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Publish date: Jan 13, 1998
By: ORC STAFF
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Toy4x4 Digest Tue, 13 Jan 98 00:30:02 (HST) Volume 1 : Issue 652
Today's Topics:
4.56 gearing
81 Carb won't drop to Low idle speed when warm ?? (2 msgs)
89 4 Runner
Batteries (2 msgs)
BFG Mud Terrain vs. Super Swamper TSL (2 msgs)
Body Dent Removal
dual batteries? (2 msgs)
Fort Hood January 24th & 25th
FREE FLOW CAT
FREE FLOW CAT (partial re-post)
Gorman Snow Run (2 msgs)
Gorman Trip
Idler Arm Replacement (3 msgs)
Leaf to Coil Swap?
Locked and ready (2 msgs)
Locked and ready (gear oil)
Optima Battery (3 msgs)
optima or panter
OPTIMA RULES (2 msgs)
steering & ignition problems (2 msgs)
Stuff for sale
theft.... #3 (5 msgs)
theft.... #3 - motion sensors? (3 msgs)
Timing Chain & Removing the Head (2 msgs)
Toy V6 headers (2 msgs)
What 2 Look For? (2 msgs)
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:42:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Rompies Subject: 4.56 gearing
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
John,
I am not sure what year truck you have, but if it is an IFS model I have
some 4.56 gears that was going to sell this summer at a swap meet. They are
from a '91 4runner and when I pulled them out had about 40.000 miles on them
I have since gone to 5.29's. If you are interested or for that matter if
anyone else would like them call me or e-mail me I would like to get $225.00
for them you pay shipping. I live in Denver, so it is some what central. I
will be in Moab for the CRUISE MOAB '98 event so if some one was going I
could take them and deliver
Thanks
(303)514-1165
romps@earthlink.net
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91 4runner TLCA# 6136
4" Pro Comp 5" Rear Costum
33'sBFG-MT 5.29's ARB Rear
Locker ARB Frt.Bumper w/Warn
Nerf Bars Flares Quick Disc.
Sway Bars Costum Tow Set Up
9000's w/Dual Control Borla
Cat Back K&N Filter Charger
550 Watts of sound.
Tom Rompies
Member Rising Sun
Denver CO
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:05:55 EST
From: Specilizd Subject: 81 Carb won't drop to Low idle speed when warm ??
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
This question is mostly directed at Jim Brinkman.
I have an 81 4X4. The carb is supposed to keep a high idle speed while the
engine warms up. The it is supposed to drop of to the low idle speed. My
truck is not consistantly dropping to the low idle. This is the stock carb.
I've sprayed cleaner and lubricant on the linkage with no help. Is there an
adjustment? You can refer to page numbers in the Toyota manual if that helps.
Oh? and this is a California smog equipped truck.
Steve Keene
TLCA 5414
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:31:59 -0800
From: Jim Brink Subject: 81 Carb won't drop to Low idle speed when warm ??
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Specilizd wrote:>> This question is mostly directed at Jim Brinkman.
Who?> I have an 81 4X4. The carb is supposed to keep a high idle speed while the> engine warms up. The it is supposed to drop of to the low idle speed. My> truck is not consistantly dropping to the low idle. This is the stock carb.> I've sprayed cleaner and lubricant on the linkage with no help. Is there an> adjustment? You can refer to page numbers in the Toyota manual if that helps.> Oh? and this is a California smog equipped truck.
Sorry, I can't point out the exact page numbers in the manual but I can
direct you to the "EC", emissions control section. This will outline the
various secondary carburetor systems.
First off, has the choke housing been adjusted? If the choke is set too
rich, it will not pull off, even in the warmest weather.
I seem to remember the early 20/22R had the choke housing heated by
coolant. Not totally sure though as this varied by engine calibration.
If not, the choke heater is supplied voltage from the alternator. If the
alternator is unable to supply this voltage and the choke heater is not
coming on, this too will keep the choke set.
Are the vacuum lines intact to the choke pull-off and/or choke breaker
system? If the vacuum lines are missing or the diaphram bad in the choke
breaker/pull off, the choke will stay on. In addition, if the VSV,
vacuum switching valve, is not working, adequate vacuum is not getting
to these systems cuasing the choke to stay on.
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Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician '86 Std. Bed 22R
Manhattan Beach, CA 32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
ToyTech@off-road.com
http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
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TLCA# 6184/ Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR)
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:23:47 -0800
From: Jim Brink Subject: 89 4 Runner
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Bill Stormont wrote:>> Does anyone have any opinion on this year and model with a 22r in it?> I'm considering an automatic. What are the pros an cons of these> transmission types?
Pretty underpowered but the engine/trans. combo. is very reliable. Keep
the trans. serviced at specified intervals and it won't let you down.
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Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician '86 Std. Bed 22R
Manhattan Beach, CA 32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
ToyTech@off-road.com
http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
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TLCA# 6184/ Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR)
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:05:40 -0600 (CST)
From: pelland@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Batteries
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
In response to several posts yesterday,
I was just in the market for a new battery, my winch/lights killed mine.
