Toyota 4x4 Digest

Toy4x4 Digest Sat, 21 Dec 96 00:30:02 (HST) Volume 1 : Issue 16
Today's Topics:
20R Head Swap
2 Questions
84 diesel to gas conversion (2 msgs)
[Fwd: 2 Questions]
Bio (2 msgs)
Cross-over steering **WHY**????
Gas Mileage
Notchy Shifter
Odometer running backward
Random Questions concerning my engine swap & gearing
Spare igniter
Stuck Parking Brake
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 09:38:41 PST
From: barney@flowpoint.com (Barney McNamara)
Subject: 20R Head Swap
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
It sounds like a few of you out there have done the 20R head swap onto a
22R carburated engine. I've been considering this a have a couple questions.
1. Smog test in California - does this affect the emissions enough to cause
a problem with smog tests?
2. High Octane gas - does this swap require the use of 89 or 92 octane gas?
I'm using 87 octane in my stock 22R with no pinging, and wonder about the
added $.10-.20 per gallon for the higher compresion.
3. Cost of the conversion - is it worth putting in oversize valves or other
upgrades while getting the head setup?
4. Power - is the whole project going to be worth it when it's over?
Thanks for any info. Barney
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:13:24 -0600
From: Jack Alford Subject: 2 Questions
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Scott Wilson wrote:>1) Will the 'toy4x4' list be getting a websight where we can view past>lists as we had when it was the TLCA list?
Yes, it is at:
http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toy4x4/toy4x4_digest.html
Jack Alford
(List Administrator)
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Decatur, AL
'86 Xcab Toyota Pickup - 33x12.50 BFG MT
Solid Front Axle - Marlin Crawler - ARB
SFWDA - TLCA #3415 - Rocket City Rock Crawlers
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:20:16 -0800
From: "Locke Christman" Subject: 84 diesel to gas conversion
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Thanks to those who replied regarding the '80 engine swap. It sounds
like the best options for me may be either a 22R with the 20R head or
a 22RE.
I have another one for you. My father-in-law has an 84 diesel Toy
4x4 that he bought new. It has been sitting for some time because
the engine is shot and so is the injector pump. The injector pump
alone is $1500 plus.
Therefore we have talked about doing a 22Rx conversion. Does anyone
have any experiece with this? Are the bell housing, clutch, motor
mounts, etc interchangeable between the deisel and the 22R??
Thanks again for the help.
Locke
lac@feico.com
North Plains, OR
Best Regards
Locke Christman
Applications Engineer
FEI Company
7451 N.E. Evergreen Parkway
Hillsboro, OR 97124-5830
(503) 640-7518
lac@feico.com
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Date: 20 Dec 96 15:30:59 PST
From: Norman.Goetz@directory.Reed.EDU (Norman Goetz)
Subject: 84 diesel to gas conversion
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
- --- You wrote:
I have another one for you. My father-in-law has an 84 diesel Toy
4x4 that he bought new. It has been sitting for some time because
the engine is shot and so is the injector pump. The injector pump
alone is $1500 plus.
Therefore we have talked about doing a 22Rx conversion. Does anyone
have any experiece with this? Are the bell housing, clutch, motor
mounts, etc interchangeable between the deisel and the 22R??
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Too bad, I'd love to rebuild it as a diesel, but I have a '97 Tacoma on order.
I hate gas trucks but have no options available in a mini in the USA, only
trailer towing monsters. There are others like me who are desperate to get
small diesels; you should think about trying to find one of them before
changing such a unique truck.
Norman Goetz
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:44:17 -0800
From: Scott Wilson Subject: [Fwd: 2 Questions]
To: Toy4x4 1) Will the 'toy4x4' list be getting a websight where we can view past
lists as we had when it was the TLCA list?
2) Out of curiosity, what year was it Toyota replaced the 'truck' with
the Tacoma? Also what year did they begin making T100's?
