel metal over both wheel
 wells, probably from the fabrication welding process.  Looking into the
 openings over the wheel wells from the inside, the quarter-panel metal
 over both wells has tumors of rust, mostly localized within a couple of
 inches where this metal is welded.  Proper repair will be to cut out all
 of the cancer and weld in new arches.  Any help?
 Clif
 - --
 Clif Moyers
 (cmoyers@mickey.cti-pet.com)
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:14:53 -0800
 From: "Nate & Nicole Mutch"  Subject: BATTERIES
 To: "Toyota mailing list"  Just thought I might add some light to the battery chat. Batteries fall
 into 3 main catagories...with some variations.
 Standard automotive, rv marine and deep cycle.
 Standard automotive need a large available amperage for a short duration,
 usually under a minute until the vehicle is started,
 after which the battery is immediately recharged.It is constructed with
 thinner lead platesTypically doesn't discharge more than 10%. Full deep
 cycling of this battery, 70% or more, will kill this battery if done 8-10
 times.Usually rated in cold cranking amps which is the number of amperes a
 battery at -18C(0 F.) can deliver over 30 seconds without falling below a
 voltage of 1.2v per cell (7.2v combined)
 Deep cycle batteries are designed to deliver a smaller amperage over a
 longer period of time, with longer periods between recharging.It
 incorporates thicker lead plates and denser active material and typically
 will discharge to 70% or more.It is capable of doing this 400-600
 times.Usually rated in reserve capacity, which is the number of minutes a
 new fully charged battery can deliver 25 amps @ 27 C., (81 F.), while
 maintaining a voltage of 1.7v per cell.
 R.V.Marine fall somewhere in the middle, having to be capable of
 starting an engine, and power accessories found on larger boats, as well as
 being constructed more ruggedly for the vibrations of marine life.
 These are my choice for off-roading with accessories, such as winches &
 lights, and large stereos, as they have the best of both worlds.
 my 2 amps worth, Nate
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:36:53 -0600
 From: Jennifer Lippold  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4  Toy4x4-Request wrote:>> Personal Bio Info>> POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name: Steve Harron>> City & State: Houston, TX>> Country: United States>> E-mail address: zoochic@flash.net  NOTE: I get razzed every time I use this address.  The address and my internet service was set up by my fiance'!  She is a zoo keeper, 'nuff said!>> Toyota (s) year & model: 1995 4Runner 4X4; V6 with 5 Speed>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):No. What is TLCA?>> Age:28>> Occupation: Air Operations Manager for Fox Sports Cable Television>> Marital Status: Single until August 29th!  That's when I get married!>> Hobbies: Working on cars, collecting rare LP's (records), home repairs, riding motorcycles, boating, and of course... 4 wheeling.>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Surfing the web>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: This is my first 4X4.  I have been interested in wheeling since I took a crazy/dangerous ride in a '71 K5 Blazer!(Do those things only come in orange?)  The 4Runner is my daily driver also.  I feel that I am a fairly accomplished mechanic.  I have two classic cars that I totally restored (66 Ford T-Bird and 68 Ford Torino Convertable).  I have rebuilt engines, trannies, suspensions, carbs, and axles.  I've rewired, customized, painted, and sewn interiors.  The only thing I haven't tried is taking apart a 4X4 hub! (please note the aprehension in my voice!)  My cousin restores Ford Mustangs for a living and I help him often.  That way I can use his tools and lift!
 The current mods to my truck are as follows:
 Downey K&N free flow intake
 Free flow cat and muffler
 Bilstein Shocks
 Downey Rear Coil Springs
 Auburn Limited Slip in rear axle
 Warn Premium Manual Hubs
 Warn Black Diamond Steering Stabilizer
 4 KC Daylighters
 2 Hella Driving Lamps
 Toyota "Factory" brush guard
 33" BF Goodrich All Terrain Tires
 I have learned much about wheeling from Peterson's 4X4 and off road
 magazine.  Also I have been reading the back issues of this digest.  I
 hope that I can lend some positive information to the group. So far I
 have enjoyed what I've read.
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 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:04:56 -0600
 From: "Steve C."  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 ++++++>>>> Name: Steve Harron>>>> City & State: Houston, TX
 so where do you wheel?  I need a Toy friend in the area  Nissans and
 Chevs are boring!