( it still started the truck but winching was out of the question)
I wanted the optima yellow top for winching, I was told by several
distributors that optima does not recomend the yellow top as a starting
battery. They said using the yellow top as a starting battery would kill it.
I ended up with a preditor battery, dry cell but not spiral, small battery,
brass terminals(dual mount) and same dollars as the yellow top $189 over the
counter. I was told that this manafucturer says it is ok to both deep cycle
and start with the same battery. I have only had it a week but plan to due
some test winching this weekend to test it out.
You could easly fit two of these preditor batterys in the battery area of a
Toyota. Can you say $$$$$. I only bought one.
Last weekend I saw a guy who had moved his battery to the front of the bed
of his toy P/U. He used a remote mounting kit that he got at a speed
shop(wire, terminals,plactic enclosure box.). His reason was rust but it
would also make sense to mount a second battery there.
Starting battery under the hood and deep cycle battery in the back.
Ps my experience is that optima does not answer thier 800 number it was busy
all day. off the hook?
Mike Pelland 1994 extra cab pick-up
Lots of extras
http://www2.netcom.com/~pelland/
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:43:17 -0500
From: Darren Floen Subject: Batteries
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
pelland@ix.netcom.com wrote:>> In response to several posts yesterday,>> I was just in the market for a new battery, my winch/lights killed mine.> ( it still started the truck but winching was out of the question)> I wanted the optima yellow top for winching, I was told by several> distributors that optima does not recomend the yellow top as a starting> battery. They said using the yellow top as a starting battery would kill it.>> I ended up with a preditor battery, dry cell but not spiral, small battery,> brass terminals(dual mount) and same dollars as the yellow top $189 over the> counter. I was told that this manafucturer says it is ok to both deep cycle> and start with the same battery. I have only had it a week but plan to due> some test winching this weekend to test it out.>> You could easly fit two of these preditor batterys in the battery area of a> Toyota. Can you say $$$$$. I only bought one.>> Last weekend I saw a guy who had moved his battery to the front of the bed> of his toy P/U. He used a remote mounting kit that he got at a speed> shop(wire, terminals,plactic enclosure box.). His reason was rust but it> would also make sense to mount a second battery there.> Starting battery under the hood and deep cycle battery in the back.>> Ps my experience is that optima does not answer thier 800 number it was busy> all day. off the hook?>> Mike Pelland 1994 extra cab pick-up> Lots of extras> http://www2.netcom.com/~pelland/
In my 81 toy,i had a huge catterpillar starting battery in the box.I
made my own cradle and cover for it and wired it directly to the stock
system.I used the stock battery tray for a place to put my tools and
winch solenoids.These batteries have a huge reserve capacity and a
1100cca rating.Once i drowned the engine out in a swamp,so i had to
winch myself out with no alternator.The pull used all the cable on the
winch(110')and after i got everything dried up it spun the engine over
just like it was a freshly charged battery.When it was really cold up
here(40 C.)my truck was the only thing around that would start.
These batteries can be had for around $220(canadian).If you're
thinking about a bed mounted battery this might be a cheap alternative
to an expensive Optima.
Darren
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:09:19 -0600
From: Keith & Christy Subject: BFG Mud Terrain vs. Super Swamper TSL
To: "Toyota, Mailing" My 91 Runner was equipped with Bridgestone Mud Duelers when I
purchased it. It was so loud that on the test drive my wife thought I
had killed the engine at a stop sign because the tires were not moving
and therefore had stopped making noise. The previous owner never
bothered to rotate the tires, and they had worn unevenly. Every other
lug was raised about a 1/4 of an inch from the previous lug. It may
have been her not rotating the tires, but those mud tires where not
worth the NVH in my opinoin. I now run BFG All Terrains, and I am the
local GO TO guy for retrieving stuck 4by's. The AT's are nearly silent
on the street and perform as well as the Bubba Mud tires did off road.
My .02 cents worth
- --
Keith Campbell
/////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:24:34 -0800
From: Scott Wilson Subject: BFG Mud Terrain vs. Super Swamper TSL
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Keith & Christy wrote:>> My 91 Runner was equipped with Bridgestone Mud Duelers when I> purchased it. It was so loud that on the test drive my wife thought I> had killed the engine at a stop sign because the tires were not moving> and therefore had stopped making noise. The previous owner never> bothered to rotate the tires, and they had worn unevenly. Every other> lug was raised about a 1/4 of an inch from the previous lug. It may> have been her not rotating the tires, but those mud tires where not> worth the NVH in my opinoin. I now run BFG All Terrains, and I am the> local GO TO guy for retrieving stuck 4by's. The AT's are nearly silent> on the street and perform as well as the Bubba Mud tires did off road.> My .02 cents worth
I've been running Bridgestone dueler MT's for 6-7 months now and I've
eaten (on rocks mostly)(and of course pavement) plenty of tread off
already, so I can speak of wear. They're wearing evenly (I watch the
pressure, and rotate at regular intervals) They're not outrageously
loud either. I wouldn't write the Dueler MT off yet...sounds like yours
were screwed up royally before you ever got to drive on them. I talked
to many people that had both brands of MT and all of them said they got
many more miles outta the Duelers...that was the deciding factor for
me. :-)
Scott
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/_/_|_\__ Scott Wilson
| _ _ : Santa Clara, CA
*/_\---/_\' http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
(_) (_)
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:56:26 -0800
From: Jason Redman Subject: Body Dent Removal
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I dented my tailgate on my last 4by trip, and I've heard that you can
use toilet plungers to pull some dents out (the metal is not creased,
and there is no chipped paint). Is this true?
