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Toy4x4 Mailing List Digest v1n649

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 Toy4x4 Digest          Sun, 11 Jan 98 12:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 649
 Today's Topics:
 4Runner for Sale (2 msgs)
 4Runner tire sizes
 gears or lockers? (2 msgs)
 Gorman Trip
 Iems for sale
 locker choice (5 msgs)
 New Gears
 single torque bar
 test
 Tires and Timing..
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:37:39 -0800
 From: Scott Hawkins  Subject: 4Runner for Sale
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Fellow Toyota 4X4 Owners,
 It saddens me to say that I will soon have to enter the miniv*n market,
 which means parting ways with my 4Runner Limited.  Here's what she's got
 on her:
 Hunter Green Metellic		Leather Interior w/ wood dash
 Rear Heat			4-wheel ABS
 Running Boards			Brush Guard w/ Hella 550's
 Bug Deflector			31" Tires on stock alloys
 Moon Roof			Hitch (Toyota)
 AM/FM/Cass/CD			Power win, locks,
 Toyota Alarm System		Gold pkg.
 Kelly BB is $26,500.  I'm asking $26,000.  It is in immaculate shape,
 never been off-road.  Oil changes every 5k using Mobil 1.  I will travel
 within reason to meet serious buyers.  I can e-mail a pic upon requst.
 Scott Hawkins
 shawkins@visuallink.com (home) 540-869-3947
 scotthawkins@attmail.com (work mids) 800-835-3996 (ask for Scott)
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:50:40 -0800
 From: Scott Hawkins  Subject: 4Runner for Sale
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Fellow Toyota 4X4 Owners,
 It saddens me to say that I will soon have to enter the miniv*n market,
 which means parting ways with my 4Runner Limited.  Here's what she's got
 on her:
 Hunter Green Metellic           Leather Interior w/ wood dash
 Rear Heat                       4-wheel ABS
 Running Boards                  Brush Guard w/ Hella 550's
 Bug Deflector                   31" Tires on stock alloys
 Moon Roof                       Hitch (Toyota)
 AM/FM/Cass/CD                   Power win, locks,
 Toyota Alarm System             Gold pkg.
 Kelly BB is $26,500.  I'm asking $26,000.  It is in immaculate shape,
 never been off-road.  Oil changes every 5k using Mobil 1.  I will travel
 within reason to meet serious buyers in the D.C. area.  I can e-mail a
 pic upon requst.
 Scott Hawkins
 shawkins@visuallink.com (home) 540-869-3947
 scotthawkins@attmail.com (work mids) 800-835-3996 (ask for Scott)
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:05:04 -0500
 From: Martin Gotch  Subject: 4Runner tire sizes
 To: Toy4x4  I would like to replace the factory street tires (P265/70R16) )on my (wif=
 e's) 96 4Runner Ltd with BFG AT P285/75R16 (on stock 16" alloys). Size wi=
 se, this is like going from the 31's to the 32's.   Has anyone tried this=
 on a 96+ 4Runner w/16" alloys?  At 10 cm wider each side of the tire and=
 about 5 cm taller it looks like there should not be a problem, but you c=
 an't tell for sure unless you try it out.  Thanks.
 Martin Gotch
 96 4Runner Ltd V6/auto, Bilstiens
 92 DxCab V6/auto BFG AT 32's,Chevy buckets & Bilstiens
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:33:39 -0500
 From: "Jason Wilsons"  Subject: gears or lockers?
 To: > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 22:09:25 -0500> From: Darren Floen > Subject: gears or lockers?> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> Just how much water did you get in your diffs?How long was it there?Are> you sure your gears are burnt?> I have had water in my diffs before too,but caught it before any damage> was done.If the water wasn't in the diff for too long,and it didn't> freeze,chances are that the gears may not be harmed too badly.I mean> that maybe you could get a few more miles out of them,until you save> enough cash to do gears and lockers at the same time.