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 Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
 capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
 Houston, Texas			Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 Edelbrock headers
 NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:37:42 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Bio - TLCA
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Jennifer Lippold wrote:>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):No. What is TLCA?
 http://www.tlca.org/
 Toyota Land Cruiser Association.  You don't need to own a cruiser to
 join...just own a 4WD toyota.  Membership is only $20/year and you get
 some really nice disounts at various parts/service places for being a
 member.
 I don't have an exact number...but I know I saved at least $300 with my
 TLCA discount last year...and already saved $500 this year.
 Scott
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 _____
 /_/_|_\__      Scott Wilson
 | _     _ :     Santa Clara, CA
 */_\---/_\'     http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
 (_)   (_)
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:16:00 +0000
 From: David Booth  Subject: Downey 4 Cyl. Header Install--Suggestion/Tips?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I'm going to help my brother install a Downey header in his 1989 4 cyl.
 Automatic 4Runner this Saturday.  He's going to hook it up to the stock
 catalytic converter with an adapter for now, and then replace the rest
 of the exhaust system later.  It looks like a fairly straight forward
 job, but I'd like to hear any tips or suggestions someone may have.
 Thanks again.  This page is great.
 Dave
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:32:20 +0000
 From: David Booth  Subject: Easter Safari in Moab - Who's going?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 It's nearly time for registration for the 1998 Red Rock Four Wheeler's Annual Easter Safari
 (notice I left out the 4 letter word) in Moab.
 I'm planning on attending this year.  I'll probably go down the Saturday before Easter and
 stay through Tuesday, unless my job sends me to India for a few weeks, then I'll probably go
 down on Thursday through Sunday.  I've only run 3+ trails before, but I and my 4Runner are
 now ready to try out some 4 trails, maybe even a 4+ that has by-passes around the really
 tough sections (just in case I or my 4Runner isn't up to them).
 It would be great to meet up with people on this page and see if we can out number the Jeeps
 on a couple of runs.  Please let me know if you're planning on attending, and if so when and
 which trails do you hope to run.  If there is enough interest, then maybe I or someone else
 can organize a schedule so that everyone knows who's running what and when.
 Thanks,
 Dave Booth
 dfbooth01 @worldnet.att.net
 1989, V6, 5-Speed, Blue, 1st Generation 4Runner.
 4.88 gears, Rear ARB, Front True Trac, Rear 1-1/2" Lift, Rancho RS5000 Shocks,
 31x10.50 BFG ATs, Toyota Aluminum 15x7 Wheels, Custom Front Bumper,
 Custom Rear Bumper with Spare Tire/Gas Can Rack, and several other niffty
 modifications/alterations.
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:25:25 -0500 (EST)
 From: rickei@sccoast.net
 Subject: Front Tire Tilt
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I Need a diagnosis.
 On my 82 PU the front pasanger side tire tilts out on the top about 5 to 10
 degrees. Can someone tell me what the probem could be? And is it something
 I can  fix with the help of a good repair manual.
 thanks in advance
 **************
 Keith Anderson
 rickei@sccoast.net
 Upriver Studio
 Conway, S.C.
 ..........................................................
 "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice"
 Geddy Lee
 Rush
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:53:43 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Front Tire Tilt
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Does this happen when the tires are pointed straight ahead or when
 turned left or right?If it happens when straight,look for a bent axle
 housing,although it would be strange that it would bend in that
 direction(wheel tilting out at the top).Is th drivers side spring
 broken?If it was a balljoint problem the tire would lean "in" at th
 top,not out(usually).My best advice would be to bring it to a good front
 end shop,and get it checked out.
 Darren Floen
 rickei@sccoast.net wrote:>> I Need a diagnosis.> On my 82 PU the front pasanger side tire tilts out on the top about 5 to 10> degrees. Can someone tell me what the probem could be? And is it something> I can  fix with the help of a good repair manual.>> thanks in advance>> **************> Keith Anderson> rickei@sccoast.net> Upriver Studio> Conway, S.C.> ..........................................................> "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice">                                                 Geddy Lee>                                                 Rush> ..........................................................
