Toy4x4 Digest          Tue, 22 Apr 97 00:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 141
 Today's Topics:
 12V fix-it light
 22RE Starting problem
 4WPW Catalog
 85 or 86 22RE?
 Administriva - Virus FYI
 Air Filters
 Axle Warp
 Bio (2 msgs)
 Bio and question
 brake line flaring tool
 Carbs?
 Front axle noise
 Galen?
 Grease Type For Throwout and Oil Seal Lips?
 IFS
 Knock Sensor trouble
 lsd? (2 msgs)
 MARLIN CRAWLER
 My truck
 Parts for sale.
 PCV (2 msgs)
 Pilot Bearing Hydraulic-Out Worked
 Slip Joint Play...
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 SUVs
 Torque Specs Needed
 transmissions (2 msgs)
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 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:55:28 -0400 (EDT)
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: 12V fix-it light
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 In a message dated 97-04-21 17:25:26 EDT, you write:> EWong>  Wishing he had a J**p because then the diff would'nt rust to the axle> housing>  because you would have to take it apart ever weekend because it would
 break.> I am gonna get it for this, but I am up for some flaming...
 Why do people degrade every other vehicle on the road?  We can't even say
 Jeep, Chevy or Ford without substituting some of the letters with asterics,
 etc.
 Do some people really hate other makes?  Do they think Toyota's are the only
 vehicle worth driving?  I know some of you guys do this out of jest, but some
 people seem to take it too far.  I met one guy who swore up and down Toy's
 are the best, and all athers are junk.  He just happened to have a Chevy 350
 under the hood.  Seems like a contradiction to me. Don't yell at this, I have
 nothing against mix-n-match trucks; I say use the best parts you can find,
 but watch your words.
 Above, there was a comment about Jeeps breaking every weekend.  Well,
 any 4x4 that is used hard, and used a lot will break.  Jack, how many things
 did you break on the way to Moab?  I just got through installing my second
 R&P in the last year.  Toy V6's seem to blow head gaskets left and right.
 Now, what was that about Jeeps breaking all the time?
 I personally own a Jeep and 2 Toyotas.  I have also owned a fullsize
 Chevy 4x4.  I will always say that each has its pros and cons.  I must say
 that the Toy I have now is the best vehicle I have owned, all things
 considered.  I guess it just seems kinda silly to me to write J**p, or Ch*vy,
 or F*rd and think Toyota is the one and only.  Like Jack Alford said to me on
 another thread-
 different strokes for different folks ...
 OK.  Who's got the s'mores?
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:33:47 -0700
 From: James Brink  Subject: 22RE Starting problem
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 T. Ryan wrote:>> My Dad's 86 4x4xtracab has about 250k  on it and has never had any problems> untill recently when the fuel pump was replaced.> Now it starts hard (cranks many turns) and the longer it sits the> harder it is to start. It's as if it's losing fuel pressure while the truck> is not running. On the road it's fine. The backyard code scan reads normal.> Any help would be greatly appreciated.>> Tom Ryan> 84 4Runner> Bristol CT
 Check to see if the system is holding residual pressure. If not, a
 problem may exist in the pressure regulator, pump, or return lines
 (check for any kinked lines running from the fuel rail to back to the
 tank).
 - --
 Jim Brink				1986 Standard Bed 4X4/22R
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician		135,000 Miles
 brinkjm@earthlink.net			32" BFG All-Terrain T/As
 Stock 4.10 gears
 Rear Lock-Right (TRD)
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 15:32:03 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: 4WPW Catalog
 To: Toy 4x4 List  If anyone cares, the new 4Wheel Parts Wholesalers catologe is out.  I
 picked up a copy at their San Jose store while I was getting those
 longer Rancho 5000's I asked about a couple of weeks ago.
 Scott
 - --
 *****************************************************
 Scott Wilson TLCA #5261
 88 4Runner SR5 V6
 Santa Clara, CA
 http://users.uniserve.com/~rcomber/scottw/scottw.htm
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:34:50 -0700
 From: James Brink  Subject: 85 or 86 22RE?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Arthur Rumpf wrote:
 The computer # is Toyota 89661-35070 and> ND175600-0122. I need to know what year manual to order for the engine> wiring diagram before I transplant this in my 82.
