Toy4x4 Digest          Mon, 22 Dec 97 12:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 609
 Today's Topics:
 4Runner SoftTop? (2 msgs)
 90 Tranny & Transfer Question
 Bay Area Shops
 Bio (4 msgs)
 Body Lift
 Cruising For Gremlins (2 msgs)
 Exaust Manifold Studs stripped!!  Wh
 Exaust Manifold Studs stripped!!  What 'sthe best way to fix ???
 Fuel filter
 Hesitation
 high idle, '94 V6
 How many miles till I floor it:) (3 msgs)
 Rear Defroster (3 msgs)
 Rear defroster problems
 Seats
 Speakers in Xtra Cab (2 msgs)
 springs rubbing the drag link (2 msgs)
 Tropical Tops 4Runner SoftTop?
 Wheres the member rigs picture page?? (2 msgs)
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 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:49:49 -0500
 From: Rick  Subject: 4Runner SoftTop?
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  Andy,
 I  too am interested in a soft top for my 4Runner.  Unfortunately my
 research has turned up only the Kayline as a full convertible top.  I don't
 want to drill any holes in the body-work so that leaves the Kayline out,
 unless I develop my own fast-track system.  There is also a new bikini top
 on the market that uses all the factory bolt holes and requires no
 drilling. It comes with a tonneau portion for the cargo area too.  My
 thoughts were that this top plus waterproof seat covers may do the trick.
 It would still probably be miserable for passengers in a good thunderstorm
 though.  It is available with really dorky-looking NASCAR inspired
 passenger retention netting too...Tropical Tops 28965 Aerie Road., Valley
 Center, CA 92082, (760) 749-92082  Rick ( rjhrfam@worldnet.att.net )
 - 83 FJ60
 - 88 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd (mine)
 - - 94 4Runner SR5 V6 auto (hers)
 Member- Carolina Cruisers, CNC 4x4, Toyota Land Cruiser Association
 TLCA #5042
 - -----Original Message-----
 From:	Andy Inman [SMTP:andyi@ctv.es]
 Sent:	Monday, December 22, 1997 4:50 AM
 To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject:	4Runner SoftTop?
 Hi!  I have an '89 4Runner and am considering a SoftTop.  Can anyone
 share their experiences please (I realize there is already some info
 on the 4x4 web site).
 - -AndyI-
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:00:55 -0600
 From: "Michael Rowe"  Subject: 4Runner SoftTop?
 To:  ...Tropical Tops 28965 Aerie Road., Valley> Center, CA 92082, (760) 749-92082  how Petersen's printed it, Jan issue, p88> The phone number from their pamphlet is 760-749-9280.
 who knows which one is right
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:02:51 -0800
 From: "Dan Smith"  Subject: 90 Tranny & Transfer Question
 To:  Sheldon asked about gear ratios & crawler case for a 90 tranny. As far as I
 know the gear ratios are as follows for the tranny: 1st - 3.93; 2nd - 2.33;
 3rd - 1.91; 4th - 1.0; 5th - .83. The factory transfer case has a 2.28:1
 ratio. Check the transfer case before you go too much further as my 90
 transfer case (4-Runner) is a chain drive unit. It and the tranny cannot be
 used in a dual transfer setup. Marlin recommended finding a tranny &
 transfer case from a 86-87 turbo 4-wheel drive truck. Hope this helps ( Jim,
 please correct me if I am wrong about the gear ratios!).
 Dan Smith
 prism@premier1.net
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:01:51 -8 GMT
 From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III"  Subject: Bay Area Shops
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> From: JC VR 4 >> Anyone know of a good (cheap) auto shop to go to?  I have gotten quotes for my> timing chain from Autotron in Pleasanton and from Pao's in San Leandro.  both> were $900-1000.  I think both prices are way too high.  They say it is 9 hours> of labor.  is that right??> this maybe the best reason to join TLCA: the 25% parts and service discount
 for a bunch of places and one of them is stevens creek toyota in san jose.
 had my auto tranny fluid flushed this weekend and i did save more than the
 $20 the membership cost...