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:46:43 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Front Tire Tilt
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Jack it up and wiggle that thing to see if the wheel bearings are lose.  The
 whole wheel  just might fall off if you don't tighten it.  Take off the hubs
 and tighten the 52mm nuts.
 rickei@sccoast.net wrote:> I Need a diagnosis.> On my 82 PU the front pasanger side tire tilts out on the top about 5 to 10> degrees. Can someone tell me what the probem could be? And is it something> I can  fix with the help of a good repair manual.>> thanks in advance>> **************> Keith Anderson> rickei@sccoast.net> Upriver Studio> Conway, S.C.> ..........................................................> "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice">                                                 Geddy Lee>                                                 Rush> ..........................................................
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 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:11:12 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Front Tire Tilt
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Brandon,it is very possible that it is a bearing problem,but wouldn't
 the tire tend to tilt in at the top,instead of out,like he
 described?I've seen lots of bad bearings and they always tilted in at
 the top(a negative camber situation).Thats why i think it could be a
 housing(doubtful)or spring problem.No flames intended,just felt like
 typing!
 Darren
 Brandon Miller wrote:>> Jack it up and wiggle that thing to see if the wheel bearings are lose.  The> whole wheel  just might fall off if you don't tighten it.  Take off the hubs> and tighten the 52mm nuts.>> rickei@sccoast.net wrote:
>>> I Need a diagnosis.>> On my 82 PU the front pasanger side tire tilts out on the top about 5 to 10>> degrees. Can someone tell me what the probem could be? And is it something>> I can  fix with the help of a good repair manual.>>>> thanks in advance>>>> **************>> Keith Anderson>> rickei@sccoast.net>> Upriver Studio>> Conway, S.C.>> ..........................................................>> "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice">>                                                 Geddy Lee>>                                                 Rush>> ..........................................................
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:43:39 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Front Tire Tilt
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Good point, guess I din't read that close.  There are not too many things that it
 can be though, bent spindle, someone took it apart and put all the shims on one
 side, steering knuckle incorrectly installed or the axle is bent- not likely
 considering the direction as you said. it is pretty easy to jack the truck up
 though and that is a start, regardless something is definately wrong because there
 is no adjustment to do this.
 B
 Darren Floen wrote:> Brandon,it is very possible that it is a bearing problem,but wouldn't> the tire tend to tilt in at the top,instead of out,like he> described?I've seen lots of bad bearings and they always tilted in at> the top(a negative camber situation).Thats why i think it could be a> housing(doubtful)or spring problem.No flames intended,just felt like> typing!>> Darren>> Brandon Miller wrote:>>>> Jack it up and wiggle that thing to see if the wheel bearings are lose.  The>> whole wheel  just might fall off if you don't tighten it.  Take off the hubs>> and tighten the 52mm nuts.>>>> rickei@sccoast.net wrote:>>>>> I Need a diagnosis.>>> On my 82 PU the front pasanger side tire tilts out on the top about 5 to 10>>> degrees. Can someone tell me what the probem could be? And is it something>>> I can  fix with the help of a good repair manual.>>>>>> thanks in advance>>>>>> **************>>> Keith Anderson>>> rickei@sccoast.net>>> Upriver Studio>>> Conway, S.C.>>> ..........................................................>>> "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice">>>                                                 Geddy Lee>>>                                                 Rush>>> ..........................................................
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 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:22:53 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Front Tire Tilt
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Good points Brandon.I too would start by checking bearings,then for a
 bent rim,or something!I've been thinking about this and i find it very
 odd.He would have had to whack a curb very hard to bend a spindle,but
 anything is possible i geuss.In any case its not a good idea to drive
 the truck until the problem is found or fixed.
 Darren
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 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:05:00 +1000
 From: "Dyne, Matt"  Subject: FW: Bio
 To: "'Toy4x4 List'"  ----------
 From: Toy4x4-Request
 To: matt.dyne@telecom.com.au
 Subject: Bio
 Date: Wednesday, 14 January 1998 11:26AM
 Personal Bio Info
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name: Matt Dyne
 City & State: Canberra
 Country: Australia
 E-mail address: matt.dyne@telstra.com.au
 Toyota (s) year & model: N/A
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
 Age: 23
 Occupation: Account Manager
 Marital Status: Married
 Hobbies: Rally Driving, 4WDing
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Kevin S Bivens
 (fellow subscriber)
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: I'm not yet an owner of a
 Toyota 4x4 but I'm looking to the list as a source of information about
 4Runners and different power-ups I can do to them.