 This computer is for a 1986 4x4, EFI, non turbo.
 Can't remember off hand which socket you are talking about. Tell me
 where it is located (which side and row of pins) in reference to the
 terminal harness.
 - --
 Jim Brink				1986 Standard Bed 4X4/22R
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician		135,000 Miles
 brinkjm@earthlink.net			32" BFG All-Terrain T/As
 Stock 4.10 gears
 Rear Lock-Right (TRD)
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 22:29:18 -0500
 From: Jack Alford  Subject: Administriva - Virus FYI
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 While I'm not generally one to believe or even bother to read the alledged
 html page of every new virus/hoax. Since there are  quite a few AOL users
 on this list I thought I'd forward this message.
 Besides the dozens of bounced messages I get returned to me from AOL machines
 EVERY DAY unable to process messages sent from the list, this seems like
 just another good reason not to use or try to use AOL.
 ========================================================================
 AOL4FREE.COM RECLASSIFIED AS A REAL COMPUTER THREAT
 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 It was bound to happen sooner or later.  Now it has with AOL4FREE.COM.
 The virus protection community feared that someone would create a virus
 or a destructive program with the same name as a harmless hoax.  Just
 last week, Today at Xerox reported that AOL4FREE.COM was considered a
 hoax.  It is now seen as a serious computer threat.
 Xerox has received information from the U.S. Department of Energy
 Computer Incident Advisory Capability that there is now available a
 data-altering program called "AOL4FREE.COM."  This program will
 destroy data on your system if you run it.  If you receive any e-mail
 referencing AOL4FREE.COM or have attachments with this name, your
 local security support team for help in properly disposing  of these files.
 For more detailed information, see the U.S. Department of Energy
 Computer Incident Advisory Capability site:
 http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/bulletins/h-47a.shtml
 ==========================================================================
 Jack Alford
 List Administrator
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 23:37:42 -0700
 From: Peter Landy  Subject: Air Filters
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:13:20 -0700 (PDT)> From: Kevin Valentine > Subject: Issue:  Air Filter> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> .  It's been about a year since my air filter was replaced ->> I would replace the air filter more than once a yr. if I were you.  Just> my opinion.  Good luck.>> ------------------------------> No doubts about it after my previous observation it should be replaced
 at least 2 to 3 times a year.  I just have to locate a dealer who sells
 filters at a more reasonable price, for the FRAM air filter, then the
 one who charged me 25 bucks per one piece. I'll just have to find the
 time to browse through the 4 wheeler magazine's ads.
 Pete
 Stock '96 4R-SR5
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:30:04 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Darrell Creeks  Subject: Axle Warp
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>Well - it went back together w/o too much trouble -  it was not that tight>driving the axle bearing retainer home.>So the question is - whats bent?
 On my '83 the rear axles have never gone all the way in.  They always stop
 about 1/8 inch  from full seat.  Tighting the 4 bolts sucks it right in.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:45:48 -0400 (EDT)
 From: CaldwlCESL@aol.com
 Subject: Bio
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Personal Bio Info
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>>toy4x4@tlca.org
 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name: Chris Caldwell
 City & State: Chattanooga, TN
 E-mail address:  CaldwlCESL@aol.com
 Toyota year & model: 95.5  Tacoma Xtrcab V6
 Are you a TLCA Member: No (do I qualify with Taco?)
