Toy4x4 Digest Wed, 7 Jan 98 12:30:02 (HST) Volume 1 : Issue 641
Today's Topics:
96 toyota tacoma lift
Antenna Problems
Bio (3 msgs)
Energy Susp. Poly Bushings
front brakes (2 msgs)
Fw: Bio (2 msgs)
hi-lift (4 msgs)
Lockers for 8inch diffs
New Product Review section
Perf. Products free flow cat problem
Performance Seat Covers - help
Personal Bio Info
Snow Tires
Supra Engine Availability (2 msgs)
Tall and Skinny Sno Tyres (3 msgs)
Tires BFG (31X10.5 VS. 33x9.5) MT (2 msgs)
traction control
Under toolbox fuel tank
What basic accesories are needed to use a HiLift as a winch ??
Whining T-Case (2 msgs)
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:44:43 -8 GMT
From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III" Subject: 96 toyota tacoma lift
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
folks, this is from the general off road list:
From: JHolg67008 This message is to anyone who owns a 96 toyota tacoma. I have blue
prints on how to lift your tacoma 3". These blue prints are free,
just e-mail me at jholg67008@aol.com, and I will send you them, for
free. You must be a good welder and must know your babies, toyota
tacomas, suspension. I am just a toyota lover helping out other
toyota lovers.
just passing on something...
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Leo G. Divinagracia III
ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 10:24:27 -0500
From: Dave Stracher Subject: Antenna Problems
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
At 10:28 PM 1/3/98 -0500, you wrote:>Hi All,..>> I have a minor problem. My antenna is busted. Actually,.. the
plastic toothed>rod that is inside the antenna is missing about the last 3 inches. The
motor is fine>and I cannot justify spending almost 200.00 on an entire assembly at the
dealership.>>Can anyone help?>>Bill Miranda>1990 4Runner SR5/V6>> Sorry if this has been answered already, but you can replace just the
mast, although you may have to disassemble the motor to get out the
broken piece.
This is the procedure for a '93 4runner. (I hope it's similar)
To eject the mast:
1) Turn ignition switch to "lock" position
2) Remove the antenna nut
3) Press AM/FM button and simultaneously turn the igniton switch to "acc"
position
Leave the key in the "acc" position. Have someone ready to catch the
antenna mast while it's being objected to prevent body damage.
To Install:
1) Insert the cable until it reaches bottom (the teeth should be
facing the rear of the vehicle)
2) Wind the cable by switching the ignition to "lock"
If the cable does not wind twist it.
3) Re -install the nut. (Even if the antenna does not fully retract)
Power cycle the radio and the mast should retract fully.
Dave Stracher
djstracher@bbn.com
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 07:44:50 -0800
From: Brian Rosa Subject: Bio
To: Toy4x4 > Personal Bio Info>> POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name: Brian W. Rosa>> City & State: La Mirada, CA>> Country: USA>> E-mail address: brosa@ieee.ecs.fullerton.edu>> Toyota (s) year & model: 1985 4x4 SR5 Extracab>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N>> Age: 22>> Occupation: Student / Engineering Intern at Boeing>> Marital Status: Single>> Hobbies: Champ Car fan (CART), Softball, and soon off roading>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Just browsing> off road links on yahoo.>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: I live in Southern> California and studying Electrical Engineering at Cal State> Fullerton. I just bought my truck, it only has 96,000 miles on it and> is in tip-top condition. The previous owner took great care of it.> It has a 3" lift and mud tires.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:46:47 -0700
From: Kevin Oscroft Subject: Bio
To: "'toy4x4@tlca.org'" > Personal Bio Info>> Name: Kevin Oscroft> City & State: Morinville, Alberta> Country: Canada>> E-mail address: koscroft@hminc.com>> Toyota (s) year & model: 1982 Toyota 4x4 Long Box (22R)
1975 Toyota Corolla Hardtop SR5 (2T-B 4cyl)
1976 Toyota Corona MkII (4M 6cyl)
1978 Toyota Celica GT (20R)
1980 Toyota Celica Supra (4M-E 6cyl)> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): No>> Age: 26> Occupation: Computer Technician/ Programmer> Marital Status: Married> Hobbies: Automotives, Electric Guitar>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Website>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:> I'm absolutely a steadfast Toyota-aholic. There isn't a support
group that could get me
off the stuff. :-) My first car was a little Corolla with a 2T-B
engine (dual carbs), fun car... my
next car a Celica GT with the 20R. The next, a Mark II with the 4M 6
cylinder. Now I'm driving
a 4x4 with the 22R. I've had great experiences with all the vehicles,
certainly I could go and
babble on and on for hours. The thing I seem to do though is I find
an old Toyota that hasn't
received any real maintenance in awhile... y'know, get it cheap... and
before I realize what I've
done... I've fixed up a bunch of stuff and done a whole whack of
preventative maintenance. I take
an old Toyota with little value and without spending a great fortune,
I soon have a vehicle
that lives up to the expectations I'd have in a much newer car. It's
cool driving a 20 year old car
that at first glance looks great and runs even better. I get a kick
out of it anyway. My 20 year
old car is in far better shape than most 1989-1991 vehicles out there
(that haven't received any
real maintenance or TLC). Now, the only problem is that these
'value-less' cars are starting to
pile up on me. Can't sell 'em for a dollar value that makes sense
because there isn't a market for
reconditioned cars (that old) around here.