 Yeah, I'm sure that they're burnt up because the last time that I put it in
 4wd the flange yoke on the third member broke because the gears wouldn't
 mesh anymore.  I wanted to try to get away with a few more miles like you
 said, but that wasn't going to happen.
 Jason Wilson
 '85 X-cab 33" Thornbirds, 3.5" suspension lift, and other goodies
 http://www.clemson.edu/~jgwilso
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:16:31 -0500
 From: "Jason Wilsons"  Subject: gears or lockers?
 To: > $1000 is pretty steep.  I bought gears from Downey, and had a guy set up
 both,> in the truck, and install my rear ARB for $300.  total ticket: about $800> tops.> My gears & locker sat in my room for 4 MONTHS until I could afford the> install.>> David> DRM033@aol.com
 Was that with bearings?
 Also, how much was your air locker, and where did you get it?
 Jason Wilson
 '85 x-cab, 33" Thornbirds,  3.5" suspension, and other goodies.
 http://www.clemson.edu/~jgwilso
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:27:30 -0800
 From: "Allen Jensen"  Subject: Gorman Trip
 To:  Last I heard it is on for Saturday the 17th. I'm in to.
 Allen Jensen
 http://members.home.com/aj7
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 08:15:49 -0800
 From: Gregg R Hayford  Subject: Iems for sale
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Sean,
 Haven't heard back from you so thought I'd write ya a letter on
 here incase your email isn't working again.  I'd like the Rancho sus
 lift and possibly the 4" Springs.  Email me if you get this
 Gregg
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 Gregg R Hayford (gregg20@ix.netcom.com)
 '93 Toy P/U
 22re 4 cyl.
 3" body
 33x12.50 Thornbirds
 15x10 wheels
 Http://www.geocities.com/baja/dunes/6290
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:51:02 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: locker choice
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 JASON WROTE:
 I'm still looking around for lockers and the 4x4 shop near me in SC said
 that Lock Rights wear out after a few years.  I've also heard that
 Detroits
 are a lot stronger that the Lock Rights because that replace the whole
 carrier.   But, my question is....Have any of you ever had a problem
 with
 Lock Rights.  I'm trying to figure out if I should spend the extra $$$$
 on
 a Detroit.
 Jason Wilson
 http://www.clemson.edu/~jgwilso
 '85 X-cab  33" Thornbirds, 3.5" suspension lift, and other goodies
 Jason,I think the problem of lockrights wearing out only pertains to the
 early models when they were called LA LOCKER.Everyone i've spoken to
 about lockrights seems happy with them.Lockrights also have less
 driveshaft windup than a Detroit(or so i've heard).On your web page it
 says you want 36" tires,so i would definatly go with the stronger
 detroit locker.
 Just my $0.02
 Darren
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:57:53 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: locker choice
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I have 35's and two lock rights, haven't had any problems in the last four
 years and I put them to the test...
 Darren Floen wrote:> JASON WROTE:> I'm still looking around for lockers and the 4x4 shop near me in SC said> that Lock Rights wear out after a few years.  I've also heard that> Detroits> are a lot stronger that the Lock Rights because that replace the whole> carrier.   But, my question is....Have any of you ever had a problem> with> Lock Rights.  I'm trying to figure out if I should spend the extra $$$$> on> a Detroit.>> Jason Wilson> http://www.clemson.edu/~jgwilso> '85 X-cab  33" Thornbirds, 3.5" suspension lift, and other goodies>> Jason,I think the problem of lockrights wearing out only pertains to the> early models when they were called LA LOCKER.Everyone i've spoken to> about lockrights seems happy with them.Lockrights also have less> driveshaft windup than a Detroit(or so i've heard).On your web page it> says you want 36" tires,so i would definatly go with the stronger> detroit locker.>> Just my $0.02>> Darren
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:25:00 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: locker choice
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Branden wrote:
 I have 35's and two lock rights, haven't had any problems in the last
 four
 years and I put them to the test...
