Toy4x4 Digest          Sat,  3 Jan 98 12:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 633
 Today's Topics:
 1998 Tacoma Opinions
    Clutch
 Death Valley Run Update
 Different makes of 4Runner (2 msgs)
 DynoMax + etc (2 msgs)
 How many bananas for LSD install?? (2 msgs)
 Ivan's New Paint Job
 new taco's
 Possible Ban on ALL SUSPENSION MODS in Colorado
 stock wheel weight
 Transmission Identification
 Transmission Identification/Toyota Parts Dept.
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:30:37 -0800
 From: "Sandy and Terry"  Subject: 1998 Tacoma Opinions
 To: >I've looked at the 1998 Limited and really like this truck. The problem>is, I've read some negative things concerning tranny shifting problems>(I'm thinking of getting a 5 speed), dashboard rattles, and vibration>problems. On the other hand Four Wheeler magazine awarded it their truck>of the year.>>I realize that owners with problems are more vocal than owners without. I>also take magazine reviews with a grain of salt. I would ask my dealer to>let me have a 1998 for a couple of days to test drive. I've bought>several autos from him and I don't think this would be a problem. So what>do the 1998 Tacoma owners suggest I do. Keep the 1993 or buy the 1998?>>Thanks for any help you can offer.>>------------------>Mark
 Keep in mind if you plan to do any mods they are very limited to
 non-existant.  There are a couple of suspension lifts available but as of
 yet no gear options.  Has anyone heard if a locker or LSD is available for
 the front?  I haven't heard of any.
 Terry Johnson
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:20:28 EST
 From: TXPakRat  Subject: Clutch
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Jason,
<> A neighbor and I replace the cluch on my '90 4Runner about a month ago.  I
 was kind of apprehensive about doing the work, but my neighbor (ex-GM
 mechanic) was pretty confident.  We did it in his garage (he has a tank and
 air tools).  It was actually surprisingly easy, just time consuming.  For the
 most part, we followed the directions in the Chilton's Manual.  Since we
 didn't have a lift, we put the truck up on 4 jack stands (highest setting to
 give us enough clearance to move around underneath).  We undid all the
 required bolts and disconnected all the appropriate lines and wires.  We put
 two floor jacks under the tranny (front and back) and used them to raise and
 lower the tranny.  Once the tranny is off, changing the clutch and TO bearing
 was easy.  The hardest parts were getting to the bolts on the starter and the
 two at the top of the bell housing.
 By the way, we put on a Downey SuperClutch.  My old clutch (86,000) was
 just about completely smooth!  Wow, what a difference.  The SC has twice the
 clamping power of the stock clutch (when it was new!).  My truck felt like it
 actually had more power.  I can actually lay rubber on a standing start (I
 mean SCREEEECH!).  I didn't know the ole V6 had it in her!!!
 If you want more detailed info, drop me a line!
 Bob
 "The Texas Pack Rat"
 '90 4Runner SR5 V6 with more mods than I can list here!!!
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:47:27 -0800
 From: "Sandy and Terry"  Subject: Death Valley Run Update
 To:  Less than two weeks until our departure for Death Valley.
 There will be a short drivers meeting at 7:15 a.m. in front of the motel
 office.  You should be checked out of the motel, have a full tank of gas,
 and had breakfast by then.  If you are in town Friday night, those who would
 like to meet for dinner we will meet at 7:30 p.m. in front of the motel
 office.  This will be a chance to meet some of the group before the run and
 talk "toyota speak" and about the run itself.
 Items to bring:
 Extra gas (especially if you get less than 300 miles to a tank.)
 Water
 Tool box
 Lunch, snacks, drinks for Sat. & Sun.
 Couple changes of clothes (Shorts if the weather is nice)
 Camera and lots of film
 A happy face
 This is the list as of today:
 Definite or probably going-
 Terry Johnson                       Pleasanton, CA     '89 Xtra Cab
 Rich & Adriana Aguinsky    Palo Alto, CA         '87 4Runner
 Don West                              Los Gatos, CA       '94 Std Cab
 Tim Stucky                            Kingsburg, CA       '84 Std Cab
 Henry Brimmer                     San Francisco, CA  FJ40 or FJ60
 James Fisher                       Fremont, CA            '93 Bronco
 Roger Brown                        Santa Clara, CA    '85 4Runner
 Maybe going-
 Jim Brink                      Manhattan Beach, CA      '86 Std Cab
 Jim's friend                  City?                               Early
 Bronco
 Brandon Miller             Sacramento, CA               '83 Std Cab
 Phyllis Crume              Pleasanton, CA                 '93 Grand Cherokee
 Antony Wilson             Sunnyvale, CA                   '93 Std Cab
 Austin Marriage          San Diego, CA                  '96 Tacoma XCab
 Keep me posted if your status changes.