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:11:29 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: Idler Arm Replacement
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 In a message dated 98-01-13 10:43:23 EST, you write:> You might also check into one of the idler arm brackets offered by Downey>  or NWOR.  They claim to protect the arm from bending.>  -Greg> they may protect it from bending, but they in no way keep it from failing
 early.  My last Idler arm lasted approx. 1 year, and It had a Downey truss on
 it since a month after the idler arm was installed.
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 David Moore                       DRM033@aol.com
 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
 4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:12:27 -0800
 From: "Tim Diens"  Subject: Info
 To:  Name: Tim Diens
 City & State: Ellensburg, Wa
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: dienst@eburg.com
 Toyota (s) year & model: 89 4-runner SR5 22r
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
 Age: 21
 Occupation: Student
 Marital Status: Single
 Hobbies: wheeling in the snow, trail riding, some mud bogs, show and shines
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: on the internet
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: I own a 1989-runner SR5.  I
 bought it in 1993 with 12,000 miles on it from an older couple who used it
 only to go skiing.  I have done many upgrades to it,  mostly by myself:
 3in Rancho suspension
 32" Goodyear M/T
 4:88:1 ring & Pinion set front and rear
 Arb in front w/ detroit locker in rear
 On board air
 LC engineering 200 hp stage M-^V5 Pro Engine w/ 45mm pro carburetor kit
 LC engineering 4wd pro headers
 K&N oil cooler and air filter
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:20:55 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: Info
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 In a message dated 98-01-13 21:25:34 EST, you write:> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: I own a 1989-runner SR5.
 SNIP>  I have done many upgrades to it,  mostly by myself:>  3in Rancho suspension>  32" Goodyear M/T>  4:88:1 ring & Pinion set front and rear>  Arb in front
 Is this IFS?  wanna explain the front ARB if it is?
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 David Moore                       DRM033@aol.com
 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
 4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:42:24 -0500
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: Info
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  How did you fit the ARB to the front pumpkin??
 Did you use custom 8" axle housing????
 I never seen an 4 cylinder SR5 4runner before yours was the first.
 - -----Original Message-----
 From:	Tim Diens [SMTP:dienst@eburg.com]
 Arb in front w/ detroit locker in rear
 LC engineering 200 hp stage M-^V5 Pro Engine w/ 45mm pro carburetor kit
 LC engineering 4wd pro headers
 K&N oil cooler and air filter
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:55:20 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Info
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Or did he mean Auburn?
 Darren
 DRM033 wrote:>> In a message dated 98-01-13 21:25:34 EST, you write:>>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: I own a 1989-runner SR5.> SNIP>>  I have done many upgrades to it,  mostly by myself:>>  3in Rancho suspension>>  32" Goodyear M/T>>  4:88:1 ring & Pinion set front and rear>>  Arb in front>> Is this IFS?  wanna explain the front ARB if it is?>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------> David Moore                       DRM033@aol.com> 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,> 4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000>                       TLCA #5662>        Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:16:28 -1000 (HST)
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: Info
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Agustinus Gunawan wrote:> How did you fit the ARB to the front pumpkin??
 I bet his ARB in front is an ARB BUMPER :)> I never seen an 4 cylinder SR5 4runner before yours was the first.
 Lots of 1st-gen 4runners were SR5 with 4cyl.
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:14:10 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Knuckle Seal Replacement - 85 4runner
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 yeah, ya gotta take it all apart but it doesn't take that long.  I did it
 after work one evening.
 Clif Moyers wrote:> My front steering knuckle seals are leaking grease pretty seriously.> Also, noticed moisture in grease during last wheel bearing replacement.> What is involved in seal replacement.  Does this require disassembly of> the entire knuckle, or can it be done otherwise fully assembled?  You> can guess which answer I am hoping to hear!>> Clif> --> Clif Moyers> (cmoyers@mickey.cti-pet.com)
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:12:05 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Knuckle Seal Replacement - 85 4runner
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Clif Moyers wrote:>> My front steering knuckle seals are leaking grease pretty seriously.> Also, noticed moisture in grease during last wheel bearing replacement.> What is involved in seal replacement.  Does this require disassembly of> the entire knuckle, or can it be done otherwise fully assembled?  You> can guess which answer I am hoping to hear!
 Yes, you have to remove the entire knuckle, like Brandon mentioned, to
 do this properly. Toyota sells a kit with all of the needed seals and
 gaskets. Check the knuckle bearings at the same time for pitting,
 scoring, or brenelling.