I've also heard that there are special suction cup designed exactly for
this purpose (with some sort of vacuum plunger?). If so, where can I
get/use on?
BTW, the Los Coyote Indian Reservation just does NOT like me!
Thank for the comments,
Austin Marriage
yeti@inetworld.net
96 Tacoma 4X4 XCab V6, 4"Downey, 33"BFG M/T's
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:02:24 -0800
From: Scott Muir Subject: dual batteries?
To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org" Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:43:04 -1000 (HST)
Eric Johnson wondered:>Ok, what kind of success have you all had with squeezing dual batteries
in>the toy engine bay with a 22RE?
Saw one recently with a custom battery mount that made use of the space
where the AC compressor would be if you had one. I didn't notice
if it was attached to the frame or the wheel well but it wasn't attached
to the engine.
Personally I would contemplate running battery #2 in a 'delta box' type
deal in the
bed... And then I'd ask on the list if I should do it, and then someone
would call
me an idiot and tell me a better way of doing it...
Scott.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:30:07 -8 GMT
From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III" Subject: dual batteries?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
From: Eric Johnson Ok, what kind of success have you all had with squeezing dual
batteries in the toy engine bay with a 22RE? I'd love to go duals
since I hope to get a winch soon, but I'm having trouble figuring
out how/where to mount a second battery. The best I can figure with
my '87 is to relocate the washer reservoir and squeeze two
batteries in that area...
funny you should mention this... just came back winter CES in vegas. and
like when this topic came up for stereos in the first gen 4runners, i told
you about a winning system in one. and the car was there and i took tons of
digital pixs. so as soon as i develop the pictures, i'll post or send them
and this guy has a great setup for dual yellow top optimas. one on the OEM
spot and the other is right next to it. he has a 22r so there were tons of
rooms to stuff these gigantic guys into it. also, he custom made the second
platform for the other batt with a cool holder for the fuse. each terminal
on the battery housed dual terminal that had 2/0 gauge power cable on it.
really cool. too bad i couldn't listen to it...
other option that you may not know about is that the red top optimas
WERE sold as a 6v version. how does this look like? take the regular 12v
sucker, slice it in half so each half has 3 'cells' in it. then you can
wired them in series so you get 12 volts. the cool part is that you can
mount these where normal size one wouldn't go and still have that optima batt.
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Leo G. Divinagracia III
ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:38:41 -0600
From: dphills1@mmm.com
Subject: Fort Hood January 24th & 25th
To: "Toy4x4(a)tlca.org" Calling all Texas Toys. The Houston J**p club is going to have a little=
git together @ Ft. Hood as mentioned above. Some friends and I are
planning to crash there party. You can get a pretty good idea of what
Ft. Hood is like by checkin out Rockcrawler.com on the net. They have
photo's of misc. obstacles you can conquer. It's lots-o-fun!!!
E-mail me direct if you have questions.
Doug
dphills1@mmm.com
=
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 15:41:01 -0700
From: Jeff Moskovitz Subject: FREE FLOW CAT
To: "Toyota list" >Does anyone know a source for a replacement or performance catalytic>converter? I am sorta hesitant about supporting Downey or NWOR, from what I>have heard from the list...Oh, my truck is an '85 22R, carbureted
Dan,
I just redid the exhaust on my 1986 22R-TE P/U last week. One of the
pieces I used was a Random Technologies free flow cat. There was an
article on them in "Turbo" a couple of months ago.
The part number was #822500, 2.5" weld-in style cat. The cost, including
shipping, was $187. Their phone number is (770) 978-0264.
I re-did everything from the headpipe back, increasing the tubing
diameter to 2.5" and putting in a Walker DynoMax Super Turbo muffler.
I'm really happy with the results, but since I changed three things at
once (tubing size, muffler and cat) it's really hard to say how much any
single component contributed to the overall effect.
I asked around a little before I bought the cat, and Random Technologies
seems to have a pretty good rep, FWIW.
Jeff
BTW, Random warranties the unit's core for 2 yrs/25k miles, and the
stainless steel casing for 5 yrs/50k miles...
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:17:28 EST
From: DRM033 Subject: FREE FLOW CAT (partial re-post)
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
In a message dated 98-01-12 11:02:20 EST, you write:> Does anyone know a source for a replacement or performance catalytic> converter?
I got mine from Performance Products ( 1-800-553-2840 ). I posted this a few
days ago.>>>I purchased the "free flow cat" from Performance Products approx. 2 & 1/4
years ago and installed it on my truck. It was fine till today, on my way to
school from home on the interstate it had a problem. Just behind the front
mounting flange & ahead of the body of the cat the tube broke clean in half.
Not sure why, ir how long it has been stressed/cracked (no sound evidence
before this), but I just wanted to put this out there to anyone who might be
interested in this product.
