Toy4x4 Digest          Thu,  8 Jan 98 00:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 642
 Today's Topics:
 3.4L Headers
 3.4L  Turbo charger
 [Fwd: add a leafs]
 [Fwd: None] (4 msgs)
 Bio (4 msgs)
 Bio -  C. Simmons
 Cable locker
 Engine Dyeing
 hi-lift (2 msgs)
 Hi Lift uses (3 msgs)
 List Member's Ride's page updated. (3 msgs)
 New tires! Hold me back! (4 msgs)
 Personal Bio
 RADIATOR
 Stuff for sale
 Supra Engine Availability
 Tires BFG (31X10.5 VS. 33x9.5) MT
 Toy4x4 Digest V1 #634
 Toyota Discount???? (5 msgs)
 TRD cam for 22RE
 What basic accesories are needed to use a HiLift as a winch ?? (3 msgs)
 Whining T-Case
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 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:21:42 -0600
 From: Robert Koss  Subject: 3.4L Headers
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  Hi - has anyone had any experience installing Eldebrock's 3.4L header on a
 Tacoma?   I've heard a few good things about them but wanted more opinions
 of any and all performance /mileage increases/decreases.
 Thanks,
 Robert
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:44:57 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: 3.4L  Turbo charger
 To: Toy 4x4 List  For you guys impatiently awaiting the arrival of the 3.4L TRD turbo
 charger...there a good picture of it at
 http://www.toyotaworld.com/trd/pg35.htm
 The MR2 below it doesn't look half bad either.  ;-b
 Scott
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 /_/_|_\__       Scott Wilson TLCA #5261  CA4WDC #13393
 | _     _ :     88 4Runner SR5 V6
 */_\---/_\'     Santa Clara, CA
 (_)   (_)      http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 22:42:17 -0500
 From: Kevin Watters  Subject: [Fwd: add a leafs]
 To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org"  Jesjr777 wrote:> Thanks for responding Kevin, I was wondering about that clamp. How do you like> the Rancho add a leaf? How much was it? How much lift did it give? I decided> on the Downey one because it had the same anti-friction pads as the stockers> and I have always liked their products. I once had a Rancho add a leaf in a> 1987 4wd Toy and it rode terrible so I took it out. A few years down the road> I bought a 88 runner and it had the classic rear end sag. I still had the leaf> lying around from the pickup so  I threw it in and the ride was exelent,> probally because of the extra weight. I do not think that was a softride leaf> though, I didnt even know they had different ones.
 They do sell soft ride and regular add a leafs now, regulars are stiff.  I
 installed the whole kit at first and gained almost 3 1/2" of lift in the rear,
 more than I wanted. I then (according to instructions) removed the factory 3rd
 leaf and my lift dropped to 2" , which was what I was looking for.  Excellent
 ride, (with Rancho RS9000's)
 better articulation than stock, and my butt wasn't dragging when I tow my boat or
 haul firewood in the bed. Cost was about $120 local with tax, and with 32x11.50's
 I am able to stuff the tires all the way into the fender well with no rubbing. (no
 I didn't drop my bumpstops)
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 22:54:27 -0500
 From: Kevin Watters  Subject: [Fwd: None]
 To: toy4x4  Stan Moskal wrote:> Hi, I am asking this question for my buddy who doesn't have computer> access. He has a 1990 Toyota 4x4 pickup truck with a short bed. He> wants to know the best,easiest and least expensive way to lift the> vehicle to accomodate 35x12.5x15 BFG Radial A/T tires with 15x 10> rims. We have determined that he needs at least 5" of lift. He has already> body lifted it 3". Please RTP or post as I have subscribed to your list for> him.>                                                                 Stan
 Cheapest way?  Start cutting!  (fender wells that is)
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 08:42:01 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: [Fwd: None]
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>  wants to know the best,easiest and least expensive way to lift the>> vehicle to accomodate 35x12.5x15 BFG Radial A/T tires with 15x 10>> rims. We have determined that he needs at least 5" of lift. He has already>> body lifted it 3". Please RTP or post as I have subscribed to your list for>>  Cheapest way?  Start cutting!  (fender wells that is)
 The second cheapest is to add large blocks under the bumpstops to limitupward
 travel. Is this guy planning to put something in the diffs or is he making
 a show truck (like everybody else these days). If he is looking for off-road
 performance the first step is to put a locker into the rear diff. Then if there
 is
 money go for the lift and tires. A locker will do more for offroad traction.
