Toy4x4 Digest          Fri,  9 Jan 98 12:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 645
 Today's Topics:
 33" Tires for sale
 4Runner rear shocks (2 msgs)
 4wd w/o Locking hubs
 ARE MY HUBS LOCKED...OR NOT?
 BFG Mud Terrain vs. Super Swamper TSL
 BFG Mud Terrain vs. Super Swamper TSL(more)
 BFG Vs SS
 Bio
 front brakes (3 msgs)
 gas smell
 Light bar (2 msgs)
 Locking hubs and on the fly 4wd (5 msgs)
 Putting in 4wd w/o locking hubs (2 msgs)
 Toe-in is wacked out
 Toe in Whacked
 TRD cam for 22RE
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 11:11:24 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: 33" Tires for sale
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Did your friend want the tires?
 Jason Redman wrote:> Chris Geiger wrote:>>> I have a set of 33 X 12.50 Cooper All Terrains for sale. They have> 35%>> ->> 40% tread remaining. One tire is 6 months old. $150 for the set.>> Shipping>> would cost a lot so I hope to find someone close by (Santa Barbara> CA)>>>>>> Keep me in mind... I have a friend that was looking for a set of used> 33"s.  I don't know if he found some or if he'll want these, but I'll> ask tomorrow and get back to you.  BTW, I'm in San Diego, so shipping> would be a non-issue.>> Austin Marriage> yeti@inetworld.net> 96 Tacoma XCab V6, 4"Downey, 33"BFG M/T's
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 09:11:19 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: 4Runner rear shocks
 To: Toyota 4x4 List  Kenneth Fong  wrote:>Just got the Downey 1.5" rear coils (#48231-R90)>for my truck.>It calls for Rancho #5179 or Doetsch-Tech #8250>shocks.>I want to try KYBs.>Does anyone have the cross-reference equivilent to>KYBs or other brands?>I don't want to be limited to those two.
 I installed the stock spring rate 1.5" coils on our 4Runner.
 Since we only use it for mild wheeling and I wanted to
 maintain near stock ride in the rear, I choose to use
 a "non-off-road" shock. I bought some Gabriel (I think)
 SUV shocks from the local auto parts. These are gas valved
 and provide firm but not stiff dampening. I could have also
 used the next step up (truck shocks) for firmer compression
 dampening.
 I had made measurements and searched the application book
 until I found the shock I wanted with the correct dimensions.
 I think it turned out to be shocks for an Isuzu Trooper.  These
 shocks were about $18 as I recall.
 I was unable to find a shock with the correct size lower bushing,
 so for $3 I bought a pair of Energy poly bushings with the larger
 size hole.
 They work great and ride is very near stock.
 Jay Kopycinski       '85 Toylet   (ROKTOY)
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 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:03:33 -0800
 From: "Roger Brown P.E."  Subject: 4Runner rear shocks
 To: stealth@sfsu.edu
 Chris Geiger mentioned the need for re-drilling the shock mounting hole to
 3/4".  I'm in the south bay and happen to have a 3/4" drill bit that I needed
 to install my front bumper (and even a 1/2" drill to turn it).  If you need to
 borrow it, you are welcome to it.
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 Roger Brown, P.E.        mailto:rogerb@sgi.com
 +1.650.933.1898 (vmail)  +1.650.932.1898 (fax)
 http://reality.sgi.com/rogerb/
 Check out the SGI EuroDev Forum: http://www-devprg.sgi.de/Forum98/
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 15:56:40 -0500
 From: Mojo  Subject: 4wd w/o Locking hubs
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:46:56 EST> From: JC VR 4 > Subject: Putting in 4wd w/o locking hubs> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> Will any damage occur if the 4wd lever is engaged with out the front hubs> (manual) locked?>> Drove 35 miles at 65+ onc3e with the 4 wheel lever locked in, DUh.....
 Blew thr front pinion seal and caused the pinion nut to back off making it loose.
 I replaced the seal and tightend everything up so far it's been okay although the pattern on the ring gear
 feels off to me, kind of loose.
 No bigge with the front R&P it only needs to spin at slower speeds anyways.
 Sheldon
 sgard@flnet.com
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 09:03:55 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: ARE MY HUBS LOCKED...OR NOT?