By the way, $20 at Midas fixed me up, but makes me mad I could have done it
myself had I been at home ...>>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------
David Moore DRM033@aol.com
90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
TLCA #5662
Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:29:13 -0800
From: "Michael Medart" Subject: Gorman Snow Run
To: "Toy4x4 Digest" > From: "John M. Smith" > Subject: Gorman Trip> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> With regards to the Gorman Trip where? and when? will> people be meeting, I am new to this list and look forward> to tagging a long if that is OK
Hi John...
Sure that's okay, and anyone else wanting to tag along please feel free
to do so. We're meeting at the Carl's Jr. in Gorman (there's only one
exit to Gorman, and it's off of the 5 freeway) at 9:30am on Sat. Jan.
17th. If you have a snow sled or disk, bring 'em too. This run will be
suitable for stock-type vehicles also, but tow hooks front and back
don't hurt a bit (as you might well have to be pulled or do the pulling)
and also a CB tuned to channel 17 is preferred.
See you there!
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Michael Medart, Ventura, CA bigblue@anacapa.net
1988 Toyota 4x4 X-Tra Cab V-6, Rancho/Downey
lift, 4.88 gears, Detroit E-Z locker, ARB Air Locker
Rancho RS 9000's w/remote, Con-Fer shackles/
skid plates and roof rack , 33" BFG Muds. RTI: 651
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:14:02 -0800
From: Chris Geiger Subject: Gorman Snow Run
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Count me (and my son Brian) in, see ya there.
I am going to break in those new tires!
Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
Michael Medart wrote:>> From: "John M. Smith" >> Subject: Gorman Trip>> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>>>> With regards to the Gorman Trip where? and when? will>> people be meeting, I am new to this list and look forward>> to tagging a long if that is OK>> Hi John...> Sure that's okay, and anyone else wanting to tag along please feel free> to do so. We're meeting at the Carl's Jr. in Gorman (there's only one> exit to Gorman, and it's off of the 5 freeway) at 9:30am on Sat. Jan.> 17th. If you have a snow sled or disk, bring 'em too. This run will be> suitable for stock-type vehicles also, but tow hooks front and back> don't hurt a bit (as you might well have to be pulled or do the pulling)> and also a CB tuned to channel 17 is preferred.>> See you there!>> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\> Michael Medart, Ventura, CA bigblue@anacapa.net> 1988 Toyota 4x4 X-Tra Cab V-6, Rancho/Downey> lift, 4.88 gears, Detroit E-Z locker, ARB Air Locker> Rancho RS 9000's w/remote, Con-Fer shackles/> skid plates and roof rack , 33" BFG Muds. RTI: 651> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:57:48 -0800
From: Jim Brink Subject: Gorman Trip
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
John M. Smith wrote:>> With regards to the Gorman Trip where? and when? will people be meeting,> I am new to this list and look forward to tagging a long if that is OK
John,
Like Mike said, this is primarily a snow run for the kids (aren't all of
us though?) so don't be disappointed if we don't see a lot of heavy
trail time. There is a neat obsticle course/driver's training area in
Hungry Valley, similar to the one at Hollister Hills and I'm sure you
won't be the only one left playing there at the end of the day.
See ya!
- --
Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician '86 Std. Bed 22R
Manhattan Beach, CA 32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
ToyTech@off-road.com
http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
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TLCA# 6184/ Friends of the Mojave Road (FOMR)
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 07:12:48
From: "Fisher, Gary" Subject: Idler Arm Replacement
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
My steering idler arm (??) has play in it. Is this fixable and how hard or do I
have to replace the whole idler arm? Are there bearings inside?
BTW it's an 89 with IFS.
Thanx in advance,
Gary Fisher
garyf@hpa.com.au
*******************************************
* 89 Hilux Extra Cab 2.8 Turbo Diesel *
* 32" Bald BFG MT ARB Bars all round *
* Safari snorkel, landcruiser airbox *
* Leaking radiator, lots of scratches *
*******************************************
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:35:06 -0800
From: Scott Wilson Subject: Idler Arm Replacement
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Fisher, Gary wrote:>> My steering idler arm (??) has play in it. Is this fixable and how hard or do I> have to replace the whole idler arm? Are there bearings inside?>> BTW it's an 89 with IFS.
I had the same thing on my a couple months back. I just bought a new
one from Toyota ($119 with TLCA discount) It's a little hard to remove
the old one...if you have a ball joint or pitman arm puller your job
will be easier
Scott
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/_/_|_\__ Scott Wilson TLCA #5261 CA4WDC #13393
| _ _ : 88 4Runner SR5 V6
*/_\---/_\' Santa Clara, CA
(_) (_) http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:33:58 -0600
From: John Subject: Idler Arm Replacement
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I have an 89 IFS and I just did mine this weekend. I got the part from
Jay Marks Toyota in Texas ($107.00) and installation is as easy as it
looks. 1 banana max. You should definitely do this one yourself. I
used a pickle fork to separate the arm from the truck. It just about
fell right off.