 You can fit 33" tires on it with a 3" body lift. Has he thought about changing
 the gears? 35" tires will put the gearing way to high, forget about ever using
 5th gear and it will be hard to start out in 1st, lots of clutch slipping to get
 started. To put 35" tires on (and be able to use it offroad) your are going to
 need a 4" lift along with the body lift.
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 22:13:19 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: [Fwd: None]
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I've got 35's and let me say there is no cheap way and there is no easy way, new
 things will wear out and the problems are endless.  If he is looking for cheap and
 easy forget it but if he wants to put in the time and patience 35's can do
 miraculous things ;)
 Chris Geiger wrote:>>  wants to know the best,easiest and least expensive way to lift the>>> vehicle to accomodate 35x12.5x15 BFG Radial A/T tires with 15x 10>>> rims. We have determined that he needs at least 5" of lift. He has already>>> body lifted it 3". Please RTP or post as I have subscribed to your list for>>>>  Cheapest way?  Start cutting!  (fender wells that is)>> The second cheapest is to add large blocks under the bumpstops to limitupward> travel. Is this guy planning to put something in the diffs or is he making> a show truck (like everybody else these days). If he is looking for off-road> performance the first step is to put a locker into the rear diff. Then if there> is> money go for the lift and tires. A locker will do more for offroad traction.> You can fit 33" tires on it with a 3" body lift. Has he thought about changing> the gears? 35" tires will put the gearing way to high, forget about ever using> 5th gear and it will be hard to start out in 1st, lots of clutch slipping to get> started. To put 35" tires on (and be able to use it offroad) your are going to> need a 4" lift along with the body lift.>> Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
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 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 00:26:33 -0600
 From: breeze@cysource.com (Jeffrey Delzer)
 Subject: [Fwd: None]
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Just in case he's willing to give up the idea of building a show truck,
 (is that what the 35's are for??), he could always go with 31's, which
 fit much better and generally don't require expensive gearing changes,
 etc, etc... Relatively cheap and easy, just like the man wanted.
 Jeff Delzer
 Brandon Miller wrote:>> I've got 35's and let me say there is no cheap way and there is no easy way, new> things will wear out and the problems are endless.  If he is looking for cheap and> easy forget it but if he wants to put in the time and patience 35's can do> miraculous things ;)>> Chris Geiger wrote:>>>>  wants to know the best,easiest and least expensive way to lift the>>>> vehicle to accomodate 35x12.5x15 BFG Radial A/T tires with 15x 10>>>> rims. We have determined that he needs at least 5" of lift. He has already>>>> body lifted it 3". Please RTP or post as I have subscribed to your list for>>>>>>  Cheapest way?  Start cutting!  (fender wells that is)>>>> The second cheapest is to add large blocks under the bumpstops to limitupward>> travel. Is this guy planning to put something in the diffs or is he making>> a show truck (like everybody else these days). If he is looking for off-road>> performance the first step is to put a locker into the rear diff. Then if there>> is>> money go for the lift and tires. A locker will do more for offroad traction.>> You can fit 33" tires on it with a 3" body lift. Has he thought about changing>> the gears? 35" tires will put the gearing way to high, forget about ever using>> 5th gear and it will be hard to start out in 1st, lots of clutch slipping to get>> started. To put 35" tires on (and be able to use it offroad) your are going to>> need a 4" lift along with the body lift.>>>> Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 19:59:15 -0700
 From: Herman Snodgrass  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4  At 05:31 AM 1/7/98 -1000, you wrote:>Personal Bio Info>>POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>Name:Herman Snodgrass>>City & State:Provo, Utah/ San Diego, California>>Country:USA>>E-mail address:Vassago@isp.homestar.net>>Toyota (s) year & model: 1986 X-tra cab>>Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):N>>Age:19>>Occupation:Student>>Marital Status:Single>>Hobbies:Most things outdoors>>How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:off-road.com>>General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:It's a stocker with '31 tires.>>> ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:47:23 -0800
 From: "Ryan Comber"  Subject: Bio
 To: "Toy4x4 List"  Personal Bio Info
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name:  Ryan Comber
 City & State: Burnaby, BC
 Country:  Canada
 E-mail address:  rcomber@uniserve.com
 Toyota (s) year & model:  1989 Extra Cab SR5 4x4 Pickup
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): Not yet
 Age:  23
 Occupation:  Computer Tech.
 Marital Status:  Married
 Hobbies:  Computers.  My truck of course.
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:  Originally joined
 way back when it first started.  Took a small break for a while.