 To: Toyota 4x4 List  breeze@cysource.com (Jeffrey Delzer) wrote:>Considering the high cost, time and effort involved versus the miniscule>benefit gained, I'm amazed at the number of people who've said that>they've changed from ADD to manuals. For the way I use my truck, ADD>hubs are worth their weight in gold.
 Actually the cost was $25 for a set of stock junk yard hubs, plus about
 $3 for all new bolts and washers. Total time spent was about two hours
 including disassembly, cleaning, painting, and reassembly.
 I now have the choice of freewheeling the front tires or locking them to
 the axles. Unlocking the hubs saves a bit of gas, but more importantly
 saves wear and tear on the front suspension and driveline. With the
 CVs stopped, boot wear is reduced significantly......and if you've ever
 pulled one of those #&!^#$^% driveaxles out, you know it's a pain.
 Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)   ADD on her '91 4Runner
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 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:22:04 -0500
 From: "NUNES, ROB"  Subject: BFG Mud Terrain vs. Super Swamper TSL
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  F.Y.I.
 The 32-9.5-15 Radial Swampers are a little bit tall than 33-12.50-15 BFG
 AT. I did a side-by-side comparison that proved this. I am not sure
 about the 9.5 wide BFG height though.
 The 32-9.5-15 Radial Swampers have no sound to them on the highway and
 they look awesome to boot.
 You can not go wrong with either choice.> ----------> From:> stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov[SMTP:stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov]> Reply To: 	Toy4x4@tlca.org> Sent: 	Thursday, January 08, 1998 5:20 PM> To: 	Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: 	BFG Mud Terrain vs. Super Swamper TSL>> Thanks for all the responses on the BFG(31x10.5 vs. 33x9.5) MT for a> 84> 4Runner question.  It sounds like with only 2" of lift the 33s would> be a> tight fit and with 4.88:1 gearing 33" is a little taller than I want> to go> with the 22R.  The Super Swamper TSL comes in a 32X9.5-15 I think this> Size> would work fine, so the question is: How does the Super Swamper TSL> compare> with the BFG Mud Terrain both off road and as a daily driver?  I'm> familiar> with the BFG as that is what I have been using (31x10.5-15 MT) Anyone> have> experience with both or just the Super Swampers?  Thanks much> Stuart>>> ******************************> * stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov *> * Stuart Banks               *> * 84 4Runner  230 K miles    *> * 78 Celica   195 K miles    *> * 89 MR2      115 K miles    *> ******************************>> ------------------------------
 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:03:42 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: BFG Mud Terrain vs. Super Swamper TSL(more)
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 In a message dated 98-01-09 10:43:58 EST, you write:> F.Y.I.>  The 32-9.5-15 Radial Swampers are a little bit tall than 33-12.50-15 BFG>  AT. I did a side-by-side comparison that proved this. I am not sure>  about the 9.5 wide BFG height though.>>  The 32-9.5-15 Radial Swampers have no sound to them on the highway and>  they look awesome to boot.
 I think you mean the 32x10.5R15 radial swampers.  The 9.5 swampers are bias
 ply tires.  I have the 33x12.5R15 SS radials, and they are pretty quiet
 considering.  They do seem narrow on the truck though.  A friend had the
 32x9.5R15 bias ply's on a Jeep Cherokee, and they are great off road, but they
 are loud and are a rough ride.  I think a heavier truck would make it easier
 to keep them under control.
 The radial tires, at least the 33's, are less aggressive than the bias ply
 swampers.  They are more like buckshot radials on steroids.  I think both the
 33x12.5 and 34x9.5 bias ply's measure out to 33.8 inches.  I will probably go
 with one of these next time around.