 I stand mildly corrected :)
 Is it true about the driveshaft slop?Thats the only thing
 that(mildly)bothers me about my Detroit.You can feel it in the shifts.I
 heard that lockrights were a little tighter,and i almost bought one,but
 i still believe the Detroit is stronger.So if you've never broken a
 lockright with 35's my detroit should handle 44's!  :)
 Darren
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:09:25 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: locker choice
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I doubt that there is much difference in the slop, it is there regardless.
 I like my lockers but the fact that I got them both for about $400 and
 installed them myself helps.  If I had the money I'd get the detroits, no
 air lockers for me.
 Darren Floen wrote:> Branden wrote:>> I have 35's and two lock rights, haven't had any problems in the last> four> years and I put them to the test...>> I stand mildly corrected :)>> Is it true about the driveshaft slop?Thats the only thing> that(mildly)bothers me about my Detroit.You can feel it in the shifts.I> heard that lockrights were a little tighter,and i almost bought one,but> i still believe the Detroit is stronger.So if you've never broken a> lockright with 35's my detroit should handle 44's!  :)>> Darren
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:42:15 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: locker choice
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Branden wrote:
 I like my lockers but the fact that I got them both for about $400 and
 installed them myself helps.  If I had the money I'd get the detroits,
 no
 air lockers for me.
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 I agree with that.If i was low on cash i definatly would have gotten
 lockrights.They have a pretty strong following.I also like the fact that
 if you ever did break one its fairly easy to swap the stock guts back
 into the carrier,without having a truckload of spare parts on hand.
 Darren
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:09:31 -0500
 From: Sheldon Gardner  Subject: New Gears
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> From: John > Subject: New Gears> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> Well, it finally happened.  My rear pinion bearing is SHOT!  Now I need> to get the rear differential rebuilt.  Since I changed my tires to 31's> I am going to regear both diffs to 4.56.  I am looking at gear sets and> am not sure about some of the catalog prices.  Do the Downey gear sets> come with all of the necessary bearings already?  If so then, it would> seem that they are quite a bit cheaper than 4WPW.>> Basically my question is who has the best overall price for two sets of> gears and what is the parts list for the job?>> Thanks,>> John> John just my opinion, go with 4.88's instead, you might rev a bit high with 31's but
 it will set you up perfect for 33's.
 Sheldon
 sgard@flnet.com
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:41:32 -0800 (PST)
 From: rick99@jps.net (Rick Murray)
 Subject: single torque bar
 To: TOY4X4@TLCA.ORG>Those of you running the single torque bars off the top of the differential>to the horseshoe shaped x-member in front of the tank, how high is the>perch that there mounted to? is a high or low perch more effective? My rear>axle is really twisting up now w/35s/locker and want as much info before>fabricating something. thanks
 I have the one from RMOR.  I used the mounting hw that came with it.
 The 'perch' isn't very high, maybe a couple of inches at most.
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 Rick Murray                                22R motor ; 3-inch lift
 84 Toyota 4Runner SR5                    33" BFG M/Ts ; 4.88 gears
 Rancho Cordova, Ca.                   Rancho 9000's ; on-board air
 http://www.gvn.net/~rmurray/           Marlin TCase #67 ; TRD LSD
 ##################################################################
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 08:04:23 -0500
 From: Charles Brooks  Subject: test
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 test
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 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:54:49 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Tires and Timing..
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 JIM wrote:>>  Have a '94 x-cab with stock wheels and 28" tires.  Also> what are the recommendations to change the timing (belt or chain?), don't> have a manual for it yet.
 Timing Belt, 3.0L V6 Engine:  60,000 Mile belt change interval.
 Timing Chain, 2.4L I4 Engine: No recommended service interval.
 Replacement is advised after 100K miles if the chain (or related
 components are noisy or the cylinder head needs to be removed for any
 reason.
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 Jim Brink--Toyota/ASE Certified Technician             '86 Std. Bed 22R
 Manhattan Beach, CA				   32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
 ToyTech@off-road.com
 http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/jim/jim.html
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