Toy4x4 Digest          Tue,  6 Jan 98 12:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 639
 Today's Topics:
 8" Full Floater/Disc Brakes
 87 transmission
 88 V6 transmissions
 [Fwd: Tacoma Lift]
 Antartic LC's
 best tires (2 msgs)
 Bio
 Disc Brakes
 engine swap (3 msgs)
 head gasket or timing chain or both
 Head Gasket Success in Oz
 How many bananas for LSD install (3 msgs)
 How many bananas for LSD Install. (3 msgs)
 Injector Cleaning (2 msgs)
 Lockers for 8inch diffs. (2 msgs)
 Part Numbers?
 thanks for 3.0 L power sug. (2 msgs)
 Tires BFG (31X10.5 VS. 33x9.5) MT (3 msgs)
 Under toolbox fuel tank
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:55:43 -0000
 From: runars@isbank.is
 Subject: 8" Full Floater/Disc Brakes
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 FJ40's, xx60's and xx80's, have all had full flotaters on some models
 and some not.
 Those axles however have nothing in common with the Hilux rear end
 except for the 1.31" thick axle shafts (same as DANA 44 and DANA 60 thin
 axle) and the same number of splines.
 In Oz, all LC's have been full floaters since the seventies....!
 In Europe, some have been full floaters, and some not.
 Runar.> -----Original Message-----> From:	Darren Floen [SMTP:dfloen@Quetico.tbaytel.net]> Sent:	Tuesday, January 06, 1998 4:19 AM> To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject:	Re: 8" Full Floater/Disc Brakes>> K.Johnson wrote:>> As I recall, from attending several Canadian Toyota events across the> border, full floaters were available in 4wd models up there, some were> in> FJ40's others in the newer FJ60 wagons. But are there any of our> neighbors up North, able to confirm this?  They may be available in> countries other than the US like South America also.>>> None that ive seen up here in N.W.Ontario>> Darren
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:22:47 -0500
 From: Rick  Subject: 87 transmission
 To: "'toy4x4@tlca.org'"  I had the usual luck with the digest search engine, (no offense to whoever
 takes care of it).  Can anyone who has replaced the shifter's wearing parts
 send me some info?
 TIA
 Rick ( rjhrfam@worldnet.att.net )
 - 83 FJ60 (for sale)
 - 88 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd (mine)
 - - 94 4Runner SR5 V6 auto (hers)
 Member- Carolina Cruisers, CNC 4x4, Toyota Land Cruiser Association
 TLCA #5042
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:19:29 -0500
 From: Rick  Subject: 88 V6 transmissions
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  Following your suggestion, I looked in my factory manual.  Yes, an 88V6 has
 the all-gear t-case.  I don't know if this means it is more compatible with
 Marlin's setup or not, but for some strange reason it makes me very happy.
 Rick ( rjhrfam@worldnet.att.net )
 - 83 FJ60 (for sale)
 - 88 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd (mine)
 - - 94 4Runner SR5 V6 auto (hers)
 Member- Carolina Cruisers, CNC 4x4, Toyota Land Cruiser Association
 TLCA #5042
 - -----Original Message-----
 From:	Ed.Wong@astramerck.com [SMTP:Ed.Wong@astramerck.com]
 Sent:	Monday, January 05, 1998 6:10 PM
 To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject:	88 V6 transmissions
 Not that is a real answer - but the 89V6 (gen1)
 factory manual shows the R151 having the chain driven case
 Ask Marlin (of Marlin Crawler fame)
 EWong>>> If anyone knows, I would really like to know if the 88V6 had the all-gear
 t-case that the 87 Turbo had.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 13:52:48 -0500
 From: Chris Caldwell  Subject: [Fwd: Tacoma Lift]
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 Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 22:24:03 -0500
 To: caldwell@vol.com
 From: John McCool  Subject: Tacoma Lift
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 Chris,
 I'm not sure how to reply to the news letter yet as I am new to this.  But
 I can tell you a bit about the Downey lift.  If you would like to send this
 on to the news letter for others to input that would be great.