The Toyota 4x4 was in real rough shape when I started with it.
Broken leaf spring, body
damage. Needed a good tune up. Everything squeaked, rattled,
howled... you name it. It's come
along way in a short time and in my usual fashion I'm sure I'll be
making the 'best of it' in no time.
The one remarkable thing about this truck is it's 22R. Wow,
considering it's condition, it starts
and runs extremely well. I'm not currently fascinated by off-roading,
but I was when I was a kid.
I always wanted to have a 4x4 of my own later in lilfe. I've got a
weak spot for the Landcruiser as
well. One day I might be successful at talking my uncle into giving
up, to me, his '77 FJ45.
Hopefully I'll be able find stuff here to listen to and learn
from. With any luck I won't
confound anybody when I make reference or try to compare the 4x4 to my
other cars.
Everything on my cars gets serviced or replaced eventually. My Corona
Mark II has 446,000 kms
on it, but that's just cause I haven't replaced the odometer yet.
Everything else has been
overhauled or serviced and the only way I've been able to afford to do
that is in doing whatever
work I can, myself. I have no doubt that the 4x4 may be much the same
situation eventually.
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Kevin Oscroft (koscroft@hminc.com)
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:32:15 -0500
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:59:42 -0500
From: "penny" Subject: Energy Susp. Poly Bushings
To: With all the talk of poly bushings squeaking, why do they give such a small
quantity of grease? I replaced my stock very worn shackle bushings last
night and ran out of lube,
before getting to the front spring mounts, can I buy more of this stuff
somewhere? With all the mud/water I wheel in, having extra would be nice.
to re-lube em every once in a while.
Jimmy 82Toy4x4 L.B.
purnrgy@quancon.com
http://www.geocities.com/baja/6397/
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:15:12 -0500
From: "wolfer1" Subject: front brakes
To: I'm getting ready to do a complete brake rebuild and have not been
able to find out what size the front axle nut size is....Toyota is no
help where I live..Any help on the size of the nut would be
appreciated....My truck is a 1984 with manual hubs..
Thanks in advance
Domenick
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 12:46:29 -0500
From: Darren Floen Subject: front brakes
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
domenick wrote:
I'm getting ready to do a complete brake rebuild and have not been
able to find out what size the front axle nut size is....Toyota is no
help where I live..Any help on the size of the nut would be
appreciated....My truck is a 1984 with manual hubs..
Thanks in advance
Domenick
The size is 55mm or a 2-3/16" will also work.