 Age: 34
 Occupation: Area Mgr for fast food franchise
 Marital Status: Married
 Hobbies: Plinking, Camping, Wheeling
 How did you hear about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:  offroad.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:  Vehicle=Only upgrade so far is
 a TJM Bullbar and a K&N air filter. Upgrades planned: Lock-right locker,
 winch, suspension upgrade and diff breathers. Self = Well personally I just
 wish I had more time for my hobbies and more options for upgrades for my
 truck.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 22:23:15 -0600
 From: ipoll@sweden-c.it.earthlink.net
 Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4 >Personal Bio Info>>POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>Name:Ian Poll>>City & State:Boulder, Colorado>>Country:US>>E-mail address:ipoll@earthlink.net>>Toyota (s) year & model:94' 4-Runner>>Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):N>>Age:29>>Occupation:Student/Photographer>>Marital Status:S>>Hobbies:Anything in the outdoors.>>How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:The web?>>General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:I purchased my 4-Runner new in>94' so I could acsess trail heads and explore areas to vast to be cover on>foot. I have been relativly happy with my truck.  My greatest complaint is>that it is remarkable under powered.  To combat this and a few other>4-Runner short commings I have made the following modifications:>Ellimination of the single dump exuaste system replaced with a 2 1/2", 1>1/2" rear coil lift and a slight torsion bar lift up front, a Downey>massive air cleaner, an 11 1/2 gallon additional gas tank, a Confer>transfer case skid plate and a welded support bar between the rear A arms.>I'm additional having Downey bore out my throtle body in a desparate>search for more power.  After writing this I am amazed at the amount of>stuff I've done to this vehicle... I have to include the over riding>theme, I want a great four wheel drive, not a monster truck!  all of my>upgrade must have a sence of utility or there worthless.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:20:16 -0700
 From: James Brink  Subject: Bio and question
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 MR. ABDELNOUR wrote:>> POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Name: Mike Abdelnour>> City & State: Toronto, Ontario>> Country: Canada>> E-mail address: abdelnou@fs2.ucc.on.ca>> Toyota (s) year & model: 1991 4Runner SR5 V6>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):  ?>> Age: 30>> Occupation:>> Marital Status:>> Hobbies:>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Internet> 4x4Now>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:>> I have a problem with my idle.  On a cold start, there is no problem.>  After the engine reaches normal operating temperature (after driving> for a bit) and I turn it off, when I start it up so after, the idle> lowly and consistently decreases until it stalls.  If I drive before> it stalls, it adjusts itself with no further problems.>> Any ideas
 Mike,
 A couple of things to check:
 1)  Coolant temperature sensor,
 2)  Cold start injector and time switch--updated parts avail.
 3)  Ignition timing.
 Also check to see if there is excessive sludge builup in the throttle
 body and throttle plate. Clean with carb. cleaner (engine off) and see
 if this cures the problem. Sometimes this buildup can prevent throttle
 plate from completely closing.
 Hope this helps.
 - --
 Jim Brink				1986 Standard Bed 4X4/22R
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician		135,000 Miles
 brinkjm@earthlink.net			32" BFG All-Terrain T/As
 Stock 4.10 gears
 Rear Lock-Right (TRD)
 ------------------------------
 Date: 21 Apr 1997 16:28:45 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: brake line flaring tool
 To: "Toyota 4x4 List"  Subject:                              Time:  4:14 PM
 OFFICE MEMO         brake line flaring tool               Date:  4/21/97
 sbever@jeffnet.org wrote:>> Does anyone know if there is a tool that can make the flare in the end of
 the>> metal brake lines?  I thought I read something about it but i don't
 remember>> where it was.>>Harbor Freight (800-423-2567) or JC Whitney (email me for number,>don't have it now).>>  And if there is such a tool where do you get it or is there>> places that you can get it done.
 I have a regular single flair kit from Harbor Freight. I does ok, but
 I am not overly impressed with the quality. I haven't seen their
 double flare kits. I do have a Snap-On double flair kit so I know
 they sell 'em. I think Grainger may also carry one, but they ain't
 cheap.
 Sometimes you can find an auto parts store that will do double
 flare brake ends for about $4 each. You gotta call around.
 _______________________________________
 Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
 Gilbert, AZ
 ryna10@email.sps.mot.com
 http://www.netzone.com/~jayk
 Arizona Lo-Rangers 4WD Club            TLCA #3243
 _______________________________________
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:58:28 -0700
 From: nickkrest@batnet.com (Nick Krest)
 Subject: Carbs?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Mark  wrote:
 "The death of Group B rally, aka the "Super Bees",
 was a depressing turn in the world of racing. Now,
 the only place they are welcome is The Peak.
 Unlimited, What A Rush it Was."
 Agreed. Pro Rally, while virtually unknown in the USA (much like off-road
 racing and dirt bikes), has the effect of making the uninitiated break
 their jaws as they slam to the floor. It used to be on every Sunday morning
 on ESPN. Now it appears that people would rather watch a football draft
 pick or something. Toyota relevance: Does Toyota still participate?