 I assume the left and right spacers are the same diameter since my lift kit
 did not indicate left or right.  As a matter of fact, you can order from
 Downey a 1.5" spacer separate from their spring kit to lift the vehicle in
 the front.  The only problem you will have is that the shock may top out
 when the front wheels drop.  The spring lift from Downey comes with longer
 travel shocks to compensate for this.  Also, the shackle lift in the back
 may cause your springs to hit the exhaust pipe where it turns to exit the
 truck.
 I hope this helps,
 John
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 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 14:02:11 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Antartic LC's
 To: Toy 4x4 List  If you think your truck is the biggest, baddest around this site has a
 good chance at bruising your ego.  ;-)
 This just came across my desk...thought you guys would like it
 http://www.arctictrucks.is
 Scott
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 _____
 /_/_|_\__       Scott Wilson TLCA #5261  CA4WDC #13393
 | _     _ :     88 4Runner SR5 V6
 */_\---/_\'     Santa Clara, CA
 (_)   (_)      http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:57:34 -0500
 From: "penny"  Subject: best tires
 To:  This is just my opinion, yours may be different!
 General Grabber M/Ts, there Cheap, Radial, Very Aggresive. The 35" Generals
 I have are awesome in the mud! I wouldnt trade them for an equally sized
 swamper
 Zero road noise, balanced without lots of weight, my truck is a daily
 driver/mud dog, actually I even pull my lawn service trailer with it daily
 :o) Plus they only costed $516.00 mounted/balanced 35-12.50-15 ,dollar for
 dollar they are hard to beat. They also wear very good
 almost a year old and still look brand new!
 Jimmy 82Toy4x4 L.B.
 purnrgy@quancon.com
 http://www.geocities.com/baja/6397/
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:02:13 -0500
 From: "penny"  Subject: best tires
 To:  Has anyone else run these tires and had the same results?
 They seem like there gonna last forever. On my last 4 wheeling trip one of
 the rears picked up 5 roofing nails,
 to my suprise none of the 5 actually punctured the tire!
 Jimmy 82Toy4x4 L.B.
 purnrgy@quancon.com
 http://www.geocities.com/baja/6397/
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 11:53:00 -0500
 From: Morgan Younger  Subject: Bio
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:05:38 -1000>To: myounge@truth.mccallie.org>From: Toy4x4-Request>Reply-To: Toy4x4 >Subject: Bio>>Personal Bio Info>>POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>Name:Morgan Younger>>City & State:Signal Mtn., TN 37377>>Country:USA>>E-mail address:myounge@truth.mccallie.org>>Toyota (s) year & model:1989 4runner 3.0V6>>Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):N>>Age:16>>Occupation:>>Marital Status:Not married>>Hobbies:4wheeling- atv and with my 4runner>>How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:>>General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:>>> ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 98 12:03:28 -0600
 From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
 Subject: Disc Brakes
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Mon, 05 Jan 1998, "Jay Kopycinski"  wrote:>bwiencek@kcnet.com wrote:>>Well, you could use Samarai rotors. These will fit over the axle>flange, but would have to center based on the lug studs. The>Sammy bolt circle is 5 on 5.5" so the first lug hole is free. You>have to drill the other five. I actually drilled one and was prototyping>this direction for a short while.
 Well, I really don't want to drill the rotors... the Chevy Rotors sound like
 the best bet, as if you need one in the future (out of town?) a simple file
 or grinder can take care of the hub enlargement.>BTW.....the '85 4WD truck, '85 disc-drum Celica, and '85 disc-disc>Celica all used the same master cylinder.
 Interesting - that would have made the calipers a good choice as for the
 cylinder volume.
 THANKS for the info!
 - Brian
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 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 14:48:26 -0500
 From: "Wilbur M. Yegge"  Subject: engine swap
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Its time to remove my third anemic 22r from my 85 4x4. Im going with the
 231 engine mated to the turbo 350transmission. Im using this combo for
 parts availability and low cost, and its a v6 on a high performing tranny
 so the extra power will be welcome. My questions are: What vehicle do i get
 a 3.8(231) out of?  Ive allways thought they were in those 80's cutlasses.