darren
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:22:35 -0800
From: "Gregory M. Muchin" Subject: Fw: Bio
To: - -----Original Message-----
From: Toy4x4-Request To: gregm@adcomsys.net Date: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 7:03 AM
Subject: Bio>Personal Bio Info>>POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>Name: Greg Muchin>>City & State: Bellevue, Washington>>Country: USA>>E-mail address: gregm@adcomsys.net , GMuchin@aol.com ,
3022596@pager.mirabilis.com>>Toyota (s) year & model: 1985 pickup 4x4 extended cab>>Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): no>>Age: 19>>Occupation: Contstruction Laborer>>Marital Status: Single>>Hobbies: Car audio, skiing, snowboarding, and 4x4>>How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: internet>>General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: 1985 Toyota 4x4 pickup, 12
inch suspension/body lift, extended cab, white, 1994 22r 4 cylinder engine,
38.5 superswamper tires, warner winch, light bar, and a stereo system.>> ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:32:00 -0600
From: "AVILA, BERNIE" <0053@StandardAero.ca> Subject: FW: Bio
To: "JACK ALFORD (4X4 LIST)" Subject: Bio
Date: Wednesday, January 07, 1998
Personal Bio Info
Name: Bernie Avila
City & State: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Country: Canada
E-mail address: 0053@StandardAero.ca
Toyota (s) year & model: 1987 Toyota 4Runner (red)
Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): NO
Age: 30
Occupation: Quality Inspector
Marital Status: Married
Hobbies: Sports and many other things !!
How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Internet
(offroad.com)
General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: It's just original. No
modifications other than RS1000 Rancho shocks (all four of them). Just
recently been repainted(same color).Also air, cruise,and it's a SR5
version.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:57:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Valentine Subject: hi-lift
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Could someone please explain to me what a hi-lift jack is used for?
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 10:05:57 -0800
From: Scott Wilson Subject: hi-lift
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Kevin Valentine wrote:>> Could someone please explain to me what a hi-lift jack is used for?
It's uses are limitless (well...almost). All depends on how imaginative
your are. I think it's most common use would be to lift trucks that
are high centered, or really caught up on something. Then you can
reposition the truck, or place something under its wheels while/before
setting it down. I think it's second most popular use is as a
come-a-long....the poor man's winch. (I'm a poor man). For awhile we
were using mine as a aluminum can crusher at my house. :-)
Scott
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/_/_|_\__ Scott Wilson TLCA #5261 CA4WDC #13393
| _ _ : 88 4Runner SR5 V6
*/_\---/_\' Santa Clara, CA
(_) (_) http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:06:43 -1000 (HST)
From: Eric Johnson Subject: hi-lift
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Kevin Valentine wrote:> Could someone please explain to me what a hi-lift jack is used for?
Jacking up your truck
Lifting your truck off an obstacle
winching (tie chains to each side and crank it)
moving your truck out of a rut (jack it up, and push it over)
straightening body parts, bumpers, etc.
clamping
bury it to use as a winch anchor
very handy when high-centered - jack up the truck, shove rocks/logs under
the wheels, drive out.
I'm sure I'm missing about a million uses, but the above are the main ones
I use. Once you have one you'll wonder how you ever wheeled without it.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:23:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Valentine Subject: hi-lift
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Thanks. I can see how that would be a very valuable tool to have on the
trail.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:19:51 -0800
From: Scott Muir Subject: Lockers for 8inch diffs
To: "'Toy List'" I wrote:>Can anyone please tell me ANYTHING about the Toyota cable lockers?
Come on... Someone knows something... No holding out!
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 12:12:00 -0800
From: Scott Wilson Subject: New Product Review section
To: Toy 4x4 List The new Product Review section is up at Off-Road.Com. It has many new
reviews, some of the older ones have updates, and pictures have been
added to many of the reviews. Just follow the link from the main Toyota
page...http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota/
Scott
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| _ _ : 88 4Runner SR5 V6
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:35:28 -0500
From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
Subject: Perf. Products free flow cat problem
To: DRM033@aol.com, toy4x4@tlca.org
Well David - ya just gotta buy an underhood welder!!!!!
EWong
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:43:00 -8 GMT
From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III" Subject: Performance Seat Covers - help
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> From: david >> I'm looking for a place that sells Toyota 95 4Runner seat covers by> "Performance".> I want them to be TWO-TONE (ivory/tan) that will sell them to me I know> they make> 2 tone becuase I saw them before on another truck :) I called> "Performance Products" which> sells this companies seat covers but in only 3 colors and NO two-tone> but sell them two-tone> for GMC/Ford trucks :( ANY help would be great... place/number/site> etc..> if this is the wet okole ones, then you are in luck. visit their web site at:
www.wetokole.com
and 1-888-24-okole (note the 888 vs 800, it's still toll free). perf prods
wanted $249 and direct from them, they wanted $200 plus $10 shipping. plus
they make it custom for just about any seat. and they can send you swatch
samples and they have more than 3 colors...
if you were were asking the other kinds, sorry...