Fisher, Gary wrote:>> My steering idler arm (??) has play in it. Is this fixable and how hard or do I> have to replace the whole idler arm? Are there bearings inside?>> BTW it's an 89 with IFS.>> Thanx in advance,>> Gary Fisher> garyf@hpa.com.au> *******************************************> * 89 Hilux Extra Cab 2.8 Turbo Diesel *> * 32" Bald BFG MT ARB Bars all round *> * Safari snorkel, landcruiser airbox *> * Leaking radiator, lots of scratches *> *******************************************
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:24:14 +0000
From: David Booth Subject: Leaf to Coil Swap?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Has anyone ever looked into swapping the rear leaf springs on a 1st
generation 4Runner to a coil spring setup like the 2nd generation
4Runner?
I haven't looked at the possibility yet, but I like the idea. Let me
know your ideas or experiences.
Thanks, Dave
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:34:45 -8 GMT
From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III" Subject: Locked and ready
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
From: John Vargus Just thought i would share my experiences with my R&P install. I
finally installed my 4:88's and ARB in the rear. What a difference
^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^
it makes on and off road.
^^^ ^^^^
The front will be upgraded next weekend with 4:88's and truetrac.
^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
did anyone find anything wrong with this? i hoped he didn't shift into 4wd
with different ratio in the front than in the rear... can you say 'new x-
case?'
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Leo G. Divinagracia III
ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:54:01 -0600
From: John Vargus Subject: Locked and ready
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Yes Leo i know exactly what i installed and did not install. And no i dont
need a new transfer case. I did not mention engaging 4wheel drive? No, i
said the rear was complete and tested.
John
At 04:34 PM 1/12/98 GMT, you wrote:> From: John Vargus >> Just thought i would share my experiences with my R&P install. I> finally installed my 4:88's and ARB in the rear. What a difference> ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^> it makes on and off road.> ^^^ ^^^^>> The front will be upgraded next weekend with 4:88's and truetrac.> ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^>>did anyone find anything wrong with this? i hoped he didn't shift into 4wd>with different ratio in the front than in the rear... can you say 'new x->case?'>>>----------------------->Leo G. Divinagracia III>ldivinag@csuhayward.edu> ------------------------------
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:17:26 EST
From: DRM033 Subject: Locked and ready (gear oil)
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
In a message dated 98-01-12 10:32:32 EST, you write:>> Would i do it again, definitely. As someone said to me, JB, nothing like> the smell of gear oil at the crack of dawn :)
After hauling around numerous axle assemblies in the bed of my truck, and lots
of gear oil on my bed mat (actually, industrial door mat) that gear oil smell
never leaves me! Just upen that rear slider for constant aroma-therapy! I
love it!
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David Moore DRM033@aol.com
90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
TLCA #5662
Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:18:14 -0800
From: Scott Wilson Subject: Optima Battery
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Agustinus Gunawan wrote:>> I have this battery for 3 years in my Samurai they never have corrosion problem. Not even a slight of it.>> -----Original Message-----> From: Leo G. Divinagracia III [SMTP:LDIVINAG@barney.sbe.csuhayward.edu]> i've had an optima now for over 4 years. not the same one, but optima has> honored the 2 year replacement warranty. maybe it's just my vehicle but i've> gotten so much corrosion on the neg terminal that at worst, i can't even> start the car.
Perhaps you never killed the corrosion that the first battery started?
I know when I put in my Optima I cleaned everything VERY thoroughly to
STOP the corrosion. Many wires I completely replaced, but some just
cleaned. With a wire brush I removed as much corrosion as possible then
I soaked the wire in a Water/baking soda mixture to neutralize the
acid. I had to let my + battery cable soad for 30 minutes (!) before
the bubbling would stop!
Perhaps you should clean 'em again and soak 'em in baking soda Leo...
Scott
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:17:18 EST
From: DRM033 Subject: Optima Battery
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
In a message dated 98-01-12 09:05:00 EST, you write:>> Right now if I have to buy batery I would go to Champion 4X4, it is rated a> 1025 CCA, and 2.5 hour reverse capacity and cost only $ 52 in Sam's Club.
I got my battery from CO-OP, and it is rated for 1100 cca, not sure of the
reserve. It was under $100.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:51:09 -0500
From: Agustinus Gunawan Subject: Optima Battery
To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'" The optima are rated 800 CCA, 1100 ca. That is different rating.
CCA rated at 0 degrees while CA rated at room temp if I am not mistaken.
Three years ago when I got my optima it cost me $129+shipping which is not
cheap considering the weight.
At that time the optima stand from the crowd since the average battery have
a much less CCA for the same size but now the gap are narrowing and the
price of optima should go down.
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From: DRM033 [SMTP:DRM033@aol.com]
I got my battery from CO-OP, and it is rated for 1100 cca, not sure of the
reserve. It was under $100.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:42:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Rompies Subject: optima or panter
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
For what it is worth I installed a panther batterry in my 4runner
for several reasons; first of I like the fact of acid incase of a crash.
