Toy4x4 Digest          Mon, 20 Jan 97 00:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue  46
 Today's Topics:
 '83 4x4 for sale
 '89 4runner
 14" Rear Shock Travel
 5" Skyjacker Rear Springs
 93 4runner C.C. light blinks
 Bio (3 msgs)
 engine comparisons?
 Horrible noise in front end.
 IGNITION SYSTEMS
 misc 4runner question
 Rusty '85 Extra-Cab Frame
 Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Toy Transmission
 Travel versus Break Line Length
 Wanted: FJ-60 or 62
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:54:55 EST
 From: mjcc@lehigh.edu (MICHAEL JOSEPH CARI)
 Subject: '83 4x4 for sale
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 For Sale: 1983 shortbed SR5 4x4 toyota Truck
 New brakes, rotors, wheel bearings, kingpin bearings, oil seals
 rebuilt carb., new exhaust (stock), new starter.
 3" body lift, re-arched springs, Rancho RS5000 shocks.
 good tires, 110k miles on truck,
 some rust on bed, mechanically solid.
 This truck is a great solid front axle truck for someone who wants a
 project four wheeler, or for someone who is just starting out with
 toyotas, and want a reliable truck.  Only selling because I need the
 money for a LandCruiser.
 Truck is in Eastern Pennsylvania - North of Philly
 Michael Cari - (610) 395 -3478 or e-mail mjcc@lehigh.edu
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 Date: 20 Jan 1997 02:39:24 -0000
 From: "marc larson"  Subject: '89 4runner
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I am looking at a 89 4runner to possibly buy,the owner wants $6000 for it.it has
 a 5spd, 22re motor,new intereior,and the hardtop doesn't leak and looks in
 perfect condition.it has a 3in. body lift,with brand new 33x12.50 tires.also,it
 has 175,000 miles on it.It also has nerf bars,brush guard and a rear double
 tube bumper.please let me know is this sounds like a good deal.
 thanks,
 Marc Shirah, a proud owner of a 95 tacoma 4x4
 (P.S.=the tacoma is for sale,I'm 16 and since i got a speeding ticket,my
 insurance went up and I can barely afford the truck payment and insurance
 payment.The tacoma has a 4banger/autotranny,reg. cab,black,chrome
 package,31x10.50 BFG's.asking 17,500,have to make the payoff on it,11,000
 miles,oil changed every 3000,have the papers to prove it.e-mail me at
 mudding@hotmail.com for further information)
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 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:59:07 -0600
 From: Steven Benson  Subject: 14" Rear Shock Travel
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Do you guys have any pics of this fabrication?
 Jay Kopycinski wrote:
 Jack and I have fabricated new rear upper mounts to run 14" travel
 9012s. Granted, no aftermarket Toyota rear spring has sufficient
 length to use all that shock travel. This is why we have decided
 to swap to longer rear springs to gain more droop capability.
 ______________________________________________
 Steven Benson
 '85 Toy X-Cab | MNTOYX4 | MN4WDA | TLCA #4835
 http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4
 mailto:toyx4@winternet.com
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 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:46:31 -0600
 From: Steven Benson  Subject: 5" Skyjacker Rear Springs
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Please expound. I am now running my second set of these springs. My
 first were on a V8 equipped '83 Shortbox with a heavy NP203 transfer
 case. The ride was excellent. The ride in my Extra-Cab leaves much to be
 desired.
 Since you have an Extra-Cab, your set-up would be a great place to
 start. Which leaves should I remove? etc
 Jack Alford wrote:
 For the money you can't go wrong with just getting a set of rear
 skyjacker 5" springs, then play with the leaves to get the lift/
 stiffness you want ...
 ______________________________________________
 Steven Benson
 '85 Toy X-Cab | MNTOYX4 | MN4WDA | TLCA #4835
 http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4
 mailto:toyx4@winternet.com
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:16:18 -0600 (CST)
 From: dicker@flash.net (Keith Dicker)
 Subject: 93 4runner C.C. light blinks
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 The Cruise control will "kick out" and the light will flash when the
 vehicle speed drops to more than 10 MPH below the set speed (usually on
 hill climbs). Simply turn off the CC and turn it on again and it will work
 normally.
 Keith
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:19:27 -0500
 From: "John A. Swingle"  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4 > Name: John Swingle>> City & State: Falls Church, Virginia>> Country:USA>> E-mail address:jswingle@erols.com>> Toyota (s) year & model:84 4X4 Extra Cab>> Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):Not yet.>> Age:33>> Occupation:Proj Mgr- Economist>> Marital Status:Single>> Hobbies:Cars, bikes, trucks!  Your basic outside toys.>> How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:Searching the Web.>> General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:I am lucky enough to work part time for a friend of mine that does all kinds of custom work on
 classic cars etc.  He just dropped his 96 Chext Tahoe 4X4.  I told him
 to lift it!  I lifted my toy 6 inches (3 inch body - 3 inch suspension)
 and put Super Swamper 33X12 Thornbirds on it about 45,000 miles ago.  I
 can not wear these tires out.  Highly recommended for longevity but also
 very loud!