 Terry Johnson
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:23:29 -0500 (EST)
 From: Ryan Kirwin  Subject: Different makes of 4Runner
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Hey all,
 I'm looking into getting a 4x4 in about 18 months and I'm
 interested in the older 4Runner (pre-'89 hardtop convertible).  I was
 wondering if anyone could give me a quick rundown of the models made
 before '89.
 Thanks,
 Ryan
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 14:52:56 -0600
 From: "Michael Rowe"  Subject: Different makes of 4Runner
 To:  Check http://www.off-road.com 's Toyota 4Runner FAQ, etc. You will find all
 the information you are looking for and then some.
 Michael Rowe
 '88 4Runner
 http://www.southpadre.com/offroad.htm>I was wondering if anyone could give me a quick rundown of the models made
 before '89.
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:24:42 -0500
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: DynoMax + etc
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  I got M Dynomax Super Turbo from local muffler shop (speedy muffler) for
 $116 installed ( Meineke wants $176 installed). They special ordered the
 item for me. Well worth it since the Generic non performance replacement is
 also around $100 installed.
 If I remember it correctly Ken Emmanuel has a custom system made around
 that price.
 As for tornado engine management I have experience with the old corolla 4K
 engine and the 4AG engine. In the 4K engine it make a noticeable
 improvement but in the 4AG it doesn't make any difference.
 It seems if the engine have a low intake efficiency it will help but with
 modern engine I doubt it. If the salesman say this will make the same
 effect as K&N filter I agree with him since that was also what I felt in my
 experience.
 I don't have any experience with 22R engine but I would expect more
 noticeable difference in 22R than in 22RE engine.
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 From:	motoplex [SMTP:motoplex@midsouthmotoplex.com]
 Anyone have any alternative sources for the muffler?
 "Tornado Air Management System". ?
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 Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 09:28:58 -0500
 From: Charles Brooks  Subject: DynoMax + etc
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 motoplex wrote:>> FYI, I phoned Summit Racing today and they said they no longer carry> the DynoMax Super Turbo for the Toy. Anyone have any alternative sources> for the muffler?
 Give me the part number and I'll get you a price.> while taking to a local distributor (www.hypertech-inc.com) about> purchasing a K+N Performance kit he recommended a "Tornado Air> Management System". The salesman said for under a $100.00 it would> give the same performance, if not better as the K+N Perf kit. I have> never heard of this item. It appears to be some sort of fan that> installs between the air box and throttle body inside of the air> intake tube. Anyone have any comments on this?
 It's not really a fan, It's just there to put turbulence in the air
 charge
 entering the intake manifold. I'm not sure how/why/if it works but you
 could Fabricate one yourself for a lot cheaper.
 Charles Brooks
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 Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 11:30:51 -0600
 From: "Steve C."  Subject: How many bananas for LSD install??
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 JOEMAMA135 wrote:>> I am getting ready to purchase a limited slip diff.  for the rear of my 93 V6.> I was wondering how many bananas you think(or know) it is?> I hope you have dial indicators....otherwise its too many bananas
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 Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
 capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
 Houston, Texas			Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 Edelbrock headers
 NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back
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 Date: 03 Jan 98 13:33:11 PST
 From: Norman.Goetz@directory.reed.edu (Norman Goetz)
 Subject: How many bananas for LSD install??
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 - --- You wrote:
 I think I want the
 Detroit Tru-Trac but I just heard from somebody on this list that there is
 also a TRD LSD out there, and It's only $300!!!  Can this be true?  What
 install and set up parts will we need?
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 Yes, I posted this a couple of weeks ago.  From the picture it appears to be a
 bevel-gear type, the same engineering approach as the TrueTrac, though they
 didn't state the torque transfer characteristics.  Not to ignore the
 possibility it's a repackaged True-Trac.  There was some vague statement about
 installation being straightforward.  Clearly it at least involves replacing the
 "spider gears" and carrier, and resetting the R&P clearance.
 Norman
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:46:10 -0800 (PST)
 From: Jimmy Tom  Subject: Ivan's New Paint Job
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Just had to drop a note to say that the new paint job on the "Ironman's"
 Taco is bitchin!  No more orange and red......black and white for now!
 Check it out at the L.A. Auto Show.