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:  My dad bought the truck when
 it was brand new and I've wanted it since then.  It was actually the first
 vehicle I ever drove on the road.  I finally got it about a month ago.  It's
 got the V6,  4.56 gears, factory 31's, 5 spd. tranny & sunroof.  It's
 basically stock right now,  but I haven't even started yet.
 ==============================================
 Ryan Comber                                         1989 Xtra Cab 4x4
 rcomber@uniserve.com
 http://users.uniserve.com/~rcomber
 When you come to a fork in the road,  GO STRAIGHT!
 ==============================================
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 23:02:35 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Ryan Comber wrote:>> Personal Bio Info>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name:  Ryan Comber>> Toyota (s) year & model:  1989 Extra Cab SR5 4x4 Pickup>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:  My dad bought the truck when> it was brand new and I've wanted it since then.  It was actually the first> vehicle I ever drove on the road.  I finally got it about a month ago.  It's> got the V6,  4.56 gears, factory 31's, 5 spd. tranny & sunroof.  It's> basically stock right now,  but I haven't even started yet.
 Hey Ryan!  Good to see you again!  How's like been treating you?  Good I
 hope, I see you've got a new truck...change your mind on the 4Runner?
 Things haven't changed much with me...still in school.  I'll be an old,
 dying man before I graduate. :-)  My 'Runner is doing good except its
 costing me a large fortune this month.  I just had the tranny rebuilt
 when the engine starts making a bad noise.   I ended up having Toy
 replace my head gasket, but I'm gonna pay them an additional $1500 to do
 a complete rebuild of the engine.  So...I'll be very VERY poor for
 awhile, but the truck should just purrrr along.  (It BETTER just purrrr
 along!)
 Back to the HTML...I'm trying to get a new page up for Off-Road.Com
 before bed...  You can see the new Product Review section I created, and
 this new page (Torsion Bar page), by going to the main Toy page at
 Off-Road.com and the new pages will be the 1st two listed under "Hot
 Topics"
 'Night,
 Scott
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 /_/_|_\__      Scott Wilson
 | _     _ :     Santa Clara, CA
 */_\---/_\'     http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
 (_)   (_)
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 23:08:51 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Scott Wilson wrote:>   Good to see you again!  How's like been treating you? ....
 Darnit! That wasn't supposed to go to the list!  Sorry guys.
 Scott
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 /_/_|_\__      Scott Wilson
 | _     _ :     Santa Clara, CA
 */_\---/_\'     http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
 (_)   (_)
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 17:32:54 -0800
 From: "Charles R. Simmons III"  Subject: Bio -  C. Simmons
 To: Toy4x4  Toy4x4-Request wrote:>> Personal Bio Info>> POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name:Chuck Simmons>> City & State:Nicholls Ga>> Country:USA>> E-mail address:crsimmon@almatel.net>> Toyota (s) year & model:80 long bed 4x4>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):n>> Age:50 plus>> Occupation: Supervisor, Dutch Quality House(Continental Grain)>> Marital Status:m>> Hobbies:four wheeling, auto restoration, hunting, camping, shooting>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:browsing, shear luck.>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: Just bought it for restoration and 4 wheeling. It was a mess.  About ready for paint now.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:45:08 -0800
 From: "wg"  Subject: Cable locker
 To:  Hi Scott!
 As far as I know the cable locker is only
 available for Landcruisers not the pickups.
 Wil
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 17:15:11 -0800
 From: David Fritzsche  Subject: Engine Dyeing
 To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org"  I have a 1990 V-6, when I am going down the freeway the engine will quit
 and then it will start again. The "check engine light" does not come on,
 all of the gages are still working. It feels like it runs out of gas. It
 does not do it all of the time and I am not getting any codes when I
 check. I have been told that it could be the EFI relay, or the module in
 the distributor, or the fuel filter. Any Ideas.
 Thank you
 David Fritzsche
 1990 V-6 Ex-Cab
 4:88 gears, Tru-Trak front, ARB rear
 Pro-Comp II lift, 4" NWOR springs rear
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:56:40 -0600
 From: "Steve C."  Subject: hi-lift
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Scott Wilson wrote:> (I'm a poor man).   For awhile we> were using mine as a aluminum can crusher at my house.  :-)>> Scott> MR I get all this work done on my truck is a poor man.