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 David Moore                       DRM033@aol.com
 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
 4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 15:51:02 -0500
 From: Mojo  Subject: BFG Vs SS
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:20:38 -0400> From: stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov (Stuart Banks)> Subject: BFG Mud Terrain vs. Super Swamper TSL> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> Thanks for all the responses on the BFG(31x10.5 vs. 33x9.5) MT for a 84> 4Runner question.  It sounds like with only 2" of lift the 33s would be a> tight fit and with 4.88:1 gearing 33" is a little taller than I want to go> with the 22R.  The Super Swamper TSL comes in a 32X9.5-15 I think this Size> would work fine, so the question is: How does the Super Swamper TSL compare> with the BFG Mud Terrain both off road and as a daily driver?  I'm familiar> with the BFG as that is what I have been using (31x10.5-15 MT) Anyone have> experience with both or just the Super Swampers?  Thanks much> Stuart>> ******************************> * stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov *> * Stuart Banks               *> * 84 4Runner  230 K miles    *> * 78 Celica   195 K miles    *> * 89 MR2      115 K miles    *> ******************************
 I never had BFG MT but I am now running 33x12.50 swamper "raidials" and can tell you that I love em and will
 probably go out and buy a new set when these run out.
 I have never had any sort of flatspoting that I could feel with them and they ride fantastic down the highway.
 The lugs are a bit tighter together than the bias ply SS which gives em a narrower apperance. I was little
 bummed out about that when I first got em but after hitting a few puddles at speed I can tell you I'm happy
 with em just the way they are. I have had Bias ply SS and can tell you the raidials are like night and day
 compared to the bias. The Bias were always out of balance made the truck wander all over the place and lasted
 about 20,000 miles.
 btw I run them on 15x10 wheels so far about 8000 miles and they still look good, heck they even still have the
 tits on the side. (will some at least:)
 Sheldon
 sgard@flnet.com
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 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:47:34 -0700
 From: "Mark Nelson"  Subject: Bio
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org> Date:          Wed, 7 Jan 1998 05:31:38 -1000> To:            mnelson@smaug.devry.ca> From:          Toy4x4-Request> Reply-to:      Toy4x4 > Subject:       Bio> Personal Bio Info>> POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name: Mark Nelson>> City & State: Calgary, Alberta>> Country: Canada>> E-mail address: mnelson@smaug.devry.ca>> Toyota (s) year & model: 85 4X4>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): NO>> Age: 24>> Occupation: Electronic Engineer>> Marital Status: Single?? sort of>> Hobbies: Off-road, Drag racing my 69 Cougar, bodybuilding, computers>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Surfing the net>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:>>  3" Rancho lift, 31" Bfg Mud Terrains, 9000S Superwinch
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 08:39 -0500 (EST)
 From: JC Nordyke  Subject: front brakes
 To: Toy4x4  You're close, it's 52mm.
 JC Nordyke  KC0BKC
 TLCA #2921
 jc.nordyke@mci.com
 '88 4Runner  '72 FJ40 project
 Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA>Brandon Miller wrote:>>32mm seems to ring a bell..
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 13:27:38 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: front brakes
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 front brakes
 Date:
 Fri, 09 Jan 1998 08:39 -0500 (EST)
 From:
 JC Nordyke  Reply-To:
 Toy4x4@tlca.org
 To:
 Toy4x4@tlca.org
 You're close, it's 52mm.
 JC Nordyke  KC0BKC
 TLCA #2921
 jc.nordyke@mci.com
 '88 4Runner  '72 FJ40 project
 Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA>Brandon Miller wrote:>>32mm seems to ring a bell..
 I seem to remember 55mm from when i made my own socket(solid axle).I got
 this measurement by measuring the nuts with my dial caliper.Who's right
 or what size is it?
 Darren
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 13:53:19 -0500
 From: Charles Brooks  Subject: front brakes
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Darren Floen wrote:>   You're close, it's 52mm.>>>>32mm seems to ring a bell..>> I seem to remember 55mm from when i made my own socket(solid axle).I got> this measurement by measuring the nuts with my dial caliper.Who's right> or what size is it?
 I just use a couple of thermostats bent to the proper size and held
 together with liquid nails! Attach the Hi-Lift jack and...
 OOoopps! Time for my medication again.  LMAO!
 Charles Brooks
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 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:29:33 -0600
 From: pmadden@sulzerorthousa.com (Paul Madden)
 Subject: gas smell
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Hi all,
 Latley I've smelled gas from inside the cab of my 4runner. it's
 especially pungent(but not over-whelming) on start-up in the morning.
 Just wandering if this may be a leaking fuel injector or something
 along these lines. Any ideas?