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 Jimmy Tom  - -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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 Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 09:16:20 -0500
 From: Robert Kalb  Subject: new taco's
 To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org"  I have a 96 taco ext cab 4 cyl  4x4  auto my first toyota hear a lot of
 guys with old toyota trucks say how great they are but i don't think
 taco's are anything to brag about. i have had a lot of problems replaced
 clutch fan,wiper switch,rear springs, all shocks,warning flasher switch
 tsb on that right now. Engine has bad noise in cold weather dealer has
 no idea how to fix rear springs are so soft if you craw under the truck
 and twist the drive shaft the rear end moves up and down that where most
 of the free play in the drive train is coming from.talked to the dealer
 he said there is nothing they can do unless do unless toyota comes up
 with  a fix. dash rattles lot of wind noise. But I still like the truck
 better than any truck that I had before ! rkalbo@smithville.net
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:59:32 +0000
 From: "Mike Williams"  Subject: Possible Ban on ALL SUSPENSION MODS in Colorado
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On  2 Jan 98, Charles wrote:> Hey everybody go check this out>> http://www.sema.org/consumer/fedleg/stateredhot/coloradosuspension.html>> This can't be for real can it?!?! Alright Jeff, Howdja do it?!?!  ;)
 Charles, unfortunately it is true that the great state of Colorado is
 working on a bill that will in effect outlaw _any_ suspension
 changes.  From what I read about the bill's initial draft version,
 any change is against the new law _period_.  This bill affects not
 only modified 4bys, but low-riders, street rods, street machines and
 even the poor rancher that adds a set of "add a leafs" to his work
 truck.
 A few years ago CSP decided to cite me for driving an illegal
 vehicle.  I decided to fight the ticket and hired a lawyer.  After
 inspecting my vehicle, "they" found that my Toy pickup had a 5"
 lift (springs front and back with no blocks), modified steering,
 double shocks, dual steering stabilizer, and 35" tires  (all of which
 will be illegal under the proposed law).
 Common Sense prevailed, the truck was pronounced legal and the ticket
 thrown out.  We can only hope that common sense prevails again and if
 the bill becomes law it is modified.
 Mike Williams
 Northern Colorado
 '81 SR5
 and Still Lifted
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:41:43 -0800
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: stock wheel weight
 To: "'ptu515@freenet.mb.ca'" >Anybody out there knows the weight of a stock chrome wheel for 87>4Runner SR5?  Thanks.
 I happened to have an old spare on a stock chrome rim sitting next to the
 scale in my garage. The aired-up combo weighs 54 lbs. Dunlops web site
 doesn't list a weight for their tires, but I found a firestone tire in that
 size weighs 25 lbs, so figure in the neighborhood of 30 lbs for the wheel,
 give or take a couple.
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 14:16:27 -0700
 From: daves8@juno.com (DAVE SCHOENBERG)
 Subject: Transmission Identification
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 OK, guys, it occurs to me that I might be confusing a couple of these
 transmissions.
 The original 81-83 5-speed trans was the bad one; weak bearings, problems
 with fifth gear, maybe some weak synchros?  Don't remember completely..
 Toyota made major mods in 1983-1/2 to solve this problem.  I thought this
 was when they came out with the trans with the separate bellhousing.
 Sounds like you guys are saying that all they did was remachine the old
 one-piece case for a larger input bearing and maybe some other changes.
 Is this correct, that they only changed the one-pice case in 83-1/2?
 If so, when did they come out with the two-piece case like the '86 trans
 I put into my '81 truck?  I have been told that the '86 trans was
 designed to hold up to V6 power; therefore much stronger than the older
 one.
 Dave Schoenberg, Arvada, Colorado-----Who else gives advice like this???
 '81 Toy/'86 EFI engine/5-spd/xfer--an' I did it all myself, with NO
 Liquid Nails!!
 DaveS8@Juno.com
 On Thu, 01 Jan 1998 19:27:31 -0800 Sterling Rorden  writes:>I either have the infamous 81-82 5 speed or (hopefully) the heavy-duty>83 5 speed with the larger front bearing.  How can I determine which one>of these is installed in my 80 truck without pulling the tranny?
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 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:18:18 -0500
 From: "penny"  Subject: Transmission Identification/Toyota Parts Dept.
 To:  Jimmy might be able to clear this up cus he just bought my 83 Tranny and a
 I suggested he replace the input
 bearing before installing it in his truck.
 Decided that this was a good idea, so the next morning after I got back in
 town I called my local toy dealer Mike
 Erdman Toyota. I think there parts dept. is run by high school drop-outs,
 this guy couldnt give me info on nothing. After explaining to him for 20
 min. that its the first bearing inside the bellhousing he told me id have
 to come in and show him on the microfish. Im gonna pull the old one and try
 to get it from a bearing house.
 Jimmy 82Toy4x4 L.B.
 purnrgy@quancon.com
 http://www.geocities.com/baja/6397/
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