 - -----------------------
 Leo G. Divinagracia III
 ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:32:22 +0100
 From: "Andy Inman"  Subject: Bio
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Personal Bio Info
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name: Andy Inman
 City & State: Mahon, Menorca
 Country: Spain
 E-mail address: andyi@ctv.es
 Toyota (s) year & model: 4Runner, 1989, 2.4i
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
 Age: 35
 Occupation: Founder and MD of a small software house (see
 www.vision4.co.uk/vision4)
 Marital Status: Married with three children, all girls, ages 9, 7
 and 7.
 Hobbies: Music and recording (I play keyboards and have a small home
 studio).  Motorbiking - Currently I have a 1991 Honda Africa Twin
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Did a search
 on Alta Vista for "Toyota 4Runner"
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 I'm British, but very recently moved out to Spain.  Menorca is one of
 the Balearic Islands - in the Medterranean Sea a few hundred miles
 off the East coast of the Spanish mainland.  The 4Runner is my first
 4x4 vehicle (well, I had a Subaru Impreza but that's not the same
 kind of 4x4!).  Bought it in England before for the move out here -
 we did the approx 1000 mile journey from England in three days, with
 no troubles other than the engine deciding to idle at 2000 rpm for a
 while, but that stopped after an hour or so.
 The 4Runner originally came from Switzerland but had been in England
 for a few years (and now it's in Spain!).  AFAIK it's all orginal
 apart from the alloy wheels.  The 2.4i engine is adequate, but I
 confess to being a little envious of you 3 Litre V6 owners!  It's
 done about 85,000 miles.  It's white with sweeping "Starsky and
 Hutch" style red/orange/brown stripes down the sides.  I don't know
 if they're original (can anyone tell me if that's standard stuff?).
 Can't say that I like them particularly, but I don't think I could
 remove them without going for a full respray (unless anyone can
 advise me?)
 The engine seems fine, there's some nasty noises from the front
 (UVs?) when on full lock.  The rear end is sagging a little, not too
 bad though.  The body is sound other than a a few paint bubbles and
 rust spots on the rear wheel arches.
 Being inexperienced off-road, I spent a few hours on a course in
 England.  There had been heavy rain a earlier in the day and
 the ground was basically a mixture of clay and mud.  I was pretty
 amazed at what the 4R could handle, but I had to be pulled out of
 trouble by one of the more sure-footed vehicles on several occasions.
 Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and came home with the car almost
 intact (lost the rear fog lamp which was stupidly mounted below the
 bumper - the bumber ended up slightly bent, as did the front
 valence).  It took me weeks to get all the mud off the car.
 Now that we here in Menorca, I'm really looking forward to driving
 with the top removed once the Spring comes, and I'm thinking of
 buying a soft-top kit (it doesn't rain much, but when it does it
 pours!) There's lots of great terrain here for potential off-roading,
 but I've yet to make contact with any clubs or other enthusiasts and
 I don't fancy trying anything much on my own!  Apart from anything
 else I'm not sure what the laws are here about where you can and
 can't go.  [I guess most of the people on this list are USA/Canada,
 but are there by any chance any others here in Menorca?]
 - -AndyI-
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:35:53 -0800
 From: "Rick Felde"  Subject: Bio
 To: "Toy4x4"  - ----------> From: Toy4x4-Request > To: felix@transport.com> Subject: Bio> Date: Sunday, December 21, 1997 12:08 PM>> Personal Bio Info>> POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name:  Felix>> City & State:  Vancouver, WA>> Country:  USA>> E-mail address:  felix@transport.com>> Toyota (s) year & model:  '92 4Runner SR5>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):  No>> Age:  43>> Occupation:  Writer>> Marital Status:  Married (why would you care?)>> Hobbies:  Snow skiing, softball, racquetball, Chicago team sports>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:  from Toyota
 digest list>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:  70K (on the truck ... my
 mileage is somewhat lower)
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:26:23 -0800 (PST)
 From: Mark Taratoot  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name: Mark Taratoot
 City & State: Corvallis, Oregon
 Country: United States
 E-mail address: taratoot@peak.org
 Toyota (s) year & model: 1997 4x4 extra cab Tacoma
 (replaced my '77 Celica GT that I owned about 10 years)
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): no
 Age: 30
 Occupation: Natural resource scientist
 Marital Status: NYB
 Hobbies: I like to make mead, wine, and beer, collect mushrooms,
 and ride my motorcycle (summer) and/or bicycle (year round). Not
 at the same time, of course.