 Thanks in advance for all replys.
 Paul Madden
 '85 4Runner EFI, 193,000mi
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 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:03:02 -0500
 From: "T. Christopher Dunn"  Subject: Light bar
 To:  I have an 89 4Runner and I want to add a light bar.  What are my options
 and prices.  I am looking for something that can be mounted with out a load
 of drilling to the truck?  Is this possible?
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 09:59:12 -0500
 From: Bob Bascom  Subject: Light bar
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 T. Christopher Dunn wrote:>> I have an 89 4Runner and I want to add a light bar.  What are my options> and prices.  I am looking for something that can be mounted with out a load> of drilling to the truck?  Is this possible?
 The KC light bar mounts to the rain gutters without any driling. You
 should be careful if you are gonna be driving in thick trees though. I
 hit mine on a low branch and it put two dents in the body above the
 doors. I have a slightly used on now if ya want it cheap.
 Ryan Bascom
 '87 4runner
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 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:32:05 -2359
 From: s0baker@usuhsb.usuhs.mil
 Subject: Locking hubs and on the fly 4wd
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 After Midas charged me a small fortune and ruined my automatic locking
 hubs on my 87 Runner I switch to Warn premium just because they were
 cheaper than getting new toyota auto-locking hubs.  Anyways, I read somewhere
 that if you lock in manual hubs you can then shift on the fly.  Assuming
 Has anyone done this with a first generation 4 runner? Did it work?
 Will it cause premature wear if I make a habit out of doing it?  Thanks.
 Oh yeah, never go to midas, they suck.  I didn't do any work on my car
 until they screwed me over so bad.  Now I do everything.  I have done
 my own timing chain and just finished my clutch.  I know y'all have
 done lots more, but I'm just startin.
 ]
 Bakes
 87 4Runner
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 08:54:10 -0500
 From: Ed Ruf  Subject: Locking hubs and on the fly 4wd
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 08:32 AM 1/9/98 -2359, s0baker@usuhsb.usuhs.mil illustriously expounded:>After Midas charged me a small fortune and ruined my automatic locking>hubs on my 87 Runner I switch to Warn premium just because they were>cheaper than getting new toyota auto-locking hubs.  Anyways, I read somewhere>that if you lock in manual hubs you can then shift on the fly.  Assuming
 I believe that discussion was in regard to ADD systems with replacement
 lcoking hubs. As far as your '87 goes, no you can't shift on the fly per
 se. You can shift into 4H while moving slowly in first gear while coasting
 at the time.
 Ed Ruf(egruf@visi.net)&(logo: http://users.visi.net/~egruf/toy4x4)
 '86 Xtracab SR5 4x4 PU @ 130K with Rancho 3.5" s.lift+31x10.5+K&N
 '87 4Runner SR5 Wagon  @ 117K with KYB GasSprings+30x9.50
 '86 Yamaha FJ1200SC @ 17K & '82 Honda XL600R Thunderin' Thumper
 2.8 yr old 100# wGSD(Kaiser Klaus III) http://users.visi.net/~egruf
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 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:05:25 -0500 (EST)
 From: "Dr. Karl Bellve"  Subject: Locking hubs and on the fly 4wd
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Ed Ruf wrote:> At 08:32 AM 1/9/98 -2359, s0baker@usuhsb.usuhs.mil illustriously expounded:>>After Midas charged me a small fortune and ruined my automatic locking>>hubs on my 87 Runner I switch to Warn premium just because they were>>cheaper than getting new toyota auto-locking hubs.  Anyways, I read somewhere>>that if you lock in manual hubs you can then shift on the fly.  Assuming>> I believe that discussion was in regard to ADD systems with replacement> lcoking hubs. As far as your '87 goes, no you can't shift on the fly per> se. You can shift into 4H while moving slowly in first gear while coasting> at the time.>> Why can't he shift on the fly if his hubs are locked? I have switched into
 4x4 Hi at highway speeds with my hubs locked. (1985 4Runner SR5) If he had
 automatice hubs, then he couldn't but he switched to manual hubs.
 Cheers,
 Karl Bellve, Ph.D.