 How much will a rebuild kit run me? I can get the machine work done from a
 in house machine shop at a friends fathers trucking company cheap. The
 tranny next...what model vehicle do i wanna pull this out of? Will the
 stock radiator with a duel electric fan setup be enough? Will the coil have
 to be modified to run the v6 ignition? Ive also been advised to go with a
 very low stall tourque converter...just how low?
 The truck in question has been lifted so oil pan clearance shoulb be no
 problem..and the springs are kinda stiff and im doubleshocked so  the moter
 wieght should not be a problem.
 and oh ya i want a carburator no fuel infestation. sorry bout the length of
 the message
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:09:10 -0800
 From: Locke Christman  Subject: engine swap
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'" >> Its time to remove my third anemic 22r from my 85 4x4. Im going with the>231 engine mated to the turbo 350transmission.>[Locke Christman]>Wilbur,>>Why the 231 over a 350 V8?  I just bought parts from a guy who was in the>process of a 350V8 / TH350 conversion for his '80 SB 4x4.  He had chosen the>350 over the 231 because of a couple of friends that had gone the 231 route>and were not happy with the power (lack of it that is).  Now I think these>guys are running 35" and larger tires in lots of Pacific Northwest Mud, so>maybe they are just power hungry.>>Just curious about reasons for your choice, I would also like to do one of>these conversions to my '80 4x4 one of these days.  Sorry I do not have an>answer to your question regarding which cars had the 231V6, I will also be>interested in answers that come from other list members.>>Regards,>Locke
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:23:52 -1000 (HST)
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: engine swap
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 The buick 231 (3.8, 3800)
 is available in :
 Buick Grand National (sweet engine in this app)
 presumably other buick regals
 Various pontiacs including bonneville
 and probably a bunch of other vehicles too (olds?). Some of these are in a
 traverse-mounted transaxle configuration (i think all new ones are) and I
 don't know
 if those models are installable the regular way.
 ej@off-road.com   http://www.off-road.com/~ej
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:45:58 -0500 (EST)
 From: bruce daniel burns  Subject: head gasket or timing chain or both
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 I have the opportunity to get an '85 4x4 toyota from my  brother for 750
 dollars .  He says there is water in the oil and its smoking really
 bad. My question is, how hard and expensive is it  to replace
 the headgasket, timing chain, water pump etc. the truck has 183,000 miles
 and has never had any major mechanical work done to it. I don't really
 need another vehicle or at least thats what my wife says!!! Any advice
 or comments would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks,
 Bruce Burns
 '94  xtra cab 4x4 v6
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 21:35:34 +1100
 From: ktyrrell  Subject: Head Gasket Success in Oz
 To: toy4X4@tlca.org
 On Monday of this week I was booked into one of our local Toyota dealers
 in Melbourne(Australia) to have a Head gasket replaced (all expenses
 paid !) I thought it was my charm, but apparently Toyota Australia is
 having a recall on V6 4runner head gaskets.
 Thanks to all of you out there who have been pushing Toyota for so long.
 By the way, no questions asked by the dealer at all.
 Kevin Tyrrell
 (Melbourne Australia)
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:01:33 -0000
 From: runars@isbank.is
 Subject: How many bananas for LSD install
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I don't belive any manufacturer would ever put in anything like that
 into a perfectly good automobile.  No I bet the Tacoma locker is just
 like the good old Hilux, 60-70-80 series Toyota lockers, Electric.
 Runar.> -----Original Message-----> From:	Ken Emanuel [SMTP:Emanuel@csus.edu]> Sent:	Tuesday, January 06, 1998 1:31 AM> To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject:	Re: How many bananas for LSD install>>> I didn't see an entry for an LSD, but their locking differential is>> listed, and its just a repackaged lock rite, which is a true locker.>> Is the locker used on the TRD Tacomas a Lock Rite also?>> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*> Ken Emanuel                     Emanuel@csus.edu> '87 Xtra Cab SR5    (22R-E)> http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac75830/toystuff.htm> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:42:19 -0500 (EST)
 From: "Dr. Karl Bellve"  Subject: How many bananas for LSD install
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Ken Emanuel wrote:>> I didn't see an entry for an LSD, but their locking differential is>> listed, and its just a repackaged lock rite, which is a true locker.>> Is the locker used on the TRD Tacomas a Lock Rite also?