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 09:38:59 +0000
 From: Dean  Miller  Subject: Bio
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Name: Dean Miller
 City & State: Terrace, British Columbia
 Country: Canada
 E-mail address: dmiller@kermode.net
 Toyota (s) year & model: 1987 X-tra cab 4X4
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
 Age: 28
 Occupation: Fisheries Technician
 Marital Status: Married (1 yr)
 Hobbies: 4-wheelin, truck camping, Toyota repair of course, and recently
 home          renovations. Too cold up here (-20 C) for favorite hobbies
 right now.
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: offroad.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 Toyota is lifted about 3" (2" suspension & 1" body) and has 31" tires, gears
 are all stock until I can afford 33" tires & gears at the same time. It has
 290,000km (180,000mi) however I rebuilt the engine after 220,000km but only
 because I stripped a spark plug hole, tried to cram it back in the hole, and
 a few weeks later shot the plug almost through the hood. Truck and myself
 were originally from Nova Scotia (East Coast) so the toy is sporting lots of
 rust holes but are mostly covered up by fiberglass and a Tremclad spray can
 paint job. Truck actually looks really good considering pieces of the box
 were about to rust right off and the fenders had holes.
 Dean
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:10:50 EST
 From: gdhaus@juno.com (David A Haus)
 Subject: Bio
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:35:11 -1000
 Toy4x4-Request writes:>Personal Bio Info>>POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>Name:David Haus>>City & State:Davenport, IA>>Country:USA>>E-mail address:gdhaus@juno.com>>Toyota (s) year & model:'92 truck, '98 4Runner(Hopefully)>>Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):N>>Age:33>>Occupation:Photo Lab Tech.>>Marital Status:
 m>>Hobbies:camping, x-country skiing, sailing>>How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:>Yahoo search>General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:>> ------------------------------
 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:49:35 -0500
 From: elkins@.mis.net (Sean Elkins)
 Subject: engine comparisons?
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 OK, here's the story behind the question. My previous truch was a 91 Toy
 4X4 with the 3.0 V6 engine. I traded it in 95 with 77K because it was
 burning oil and just because it was time for something new. I got a 95
 Nissan pathfinder, which has a very similar engine with similar specs.
 28K miles later I have come to the realization that I'm a truck person and
 not an SUV person. I don't think I'm a Nissan person either. What in the
 world were these people thinking when they geared this thing? At 65 mph it
 runs at 3400 RPM in 5th gear. 15 mpg is about the norm.
 Anyway, it's Toyota time soon. I know I want an extracab Tacoma, but I'm
 debating the engine choice. The 2.7 4cyl is suppposed to have the same HP
 (150) as the old 3.0 six and my Nissan six, but I wonder if paper and
 reality agree. The 3.0 gave me all the power I needed, so if the 4 cyl is
 about the same I'm going to go with it.
 The question: any 2.7 owners who also owned a 3.0 out there? How do they
 compare?
 Thanks,
 Sean
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:01:34 -0800
 From: Matthew Barker  Subject: Horrible noise in front end.
 To: "Toyota 4x4's"  Hello fellow Toyota owners.  I am hoping that someone can relate to my
 problem as it is becoming quite annoying.  Here's my story.
 Part 1.)During the cold winter months  when the temperature dropped
 below 30.F outside my 1991 4Runner would occasionaly make this horrible
 whining vibration type noise from the front end.  It sounds like it was
 on the passenger side wheel area, and you could feel it in the floor.
 Anyway the noise increases in pitch as you speed up.
 Part 2.)I make an appointment with toyota to get my truck fixed and I am
 lucky enought to talk to a mechanic who says he knows exactly what I am
 talking about because his 4Runner does the samething.  We go for a drive
 in my truck but we are unable to reproduce the noise.  I make an
 appointment to get it fixed after finding out that it will cost me
 (gulp) $522.36.  My invoice called for a "roller bearing update".
 Well to make a long story short my truck was "fixed" in the end of
 October and It is Janurary and the noise is back in full force with
 these temperatures in the teens.  I am hoping that there is someone on
 this list with an IFS toyota who has had this problem and has fixed it,
 as this is annoying and embarrasing to drive past people.
 A few more notable mentions:  Bumps trigger the noise, the noise
 doesn't                               occur when I shift to 4Hi or 4Lo.