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: rec.autos.4x4
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: Truck is stock with
 LX package and 31 inch "off road" tire option.  I probably won't
 make many mods while under warranty, other than a cap and perhaps
 the Toyota rear differential lock.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 15:40:37 -0500
 From: redline1@juno.com (Kurt m Steiger)
 Subject: Bio
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Kurt Steiger
 Winder Georgia
 USA
 redline1@Juno.com
 92 4X4 extended cab
 not a TLCA member
 26
 Service Technician for Pitney Bowes
 Married
 Off road act. & home repairs/improvements
 Off the net/4X4.com i think    did a search on Toyo Trucks
 Zero mods. But tire & wheel Swap/ 4cyl. Auto love my toyo vehicles.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 09:56:50 -0800
 From: "Roger Brown P.E."  Subject: Body Lift
 To: bwiencek@kcnet.com
 Brian wrote:>> Just a Question for those that have installed Body Lifts & Poly body mounts -
 How easy did the bolts come out?  Any breakage or need for replacements?
 I've been thinking of installing Poly body mounts on my '85 4Runner, and was
 thinking it might be a real pain on a 12 year old truck.
 Anyone have any thoughts on the pros/cons of the poly body mounts?
< Subject: Cruising For Gremlins
 To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org"  Keith, the cruises on my 4Runner acts like this
 about 40% of the time.
 I think its dirty contacts but not sure. Maybe
 some solenoid or sometime like that?  I have reset
 the ignition (turning the key off at hwy speed
 then starting it back up) and has worked. Sound
 like Gremlins, but I know this 4Runner has a few.
 - --
 Frank Torres
 Cedar Park, Texas
 85 Longbed 4x4
 90 4Runner 4x4
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:59:36 -8 GMT
 From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III"  Subject: Cruising For Gremlins
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> From: Keith & Christy >>     I have an intermittent failure in my 91 4Runner's Cruise Control.  I> hit the cruise on/off switch, the light comes on, and then I am unable> to set the speed.  I try a little while later and all is fine.  I don't> think the switch contacts are dirty, because when it does work, the> speed can be set without any problem at all.  Anyone experience a> similar gremlin?  Any thoughts?  Thanks in advance!> could be the bad sensor in the brake reservoir thingee.  on my 90 4runner, i
 just unplugged the wiring harness to the sensor.  btw, it could be that you
 are low on brake fluid also.  that's the reason for that sensor.  i was told
 it was gonna cost over $50, but a respected source from another toy list told
 me that this didn't pose any braking problems.
 - -----------------------
 Leo G. Divinagracia III
 ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 97 14:59:00 -0500
 From: Rosenberger Bud  Subject: Exaust Manifold Studs stripped!!  Wh
 To: "mail@UUCP {Toy4x4@tlca.org}"  Steve Keene wrote:
 "The studs that hold the exaust  manifold on are becoming stripped.
 Meaning
 the threads in the aluminun head are gone.  On one of them I used a helia  
 coil
 kit to repair it but not all the stud holes are easily axcessable while
 the
 head is still in the truck.   What have others done???"
 The Helicoils are the best fix.  I've also drilled and tapped them the
 next size larger in standard thread.  You have to drill out the manifold
 a bit and tap the block carefully.  Don't drill deeper than it was to
 start with and try to get all the shavings out.  There are some spots
 where a right angle drill is the only thing that will get in the spot.
 You can rent them for a few $ per day ( i think it is $4/4 hours)  Well
 worth the time and money if you don't have one.  Next time you have the
 head off  ( on a Toyota?! ) you can do a better job if necessary ( if
 welding/ helicoil is needed or you were a little crooked!)