Second I am planning on running duals this spring and you know how cramped
the runners engine bay is but two bp 800's or one bp800 and one bp 1000 fit
in the origenal bat. tray. Third I really like the brass post they use I
have yet to find corrosion or have a loose connection. And last but not
least the steel cases around the body just makes them tougher in case of a
mishap. They do cost more than a normal unit but compared to the optima the
price is actualy cheaper. I have had mine for about 1yr. and will be buying
another soon. As for the optima some of my friends run them and they
perform just as good, if you do get one get the yellow top it is better also
the dual post allow you to mount accesories easier. That is my opinion hope
it helps
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91 4runner TLCA# 6136
4" Pro Comp 5" Rear Costum
33'sBFG-MT 5.29's ARB Rear
Locker ARB Frt.Bumper w/Warn
Nerf Bars Flares Quick Disc.
Sway Bars Costum Tow Set Up
9000's w/Dual Control Borla
Cat Back K&N Filter Charger
550 Watts of sound.
Tom Rompies
Member Rising Sun
Denver CO
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:40:07 -0600
From: Chuck & Birgit Schladenhauffen <4RUNNER4X4@prodigy.net> Subject: OPTIMA RULES
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:34:12 -0800
From: Brandon Miller Subject: Optima Battery
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Funny, I was told just the opposite. I have left my cb on, lights, etc.
many
times and my optima is running strong. Anybody had problems with their
Optima?
Brandon
I've had a optima for three years and no problems at all. winching With
a 8000 lbs Warn. my boys leaving my light on till it was stone dead. I
jump it off and put a slow charge on and it Good as new. I WILL NEVER
OWN ANY OTHER TYPE OF BATTERY AGIAN... :) OPTIMA RULES
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Chuck & Birgit Schladenhauffen
4RUNNER4X4 85 & 88 4Runners
http://members.tripod.com/~schladenhauffen/index.html
My 4Runner Homepage
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:57:48 -0600
From: Chuck & Birgit Schladenhauffen <4RUNNER4X4@prodigy.net> Subject: OPTIMA RULES
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Chuck & Birgit Schladenhauffen wrote:>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:34:12 -0800> From: Brandon Miller > Subject: Optima Battery> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> Funny, I was told just the opposite. I have left my cb on, lights, etc.> many> times and my optima is running strong. Anybody had problems with their> Optima?> Brandon>> I've had a optima for three years and no problems at all. winching With> a 8000 lbs Warn. my boys leaving my light on till it was stone dead. I> jump it off and put a slow charge on and it Good as new. I WILL NEVER> OWN ANY OTHER TYPE OF BATTERY AGIAN... :) OPTIMA RULES> --> Chuck & Birgit Schladenhauffen> 4RUNNER4X4 85 & 88 4Runners> http://members.tripod.com/~schladenhauffen/index.html> My 4Runner Homepage
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:24:10 -0800
From: Kevin Valentine Subject: steering & ignition problems
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I've asked this question before and I still have the problem of an '88
4Runner SR5 V6 Pulling to the left. It is not tire related I have 2
sets of tires mounted up always for winter and non-winter driving.
Trust me, I've eliminated a tire problem. This is a brake system
problem.
My question to the list is: (those of you working in Toyota shops please
respond)
What is the most common resolution to pull when braking hard? I've had
a lot of work done on the brakes and nothing has ever made a difference.
Basically I'm a bit confused as to what the reason could be and I'd like
to know what the no. 1 cause is.
I've driven several other toy4x4 trucks that had the same problem. I
think it must be a bit common.
Thanks in advance for any info. or comments.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:28:24 -0600
From: "Michael Rowe" Subject: steering & ignition problems
To: Ok, I don't work in a Toyota shop but if it ain't tires (quality, air psi or
alignment) or suspension it might be a sticking piston in the caliper.>My question to the list is: (those of you working in Toyota shops please>respond)>>What is the most common resolution to pull when braking hard? I've had>a lot of work done on the brakes and nothing has ever made a difference.>>Basically I'm a bit confused as to what the reason could be and I'd like>to know what the no. 1 cause is.>>I've driven several other toy4x4 trucks that had the same problem. I>think it must be a bit common.>>Thanks in advance for any info. or comments.> ------------------------------
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:56:36 EST
From: JOEMAMA135 Subject: Stuff for sale
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Would you consider selling just the TRD posi from the 7.5 ifs diff, probably
not, but I thought I might as well take a shot at it.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:17:30 EST
From: DRM033 Subject: theft.... #3
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
well, it has happened again. Sometime between midnight and 8 this morning, my
truck was broken into, and this time the head unit was ripped out. Get this:
they took out the MTX truck boxes (you know, the ones I bought last Christmas
when my last set was stolen) and set them under the truck. I assume they were
going to come back... I guess I have something to be thankful for.
They got in through the rear slider - pryed it open. So, anyone have any
suggestions to secure the slider better for the future?
By the way, the speaker boxes are now attached to the truck via eye bolts, 1/4
coated-cable, and a pad lock. It may not be perfect, but slowing them down is
the best anyone can hope for.
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David Moore DRM033@aol.com
90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
TLCA #5662
Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:15:44 -0800
From: Jason Redman Subject: theft.... #3
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
DRM033 wrote:> well, it has happened again. Sometime between midnight and 8 this> morning, my> truck was broken into, and this time the head unit was ripped out.> Get this:> they took out the MTX truck boxes (you know, the ones I bought last> Christmas> when my last set was stolen) and set them under the truck. I assume> they were> going to come back... I guess I have something to be thankful for.> They got in through the rear slider - pryed it open. So, anyone have> any> suggestions to secure the slider better for the future?>> By the way, the speaker boxes are now attached to the truck via eye> bolts, 1/4> coated-cable, and a pad lock. It may not be perfect, but slowing them> down is> the best anyone can hope for.