Thanks,
Scott
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:58:10 -0700 (MST)
From: Mark Byron Carter Subject: Bio
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Personal Bio Info
POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Name: Mark B. Carter
City & State: Albuquerque, NM
Country: usa
E-mail address: mcarter@unm.edu
Toyota (s) year & model: 93 xtra cab 4x4
Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): n
Age: 27
Occupation: grad student
Marital Status: single
Hobbies: hiking, camping, skiing, brewing beer, mountain biking
How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: tlca
General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:08:50 EST
From: sting42@juno.com (Toddster J Aubin)
Subject: Bio
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
PLEASE forgive me everyone if i sent this to the wrong address.
On Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:58:25 -1000
Toy4x4-Request writes:>Personal Bio Info>>POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>Name: Todd Aubin>>City & State: westminster, ca.>>Country: usa>>E-mail address: sting42@juno.com>>Toyota (s) year & model: '82 pickup,>>Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): no>>Age: 22>>Occupation: student (seems like forever)>>Marital Status: single>>Hobbies: badminton (don't laugh), sports medicine>>How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: surfing the net>>General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: '82 pickup, four speed
(which i am hoping to change to a five), rebuilt 22r (.20), weber carb
(32/36 DGEV), 31-11.5-15 tires (31-10.5 just looked too skinny).
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 09:45:09 -0600
From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
Subject: Cross-over steering **WHY**????
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>From: Jack Alford >Has anyone ever seen a solid axle toyota pickup with>cross-over steering like most other 4x4's have?>>If so, how was it set up ???
WHY OH WHY in the world would you want to do this!??!?! when the axle
articulates, the toe-in (or out) would change with any axle movement other than
parallel to the truck... in other words - when one wheel goes up the angle of
the steering setup would change - changing the distance between the 2 ball
joints at the ends, thus changing the toe-in.... Try to fles the suspension and
cause the toe-in measurement to change with a solid axle toy... IMPOSSIBLE!! -
OK there are a few benefits to the cross-link, but they are only found in IFS
type trucks...
- - Brian
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 11:58:00 CST
From: Rogers_Jared Subject: Gas Mileage
To: Toyota4x4 A 22r Shouldn't be yielding such low gas mileage. I would think it would be
better than my V6 (3vZ-E). My 1989 4x4 X-CAB V6 gets 16-17mpg in the city and
as high as 20mpg on the highway. My 4runner 4WD V6 gets 14-15mpg city and
18mpg highway.
Interestingly enough, on a recent trip I tried to get better gas mileage by
lowering the tailgate. I actually got slightly worse mileage (or at least not
any better) than with the tailgate up. This is weird because my old 89' 2WD
w/ 22r engine showed a signifigant increase in power and mileage with the
tailgate down. My 2WD was a single cab and my 4WD is an X-CAB. I wonder if
this somehow makes a difference.
I did notice a mileage increase on my V6 truck when I filled the
differentials with Mobil 1 Synthetic gear oil. I wouldn't recommend it in the
tranny because it makes it harder to shift, though.
Jared Rogers
1989 Toyota 4x4 DX X-CAB V6
1990 Toyota Celica GT-S
1991 Toyota 4runner SR5 4WD V6
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 12:01:00 CST
From: Rogers_Jared Subject: Notchy Shifter
To: Toyota4x4 , Toyota I was wondering if anyone could offer a possible solution. My 4WD trucks both
have fairly notchy shifters. I remember someone quite a while back on the
list with a 4runner who replaced some sort or donut-shaped plastic piece in
the shifter and it made it a lot smoother.
Anyone remember this? Anyone have a possible solution? Any ideas?
Jared
1989 Toyota 4x4 DX X-CAB V6
1990 Toyota Celica GT-S
1991 Toyota 4runner SR5 4WD V6
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 21:03:00 -0800
From: jim.poston@megasystem.com (JIM POSTON)
Subject: Odometer running backward
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Does your odometer run backwards if you go a long distance in
reverse? (a la Ferris Bueller's dad's car ;-)
My '90 SR5 Xtracab does. I've driven as far as 1.5 miles with the
odometer going backwards. I considered doing all my driving offroad
in reverse, but I'd end up with a low-mileage truck that I couldn't
drive, because I'd be in traction in the hospital!