 You might also want to consider replacing the axle seals at this time as
 it is not much more work to pull the axle shafts out, pull the old
 seals, and tap in new ones. Odds are, if the knuckle has moisture in it,
 the diff may too.
 Be sure upon reassembly that you pack the knuckle with grease before
 reinstalling the axle shafts.
 - --
 Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician             '86 Std. Bed 22R
 Manhattan Beach, CA				   32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
 ToyTech@off-road.com
 http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
 ************************************************************************
 TLCA# 6184/ Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR)
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:26:32 -0500
 From: "penny"  Subject: Mudding/pics
 To:  Just added a few pics to my page, check em out!  Went wheeling all day
 saturday with
 some friends with fo*ds, these guys have a "go for it attitude" for sure.
 Lady luck was with me all day, my toy was the only 4x4 that didnt get stuck
 :) I even got to rescue the biggest truck with us 79 bronco on 38.5s his
 headlights were under water! it was dark and he needed help quickly (cab
 was filling up fast) so i couldnt get a shot of it :(
 My toyota never stops amazing me...the first few pics of the day are under
 the "blue oval" link.
 Jimmy 82Toy4x4 L.B.
 purnrgy@quancon.com
 http://www.geocities.com/baja/6397/
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:00:56 -0800
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: oil leak :(
 To: "'toy4x4@tlca.org'"  I seem to have developed an oil leak on the front of my 22RE. I've
 basically got oil all over the front of the engine, primarily on the timing
 chain cover, and it has leaked down onto the front diff, steering
 stabilizer, etc.
 Any ideas how to narrow this down? Who are the usual suspects? I might go
 get the engine steam cleaned to see if I can find the leak easier. theres
 155000 miles on the clock.  I had the timing chain and head gasket replaced
 about 13 months ago -- its possible that I've had a slow leak since then,
 but I've only recently started to notice lower oil levels on the dipstick
 between oil changes.
 At least maybe this means I'm not blowing oil past the rings or valve
 seals...
 Any help or ideas would be appreciated.
 - --
 - - ej@blarg.net
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:22:39 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: oil leak :(
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Eric Johnson wrote:>> I seem to have developed an oil leak on the front of my 22RE. I've> basically got oil all over the front of the engine, primarily on the timing> chain cover, and it has leaked down onto the front diff, steering> stabilizer, etc.
 Probably the elusive front crankshaft seal. Clean the engine just to
 verify the location of the leak. The oil pump o-ring also has a nasty
 habit of leaking on motors with 100k plus miles.
 Even if this seal was replaced during timing chain R&R, the crankshaft
 pulley could be seal worn and in need of replacement or sleeved with a
 Reddi-Sleeve.
 Oh, BTW, I personally don't care for steam cleaning. I feel it
 prematurely dries seals and gaskets. Use water and a good degreaser
 instead.
 - --
 Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician             '86 Std. Bed 22R
 Manhattan Beach, CA				   32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
 ToyTech@off-road.com
 http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
 ************************************************************************
 TLCA# 6184/ Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR)
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 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:25:09 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: oil leak :(
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Sounds like the same thing that happened on my 20r in my 81 toy.The
 timing cover sprayed oil from an oil passage on the pass.side between
 the cover and the block.Thats why i pulled the head,and changed the
 gasket.If only i had known about this list at that time!The engine threw
 a rod in a mud bog the next week.DOH!
 Darren
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:23:58 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: oil leak :(
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Jim Brink wrote:>> Eric Johnson wrote:>>>> I seem to have developed an oil leak on the front of my 22RE. I've>> basically got oil all over the front of the engine, primarily on the timing>> chain cover, and it has leaked down onto the front diff, steering>> stabilizer, etc.>> Probably the elusive front crankshaft seal.
 Oooh!  What a guess!  Wish my guesses about MY ENGINE were as accurate.
 :-)
 Scott
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:14:41 -0800 (PST)
 From: rick99@jps.net (Rick Murray)
 Subject: single torque rod
 To: TOY4X4@TLCA.ORG
 Sorry this took so long to respond to, but my re-subscription to the list
 (recently changed ISP) hasn't taken completely yet.  I can post, but I don't    yet receive anything.  I get my daily fix from the WWW.>Does it work good??? The reason im asking is cuz w35s/locker im worried>about getting one and not being happy with the amount of control it>provides. Did you have to weld and where? is it adjustable?