 Come on Scott who ya tryin to kid. You are cheap not poor ;)
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 Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
 capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
 Houston, Texas			Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 Edelbrock headers
 NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 17:37:19 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: hi-lift
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Steve C. wrote:> MR I get all this work done on my truck is a poor man.> Come on Scott who ya tryin to kid. You are cheap not poor ;)
 Ha ha!  :-)   My credit card would disagree with you though...I wasn't
 prepared to do both the tranny AND the engine in the same month (or year
 for that matter!).
 BTW, if anyone care, I found out Steven's Creek was yankin' my chain
 about the 1 week repair...I'm lookin' at 2 weeks minimum.  :-(
 Scott
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 /_/_|_\__      Scott Wilson
 | _     _ :     Santa Clara, CA
 */_\---/_\'     http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
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 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:46:59 -0800
 From: "wg"  Subject: Hi Lift uses
 To:  As far as uses for Hi lifts go:
 I find it is an effective way to loosen
 a tooth or break a rib or two! :~)
 Just jack up your truck, don't pay attention
 and voila 3 or 4 pesky teeth gone!
 Wil
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 20:10:27 -0500
 From: Charles Brooks  Subject: Hi Lift uses
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 wg wrote:>> As far as uses for Hi lifts go:> I find it is an effective way to loosen> a tooth or break a rib or two! :~)> Just jack up your truck, don't pay attention> and voila 3 or 4 pesky teeth gone!
 OUCH! Sounds like experience talking ;)
 Charles Brooks
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 19:02:49 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Hi Lift uses
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I kicked mine loose and it hit my hat and skinned my forehead but if it
 hit me directly I truly think I'd be dead.  Watch out!
 Brandon
 Charles Brooks wrote:> wg wrote:>>>> As far as uses for Hi lifts go:>> I find it is an effective way to loosen>> a tooth or break a rib or two! :~)>> Just jack up your truck, don't pay attention>> and voila 3 or 4 pesky teeth gone!>> OUCH! Sounds like experience talking ;)>> Charles Brooks
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 98 16:36:05 -0600
 From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
 Subject: List Member's Ride's page updated.
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Well, after a lot of procrastination (sp?) on my part, I've finally gotten
 around to doing something about the slow loading of the member's trucks page.
 The first thing I've done is to break it down into 5 chunks (early p/u, mid
 p/u, late p/u & tacoma, early 4 Run, late 4Run)
 It's at:
 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3481/
 Check it out and let me know if I broke or misplaced something.  If you want
 to get your truck on to the list simply drop me a e-mail.
 - - Brian
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 15:10:46 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: List Member's Ride's page updated.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 bwiencek@kcnet.com wrote:> Check it out and let me know if I broke or misplaced something.  If you want> to get your truck on to the list simply drop me a e-mail.
 Hey Brian,
 jimmy2.jpg on page
 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3481/truck-83.html
 is messed up...90% of the picture is solid gray...I dunno what
 happened...
 BTW...great job on the page...loads MUCH faster!
 Scott
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 /_/_|_\__       Scott Wilson TLCA #5261  CA4WDC #13393
 | _     _ :     88 4Runner SR5 V6
 */_\---/_\'     Santa Clara, CA
 (_)   (_)      http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 18:24:06 -0600
 From: breeze@cysource.com (Jeffrey Delzer)
 Subject: List Member's Ride's page updated.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Scott Wilson wrote:>> bwiencek@kcnet.com wrote:>>> Check it out and let me know if I broke or misplaced something.  If you want>> to get your truck on to the list simply drop me a e-mail.>> Hey Brian,> jimmy2.jpg on page> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3481/truck-83.html> is messed up...90% of the picture is solid gray...I dunno what> happened...
 Verified here. I get about 1/4" of the top of the picture, then nothing
 more. I use Communicator 4.04, by the way.
 Jeff Delzer
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 06:59:06 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: New tires! Hold me back!
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Well I have my new 33" X 12.50" Mud BFGs. When I was
 getting the new tires put on they had problems balancing
 them. It turns out that my wheels are all bent, one of them
 was bent so bad that I could see the wheel wobble up and
 down on the balancer from outside the shop! I have ordered
 a new set of American 15X8 black spoke steel wheels with
 4.75" backspacing. This weekend there is rain in the forecast
 and if the snow level drops to 4,000' I plan to head upto the
 snow at Gorman. Anyone else up for romping in the snow?
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 21:55:19 -0800
 From: Jason Redman  Subject: New tires! Hold me back!
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Chris Geiger wrote:>  This weekend there is rain in the forecast> and if the snow level drops to 4,000' I plan to head upto the> snow at Gorman. Anyone else up for romping in the snow?
 Where is Gorman?  I'm in San Diego, but if it's within four or five
 hours I'd love to go.