 - Nick
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:34:11 -0400 (EDT)
 From: JMAX71@aol.com
 Subject: Front axle noise
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Jerry,
 If you didn't drive it very far in 4wheel drive the first time you probably
 didn't hurt anything, unless something was broken already.
 You might try checking (counting) your ring and pinion rations. I bought an
 82 Toy for my wife a couple of years ago and after a wheelin trip discovered
 that it had the stock 4.10s in the front, but someone had swaped third
 members in the rear with an early (79,80) which had 4.37s.
 The difference in speeds you are discribing may be a result of someone doing
 something similar.
 This also happened to a friend of mine who just bought an 83, it had 4.10s in
 the rear and 4.56s in the front.
 Of course if you've owned this truck for a while and never had this problem
 before just ignore all that gabbing I did above.
 Hoped I helped,
 Jason
 85 SWB Xtra Cab, Super stub bed, 33s, 5.29s, relocated front axle, MARLIN
 CRAWLER GEARS.#OO1
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:53:36 -0500
 From: Steve Capuano  Subject: Galen?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Can't remember..Galen were you the one that drilled out your airbox?
 If so, how is it after you have driven it around and hopefully long enough
 to tell any MPG's you might have gained or lost?
 Steve Capuano
 capuano@hypercon.com
 NRA lifetime member
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 03:18:10 +0000
 From: sbever@jeffnet.org
 Subject: Grease Type For Throwout and Oil Seal Lips?
 To: Toyota 4x4 List , OFFROAD  What is the recommended grease type for a throwout bearing, and also
 for the lips of oil seals?  I've been using sta-lube general purpose
 lithium grease in the past.  Haynes says Moly in some places, but
 doesn't seem to care in others.   I've also seen reference to high
 speed grease. What's the difference, and what is preferred for the
 bearing and seals?
 Also, (yeah, I know I'm meticulus):
 1.  If lithium grease gets on an oil seal, can it just be wiped off
 and moly applied for assembly?  I've heard mixing them is not a good
 idea.
 2.  Will cleaning an oil seal with brake cleaner damage it?
 Sorry for the novice questions,
 Scott
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 22:54:04 -0700 (PDT)
 From: "J. Chacon"  Subject: IFS
 To: TLCA  Any of you IFS folks out there know if the IFS front end of an 88 is the
 same as a 91 front end. I have the oppertunity to purchase an entire
 front end that was cut off of an 88. Does anyone know if the axle shafts,
 half shafts, stearing linkage exc. are the same lengths. I am not sure,
 but I was under the impression that the length from hub to hub on the
 older toy 88 was shorter, or is that only on the older solid axle trucks?
 Any advice will be appreciated: Joe
 PS. I want the front for spare parts (axles, diff, stearing linkage, Idler
 arm, exc.)
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 00:10:41 -0500
 From: "F. Torres"  Subject: Knock Sensor trouble
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 The Knock Sensor on my 90 v6 4runner is bad.
 My check engine light came on. I ran a diagnostic
 and came up with code#52,(knock sensor) .  I took it in
 to my dealer, they told me it would be a very expensive
 repair, since it is located on the block right in the middle,
 under all the intake stuff.  My options are to fix it $$$$$ or
 live with it.  Will the engine preform like this ?  Can I realy
 live with this condition, if so can I bi-pass this sensor so my
 check engine light won't come on?
 Some background:   This engine has a new block ,1200 miles old,
 the intake system, fuel injectors, throttle body etc. have been cleaned
 and are as good as new.  The tech at the dealer also told me he could
 not set the timing because the throttle position sensor was bad.
 Otherwise it runs ok, gas mileage is fair for city driving, around
 15mpg .
 Any insight will be a big help.
 Frank Torres
 Cedar Park, Texas
 85 Longbed
 90 4Runner
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:04:33 -0600
 From: Herman Snodgrass  Subject: lsd?
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 What the heck is an LSD?  The best idea I have is that it is like a
 part-time locker.  Is this right?  'Cause the only other lsd I know of makes
 people see wierd colors on the ceiling of a pitch-black room.
 thanks
 -Herman Snodgrass
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:49:38 -0500
 From: Galen Sinkey  Subject: lsd?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 LSD is an acronym for Limited Slip Differential.