 I don't think so. It appears to have something external to the 3rd member,
 that regulates the locking.
 Cheers,
 Karl Bellve, Ph.D.
 Biomedical Imaging Group
 University of Massachusetts
 WWW  : http://molmed.ummed.edu/~kdb/
 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-3785
 Fax  : (508) 856-1840
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:06:26 -0400
 From: stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov (Stuart Banks)
 Subject: How many bananas for LSD Install
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 As has been stated, if you are not changing the R&P you do not need to
 worry about setting the pinion depth, but you do need to worry about
 setting the correct backlash between the ring and pinion and setting the
 correct preload on the carrier bearings.  The only non common tools
 required for this is a 1" Dial Indicator ($15 Harbor Freight Tools
 1-800-905-5220) and a Magnetic Base ($15) to accurately hold the dial
 indicator. It is worth spending $30 to get these tools for this job and of
 course a Toyota Factory Repair Manual. Simply measure the backlash at 4
 locations around the ring gear BEFORE  removal, record these values.  Then
 set the backlash to this range during installation.  It is important not to
 set used worn gears to the original backlash spec. as this will change the
 contact pattern. With these tools and a means for installing new bearings
 on the differential carrier, a hydraulic press is best, it is not difficult
 at all to install any differential unit, True Trac, Detroit Locker, etc.
 If a Lock Right is used there is no need to worry about pressing on
 bearings sense the original case is re-used.  The orientation of the
 bearing caps is very important, mark it before disassembly, during assembly
 the cap should fit tightly against the carrier with a small amount of hand
 pressure if it does not it is not threaded properly, do not tighten the
 bearing cap bolts until the adjusting nut is properly threaded.
 ******************************
 * stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov *
 * Stuart Banks               *
 * NASA GSFC Code 552         *
 * Greenbelt, MD 20771        *
 * (301)286-5934              *
 ******************************
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:12:29 -0500 (EST)
 From: "Dr. Karl Bellve"  Subject: How many bananas for LSD Install.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Jim Brink wrote:> The good Dr.Karl wins the prize!>> There is no need to change anything on the pinion shaft when installing> a traction-aiding device, be it a locker, spool, or limited slip> differential.>> Only the actual differential carrier, ring gear, bearings/races, and> adjuster nuts are removed. Only ring gear backlash (and pattern) need be> inspected/adjusted as needed. The term "ring and pinion set-up" (R&P)> refers to both pieces in the gear set. In other words, "R&P" is not> correct terminology when refering to just installing a TAD.>> When replacing the entire gearset like when changing the gear ratio,> yes, this would require R&P set-up.> Thanks for the really useful information. Since I don't want to change the
 4.10 gears I have now (I like my highway cruising speed of around 75mph,
 31 inch times), I just want to throw in a couple of true-tracs, front and
 rear. Do you just need normal tools for setting the backlash and pattern
 for the ring gear? How many bananas is this? If you need additional tools?
 What would they be? It would give me an excuse to buy more tools. You
 never have enough tools.
 Cheers,
 Karl Bellve, Ph.D.
 Biomedical Imaging Group
 University of Massachusetts
 WWW  : http://molmed.ummed.edu/~kdb/
 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-3785
 Fax  : (508) 856-1840
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 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 13:05:22 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: How many bananas for LSD Install.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 DR KARL WROTE:
 snip:
 rear. Do you just need normal tools for setting the backlash and pattern
 for the ring gear? How many bananas is this? If you need additional
 tools?
 What would they be? It would give me an excuse to buy more tools. You
 never have enough tools.
 Cheers,
 Karl Bellve, Ph.D.
 Biomedical Imaging Group
 University of Massachusetts
 WWW  : http://molmed.ummed.edu/~kdb/
 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-3785
 Fax  : (508) 856-1840
 Karl,you will need a dial indicator with a magnetic base.They are
 usually purchased seperatly.A dial indicator is used to measure
 deflection in a linear direction.You setup the gears by feel first to
 get them close for measuring,then setup the dial indicator perpendicular
 to the pinion to measure the movement between the ring and pinion
 (backlash).You must hold the pinion from moving during this
 operation,and check for any runout on the ring gear with the indicator.