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Leo G. Divinagracia III
ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:47:03 -0600
From: bikethrasher@juno.com
Subject: Personal Bio Info
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Personal Bio Info
POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Name:Chris Rayburn
City & State:Broomfield, CO
Country:USA
E-mail address:bikethrasher@juno.com
Toyota (s) year & model:82 pickup
Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):N
Age:21
Occupation:Bicycle sales
Marital Status:Married
Hobbies:Mountain biking, hiking, fourwheeling
How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:Off-Road.com
General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:82 Toyota 4x4, 3" lift
32x11.5 BFG M/T
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:57:09 -0500
From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
Subject: Snow Tires
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
For the ultimate sno tyres
http://www.nokiantyres.com/welcome.html
EWong
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 10:25:53 -0600
From: Keith & Christy Subject: Supra Engine Availability
To: "Toyota, Mailing" Are there any Hotrod engines from the Celica Supra that would make
good candidates for the Toyota Trucks? Someone mentioned a I-6 from a
Supra, wouldn't that be a more straight forward swap than a Buick V-6 or
a Chevy 4.3/5.7 or even a Ford 5.0? I think the 22r's swap back and
forth between the Trucks and the Celica's, are there any other options?
How about a Twin Turbo from a late model Supra, any takers?
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Keith Campbell
/////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 06:58:53 -1000 (HST)
From: Eric Johnson Subject: Supra Engine Availability
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Keith & Christy wrote:> Are there any Hotrod engines from the Celica Supra that would make> good candidates for the Toyota Trucks? Someone mentioned a I-6 from a> Supra, wouldn't that be a more straight forward swap than a Buick V-6 or> a Chevy 4.3/5.7 or even a Ford 5.0? I think the 22r's swap back and> forth between the Trucks and the Celica's, are there any other options?> How about a Twin Turbo from a late model Supra, any takers?
The supra I6 is way too long for our engine bay. The cressida has a
torquey six as well, but it too is too long.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:16:30 -0500
From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
Subject: Tall and Skinny Sno Tyres
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I live near Philly, but drive to VT for skiing on the weekends.
I came back last Monday night through the Catskill region
during that messy NorEaster. 6+ inches of sno/rain/sleet on the
NY Thruway. The tyres I had sliced down through the muck and only
I and the loaded truckers were moving (45mph).
I run Nokia Hakkapeliitta 10's. I used to run 235/75R15,
but since I now have dual TurTracs and 4.56 gears, the
high RPM whine drove me bats on the 8+ hour drives.
I switched to 235/85R16. These tyres measuer out to 31.25
inches (unladen - off the truck). Funny, cause the tread width
is 1/2 in narrower than the 235/75R15....
Oh - the rear pair are studded, and they are directional tyres.
The tyres will rub (Gen1 4Runner - IFS) - but against the
plastic inner fender well - and only in a weird angle
(not all the way cranked, just a bit before full crank)
I just treat it like that turn stop squeek - ignore it
and go slowly. A few twists on the torsion bars should
cure this problem, but hey it only a problem in the winter.
Gettting rims was a bit of a PITA. I finally settled on
16x7s with a 4in backspace. These are for the older
full size chevys - I got cheapie white wagon wheels -
but they werent as cheap as a 15x7 wagon wheel.. I guess
the load rating is higher.
The Nokias *rule* in the snow IMHO - and if you go up to
VT/NH - you will find that alot of the locals run them
on their cars. They may not do as well as Blizzaks
on pure "lake" zamboni ice, but where do you
find that stuff? (Ice fishing - I know...)
The studs fix that problem.
I understand that the Nokias rule on the East Coast slop
frozen gook that we get here.
Hey - if all the pro rally drivers switch to
Nokias when it snows (even when they are sponsored by
Pirelli/Goodyear/Michelin) its gotta tell ya something.
EWong
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:29:14 -0500
From: "NUNES, ROB" Subject: Tall and Skinny Sno Tyres
To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'" I have never heard of Nokia tires.
Where can I find them?
Where did you buy them?