 Austin Marriage
 yeti@inetworld.net
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 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:31:05 -0800
 From: "Tim"  Subject: New tires! Hold me back!
 To:  - -----Original Message-----
 From: Chris Geiger  To: Toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 7:11 PM
 Subject: New tires! Hold me back!>Well I have my new 33" X 12.50" Mud BFGs. When I was>getting the new tires put on they had problems balancing>them. It turns out that my wheels are all bent, one of them>was bent so bad that I could see the wheel wobble up and>down on the balancer from outside the shop! I have ordered>a new set of American 15X8 black spoke steel wheels with>4.75" backspacing. This weekend there is rain in the forecast>and if the snow level drops to 4,000' I plan to head upto the>snow at Gorman. Anyone else up for romping in the snow?> What day you planning on that?? I could be up for it.  It's a bit of a drive
 for me but if we could get a few rigs I might be able to make it.  I haven't
 really given my detroit a real test since i got it. Oh well, we'll see what
 happens!
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 11:06:30 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: New tires! Hold me back!
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I was thinking sunday if snow falls saturday. Gorman is at the
 top of the grapevine (about just under 4000') hwy5.
 In gorman is an offroad park called hungry valley.
 I really want to take my sun up to play in the snow, last time
 I went (last weekend) the snow was like ice and not much
 of it at all. I will check the weather saturday afternoon and
 post to the list if there is snow. I think it's only about 2 - 3
 hourn from san deigo.
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html>>Well I have my new 33" X 12.50" Mud BFGs. and if the> snow level drops to 4,000' I plan to head upto the>>snow at Gorman. Anyone else up for romping in the snow?>> What day you planning on that?? I could be up for it.  It's a bit of a drive> for me but if we could get a few rigs I might be able to make it.  I haven't> really given my detroit a real test since i got it. Oh well, we'll see what> happens!
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 00:54:17 -0700
 From: Brian Rishaw  Subject: Personal Bio
 To: Toyota 4x4 Digest-posting  Personal Bio Info
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name:  Brian Rishaw
 City & State:  Chandler, AZ
 Country:  USA
 E-mail address:  rebelnoclu@home.com
 Toyota year/model:  1990 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd
 TLCA Member?  no
 Age:  38
 Occupation:  Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) Technologist
 Marital Status:  single
 Hobbies:  Hiking, camping, welding/fabricating, jet skiing, 4x4
 trails/exploring, custom 4x4 modifications, caving, rappelling.
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 mailing list?  I came across
 it in a search for Toyota 4x4/4Runner related items.
 General info:  I've been here in Arizona for 6 years, originally from
 the Detroit, Michigan area.
 My vehicle has been modified by myself with a 1.5" front torsion bar
 lift (8" travel), 3" rear coil lift with air bags and custom reinforced
 torque arm mounts with limit straps (10"+ travel), polyurethane bushings
 everywhere, fiberglass front fenders, 4.88 gears, front TRD Power-Loc,
 rear Detroit Locker, 33x12.5 Bridgestone Mud Duelers on 8.5" Prime
 aluminum wheels, custom rear wraparound rear bumper (3/16" thick) with
 receiver hitch built in (4.5" more tail end clearance!), custom 1/4"
 thick nerf bars, safari roof rack, 80/100W Hella headlights, 150W KC
 Daylighters, 55W fog lights, 55W rear lights, 15W hideaway flashing
 strobes, prerunner front bumper/skid plate, remote oil filter and aux.
 fan/cooler combo, Downey headers with custom welded 2-1/4" exhaust,
 custom K&N filtercharger setup, 4mm overbore throttle body, JET
 performance chip, MSD-6 Off-Road ignition, High Vibration Blaster-2
 coil, MSD 8.5mm wires, Optima deep cycle marine battery, Black Magic
 electric cooling fan, Conn-Ferr transfer case skid plate, custom front
 engine/axle skid plate, rear axle truss/skid plate, Downey front hoop
 double shock mount, Doestch-Tech shocks/stabilizer.
 Future mods: Marlin Crawler, Downey 11" travel front axles, custom rear
 spare tire carrier, custom front winch bumper, auxiliary fuel tank.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:07:00 -0800 (PST)
 From: Kevin Burk  Subject: RADIATOR
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Hey All,
 I have a problem with my current radiator.  The top tank seem has
 come appart and needs to get fixed. It is not to bad yet and I check
 it once a week just to make sure.  My truck is an 88 with 135,000
 miles.  What I am wondering is if I should by a new radiator or have
 my present one cleaned out and repaired?  I was told by a reputable
 radiator shop that it is best to just by a new one for $160 and
 change.  I think though that he may just be trying to sell one to me.