 It works fine. It had to be welded at both ends, on the 'horse-collar'
 cross member (difficult to weld, with little room, up against the gas
 tank) and on the top of the rear differential.  No problems with it yet.
 It seems to me that acceleration stress has been transferred from the
 springs  to the pinion/ring .  No problems so far.
 Its not supposed to affect articulation, being center-mounted, thats
 why I went that way.   One drawback, if I decide to switch to the
 wider 86-and-later rear axle, it would have to be torched off.
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 Rick Murray                                22R motor ; 3-inch lift
 84 Toyota 4Runner SR5                    33" BFG M/Ts ; 4.88 gears
 Rancho Cordova, Ca.                   Rancho 9000's ; on-board air
 http://www.jps.net/rick99/             Marlin TCase #67 ; TRD LSD
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 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:11:28 EST
 From: Kconnoll  Subject: starter problem
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 The other day my friend and I were driving around in a snow covered
 parking lot, and after going around a corner pretty hard, the engine started
 making weird noises.  The tach started going really high, but the engine
 clearly wasn't going nearly as fast as indicated (fluctuating rapidly from
 2000-6500rpm).
 We shut the engine off, only to find that it wouldn't turn over.  We then
 push started it and  I drove home.  When I got the time to inspect it more
 carefully I found that I could hear the solonoid click, but the starter
 wouldn't turn.
 I had the battery checked and it was low, so I put it on the trickle
 charger while I hooked up the battery from my dads car to make sure it wasn't
 the battery- the solenoid still just clicked, and the starter did nothing.  I
 checked the wiring and everything looked allright except for one wire coming
 off the solenoid (with a female type connector).  This wire is seperate from
 the wires going into the starter.  I couldn't find where it's supposed to go,
 or even what purpose it serves.  I'm not even sure if this is causing my
 problem.
 Does anyone have any ideas as to what might be wrong, or any similiar
 experiences?   Any tips on removing the starter?(I can easily get everything
 other than the top bolt un-done, but I can't reach the top bolt with my
 wrenches.  I can reach up from underneath and touch the bolt, though.)
 Whatever help you give would be appreciated,   Kevin Connolly
 79 4x4 pickup, 20r engine
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 15:37:23 -0600
 From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
 Subject: steering & ignition problems
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 How about the slides (pins) for the calipers?  Are you wearing out an inside
 or outside *pad* faster?  OR are the pads even wearing 'funny'?  If not are
 you sure the alignment & components are up to snuff - a bad
 steering/suspension component could shift during braking and cause the pull
 (basically a temporary change in alignment).
 - - Brian
 On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Kevin Valentine  wrote:>Ok, I don't work in a Toyota shop but if it ain't tires (quality, air>alignment) or suspension it might be a sticking piston in the caliper.>>I've had the calipers replaced on 3 separate occasions.  Made no change.
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:01:20 -0800 (PST)
 From: Darrell Creeks  Subject: theft
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:17:30 EST>From: DRM033 >Subject: theft.... #3>To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>well, it has happened again.  Sometime between midnight and 8 this morning, my>truck was broken into, and this time the head unit was ripped out.  Get this:>they took out the MTX truck boxes (you know, the ones I bought last Christmas>when my last set was stolen) and set them under the truck.  I assume they were>going to come back...  I guess I have something to be thankful for.>They got in through the rear slider - pryed it open.  So, anyone have any>suggestions to secure the slider better for the future?>By the way, the speaker boxes are now attached to the truck via eye bolts, 1/4>coated-cable, and a pad lock. It may not be perfect, but slowing them down is>the best anyone can hope for.
 I cut two strips of wood that fit in the crak on both sides of the slider so
 it cant be opened at all from the outside.
 Darrell Creeks
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:11:36 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: theft - now what I am doing about it
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Well, after the little screw type rail stoppers were installed on the rear
 slider, i still felt unsafe.  So I built a little buzzer alarm.  I took a
 little piezo buzzer, a switch, and small hobby box (1"x1.5"x1/4"), and
 normally open sliding glass door switch.  I put the door swotch on the rear
 slider, and the box(with buzzer & switch attached) to the side of the cab.  It
 is not real loud, but it is loud enough to notice if you a sticking your head
 into the slider.  I guess I had to build something to set my mind more at
 ease.