 Biomedical Imaging Group
 University of Massachusetts
 WWW  : http://molmed.ummed.edu/~kdb/
 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-3785
 Fax  : (508) 856-1840
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 08:59:02 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Locking hubs and on the fly 4wd
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Ed Ruf wrote:>> At 08:32 AM 1/9/98 -2359, s0baker@usuhsb.usuhs.mil illustriously expounded:>>After Midas charged me a small fortune and ruined my automatic locking>>hubs on my 87 Runner I switch to Warn premium just because they were>>cheaper than getting new toyota auto-locking hubs.  Anyways, I read somewhere>>that if you lock in manual hubs you can then shift on the fly.  Assuming>> I believe that discussion was in regard to ADD systems with replacement> lcoking hubs. As far as your '87 goes, no you can't shift on the fly per> se. You can shift into 4H while moving slowly in first gear while coasting> at the time.
 Nope.  If you've have a PRE-ADD truck, and have replaced your auto hubs
 with manual...you DO have shift-on-the-fly capability.  (of course your
 hubs must be locked to do it)  I've done this to my own 4Runner.  Of
 course I'd recommend trying it at maybe 5-10 mph the first time...I'd
 hate to be wrong and cost you money. :-)  The pre-ADD trucks with auto
 hubs couldn't even go into 4WD at 2mph with out some grinding...but
 since my switch to manual hubs I've go into 4WD at 40mph  (I haven't had
 the need to do it on the freeway, but it'll be OK at any speed).
 Scott
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 13:37:54 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Locking hubs and on the fly 4wd
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Scott wrote:
 since my switch to manual hubs I've go into 4WD at 40mph  (I haven't had
 the need to do it on the freeway, but it'll be OK at any speed).
 Scott
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 /_/_|_\__      Scott Wilson
 | _     _ :     Santa Clara, CA
 */_\---/_\'     http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
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 I too do this all the time when i'm plowing snow with my truck.Its too
 much hassle to get out and lock the hubs all the time.As long as the
 hubs are locked and the rear tires aren't spinning faster than the front
 tires,there should be no grinding.You will notice a signifigant loss in
 gas mileage though,running with locked hubs.By the way,i have a truetrac
 in the front and with the hubs locked in 2hi i can barely notice that
 its there.
 Darren
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 09:08 -0500 (EST)
 From: JC Nordyke  Subject: Putting in 4wd w/o locking hubs
 To: Toy4x4  Chris & JC;
 If you put a Marlin Dual T-case in your truck, you will have 2wd low,
 with or without the hubs locked. With the hubs locked, you have 2wd
 low with shift-on-the-fly to 4wd low. Kinda pricey if all you want
 it for is just 2wd low, but when you factor in that you also get an
 84:1 low-low range. That makes that 22R crawl right up there with a
 Land Cruiser with a 350/NV4500 in it. Anyone who has a Marlin can attest
 to this. Great contraption.
 \
 \          |
 Transmission   L  N  H  4L N|  4H    Rear Driveshaft
 2H  4H
 This is 2wd low.
 JC Nordyke  KC0BKC
 TLCA #2921
 jc.nordyke@mci.com
 '88 4Runner  '72 FJ40 project
 Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA>Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 09:01:28 -0800>From: Chris Geiger >Subject: Putting in 4wd w/o locking hubs>To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> It's easier to drive up slow in low range and I don't want 4WD on> pavement. I wish there was a way of getting the xfercase to do 2WD> low range like the Jeeps and Sammys. Last year a friend of mine in> a Sammy  drove most of the way (through the Rubicon) in 2WD and slipped> it into 4WD on just the difficult parts, he had troubles steering> with a front locker in 4WD without power steering.>Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
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 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:12:41 -0800
 From: "Roger Brown P.E."  Subject: Putting in 4wd w/o locking hubs
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Chris Geiger wrote:>> I am sure it's ok for short distance but I would not drive down the freeway
 like that. I have driven like that for quickly getting up a steep driveway
 where I do some work. It's easier to drive up slow in low range and I don't
 want 4WD on pavement. I wish there was a way of getting the xfercase to do
 2WD low range like the Jeeps and Sammys.