 I haven't been able to fully check out the condition of my present
 radiator.  I don't see the need to spend $160 on a new raditor if mine
 will last, but then I don't want to spend $60 to fix it only to break
 it again.  Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
 Thanx,
 Kev
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 22:56:38 -0800
 From: Kim Christianson  Subject: Stuff for sale
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Hi everyone.  I've got some spare parts laying around that I thought
 someone might be able to use.  I put alot of them up on the list last
 month, (garage sale) but due to a change of address and work I wasn't
 able to get back to many of the replies.  Now that things are back to
 normal, I thought I'd try it again.
 1  3" Rancho ifs kit 86-95
 1  set of Rancho 24 mm. torsion bars
 2  sets of stock torsion bars
 1  set of stock A-arms
 2  sets of ifs spindles
 2  sets of ifs discs
 2  sets of stock ifs hubs
 1  14" ifs travel kit from West coast offered: upper and lower ball
 joints, upper and lower A-arms,     	   slip splined axle shafts, 930
 inner cv's, mounting flanges, and outer birfields
 1  complete 7.5" ifs diff with new 4.56's and TRD posi.
 1  Downey front ifs pre-runner with skid plate 86-95
 1  Downey front ifs truss
 1  set of Rancho 21" 9000's for ifs front (need to use with downey
 extended shock tower)
 1  set of 21" Downey custom valved Bilstiens for ifs front (need to use
 with downey extended shock            tower)
 1  Borla stainless steel 2 1/4" cat back exhaust (off 89 V6)
 1  trany and t-case out of an 87 p/u. (brand new rebuild never put back
 in truck)
 1  trany out of an 86 p/u. (brand new rebuild never put back in truck)
 1  auto trany and t-case out of a 91 4runner. (built by HKS for a turbo
 truck
 1  stock 22re turbo manifold with turbonetics t3/t4 turbo and many more
 xtras for the turbo
 1  built 89 V6 with all acc. trany t-case and ecu. (call for complete
 info.)
 Feel free to e-mail me at kelco@earthlink.net or give me a call at
 (805) 295-0980
 Sean Kelley
 IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE:
 2 sets of NWOR 4" rear springs ('89 - '95 x-tra cab)
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 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:49:22 -0800
 From: "Craig Blanchette"  Subject: Supra Engine Availability
 To:  The Supra engine is way to long to fit into a truck. Remember that it is 6
 cyl long and people have fun just getting a 350 into a toy. I had
 origionally thought of this until I got out the tape measure. Not going to
 happen
 ====
 Craig Blanchette
 blanchet@cnx.net
 http://www.cnx.net/~blanchet
 ====
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Keith & Christy  To: Toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 8:56 AM
 Subject: Supra Engine Availability>    Are there any Hotrod engines from the Celica Supra that would make>good candidates for the Toyota Trucks?  Someone mentioned a I-6 from a>Supra, wouldn't that be a more straight forward swap than a Buick V-6 or>a Chevy 4.3/5.7 or even a Ford 5.0?  I think the 22r's swap back and>forth between the Trucks and the Celica's, are there any other options?>How about a Twin Turbo from a late model Supra, any takers?>>--> Keith Campbell>/////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\>Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum> ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:50:24 EST
 From: JOEMAMA135  Subject: Tires BFG (31X10.5 VS. 33x9.5) MT
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 If I were you,  I would buy 31x13.5 Super Swamper TSL SX's and 15x10 rims,  my
 friend just got these for his 94 reg. cab with no lift,  and now his truck is
 unstopable.  I have 33x12.5 Goodyear MT's and a 4" ProComp lift and his truck
 will easily go anyplace mine will,  including huge mud holes.  The key to good
 mud performance with a featherweight truck like a Toyota,  is to float.  Only
 tanks like Chevy's and Ford's need skinny tires.  We were out at our local
 creek on Sat.  and ended up pulling out a 91 Blazer with 44's. (It took both
 of our trucks!) He was stuck in a pit we had just floated across many times in
 a row.  This is just my opinion,  and I am in Northern California,  so I don't
 know what your mud is like,  but I can guaruntee one thing,  you will not be
 let down by the way these tires look,  they are awesome!!!!
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 20:37:56 -0600
 From: lynn@cvtv.net
 Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #634
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I wish to unsubscribe to this list. Thank you.