 At 06:04 PM 4/21/97 -0600, you wrote:>What the heck is an LSD?  The best idea I have is that it is like a>part-time locker.  Is this right?  'Cause the only other lsd I know of makes>people see wierd colors on the ceiling of a pitch-black room.>        thanks>                -Herman Snodgrass>>>> ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 23:54:43 -0400 (EDT)
 From: JMAX71@aol.com
 Subject: MARLIN CRAWLER
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Hey, if you havn't seen it yet, Marlin is now on the web.
 You can check out his page at www.4x4now.com/4wstoymc.htm.
 It's kind of a small page, but has some good info, except the end when it
 says"for more info call MARVIN"
 Oh well can't get it right all the time, his last name must have psyched them
 out.
 By the way did you know that the Marlin Crawler Dual T-Case main shaft is
 300,000ths thicker at it's smallest point, than the JP Eater.
 And there have been no mini truck gear set failures....at all!
 Pretty good track record.
 Jason
 85 SWB, Xtra Cab, Super Stub Bed, 33s, 5.29s, MARLIN CRAWLER GEAR SET #0001.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 06:18:54 -0400
 From: seth45@juno.com (Seth D Lavinder)
 Subject: My truck
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 My truck has acted funny ever since its oil change here about three days
 ago.
 It seems like it is idling  louder, and like its a little sluggish.
 It is sort of bothering me!
 On another note,   I am also having another problem with the brakes.  I
 think that it is the rotors.  (Not sure! PLEASE EDUCATE ME)  When going
 about 50MPH , I push the clutch in and slowly start in on the brake.  The
 WHOLE FRONT END starts a violent SHIMMY.
 When I got my truck 2 months ago, it was in BETTER than show room
 condition.  It would probably have came out ahead of a new tacoma in an
 inspection.
 Now I am having trouble.
 YES I have had it in the woods but I was not hard enough on it to cause
 this kind of trouble.
 Granted that this was the FIRST stick shift that I have ever drove.   I
 didnt think that the three days of driving that it took me to learn the
 clutch would wear it out.  But yesterday I took it down to the local
 mechanic and let him drive it and it said that the pressure plate and fly
 wheel would have to be replaced soon.
 This sounds like crap to me,  I thought that my little Toyota was
 supposed to out last and be a better vehicle than the competition.  Is
 this guy wrong or is my little Toy doing me dirty already?
 I was expecting the norm,  you know  Keeping all the fluids changed,
 keeping everything greased, and keeping all the filters changed.  But
 having clutch problems and rotors all ready.  What going on,  Am I doing
 something wrong??????????
 Seth Lavinder, Amateur Radio Station KB8OKH
 1993 Toyota 4X4 Regular Cab Short Bed
 22R 2.4L 4-Cyl Pickup
 TOYOTA -  I LOVE WHAT YOU DO FOR ME
 http://www.wvinter.net/~seth
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 97 15:42:56 CST
 From: "Brian Gallus"  Subject: Parts for sale.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 If anyone is interested, I'm trying to get rid of a number of items
 from my 4Runner.
 I've got the following:
 4:30 gears, perfect shape
 4:88 IFS - new in box
 Rear quarter panels - factory Toyota.  New in box.
 Alloy wheels with caps and lugs.
 Draw-tite receiver hitch 86-89 (?) 4Runner
 Rt front fender
 Tailgate - no glass, but no rust either.  Small dent.
 I'm also selling my 86 Runner Deluxe (Don't worry, it's been replaced
 already!). It's got an Automatic tranny and CD changer - other than
 that, it's in nice shape and pretty standard.
 Drop me a note if you're interested in anything.
 Thanks,
 Brian Gallus
 bgallus@dttus.com
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:19:21 +0000
 From: Dylan Keon & Karen Levy  Subject: PCV
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Scott Wilson wrote:> Good luck Matt!  :)  I still have a dime size scar on the back of my> hand from when I did mine.  I managed to get mine out with a long (like> 8-10") pair of needle nose pliers, and a long screw driver.  I> disconnected a mounting bracket, and ALL the hoses in the way (be sure> you get 'em back in the right spot.)  :b>> Then I got a good hold of the PCV with the pliers, and used the screw> driver as a lever to put pressure on the pliers to pop that sucker out.