I've got a magnetic switch installed with my alarm on my rear slider.
It was somewhere around ten bucks. Another good thing to go for is an
electronic hood lock (around fifty), which is just a solenoid with a
cable attached to it, that is opposite and stronger than the oem hood
latch cable, so no one can get into the engine bay to rip out the alarm.
None of that would stop anyone from breaking your windows, grabbing your
stuff and running, but maybe if you slow them down enough and then scare
them too, they'd leave you alone.
Austin Marriage
yeti@inetworld.net
96 Tacoma 3.4V6 XCab, 4"Downey, 33"BFG M/T's
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:21:08 -0800
From: Ken Emanuel Subject: theft.... #3
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
DRM033 wrote:> They got in through the rear slider - pryed it open. So, anyone have any> suggestions to secure the slider better for the future?
I added two of those home window locks to each side of the sliding rear
window. They are the notched-type that sit in the rails of the window
and screw to the frame with a wing nut. I did this because the rear
window was rattling (cheap after-market slider). It takes an extra 2
seconds to open the rear window now, but I rarely open the rear window.
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Ken Emanuel Emanuel@csus.edu
'87 Xtra Cab SR5 (22R-E)
http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac75830/toystuff.htm
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:28:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Miami Beach Bum Subject: theft.... #3
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I have some nice dual air-horns connected to my alarm ... so when it goes
off... EVERYBODY hears it... Sets you apart from the regular multi-tone
sirens around. People think there's a tractor trailer nearby!
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Doug
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:03:42 -0500
From: Darren Floen Subject: theft.... #3
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Thats wierd that they left the speakers,eh?Same thing happened to me
with my toolbox.The guy who ripped off my stereo took my toolbox out and
left it by the sidewalk near a hedge.I found it when i came home and i
found him when he reached over the hedge to grab the box!The rest is a
long story and i pled self defence!
Darren(now an owner of a .45 Para Ordnance)
DRM033 wrote:>> well, it has happened again. Sometime between midnight and 8 this morning, my> truck was broken into, and this time the head unit was ripped out. Get this:> they took out the MTX truck boxes (you know, the ones I bought last Christmas> when my last set was stolen) and set them under the truck. I assume they were> going to come back... I guess I have something to be thankful for.> They got in through the rear slider - pryed it open. So, anyone have any> suggestions to secure the slider better for the future?>> By the way, the speaker boxes are now attached to the truck via eye bolts, 1/4> coated-cable, and a pad lock. It may not be perfect, but slowing them down is> the best anyone can hope for.>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------> David Moore DRM033@aol.com> 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,> 4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000> TLCA #5662> Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:36:05 EST
From: DRM033 Subject: theft.... #3 - motion sensors?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
In a message dated 98-01-12 22:17:14 EST, you write:>> None of that would stop anyone from breaking your windows, grabbing your> stuff and running, but maybe if you slow them down enough and then scare> them too, they'd leave you alone.> Does anyone make some type of affordable portable motion sensing device for
the inside of a vehicle? Just a thought, as I hate alarms for what they don't
do, but I will probably get one soon anyway.
Hope they don't come back for the speakers tonight and get the new CD player I
just had installed.....
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David Moore DRM033@aol.com
90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
TLCA #5662
Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:32:41 -0800
From: Jason Redman Subject: theft.... #3 - motion sensors?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
DRM033 wrote:> Does anyone make some type of affordable portable motion sensing> device for> the inside of a vehicle? Just a thought, as I hate alarms for what> they don't> do, but I will probably get one soon anyway.> Hope they don't come back for the speakers tonight and get the new CD> player I> just had installed.....
I've considered briefly the possibility of installing a high powered
stun gun (one of the ones with projectile electrodes) either under the
driver seat or maybe on a tripod mounted between the seats. It would be
armed/disarmed with the alarm, and I'm not sure what type of targeting
system should be used, but if one could make it work, it'd be an awesome
theft deterrent...
Austin Marriage
yeti@inetworld.net
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:40:17 -0500
From: Darren Floen Subject: theft.... #3 - motion sensors?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Jason Redman wrote:>> DRM033 wrote:>>> Does anyone make some type of affordable portable motion sensing>> device for>> the inside of a vehicle? Just a thought, as I hate alarms for what>> they don't>> do, but I will probably get one soon anyway.>> Hope they don't come back for the speakers tonight and get the new CD>> player I>> just had installed.....>> I've considered briefly the possibility of installing a high powered> stun gun (one of the ones with projectile electrodes) either under the> driver seat or maybe on a tripod mounted between the seats. It would be> armed/disarmed with the alarm, and I'm not sure what type of targeting> system should be used, but if one could make it work, it'd be an awesome> theft deterrent...>> Austin Marriage> yeti@inetworld.net
Can you say "lawsuit"?A stereo isn't worth losing the whole truck in
court,believe me.