 Hope this helps!
 Merry Christmas to all!
 Bud
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:08:06 EST
 From: Specilizd  Subject: Exaust Manifold Studs stripped!!  What 'sthe best way to fix ???
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I'm sure you guys have seen this one I'm just wondering what is the easiest
 and most permanant way to repair it.
 The studs that hold the exaust  manifold on are becoming stripped.  Meaning
 the threads in the aluminun head are gone.  On one of them I used a helia coil
 kit to repair it but not all the stud holes are easily axcessable while the
 head is still in the truck.   What have others done???
 Steve Keene   TLCA # 5414
 Specilizd@aol.com
 81 Toyota Long Bed Truck, Front 3" Rancho Springs, Rear 2 1/2" Shackles+2"
 Performance Add-a-Leaf, 32" BFG Mud Terrain , Stainless Steel Brake line rear,
 Relocated front brake Lines, Exteded Diff, Breathers, On board air.(By Colman
 Ha!), Roll bar Air Tank, Seats in bed w/4 point belts, Bikini top over bed.
 4:56 diff. gears, Lockright in Rear.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:10:35 -0800
 From: "Richard Aguinsky"  Subject: Fuel filter
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org, dlang@mayo.edu
 david, when i did mine, i was struggling with the fender wall,
 so i removed that metal cover and the job of replacing the
 filter went down to a 1.5 banana job. i never put back that
 metal piece on the fender, it so easy to replace the oil
 filter now.
 it's not difficult, just have a container handy to collect the
 few drops of gas that'll come out and definitely DON'T SMOKE!
 have fun
 rich
 '87 4runner
 190000 miles young
 - --- david wrote --> Thanks for the info. How many bananas are we talking on replacing the
 fuel filter??
 Would an ametur mechanic try and tackle this, or leave it for the
 professionals?
 1988 4Runner 4cyl 22RE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BB> Its kinda up by the oil filter. a little behind and above it. Its
 lots
 BB> of fun to change. I love the way cuts and gasoline go together
 Be very careful as the banjo bolts that hold it on must be tightened
 very carefully to prevent leaks.  Although much more work, it is
 probably easier to remove the starter before changing the fuel filter
 than to try to work around it.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 09:51:16 -0800
 From: "Richard Aguinsky"  Subject: Hesitation
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org, mnelson@cwave.com
 mark: before tearing apart your injectors, i had a similar problem
 with a car before. i bought the slick 50 fuel injector cleaner and
 the problems went away. now i use it every time i change the oil
 and it is running very smooth. it's only $9.99, worth trying before
 changing the injectors.
 rich
 '87 4runner
 190000 miles young
 - -- Mark wrote --> From: "Mark Nelson"  Subject: Hesitation
 To:  Maybe I should elaborate one the problem.  It was doing this before I
 started replacing parts.  Two techs have already looked at it.  One said
 maybe a bad fuel pump.  The other said maybe a bad injector.  Where can I
 get new injectors??? ... the dealer is outrageous.  How do I test the
 injectors before to make sure thats it.  ?? I have already replaced; plugs
 and wires, air filter, fuel filter, o-rings on injectors, cap, rotor.  It
 still hesitates under load under 3000 rpm.  It idles like shit too.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 15:13:03 -0500
 From: "Mashi Hasu"  Subject: high idle, '94 V6
 To:  i've been noticing a somewhat high idle on my '94 V6 pickup (20,000miles).
 it had always been idling rock steady at 750rpm but it has gone up to
 900~1000rpm. i realize that it's not all that much increase but nonetheless
 it has gotten me rather curious. if anyone has any comments, i would love to
 hear from you.
 TIA,
 Mashi
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:40:28 -0500
 From: "penny"  Subject: How many miles till I floor it:)
 To:  I was
 wondering what kind of opinons yall have about how many miles I should
 baby it till it's considered broken in?
 Sheldon, the longer your (easy) on it the longer it will live, in one of
 the petersons mags they took 2 pistons 1 new the other used and baked them
 for a period of time,
 taking measurements after the bake they found the "new"
 piston was so distorted that it was unusable. the used piston was fine. Id
 drive "normal" for the first 500 miles
 then change the oil and consider it broken in.