 Once backlash is set you the check the patern by coating the ring gear
 with gear marking dye.The patern should be centered in all ways on the
 teeth and identical from drive to coast sides of the tooth.
 Darren
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 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 15:35:58 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: How many bananas for LSD Install.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Everyone who is interested in setting up thier own diffs go to:
 http://www.thegrid.net/thedrivetrainpage/diff.htm
 Darren
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 11:54:25 -0600
 From: Clif Moyers  Subject: Injector Cleaning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Well my '85 22RE is in a million pieces, awaiting return of the block
 and head from the machine shop.
 As I sit here wondering what other "preventive" measures I can apply
 while the pieces are off, I question the fuel injectors; should they be
 cleaned/serviced???
 I notice that there is a local place that will run 'cleaner through them
 and "back-flush" them.  I also notice on the web that there are places
 that will disassemble them and ultrasonically clean them, replacing the
 pentil, gaskets, and basket filter.  Of course these people tout how
 chemical cleaning may destroy the injector, etc.
 Recommendations?
 I have no way of inspecting the spray pattern to tell if I need
 service.  All I know is that they are 12 years old and have 175k miles
 on them.  I also know that this vehicle is slow to start, especially
 after hot soak.  After cold start switches, etc., I still haven't
 figured this problem out!
 Clif
 '85 4runner
 - --
 Clif Moyers
 (cmoyers@mickey.cti-pet.com)
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 98 11:39:56 -0600
 From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
 Subject: Injector Cleaning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Tue, 06 Jan 1998, Clif Moyers  wrote:>I notice that there is a local place that will run 'cleaner through them>and "back-flush" them.  I also notice on the web that there are places>that will disassemble them and ultrasonically clean them, replacing the>pentil, gaskets, and basket filter.  Of course these people tout how>chemical cleaning may destroy the injector, etc.
 Well, I'd check out the ultrasonic cleaning of the injectors.  I had read a
 couple of articles about the process (mostly in industrial equipment / diesel
 equipment articles), and while it can't fix a broken or totally clogged
 injector, they have like a 95% success at getting the injectors back to
 something like 98% of origional flow.  The cost is supposed to be fairly
 reasonable to do ,but few places are set up to do it.  Most do the chemical
 flushes.  If it's over $30/injector, i'd go get a set of used ones, take all
 8 (numbered 1-8) to a place that can flow-test them and then pick the best /
 closest matching 4 injectors.>I have no way of inspecting the spray pattern to tell if I need>service.  All I know is that they are 12 years old and have 175k miles>on them.
 I've often thought a simple oscilator circut with a set of switching SCR's
 would get a "close enough" test signal to open & close the injectors, then
 simply leave them hooked to the fuel rail, and turn on the truck's pump, and
 fire away, and see what kind of volume/pattern you get - mainly looking for
 consistant volume, even pattern - it would be a lot safer not using gasoline
 (NO SMOKING !!), but would be a quick & dirty way to test.>I also know that this vehicle is slow to start, especially>after hot soak.  After cold start switches, etc., I still haven't>figured this problem out!
 Leaky injectors could definately cause this problem. (not enough residual
 pressure in the fuel rail, and a lot of raw fuel in the combustion chamber)
 - - Brian
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 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 10:54:00 -0800
 From: Scott Muir  Subject: Lockers for 8inch diffs.
 To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org"  Since the talk with LSDs is kicking around, I'm going to dig up the old
 dead horse and
 kick it a few more times.
 Can anyone please tell me ANYTHING about the Toyota cable lockers?
 I wanna know
 - -what vehicles (worldwide) had these
 - -what are the compatibility issues
 - -what are the chances of finding one in a wreck here in Canada (zero or
 not zero)
 - -Are they in Austrailia? Japan? (I have secret agents there 8)  )
 - -$$$
 - -can they be had from a dealer
 I saw a picture of one in a Peterson's last year.  By the sounds of
 things, Toyota holds the patent on it.