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 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:05:08 -0800 (PST)
 From: jeff hattan  Subject: Toyota Discount????
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Some of you have written about getting a discount at
 Toyota dealers (Stevens Creek Toyota in particular)by
 mentioning a club name.  Is this a legitimate
 discount or kind of a "under the table" deal.  I need
 some parts for my truck and was wondering how I could
 take advantage of this, if anyone can help me out I
 would Appreciate it.
 _________________________________________________________
 DO YOU YAHOO!?
 Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:13:23 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Toyota Discount????
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 jeff hattan wrote:>> Some of you have written about getting a discount at> Toyota dealers (Stevens Creek Toyota in particular)by> mentioning a club name.  Is this a legitimate> discount or kind of a "under the table" deal.  I need> some parts for my truck and was wondering how I could> take advantage of this, if anyone can help me out I> would Appreciate it.
 This is legit.   As a TLCA member you get discounts at MANY places all
 over the US.  There is a list of places to use the discount on the back
 of the bi-monthly newsletter.
 The membership is only $20 year.  It saved me over $400 is 1997.  :-)
 It will save me $500 just this week, since I'm having Steven's Creek do
 all that work to my engine right now.
 Scott
 - --
 _____
 /_/_|_\__       Scott Wilson TLCA #5261  CA4WDC #13393
 | _     _ :     88 4Runner SR5 V6
 */_\---/_\'     Santa Clara, CA
 (_)   (_)      http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 17:29:11 -0700
 From: "Mark Y."  Subject: Toyota Discount????
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 04:13 PM 1/7/98 -0800, you wrote:>jeff hattan wrote:>>>> Some of you have written about getting a discount at>> Toyota dealers (Stevens Creek Toyota in particular)by>> mentioning a club name.  Is this a legitimate>> discount or kind of a "under the table" deal.  I need>> some parts for my truck and was wondering how I could>> take advantage of this, if anyone can help me out I>> would Appreciate it.>>This is legit.   As a TLCA member you get discounts at MANY places all>over the US.  There is a list of places to use the discount on the back>of the bi-monthly newsletter.>>The membership is only $20 year.  It saved me over $400 is 1997.  :-)>It will save me $500 just this week, since I'm having Steven's Creek do>all that work to my engine right now.>>Scott>--
 How do you become a member of TLCA and what does TLCA stand for? I'm in
 Phoenix, are there any places that honor this membership here?
 - ------------------
 Mark
 DbackFan@CyberDude.com
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:31:10 -1000 (HST)
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: Toyota Discount????
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, jeff hattan wrote:>> Some of you have written about getting a discount at> Toyota dealers (Stevens Creek Toyota in particular)by> mentioning a club name.  Is this a legitimate> discount or kind of a "under the table" deal.  I need> some parts for my truck and was wondering how I could> take advantage of this, if anyone can help me out I> would Appreciate it.
 The 'parts suppliers' page on off-road.com lists a few toyota dealerships
 who offer off-road.com readers discounts on toyota parts.
 www.toyotaworld.com is one of those places.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:39:11 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Toyota Discount????
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Mark Y. wrote:>>This is legit.   As a TLCA member you get discounts at MANY places all>>over the US.  There is a list of places to use the discount on the back>>of the bi-monthly newsletter.>>>>The membership is only $20 year.  It saved me over $400 is 1997.  :-)>>It will save me $500 just this week, since I'm having Steven's Creek do>>all that work to my engine right now.> How do you become a member of TLCA and what does TLCA stand for? I'm in> Phoenix, are there any places that honor this membership here?
 http://www.tlca.org  is the place to go to learn more, and to become a
 member.
 TLCA - Toyota Land Cruiser Assoc.
 I don't have the newsletter in front of me...but I'll try to remember to
 look for Phoenix when I get home tonight. Some of the places that give
 discounts are NWOR (not that you'll ever catch me buying from them
 again), Downey (I'm not sure about them anymore though...I heard they
 stopped), and Steven's Creek Toyota.  There's probably 20 more on the
 list though.
 I've also found that a lot of stores that don't officially give
 discounts will, if you ask.  Recently I was in a Speed Merchant buying
 an Optima battery...I asked if they gave any club discounts...he asked,
 'Which clubs are you in?'...I said TLCA, and CA4WDC....whammo, saved
 $15.