 Jimmy 82Toy4x4 L.B.
 purnrgy@quancon.com
 http://www.geocities.com/baja/6397/
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 97 10:41:00 -0500
 From: Rosenberger Bud  Subject: How many miles till I floor it:)
 To: "mail@UUCP {Toy4x4@tlca.org}"  I have alwaays "tried" to take it easy for 500 miles, change the oil, go
 a little harder on it for a second 500, then change oil, check torques,
 adjust valves.  Then go like nuts!!!  :)))
 The main thing to do is do everythiing smoothly and with plenty of warmup
 time ( I know  youre in FL!) and don't run at the same rpm for long
 periods of time.  You can set up resonances and wear/ break rings that
 way.  I'm talking about an hour or so at the same rpm.  Usually not a
 problem.
 Now a funny story...I was breaking in a new big bore engine in a VW
 beetle years ago on a 7 hour trip up to college.  It was a screamer and
 it was hard to not get on it and to keep the revs varied on a long trip.
 After about 5 hours, an orange GTO " the Judge" came along side of me
 and was checking out my really low, tricked out VW, with these "wierd oil
 cooler things" on the back.  He kept punching it and egging me on.  I'm
 doing my proper 55 and  well, what the heck!  Down to 3rd gear and we
 were gone!  This was on an interstate and we were going at it around 100
 when the State Trooper appears on the side of the road.  Doh!  I was in
 the right lane and he in the left.  He being all orange and chrome got
 pulled over and I in this little black beetle just kept driving ( slowly
 again!)  The engine was fine and so was my driving record.  I was so
 worried that i may have trashed something.  But no problem...
 Have fun!
 Bud
 ------------------------------
 Date: 22 Dec 97 10:19:37 PST
 From: Norman.Goetz@directory.reed.edu (Norman Goetz)
 Subject: How many miles till I floor it:)
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 - --- You wrote:
 I was
 wondering what kind of opinons yall have about how many miles I should
 baby it till it's considered broken in?
 I have always done about a 100 miles or so on a rebuilt block but should
 it be more? I already drove it for about 5 miles today making sure not
 to go over 2500 rpm and noticed a huge increase in low end, which makes
 me want to see how well it works at 3000+ :)
 - --- end of quote ---
 100 miles might be enough, but it should be driving dedicated to just breaking
 in.  Keep RPMs over 2000 but speed low, not over 50, and accelerate over and
 over from 2000 up, at about 1/3 to 1/2 throttle.  You want to work the engine
 but not stress it.  Going up over 3000 is good, as long as it's at a modest
 speed.  Avoid staying at the same speed/RPM.
 Norman
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:57:40 -0800
 From: tambrose@cbm.canon.com
 Subject: Rear Defroster
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Mine had the same problem.
 Check the wires underneath on the rear drivers side.  They go from the
 body to the rear door.  I found that a few of mine were missing some
 insulation.  The ones where the copper was OK, I just made sure that
 they were dry (hairdryer) and then taped 'em up (electrical tape).
 The ones with frayed copper, I cut, stripped, added a same gauge
 jumper, and some shrink tubing.
 This seemed to help the rear window defrost and the rear window goes
 up a bit faster now.
 Hope this helps,
 -tom>> Hi, the rear window defroster on my 91 4Runner has never really done> much, ever since I had the truck, the light comes on, but it doesnt> remove fog or ice from the window.  Is this common among 2nd> generation 4runners?  Anyone know of a fix or some troubleshooting> for this? Thanks
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:07:27 -0500 (EST)
 From: "Eric Johnson"  Subject: Rear Defroster
 To: mbar8792@newton.nj.devry.edu (Matthew)
 Matthew wrote:>> Hi, the rear window defroster on my 91 4Runner has never really done> much, ever since I had the truck, the light comes on, but it doesnt> remove fog or ice from the window.  Is this common among 2nd generation> 4runners?  Anyone know of a fix or some troubleshooting for this?> Thanks>> Matt> 1991 Toyota 4Runner (for sale)> The rear window defroster on my 91 4Runner has the same problem. It
 sometimes 'sorta' works after a very long time if the temperature is very
 mild (i.e. above -5C), but at any winter temperature it is
 useless.