I live north of Boston MA and I know the road condition you speak of to
well.> ----------> From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com[SMTP:Ed.Wong@astramerck.com]> Reply To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 10:16 AM> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject: Tall and Skinny Sno Tyres>>> I live near Philly, but drive to VT for skiing on the weekends.> I came back last Monday night through the Catskill region> during that messy NorEaster. 6+ inches of sno/rain/sleet on the> NY Thruway. The tyres I had sliced down through the muck and only> I and the loaded truckers were moving (45mph).>> I run Nokia Hakkapeliitta 10's. I used to run 235/75R15,> but since I now have dual TurTracs and 4.56 gears, the> high RPM whine drove me bats on the 8+ hour drives.> I switched to 235/85R16. These tyres measuer out to 31.25> inches (unladen - off the truck). Funny, cause the tread width> is 1/2 in narrower than the 235/75R15....> Oh - the rear pair are studded, and they are directional tyres.>> The tyres will rub (Gen1 4Runner - IFS) - but against the> plastic inner fender well - and only in a weird angle> (not all the way cranked, just a bit before full crank)> I just treat it like that turn stop squeek - ignore it> and go slowly. A few twists on the torsion bars should> cure this problem, but hey it only a problem in the winter.>> Gettting rims was a bit of a PITA. I finally settled on> 16x7s with a 4in backspace. These are for the older> full size chevys - I got cheapie white wagon wheels -> but they werent as cheap as a 15x7 wagon wheel.. I guess> the load rating is higher.>> The Nokias *rule* in the snow IMHO - and if you go up to> VT/NH - you will find that alot of the locals run them> on their cars. They may not do as well as Blizzaks> on pure "lake" zamboni ice, but where do you> find that stuff? (Ice fishing - I know...)> The studs fix that problem.> I understand that the Nokias rule on the East Coast slop> frozen gook that we get here.>> Hey - if all the pro rally drivers switch to> Nokias when it snows (even when they are sponsored by> Pirelli/Goodyear/Michelin) its gotta tell ya something.>> EWong>> ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:15:01 -0500
From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
Subject: Tall and Skinny Sno Tyres
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Address didnt work - fone@fonedood.com
posting to 4x4 digest
John:
The Chevy bolt pattern and the Yota bolt pattern are the same
6 on 5.5"
The backspacing however is "wrong" for the IFS Yotas,
The IFS should have 4.5" to 4.75" of backspacing
The Chevy uses a 4" backspacing.
Its not too far off - and for a 16x7" rim, with the skinny tyre - it fits
pretty good. It does look strange from behind as there is extra
mud flap "inside" of the wheels. You get some better stability that
way however.
Since there are lots of full size Chevy's on the road - this is not
that hard of a rim to find. They are not cheap however - probaly having
to do with the load rating of the rim - the 235/85R16 size is often
used for duallies. The Nokias are rated to 80psi and a
10 ply / E load range (like 3200 lbs PER tyre).
The rims ran about $50, where white wagon wheels for a 15x7 size rim
are about $25-$30. That was annoying.
As noted - they do rub near the end of the hard lock in turns
- but not much..
Tire cost was not cheap - about $130 plus $12 per tire for
studs and about $10 per tire to ship.
I got my local 4x4 shop to get them for me from Greer Enterprises
in Milwaulkie WI - 414.545.2296
Greer gave them a wholseale price so I saved shipping.
There is a website as well - I posted the address to the digest...
I think for driving in "blizzard" conditionson road or on dirt roads,
they rule - hands down.
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Ed,
Is the bolt pattern the same or did you get new rims and have them
drilled? How much were the tires in the size that you are running? I
am running BFG AT's here in Kansas City but, those sound great for next
year!
John
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:42:11 -0500
From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
Subject: Tires BFG (31X10.5 VS. 33x9.5) MT
To: knight@atmos.albany.edu, toy4x4@tlca.org
(David J. Knight) asked about 235/85R16 tyres:
1) where did you get appropriate wheels?
Eiter "custom" (aka $$$) or use a common Chevy wheel -
the backspacing is a bit "off" (4" vs the proper 4.5+")
but the tyre is narrow, so it will fit OK. There is some
mild rubbing of the inner fenderwell on the IFS model.