- -- Jim
jim.poston@megasystem.com
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M-~ SLMR 2.1a M-~ Not gonna do it ... wouldn't be prudent!
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 10:01:35 -0600
From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
Subject: Random Questions concerning my engine swap & gearing
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Hello listers...
As you may know I'm now on to my V-8 revision of my toy... I am fishing for
answers to the question of gearing... I ran the modified 22R with the stock
5-speed, a rear locker, 5.29 gears and 35" tires.. I was fairly happy with this
setup. I now am installing a v-8 with the TH700-R4 automatic... My dilema
(sp?) is wether to opt for a Marlin dual transfer case unit during the build up
or spend a little more money on headers, an aluminum radiator vs copper, a good
shifter vs a camaro shifter...
Basically in speaking to Marlin himself, he shot down my origional idea of going
for a 4.70 transfer case in addition to the stock transfer case - he said that
would be way over-geared! He said I probably would be happy with the single
transfer case for my current differental gearing unless I do serious wheeling -
then MABYE I should go for a dual stock 'case setup. He recommended a 4.56 or
so gear with the 8 & a dual case unit... He explained it as such - the 700 will
have a 3.0:1 1st gear, the x-fer is 2.27, the diff is 5.29, and the
multiplication factor for an automatic is 1.8 - so that's 65:1 crawl ratio -
lower than my last setup. with the dual transfer case I'd have 147:1 ! What is
everyone else running? I am planning to do Moab for easter again this year, and
want to do double whammy and pritchett canyon. Any considerations? should I
save my pennies or 'go for it' - I can always do the radiator & headers later,
but I really want to make 1 decision on the driveshaft length...
- - Brian
P.S. - is anyone running a 1 piece rear drive shaft in an x-tra cab??? Or have
any recomendations for a dealer/manufacturer
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 10:00:03 PST
From: barney@flowpoint.com (Barney McNamara)
Subject: Spare igniter
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Now that the value of aftermarket ignition systems as performance upgrades
has been beaten to a bloody stump. I have a question about a simple, cheap
spare igniter.
I was out in Death Valley last January, camping at the mine past the
Racetrack. In the morning, I was heading out to Saline Valley when my
truck stalled and wouldn't restart. Finding no spark to be the problem,
and broken wires not the problem, we set off for new parts. Well, the
igniter turns out to be factory-only, according to local (within 100 miles)
part shops. The closest dealer is in Las Vegas (200 miles), parts were $300.
I bought everything coil, magnetic pickup, and igniter, and drove back to
the truck. 400 mile round trip, rental car, very helpful campers who took
me the first 100 miles to the parts shop and car rental agency. I replaced
parts one at a time, but got no spark till I swapped in the new igniter.
After that experience, I vowed to get a spare igniter to keep with me when
on such trips. (I now have a spare coil and magnetic pickup, as the old ones
were OK and go with me.) I still haven't found an answer for a relatively
cheap igniter to carry with me. It sounds like a lot of these things
work on a 22R, any suggestions? (I kept the old igniter, and plan to swap
connectors off the old to the new in case the spare doesn't come with proper
connectors.)
Thanks - Barney
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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:15:21 -0800
From: Matthew Barker Subject: Stuck Parking Brake
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Hi folks. Ok, I have a situation with my truck and I'd like to fix it
before it happens again! It's like 15 degrees outside and I go outside
to move my truck. I start it up, go to put the parking brake in, no go!
Won't budge an inch! I push and I push but it just wont go! Finally
after letting the truck warm up for about 10 minutes it went and the
brake light went off. Can I fix this? Anyone? It seems the simple
solution would be to grease it, but where? I don't know where it's
getting stuck. Can anyone help me out on this? Thanks.
Matt Barker.
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