 I'd be very interested if you find out what is wrong
 with yours..
 Eric
 - --
 Eric Johnson (eric@qnx.com, eajohnson@acm.org)
 Technical Development; QNX Software Systems Ltd.
 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada    http://www.qnx.com
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:04:54 -8 GMT
 From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III"  Subject: Rear Defroster
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> From: "Matthew" >> Hi, the rear window defroster on my 91 4Runner has never really done> much, ever since I had the truck, the light comes on, but it doesnt> remove fog or ice from the window.  Is this common among 2nd generation> 4runners?  Anyone know of a fix or some troubleshooting for this?> Thanks> could be as simple as the wiring harness came unplugged.  i thought my 90
 4runner's rear def had gone bad.  when toyota pulled the panel off the rear
 door, they found that the harness came undone, 5 minutes later i was done...
 - -----------------------
 Leo G. Divinagracia III
 ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 09:44:00 -0800
 From: "Smith, Patrick S."  Subject: Rear defroster problems
 To: Toyota 4x4 Listserver  Do you have any tinting on your rear window?  A friend of mine has
 similar problems on his 89 4Runner that were caused when the tinting was
 applied (I believe it is heated on?).
 Patrick Smith
 "Still Ridin' the Nike Express"
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:47:40 -0500 (EST)
 From: lewis winston  Subject: Seats
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I just installed a pair of bucket seats in my '84 Long Bed Toyota.  This is
 the best thing i have done so far. The ride is a lot more bearable that with
 a ratty old vinyl bench seat.  I did not have to drill any hole as the seats
 i got were from a similar year Toyota. I had a small problem with the seat
 belt attachments but i eventually got them to work as is.  As i said, the
 ride is much bette. Ride height in the cab is increased by a couple of
 inches too.  Altogether a good deal, the seats were $50 for the pair and i
 had them repaired and recoverd for $90 at my local upholstery shop.
 Lewis Winston
 84 Long Bed
 22r, 128k mis.
 33x12.5 BFG's
 3" suspension lift
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 09:07:29 -0500
 From: "Stershic, Robert"  Subject: Speakers in Xtra Cab
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  Hey Gang,
 Lots of messages about speakers lately, so I thought I would through my
 question into the fray.  Over the holidays I'm going to install some 6
 1/2 inch speakers in the Xtra cab portion of my 1989 4x4.  I thought of
 mounting them in the two storage compartments on each side of the cab.
 Anybody do this or have any better ideas?  I'm not going for the window
 rattling volume just want to upgrade a bit and add these two speakers.
 Thanks and may Santa bring lots of good TOYS for you good girls and
 boys!!!
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:14:39 -0800
 From: "Wayne"  Subject: Speakers in Xtra Cab
 To:  I put 5 1/4, 2 way coax in mine and they work just fine. With the upgraded
 4" 2 ways in front and a new 35w x 4 CD player/FM/AM, it is about all the
 sound I need in such a small area.
 Wayne
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Stershic, Robert  To: Toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Monday, December 22, 1997 6:26 AM
 Subject: Speakers in Xtra Cab>Hey Gang,>>Lots of messages about speakers lately, so I thought I would through my>question into the fray.  Over the holidays I'm going to install some 6>1/2 inch speakers in the Xtra cab portion of my 1989 4x4.  I thought of>mounting them in the two storage compartments on each side of the cab.>Anybody do this or have any better ideas?  I'm not going for the window>rattling volume just want to upgrade a bit and add these two speakers.>>Thanks and may Santa bring lots of good TOYS for you good girls and>boys!!!
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:44:58 -0000
 From: runars@isbank.is
 Subject: springs rubbing the drag link
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Some 60-series Toyes had a very intressting front leaf packs.  They had
 this thick overload leaf at the bottom, that went from the axle and
 backward only.  I've always thought it was to reduce the risk of violent
 axle wrap during extreme braking......