 It also sounds like the new electric locking diffs are a similar critter
 except they use a servo motor instead
 of the cable.
 Geez, what I would give to get my hands on 2 of these...
 Anyroad, feel free to e-mail me any rumours you've heard.  Thanks.
 Scott
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 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 12:49:41 -0800
 From: Ken Emanuel  Subject: Lockers for 8inch diffs.
 To: Toyota E-mail List Group  Scott Muir wrote:>> Can anyone please tell me ANYTHING about the Toyota cable lockers?
 It kills me to think you could buy our trucks with those lockers--
 just not in the good 'ol US of A.
 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 Ken Emanuel                     Emanuel@csus.edu
 '87 Xtra Cab SR5    (22R-E)
 http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac75830/toystuff.htm
 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 10:46:01 -0600
 From: Clif Moyers  Subject: Part Numbers?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Call Lou Fusz Toyota (1-800-325-9581) and purchase a microfiche set for
 your model.  You will have to find a reader to view these, but it sure
 is handy!  Cost is about $20.
 If 1-800 doesn't work for you, call the dealership (1-314-966-5404) and
 they should be able to get you to Don or Stewart at the parts desk.
 BTW, they have excellent prices on parts.
 Clif
 - --
 Clif Moyers
 (cmoyers@mickey.cti-pet.com)
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 07:16:36 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: thanks for 3.0 L power sug.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Tom,
 I've got Doug Thorley headers and I love em, nice tri-y shape.
 Tom Rompies wrote:   I am most likely>>>going  to install a set of headers, downey or northwest don't know yet.>>>Anybodyout there with any preferences?>>>91 4runner TLCA# 6136>>>4" Pro Comp 5" Rear Costum>>>33'sBFG-MT 5.29's ARB Rear>>>Locker ARB Frt.Bumper w/Warn>>>Nerf Bars Flares Quick Disc.>>>Sway Bars Costum Tow Set Up>>>9000's w/Dual Control Borla>>>Cat Back K&N Filter Charger>>>550 Watts of sound.>>>>>>   Tom Rompies>>>Member Rising Sun>>>Denver CO>>>****************************>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************> 91 4runner TLCA# 6136> 4" Pro Comp 5" Rear Costum> 33'sBFG-MT 5.29's ARB Rear> Locker ARB Frt.Bumper w/Warn> Nerf Bars Flares Quick Disc.> Sway Bars Costum Tow Set Up> 9000's w/Dual Control Borla> Cat Back K&N Filter Charger> 550 Watts of sound.>>    Tom Rompies> Member Rising Sun> Denver CO> ****************************
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 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 14:12:54 -0600
 From: John Schultz  Subject: thanks for 3.0 L power sug.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Are Thorley's made for the 22RE?  If so, who sells them?  A friend just
 put a Thorley on his Samurai, made a world of difference!
 John
 Brandon Miller wrote:>> Tom,> I've got Doug Thorley headers and I love em, nice tri-y shape.>> Tom Rompies wrote:   I am most likely>>>>>going  to install a set of headers, downey or northwest don't know yet.>>>>Anybodyout there with any preferences?>>>>>91 4runner TLCA# 6136>>>>4" Pro Comp 5" Rear Costum>>>>33'sBFG-MT 5.29's ARB Rear>>>>Locker ARB Frt.Bumper w/Warn>>>>Nerf Bars Flares Quick Disc.>>>>Sway Bars Costum Tow Set Up>>>>9000's w/Dual Control Borla>>>>Cat Back K&N Filter Charger>>>>550 Watts of sound.>>>>>>>>   Tom Rompies>>>>Member Rising Sun>>>>Denver CO>>>>****************************>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************>> 91 4runner TLCA# 6136>> 4" Pro Comp 5" Rear Costum>> 33'sBFG-MT 5.29's ARB Rear>> Locker ARB Frt.Bumper w/Warn>> Nerf Bars Flares Quick Disc.>> Sway Bars Costum Tow Set Up>> 9000's w/Dual Control Borla>> Cat Back K&N Filter Charger>> 550 Watts of sound.>>>>    Tom Rompies>> Member Rising Sun>> Denver CO>> ****************************
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:11:49 -0400
 From: stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov (Stuart Banks)
 Subject: Tires BFG (31X10.5 VS. 33x9.5) MT
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Just looking for some advice on tires for a 84 4Runner.  I have 4.88:1
 gearing and 2" of lift.  I presently have 31X10.5 BFG MT, in general I'm
 very happy with these, but I'm considering the 33x9.5 BFG MT.  Have any of
 you'll used BFG 33X9.5 MT ? Will they fit w/ only 2" of lift? How do these
 compare to the 31X10.5 BFG MT for general on and off road use?  The reason
 I'm considering these is that I think they will "slice" down to firm ground
 better.  I'm located on the East cost (Maryland, USA) and have come to the
 conclusion that under mud and snow conditions typical for this area a tall
 narrow tire does better than a wide tire.  Any thoughts? Comments?