 I have yet to check out that site for motion sensor...
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 David Moore                       DRM033@aol.com
 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
 4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:48:39 -0500
 From: Charles Brooks  Subject: theft.... #3
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Kevin Valentine wrote:> I'm being a bit cynical, but honestly there is not much you can do aside> from staying up all night with your eyes on your rig.  I'd look for a> new place to live I believe.  Shoot the little bastards!  Through 'em in> the back of your rig and haul down to the nearest river or landfill:-)
 I know your joking but thought I'd pass this along, A gentleman
 broke into a car near here a while back and was shot by the owner.
 The owner then called the police who took a statement and the
 serial number of the gun and left (With the thief).
 The owner had to pay a fine of 25 dollars for discharging a firearm
 inside city limits, and to have his car interior repaired. That was
 it! Finito! That's one of the many reasons I decided to raise my
 family here in southern Maryland. Criminal control NOT gun control!
 Charles Brooks
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:00:59 -0600
 From: Keith & Christy  Subject: V6
 To: "Toyota, Mailing"  Is the 3.0 Truck V6 common with the Camry?  I think it might be, but
 I am not certain.  Further, does it have the same Headgasket problem?  I
 spoke with a friend of mine today who says his Camry V6 is leaking oil
 around the headgasket area.  TIA
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 Keith Campbell
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 Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
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 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:17:38 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: V6
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 No the motors are complete different . My wife's 88 V6 Camry had that
 problem too. I talked to toyota about it and they told me that the Camry
 engine does not have the same head gasket problem as the truck. My
 4Runner had its head gasket replaced by toyota last year. The leak on my
 wife's car was fixed by replacing the valve cover gaskets and the spark
 plug gaskets. The total parts bill was $80 and I did the labor myself.
 Jim says it should take him 2 hours but it took me all day to do as the
 fuel injection and intake systems need to be removed. Can I talk about
 this on the list? My wife's Camry sees more offroad driving than the
 average SUV. But the wife won't let me put  a set of 31" on it ...yet....
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html>     Is the 3.0 Truck V6 common with the Camry?  I think it might be, but> I am not certain.  Further, does it have the same Headgasket problem?  I> spoke with a friend of mine today who says his Camry V6 is leaking oil> around the headgasket area.  TIA
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:18:02 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: V6
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Keith & Christy wrote:>>     Is the 3.0 Truck V6 common with the Camry?  I think it might be, but> I am not certain.  Further, does it have the same Headgasket problem?  I> spoke with a friend of mine today who says his Camry V6 is leaking oil> around the headgasket area.  TIA
 No, they are not the same. The block and heads are totally different.
 Possible cause on the Camry is leaking cam seals but I have done a few
 cylinder head gaksets for external oil leakage. It is not that common
 however so I would look towards the upper-engine area, including the V/C
 gaskets.
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 Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician             '86 Std. Bed 22R
 Manhattan Beach, CA				   32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
 ToyTech@off-road.com
 http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
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 TLCA# 6184/ Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR)
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 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:49:27 -0500
 From: duaned  Subject: Whqt 2 Look For
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Jim:
 Thanks for the reply.  Used T100s in the Midwest are hard to come by in
 the configuration I am looking for, but I am keeping an eye out.  Is the
 moment up yet to discuss any other items with the T100 that I should
 keep a trained eye on?  Look forward to your reply.
 Duane
 Central Northwest IN
 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:22:44 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: What 2 Look For?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 duaned wrote:> Hi Guys!> I looking around to acquire a 1995 T100 Xtra cab SR5 (2WD I know :-().> Is there anything I need to pay attention at in particular (besides the> normal stuff)?  I know the 3.4L became available in 1995, but unsure> where or not head gaskets are an issue with this motor(as they are> w/3.0L).
 3.4s are under a recall status (please don't flame me personally). Most
 3.4s however are still covered under the powertrain warranty.
 No other problems that I can mention at the moment.
 Other than a full set of dashboard gauges and wheels, are there> any other significant advantages of the SR5 over a DX?  Any thoughts,> comments, ideas would be appreciated.
 DX models can be found with the full gauges as they were available as an
 option in a package with other items. Look for a DX with variable
 intermittent wipers and tilt wheel.
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 Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician             '86 Std. Bed 22R
 Manhattan Beach, CA                                32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
 ToyTech@off-road.com
 http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
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