 Runar.> -----Original Message-----> From:	Jay Kopycinski [SMTP:ryna10@email.sps.mot.com]> Sent:	Friday, December 19, 1997 4:09 PM> To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org> Subject:	springs rubbing the drag link>> bwiencek@kcnet.com wrote:>>>Anyone with Pics or a web page on this conversion??  It's my> understanding>>that you can get RID of the factory 'torque arm', since steering will> not be>>affected by axle roll under braking  Correct??? is this what has been> done???>>>>I know my torque rod is limiting my front suspension severely... any> other>>ideas for this?>> You can get rid of the torque arm with crossover steering. The only> difference being that you have to be more careful when designing> custom spring packs so that the pack is setup to help keep the> axle from rolling.>> ______________________________________________> Jay Kopycinski                                   '85 Toylet   (ROKTOY)> Gilbert, AZ                                           '91 4Runner> (hers)> ryna10@email.sps.mot.com            '72 Jeep Commando> http://www.netzone.com/~jayk        '97  H-D Sportster> Arizona Lo-Rangers 4WD Club               TLCA #3243> ______________________________________________
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 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:04:55 -0500
 From: Rick  Subject: springs rubbing the drag link
 To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"  My 60 does not.  Must be another cool thing from the "top of the world"
 versions.... Sigh.... For the want of an HJ60 and an HJ75 trayback....
 Rick ( rjhrfam@worldnet.att.net )
 - 83 FJ60
 - 88 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd (mine)
 - - 94 4Runner SR5 V6 auto (hers)
 Member- Carolina Cruisers, CNC 4x4, Toyota Land Cruiser Association
 TLCA #5042
 - -----Original Message-----
 From:	runars@isbank.is [SMTP:runars@isbank.is]
 Sent:	Monday, December 22, 1997 5:45 AM
 To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject:	RE: springs rubbing the drag link
 Some 60-series Toyes had a very intressting front leaf packs.  They had
 this thick overload leaf at the bottom, that went from the axle and
 backward only.  I've always thought it was to reduce the risk of violent
 axle wrap during extreme braking......
 Runar.
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 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:59:28 -0600
 From: "Michael Rowe"  Subject: Tropical Tops 4Runner SoftTop?
 To:  I called and got a price sheet from Tropical Tops. Pretty steep...
 Canvas bikini (top & frame kit)		$305.00
 Side Nets				$70.00
 Rear Nets (behind seat to top of rollbar)	$40.00
 Rear Bed Cover kit (tonneou)		$225.00
 Total Combo Kit				$600.00
 Trop Guard (covers over lock latches)	$12.95
 Michael Rowe
 '88 4Runner>...Tropical Tops 28965 Aerie Road., Valley> Center, CA 92082, (760) 749-92082  how Petersen's printed it, Jan issue, p88>>>> Rick ( rjhrfam@worldnet.att.net )>  - 83 FJ60>  - 88 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd (mine)> - 94 4Runner SR5 V6 auto (hers)> Member- Carolina Cruisers, CNC 4x4, Toyota Land Cruiser Association> TLCA #5042
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 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:08:23 EST
 From: Specilizd  Subject: Wheres the member rigs picture page??
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Did'nt somone create a web site for pictures of members rigs.
 Whats the address to that site???
 Steve Keene   TLCA # 5414
 Specilizd@aol.com
 81 Toyota Long Bed Truck, Front 3" Rancho Springs, Rear 2 1/2" Shackles+2"
 Performance Add-a-Leaf, 32" BFG Mud Terrain , Stainless Steel Brake line rear,
 Relocated front brake Lines, Exteded Diff, Breathers, On board air.(By Colman
 Ha!), Roll bar Air Tank, Seats in bed w/4 point belts, Bikini top over bed.
 4:56 diff. gears, Lockright in Rear.
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 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:37:03 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Wheres the member rigs picture page??
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Specilizd wrote:>> Did'nt somone create a web site for pictures of members rigs.>> Whats the address to that site???
 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3481/index.html
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