 < Subject: Toe-in is wacked out
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  Not to sound like a wise ass, but if I was you, I would try a different
 front end shop to do the alignment.> ----------> From: 	Todd and Terry Steele[SMTP:tntsteel@lemoorenet.com]> Reply To: 	Toy4x4@tlca.org> Sent: 	Thursday, January 08, 1998 12:13 AM> To: 	Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: 	Toe-in is wacked out>> I've got a problem and I'm noy sure what is causing it.  I run 30-11.5> Swampers on my 87 IFS truck.  I had the alignment done in May, Sept,> Nov and> it needs to be done again.  What happened in Sept and Nov is when I> put my> truck in 4WD, the toe-in went out of whack.  We went on a snow run the> weekend before XMAS and last Friday my toe-in went out of whack.  It's> not> gradual, it happens immediately.  I have replaced the adjusting> sleeves, tie> rods are in good shape.  Any ideas??>> Todd> His:  87 Toyota 4X4, Marlin Tcase #180, EZ Lockers F/R, Custom rear> bumper> and nerfs, Ramsey F bumper, Trailmaster/Superlift 4", 30-11.50-15 TSL> SX's> on AR Type 23 15X8.  Custom Body by Sierra Nevada.>> ------------------------------
 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:48:28 -0800
 From: "Gerald Juiliano"  Subject: Toe in Whacked
 To: "Toyota List" >>>>>>>>I've got a problem and I'm not sure what is causing it.  I run
 30-11.5
 Swampers on my 87 IFS truck.  I had the alignment done in May, Sept, Nov and
 it needs to be done again.  What happened in Sept and Nov is when I put my
 truck in 4WD, the toe-in went out of whack.  We went on a snow run the
 weekend before XMAS and last Friday my toe-in went out of whack.  It's not
 gradual, it happens immediately.  I have replaced the adjusting sleeves, tie
 rods are in good shape.  Any ideas??>>>>>>>> I've got the same problem with my '90 Toy truck.  I think I am working on my
 sixth time in recent months of having it aligned...
 1.  Rotate your tires.  Might make a little difference.
 2.  Did you crank up or replace your torsion bars?  If you exceed a certain
 height, I think if it's over 15" from the top of the rim to the bottom of
 the fender well (I have Downey torsions on a stock truck), then you will NOT
 be able to fully align it.  I can't get the darn things to settle.
 3.  Idler arm makes a difference.  Check for looseness near the links.  If
 it rattles, replace it.
 4.  Check to see if the spindle is bent or loose.  You will need to take
 apart the whole assembly to get to them, so unless you plan doing the
 bearing (repack or replace), you might want to wait.
 Let me know if you find anything that might help me in the future.  I'm
 STILL trying to get my truck to drive straight...
 JR Juiliano
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 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 98 12:38:59 -0600
 From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
 Subject: TRD cam for 22RE
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, DRM033  wrote:>>  What are the specs of the cam?  I had one of their old 22R (not e) cams
>here it is.  wanna explain later if it is worth it?
<><>> Cam Grind	Int Dur		Exh Dur		Int Lift	Exh lift
 Stock 22R	 272		 248		 10.1		  9.7
 NWOR 0-4500	 250		 260		 10.5		 10.5
 NWOR 2-6000	 260		 270		 11.2		 10.5
 NWOR 35-7500	 270		 280		 11.5		 11.5
 stock 22RE	 248		 280		 10.0		  9.7
 TRD 0-4800	 262		 272		 10.5		 10.9
 TRD 1600-5200	 272		 282		 10.9		 11.3
 NWOR 0-4500	 250		 260		 10.8		 11.1
 NWOR 25-6500	 278		 278		 11.4		 11.4
 NWOR Turbo 0-48k 250		 260		 10.9		 11.2
 There's the Cams in a quick look....
 I'd have to say the TRD 0-4800 ones 'look' better on paper, and will probably
 idle better than the NWOR cams.  They should give a nice increase in low-end
 (around 2000-3000 rpm).  For 'hotter' cams 278 on the intake is a bit long,
 the TRD one should have a 'fair' idle and pull real good once the engine gets
 up to revs - this would probably do well on a properly geared truck on the
 highway - the smaller cam would be good for those needing to compensate for
 bigger tires & wrong gears.
 My $.02 worth,
 - - Brian
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