 Mine was also a pain to remove, I tried slip-joint pliers and a claw hammer.
 I had my valve cover off since I was adjusting the valves, and I think that
 helped as far as leverage and position.  What I did was place the valve cover
 on a clean surface (gasket side down), stood on it, and used the claw end of
 the hammer with a small block of wood under it to pry on the PCV valve.  This
 eventually worked, but took awhile!  You should probably replace the PCV
 valve gasket also...mine was old, hard, cracked, and leaking, and was
 probably the reason I had such a hard time removing the valve.  The new
 gasket makes the valve easier to install and remove.  Good luck.
 Dylan Keon
 1986 22RE SR5 4WD longbed, 171K
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 21:48:51 -0700
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: PCV
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Dylan Keon & Karen Levy wrote:>> Mine was also a pain to remove, I tried slip-joint pliers and a claw hammer.> I had my valve cover off since I was adjusting the valves, and I think that> helped as far as leverage and position.  What I did was place the valve cover> on a clean surface (gasket side down), stood on it, and used the claw end of> the hammer with a small block of wood under it to pry on the PCV valve.  This> eventually worked, but took awhile!  You should probably replace the PCV> valve gasket also...mine was old, hard, cracked, and leaking, and was> probably the reason I had such a hard time removing the valve.  The new> gasket makes the valve easier to install and remove.  Good luck.>> Dylan Keon> 1986 22RE SR5 4WD longbed, 171K
 Actually ours are MUCH more difficlut to remove, we were talking about
 PCV on the 3.0 V6. The entire intake manifold must be removed to get the
 right valve cover off due to clearance and whatnot.  I don't have a clue
 as to why they didn't arrange the engine so the PCV was in the other
 valve cover.  Maybe Jim has an idea.?
 Scott
 - --
 Scott A. Wilson            __o          __o          __o         __o
 Santa Clara, CA          _'\<,_       _'\<,_       _'\<,_      _'\<,_
 swilson@pacbell.net     (_)' (_)     (_)' (_)     (_)' (_)    (_)' (_)
 http://users.uniserve.com/~rcomber/scottw/scottw.htm
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 03:13:02 +0000
 From: sbever@jeffnet.org
 Subject: Pilot Bearing Hydraulic-Out Worked
 To: Toyota 4x4 List  I used a 5/16 craftsman 1/4" drive socket coupled with the 3/8" to
 1/4" adapter (to plug the socket hole), although the socket seemed a
 little loose to work at first inspection. The trick seemed to be to
 really make sure the crank was packed, and the *socket* too.
 It took about 5 full seats of the socket to pull it completely out.
 After each full drive in of the socket, the bearing will pull out only
 about 1/16" to 1/8".  Repack the crank and the socket each time.
 Only took about 15 minutes after gathering all the parts and prepping
 the crank.
 BTW, looks like Daikon clutch kits come with the OEM bearings (Nakki,
 I think).  The disc springs are heavier duty than the Aisin disc I
 pulled, and it is plenty thick.  The pressure plate fingers look
 perhaps 1/64" less thick.
 Scott
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 97 21:18:10 -0600
 From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
 Subject: Slip Joint Play...
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I think I already know the answer to this one, but I'll ask anyways... tonight
 when I was trying to diagnose a vibration problem in my rear, I found that the
 slip joint has play in it... not rotationally, but I can actually move the shaft
 up & down a bit, and see the 2 pieces moving.... My guess is that it's time for
 a new slip joint.  Anyone know how much one costs?  I can't believe that the
 people who did the driveshaft lengthening could have overlooked it - It seemed
 fine when the joint was totally compressed (probably since it was using splines
 that hardly get used?)
 Also, is there supposed to be any play on the output flange of the transfer
 case??? (this might just be because of the driveshaft... I think there might be
 a tiny bit.)
 - - Brian
 (looking forward to the day that I can take the truck over 55 without shaking my
 teeth out!!!)