 I am going to toyota to raise some hell this week but I was hoping
 someone else could relate to my problem.  Thanks.
 Matt Barker
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:24:10 -0800
 From: "eagle"  Subject: IGNITION SYSTEMS
 To:  I am going to ask 2 questions:
 1. What is the best ignition system THEORETICALLY for our Toyota's?
 2. What is the best ignition system IN FACT for our Toyota's?
 I invite your comments, and please mention whether you have USED,
 RESEARCHED, heard RUMOR, or been ADD educated, as to the product(s).
 Thanks!
 /////(( DUKE
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:53:29 -0600
 From: Rob Guy  Subject: misc 4runner question
 To: toy4x4 >>I have a 95 with 15k on it.
 r toyota windows slower than other cars?
 more later>>matt
 I was wondering the same thing.  I have a 93 4Runner and the 2 back
 windows roll up extremely slow.  Sometimes they even stall.  I have to
 "rev" the engine to get them up.  The front windows are fine.  Why is
 this?
 http://www.tecinfo.com/~luv2drag/
 "If it breaks, its not your fault.  It was going to break anyway."
 Rob Guy
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 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:39:29 -0600
 From: Steven Benson  Subject: Rusty '85 Extra-Cab Frame
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 The frame on my '85 X-Cab is shot (rust) and a local yard has an '88
 X-Cab frame from out-of-state (no rust). Is it insane to consider
 splicing in this frame with my own or doing the conversion to straight
 axle?
 It should be easier to do the conversion with just the frame to throw
 around?
 Or would it be easier to just splice the frame under the cab thereby
 skipping the complete frame switch?
 Sure would be nice to blast the new frame!?
 ______________________________________________
 Steven Benson
 '85 Toy X-Cab | MNTOYX4 | MN4WDA | TLCA #4835
 http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4
 mailto:toyx4@winternet.com
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:21:14 -0600
 From: Jack Alford  Subject: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 David Moore writes:>OK, should I carry a tape measure along on the trail,
 Yes, carry a tape measure on the trail.> or is there some way of measuring the travel at home?
 Yes and no, even on an RTI ramp you can't truly measure all of a
 suspensions capabilites. I've gotten my truck pretty twisted up
 with some concrete blocks/blocks of wood/ wood car ramps/etc. in my driveway,
 you do have to worry about driving or jacking one end of the truck up to
 much though, it'd be an ugly sight with your truck laying on it's side
 in the driveway ... :-)
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 jalford@off-road.com              http://www.off-road.com/
 Decatur, AL
 '86 Xcab Toyota Pickup -  33x12.50 BFG MT
 Solid Front Axle - Marlin Crawler - ARB
 SFWDA  -  TLCA #3415  -  Rocket City Rock Crawlers
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:14:12 +0000
 From: "Mike Williams"  Subject: Toy Transmission
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Guy Hinton  wrote> A friend of mine has an 83 4x4 p.u. with a bad tranny. None of the> bone yards around here have a good one in stock. My question is> could he use a tranny from an 86? or would he need to swap the> engine from the 86 also? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 This is a good question. I also have an early model Toyota ('81) that
 is in need of a transmission.  The early 81-83 SR5 Toyota 4x4s had a
 weak five speed transmission.  By design, these transmissions (5
 speeds) were prone to destroy input shaft bearings easily.
 I am also looking for advice on this problem.  Has anyone swapped in
 a later model tranny and transfer case?  If so what modifications
 were necessary?  Has anyone rebuilt this transmission with upgraded
 parts?
 Nick Krest (?) I think you have an early model SR5.  What has been
 your experience with your five speed transmission?
 Mike Williams
 '81 SR5
 5' lift
 35 BFG
 5.29 Gears
 Limited Slip and alot more
 + a growling transmission
 Mike Williams
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 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:51:22 -0600
 From: Steven Benson  Subject: Travel versus Break Line Length
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/travels/images/dr2.jpg
 Ummm, looks like Jack needs a brake line extension in this pic!
 What are you running for brake line length here Jack?
 I have been using the 5"-6" lift versions. They seem a bit long at first
 but better too long than too short.
 ______________________________________________
 Steven Benson
 '85 Toy X-Cab | MNTOYX4 | MN4WDA | TLCA #4835
 http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4
 mailto:toyx4@winternet.com
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 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:21:22 -0500
 From: spork@stratos.net (spork)
 Subject: Wanted: FJ-60 or 62
 To:  Hi I am interested in purchasing a FJ-60 or 62 in Ohio or adjacent states.
 Please e-mail me with any info.  Thanks, and sorry if this is against the
 list rules, which I can't find.  Also yes, you may have already read this
 in the landcruiser mailing list.
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