Its not a huge problem for the street - possibly a bigger
problem for off road - but really its not IMHO a tyre size
for that kind of work anyway.
I ran American Racing Wagon wheels - 16x7 w/ a 4" backspacing.
2) I was concerned the load rating might be too high for a Toy, and hence givea really rough ride. Is this a problem?
Keep the pressure reasonable (I run 32 on the street) and
becuase of the big sidewall - the ride is smooth
3) Did you need a lift to fit them?
Nah - but a turn or two on the torsion bar should fix
the mild rub at almost hard lock turn. It rubs the
inner fender liner - makes a noise but no real harm.
EWong
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:15:07 -0800
From: "Roger Brown P.E." Subject: Tires BFG (31X10.5 VS. 33x9.5) MT
To: stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov
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You wrote:>> Just looking for some advice on tires for a 84 4Runner. I have 4.88:1
gearing and 2" of lift. I presently have 31X10.5 BFG MT, in general I'm
very happy with these, but I'm considering the 33x9.5 BFG MT. Have any of
you'll used BFG 33X9.5 MT ? Will they fit w/ only 2" of lift? How do these
compare to the 31X10.5 BFG MT for general on and off road use? The reason
I'm considering these is that I think they will "slice" down to firm ground
better. I'm located on the East cost (Maryland, USA) and have come to the
conclusion that under mud and snow conditions typical for this area a tall
narrow tire does better than a wide tire.
< Subject: traction control
To: Those of you running the single torque bars off the top of the differential
to the horseshoe shaped x-member in front of the tank, how high is the
perch that there mounted to? is a high or low perch more effective? My rear
axle is really twisting up now w/35s/locker and want as much info before
fabricating something. thanks
Jimmy 82Toy4x4 L.B.
purnrgy@quancon.com
http://www.geocities.com/baja/6397/
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:29:17 -0500
From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
Subject: Under toolbox fuel tank
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
A bit off topic but of possible interest...
Circle Track had an article a while back about hauling race fuel on trailers.
Apprently - its a big no-no and its also considered to be a toxic/haz.mat.,
so that various local and state constabularies were stopping race car
trailers (including big name NASCAR teams) and fining them big time
for carrying race fuel in drums on the trailer.
Then some bright pit crew got the brilliat idea that while it is illegal
to haul fuel in a 55 gal drum on the trailer, it was perfectly legal
to haul fuel in the tractor trailer fuel tank. Hence the great spy shot
the following month of a NASCAR team (with team names and faces
blocked out) pouring raced gas from a refeuling can into the side tanks
on the tractor that pulled the team trailer. (I doubt the tank was
connected to the diesel supply)
Our laws at work....
EWong
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:11:38 EST
From: Specilizd Subject: What basic accesories are needed to use a HiLift as a winch ??
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I do not yet have one of those expensive battery burners we call a winch.
However I do have a HiLift jack. The question is what are the basic
accesories needed to use it as a winch.
Here's a start:
1. Tree saver
2.?
Steve Keene TLCA # 5414
Specilizd@aol.com
81 Toyota Long Bed Truck, Front 3" Rancho Springs, Rear 2 1/2" Shackles+2"
Performance Add-a-Leaf, 32" BFG Mud Terrain , Stainless Steel Brake line rear,
Relocated front brake Lines, Exteded Diff, Breathers, On board air.(By Colman
Ha!), Roll bar Air Tank, Seats in bed w/4 point belts, Bikini top over bed.
4:56 diff. gears, Lockright in Rear.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:16:18 -0800
From: Scott Muir Subject: Whining T-Case
To: "'Toy List'" ,>>> Dave Booth
There is also a slight vibration, but I'm not
sure if it is the T-case or the new 4.88 gears. I know it's not the
drive line or U-joints, since I just had the joints replaced and the
driveline balanced.
<< To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Hi, I am asking this question for my buddy who doesn't have computer
access. He has a 1990 Toyota 4x4 pickup truck with a short bed. He
wants to know the best,easiest and least expensive way to lift the
vehicle to accomodate 35x12.5x15 BFG Radial A/T tires with 15x 10
rims. We have determined that he needs at least 5" of lift. He has already
body lifted it 3". Please RTP or post as I have subscribed to your list for
him.
Stan
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