 P.S. I was cleaning the grage, and came across the following parts that I no
 longer need Make an offer and it's yours (parts in Kansas City):
 22R head / intake/carb (in excellent shape - head is real clean)
 22R air filter housing
 '84-88 RF Fender (good)
 '84-88 L Door shell (good)
 '84-?? Radiator ok shape (didn't leak when removed, but has some soft fins)
 (also '85 chevy a/c rotary compressor, 10SI alt., P/S pump, Real Good Computer
 controlled Q-jet and Computer - from donor vehicle)
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 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:47:43 -0400 (EDT)
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 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:58:33 -0700
 From: nickkrest@batnet.com (Nick Krest)
 Subject: SUVs
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Greg Francis  wrote:
 "What about 'Rovers? My brother just bought
 a D90 and it is pretty stout. I'd also love
 to try out a Disco."
 Defenders don't count; not enough creature comforts to qualify in my book.
 For a rolling pre-run party, you need:
 - 1 rented 4-door 4wd vehicle with all the insurance you can buy;
 - 2 12V plug-in coolers;
 - "Skillfully acquired" official door stickers and parking
 permits from any govt agency;
 - Moronic bobble-head dolls or something like that to annoy
 other vehicles;
 - 4+ people who laugh at the stupidest jokes imaginable;
 - GPS receiver, laptop, cell or satellite phone, camcorder,
 cameras, etc.
 With this equipment, you will need to cover at least 300 miles a day, none
 of it paved, and not strangle each other. The Montero has the most room and
 the plushest ride for such duties. If I were BUYING, tho, it'd be an FJ80
 first.
 Sorry for the tangent.
 - Nick
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 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 03:05:29 +0000
 From: sbever@jeffnet.org
 Subject: Torque Specs Needed
 To: Toyota 4x4 List  Does anyone know the torque specs for the front tranny bearing
 retainer on an 88 4Runner 5 speed transmission with a 22RE 4 cylinder
 motor (I think it's a G57 tranny) and the motor rear main oil seal
 retainer?  My haynes doesn't list either of them.
 8MM specs dictate about 15 ft/lbs. Haynes lists 69 inch lbs. for
 similar sized bolts (6 cylinder rear main seal retainer).  This is
 only about 6 ft/lbs.  Seems too small.
 TIA,
 Scott
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 Date: 21 Apr 1997 16:33:12 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: transmissions
 To: "Toyota 4x4 List"  Subject:                              Time:  4:20 PM
 OFFICE MEMO          transmissions                        Date:  4/21/97
 sysop  wrote:>Does anyone know if there are any differences between the 1983 tranny and a>1984 or 85 tranny? I understand the later models hold up better. But if>they require major modifications to install is it worth it?
 Starting in late 1983, Toyota went back to the removable bellhousing.
 Also, some time in 1984 they ugraded to the larger bearing in ther front
 cluster. 1985 and newer models are the best of those years.>The truck cranks fine(22R carb) but will not idle until the engine temp is>normal operating temp. and you kill the engine and let sit for 30 sec. to 5>min, then when you crank it up idles just fine.
 Could it be a sticky choke?.....I can't remember how they're set up........
 _______________________________________
 Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
 Gilbert, AZ
 ryna10@email.sps.mot.com
 http://www.netzone.com/~jayk
 Arizona Lo-Rangers 4WD Club            TLCA #3243
 _______________________________________
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 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 21:38:22 -0700
 From: James Brink  Subject: transmissions
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 One other problem I have is a strange one...
 The truck cranks fine(22R carb) but will not idle until the engine temp
 is normal operating temp. and you kill the engine and let sit for 30
 sec. to 5 min, then when you crank it up idles just fine.
 Any thought greatly appreciated
 Steve
 Is the choke functioning properly? i.e., does the choke plate shut when
 the accelerator pedal is depressed on a cold engine? Sometimes the choke
 plates gum up and do not close. Also, check the choke linkage.  A few
 shots of carb. cleaner (spray) will take care of these problems. Fast
 idle O.K.? Should be set to about 2,500 rpm with the choke pull-off
 (diaphram on back of carb.)and EGR vacuum lines disconnected and
 plugged. Check the idle speed setting as well (700 rpm).
 - --
 Jim Brink				1986 Standard Bed 4X4/22R
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician		135,000 Miles
 brinkjm@earthlink.net			32" BFG All-Terrain T/As
 Stock 4.10 gears
 Rear Lock-Right (TRD)
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