Darren
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:24:12 EST
From: JC VR 4 Subject: Timing Chain & Removing the Head
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I know that you all say that it is not necessary to remove the head in a 22RE
(1993) when replacing the timing chain. I told this to a mechanic who
specializes in toyotas and he said if you don't remove the head then it will
leak. Is this true? I don't know too much myself about how engines work so I
was going to have someone help me with the job. What parts will I need to
replace other than the timing chain? Where other than a dealer can I go to
buy these parts?
Thanks, Joey
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:19:20 -0800
From: Jim Brink Subject: Timing Chain & Removing the Head
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
JC VR 4 wrote:> > I know that you all say that it is not necessary to remove the head in> a 22RE (1993) when replacing the timing chain. I told this to a>mechanic who specializes in toyotas and he said if you don't remove the>head then> it will leak. Is this true?
What will leak? The head gasket? The timing chain cover? Not true if you
use care and follow the manual's recomendation on where to seal the
timing cover, cylinder head, and block.> I don't know too much myself about how engines work so I> was going to have someone help me with the job. What parts will I>> need to replace other than the timing chain? Where other than a>> dealer can I go to buy these parts?
You can usually find the chain and related parts in a kit form. This kit
includes the chain, guides, tensioner, seals, and gaskets. The
aftermarket brand sold by most Toyota dealers (because the kit is quite
a bit less expensive than the piecing the parts together from Toyota) is
made by Bryco. It is a good quality kit that contains all of the needed
parts. I have heard of many auto parts stores that carry Bryco as well.
Be sure to replace the o-ring seal on the oil pump to timing cover
flange too. Odds are, if you fail to replace it, that it will leak 15
minutes after you fininsh the timing chain job.
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Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician '86 Std. Bed 22R
Manhattan Beach, CA 32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
ToyTech@off-road.com
http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:13:03 -0500
From: Stephanie Subject: Toy V6 headers
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Jared, I was reading the toy thread tree and found you have some
experience with headers
I've got a 90 Toy 4x4 SR5 with a V6. It has about 85k miles on it and is
in pretty good shape. The guy who had it before me removed the muffler
and ran dual pipes out the back. The truck is really loud. I want to
get more low end grunt out of it and thought about Downey headers. I
wanted to replace the exhaust with 2.5" stainless 16ga pipe and add a
new free flowing cat, a Borla racing muffler and route it back to the
stock location. Have you heard anything about the North West Off Road
headers they just came out with? I'm not too familiar with headers and I
want to get a quality set that won't warp or split. Also is it worth it
to have them coated as with Jet Hott Coatings to increase their live
span? I also thought about adding either a K&N filtercharger kit or a
Downey intake kit.
I would appreciate any info you could give me.
Thanx.
Roland
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:14:54 -0500
From: Stephanie Subject: Toy V6 headers
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Jared, I was reading the toy thread tree and found you have some
experience with headers
I've got a 90 Toy 4x4 SR5 with a V6. It has about 85k miles on it and is
in pretty good shape. The guy who had it before me removed the muffler
and ran dual pipes out the back. The truck is really loud. I want to
get more low end grunt out of it and thought about Downey headers. I
wanted to replace the exhaust with 2.5" stainless 16ga pipe and add a
new free flowing cat, a Borla racing muffler and route it back to the
stock location. Have you heard anything about the North West Off Road
headers they just came out with? I'm not too familiar with headers and I
want to get a quality set that won't warp or split. Also is it worth it
to have them coated as with Jet Hott Coatings to increase their live
span? I also thought about adding either a K&N filtercharger kit or a
Downey intake kit.
I would appreciate any info you could give me.
Thanx.
Roland
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:52:21 -0500
From: duaned Subject: What 2 Look For?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Hi Guys!
I looking around to acquire a 1995 T100 Xtra cab SR5 (2WD I know :-().
Is there anything I need to pay attention at in particular (besides the
normal stuff)? I know the 3.4L became available in 1995, but unsure
where or not head gaskets are an issue with this motor(as they are
w/3.0L). Other than a full set of dashboard gauges and wheels, are there
any other significant advantages of the SR5 over a DX? Any thoughts,
comments, ideas would be appreciated.
Duane
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:22:44 -0800
From: Jim Brink Subject: What 2 Look For?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
duaned wrote:>> Hi Guys!> I looking around to acquire a 1995 T100 Xtra cab SR5 (2WD I know :-().> Is there anything I need to pay attention at in particular (besides the> normal stuff)? I know the 3.4L became available in 1995, but unsure> where or not head gaskets are an issue with this motor(as they are> w/3.0L).
3.4s are under a recall status (please don't flame me personally). Most
3.4s however are still covered under the powertrain warranty.
No other problems that I can mention at the moment.
Other than a full set of dashboard gauges and wheels, are there> any other significant advantages of the SR5 over a DX? Any thoughts,> comments, ideas would be appreciated.
DX models can be found with the full gauges as they were available as an
option in a package with other items. Look for a DX with variable
intermittent wipers and tilt wheel.
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Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician '86 Std. Bed 22R
Manhattan Beach, CA 32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
ToyTech@off-road.com
http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
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