 :-)
 Scott
 - --
 _____
 /_/_|_\__       Scott Wilson TLCA #5261  CA4WDC #13393
 | _     _ :     88 4Runner SR5 V6
 */_\---/_\'     Santa Clara, CA
 (_)   (_)      http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:59:03 EST
 From: DRM033  Subject: TRD cam for 22RE
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I just got the TRD catalog, and was checking out the low to mid-range cam they
 offer.  all that duration & lift stuff is Greek to me, but they say it offers
 a smooth idle and works with the factory EFI.  RPM range: idle to 4800.  Is
 this just the factory cam? (had to ask...)  price is only $129.
 How does this compare to other cams?  I figured a Toyota part would be the
 best, and the price is not bad.  How hard is it to install a cam?
 Thanks
 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 David Moore                       DRM033@aol.com
 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
 4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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 ------------------------------
 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 98 16:48:14 -0600
 From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
 Subject: What basic accesories are needed to use a HiLift as a winch ??
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Specilizd  wrote:>I do not yet have one of those expensive battery burners we call a winch.
 Neither do I - haven't needed more than a tow strap yet - if you travel with
 friends like I do!>However I do have a HiLift jack.   The question is what are the basic>accesories needed to use it as a winch.>>Here's a start:>1. Tree saver>2.?
 2. Tow strap for hooking to the truck that's stuck (if the chain won't fit)
 3. Length of hardened steel chain and clevis with at least a 10,000 lb + load
 rating - the hi-lift pin is designed to break (stop lifting) at 7000 lb.
 4. an old carpet scrap - to put on the chain during winching or to lay on to
 fix what 'ya broke ;-)  A heavy coat or other cloth will do.
 5. leather gloves & safety goggles (yeah, I hardly wear mine too, but it's
 probably a good safety idea)
 6. Something to bury in the sand or dirt if you don't have a tree or another
 truck to anchor to. (pull-pal's also work but cost $$$, and this is supposed
 to be the cheap way to do it...)
 That should get you going  Did I miss anything??
 - - Brian
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 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:59:08 -1000 (HST)
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: What basic accesories are needed to use a HiLift as a winch ??
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 bwiencek@kcnet.com wrote:> On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Specilizd  wrote:>>I do not yet have one of those expensive battery burners we call a winch.>> Neither do I - haven't needed more than a tow strap yet - if you travel with> friends like I do!>>>However I do have a HiLift jack.   The question is what are the basic>>accesories needed to use it as a winch.>>>>Here's a start:>>1. Tree saver>>2.?>> 2. Tow strap for hooking to the truck that's stuck (if the chain won't fit)
 Use as much chain as possible and as little tow strap as possible, because
 tow straps stretch, and since a 48" hilift only has 37" of travel,
 sometimes all you can do is crank out the stretch in the strap. This can
 be reduced by doubling up the strap and keeping it short. Using a hilift
 as a winch>worksslow Subject: What basic accesories are needed to use a HiLift as a winch ??
 To: Specilizd@aol.com
 You wrote:>> I do not yet have one of those expensive battery burners we call a winch.
 However I do have a HiLift jack.   The question is what are the basic
 accesories needed to use it as a winch.
 Here's a start:
 1. Tree saver
<<2. A good chain or cable to hook to your anchor.  You need something that won't
 stretch, since you have such a short pull distance with the jack.  Stretchy tow
 straps won't work, you'll most likely use up your full jack taking the stretch
 out of one.
 3. Possibly a shackle to bolt to the top of the jack to hook on to with the
 above.  My jack has a bracket bolted on top that your probably work in a pinch.
 You can also re-position that bracket 90 degrees (to make an L) which might be
 useful in certain applications.
 4. Possibly another short chain/cable to hook the jack to the vehicle.
 Then with the top of the jack hooked to an anchor and the part that moves
 hooked to the vehicle, you make pull the vehicle towards the anchor until you
 run out of jack, then disconnect, reset, and start again.
 - --
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 +1.650.933.1898 (vmail)  +1.650.932.1898 (fax)
 http://reality.sgi.com/rogerb/
 Check out the SGI EuroDev Forum: http://www-devprg.sgi.de/Forum98/
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 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:02:23 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: Whining T-Case
 To: Toyota 4x4 List  Ed.Wong@astramerck.com wrote:
 snip>You should be able to get a gear driven xfer for ~ $350 or even less...>OR - hey - new Marlin crawler gears !!!
 Hope you can do better than this. Toy transfer cases rarely go out
 and are generally pretty easy to find. The last two I bought....I got
 one for $50 (pulled it from vehicle, though transmission was already
 gone) and one for $65 (off-the-shelf). These were each from a reputable
 yard with a 90 day warantee.
 Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
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