 Thanks Much
 Stuart
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 * stuart.banks@gsfc.nasa.gov *
 * Stuart Banks               *
 * 84 4Runner  230 K miles    *
 * 78 Celica   195 K miles    *
 * 89 MR2      115 K miles    *
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 Date: 06 Jan 98 13:30:34 PST
 From: Norman.Goetz@directory.reed.edu (Norman Goetz)
 Subject: Tires BFG (31X10.5 VS. 33x9.5) MT
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 - --- You wrote:
 The reason
 I'm considering these is that I think they will "slice" down to firm ground
 better.  I'm located on the East cost (Maryland, USA) and have come to the
 conclusion that under mud and snow conditions typical for this area a tall
 narrow tire does better than a wide tire.  Any thoughts? Comments?
 - --- end of quote ---
 I just bought a set of 235/85R16 (Dunlop Radial Rover R/T) for this reason, but
 haven't had a chance to test them seriously yet.  Even though it is a short fat
 world of tires, I talked with several tire people who agreed that tall and
 narrow is better for those conditions.  I have saved a past post from
 Willem-Jan Markerink from the Netherlands, who started me thinking along those
 lines.
 One thing I came to realize while shopping is that when getting the narrow size
 of a model of tire, the tread pattern will be scrunched together more with less
 gap between the lugs.  So you may want to look for a more agressive model than
 you might think, staying away from All-Terrain models.  A BFG AT looks pretty
 agressive when it's 12.5 inches wide, like a street tire in the 9.5 inch width.
 Norman
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 Date: 06 Jan 98 13:33:30 PST
 From: Norman.Goetz@directory.reed.edu (Norman Goetz)
 Subject: Tires BFG (31X10.5 VS. 33x9.5) MT
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 - --- You wrote:
 Have any of
 you'll used BFG 33X9.5 MT ? Will they fit w/ only 2" of lift?
 - --- end of quote ---
 I tried these on a stock '97 Tacoma extra cab; it was no go with too tight
 clearance in the fender wells at 30-degree turns.
 Norman
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 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 98 12:32:00 -0500
 From: Rosenberger Bud  Subject: Under toolbox fuel tank
 To: "mail@UUCP {Toy4x4@tlca.org}"  Austin Marriage wrote:>In the bed of my toy I have a gullwing style Delta tool box, and I want>to install an aux gas tank in the wasted 12" of space under the tool>box.  Does anyone know where to find one, and how do I go about doing it>myself?  On the 96 Tacoma's the fuel pump is located in the fuel tank (I>think... am I right?), so I'd either need to connect the two tanks so>that the aux tank drains into the stock tank or install a second fuel>pump.  How much $$$ should I expect to spend?
 Around here (Buffalo, NY) the work truck equippers have them.  Look in
 your yellow pages under "Truck bodies" or "Truck Equipment".  I don't
 think it is legal to haul too much fuel without a special permit or to
 hook up a bed mounted Aux tank to your normal system.  Most guys around
 here have a dispensing pump, either manual or electric and use the aux
 tank to "refuel" the main tank.  Be sure to check your local laws.  The
 guys at the truck place could probably tell you.
 Hope this helps!
 Bud R.
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