Toyota 4x4 digest:       Monday, April 27 1998       Volume 01 : Number 829
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 funny pic
 duh!
 Re: Front Dif Plug
 Re: rs9000s settings
 Re: snorkel-ish building
 Re: snorkel-ish building
 Q's:bed storage boxe
 Shock Length
 6 point sockets
 22R VS.22RE
 Re: I seized my engine!
 bottoming out shocks
 Re: Front Dif Plug
 Bio
 Line Locks (was Diff Lockers front)
 Grammar and Spelling
 Re: Grammar and Spelling
 Re: Q's:bed storage boxe
 Re: Grammar and Spelling
 Zen and the Art of 4-Wheeling
 Re: NWOR Recurve kit
 4runner four sale
 Front Alcan springs
 AC Compressor Screaming
 oil filters
 oil capacity / cheap factory parts
 water pump warranty
 snorkel-ish building
 Re: 22R Gas Leak
 Hard Starting
 Re: Q's:bed storage boxes, rock sliders, & CB antenna mount
 RE: snorkel-ish building
 me!
 Re: Sierra snow run, anyone?
 Medium Duty '88
 H*lp with snorkle
 Re: H*lp with snorkle
 Pismo Time?
 Re: Medium Duty '88
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:00:22 -1000 (HST)
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: funny pic
 was surfing, and found a pic some of you might enjoy. Look carfully at the
 load in the back of the pickup...
 ej@off-road.com   http://www.off-road.com/~ej
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:01:03 -1000 (HST)
 From: Eric Johnson  Subject: duh!
 did i forget the URL? here it is
 http://webhome.idirect.com/~mechanic/4x4/jeep.jpg
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:12:54 -0700 (MST)
 From: Paul Nathanael Henry  Subject: Re: Front Dif Plug
 I had to heat up the plug with a propane torch and pound a 24mm
 (or was it a 23mm?) twelve point wrench over it to get mine off.  That was
 the only thing that would work as I broke an easy out off trying to get it
 out.
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:30:52 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: Re: rs9000s settings
 Jon Brandt  wrote:>just try setting those puppies on 5 on the street and you will see why>"5" is mostly useless, except for jumping (compensating for lack of travel)>It rides similar to a J***, it shakes the s*** out of you!>Anyone w/ 9000's should do this, just for a kick. The rear axle hops and>chirps the tires uncontolably!
 Depends too if you're running single or double shock application 9000s.
 9012s are made for double shock applications so they are valved much
 better for our lighter Toys (when used singly).
 Jay Kopycinski   '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
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 Date: 27 Apr 98 18:42:50 -0400
 From: "Karl Bellve"  Subject: Re: snorkel-ish building>> How did you connect the PVC to the box?  did you cut a hole & use some sort of>> lipped piece & plastic cement?>> There is a factory pipe that comes out of the air box, I used that after> cutting about 1" off the end. I found with that pipe atached that a 2.5"> plastic pipe would fit sugly inside it.
 Isn't there a drain at the bottom of the air box? What did people do
 with this?
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 Cheers,
 Dr. Karl Bellve
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 University of Massachusetts
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 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-3785
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:52:43 -0700
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: snorkel-ish building
 Isn't there a drain at the bottom of the air box? What did people do> with this?
 It's a tiny drain. Three drops of PVC cement was all it took to seal it
 up.
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
 "ROKRUNR"
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:57:04 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: Q's:bed storage boxe
 DRM033  wrote:>I was wondering what people are using for bed storage boxes.  I am currently>using a small plastic box, but would like something else.
 I've been using a pair of 25mm ammo boxes for a number of years now. They
 fit along the bed sides between the fenderwell and the tailgate. They are about
 exactly the width of the fenderwell too. They are waterproof and hold quite a
 bit of goodies. I think I paid about $20 each for them. I painted them to match
 the color of my truck.
 Jay Kopycinski   '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:01:15 -0700
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Shock Length
 Ok so read Jay's write up on measuring shock length at:
 http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota/travel.html
 and you went out and put a couple of low riders under opposite wheels
 and now have the measurements for your new shocks. So you head down to
 you local off road shop and ask for a shock that is "X" long compressed
 and "Y" long extended and they give you that "Why can't you just order
 shocks by the year and model" look. Well after manny requests I have
 taken the Rancho catalog and put most of the sizes of RS5000 and RS9000
 shocks online. Now you can see what size each part number is. Look for
 the link off my main page. All of the sizes you are likly to need are
 there.
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
 "ROKRUNR"
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:16:16 -0400
 From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
 Subject: 6 point sockets
 Esp in the larger sizes (17mm. 19mm. 24mm etc) the 6pointer are hard to find.
 Of course the Snap On truck will have 'em!
 Try getting "Impact" sockets as they the to be 6 points. They're also pretty hard
 to break as well :)
 EWong
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:35:23 -0400
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: 22R VS.22RE
 After speaking with my boss today,and spending the day bumming rides off
 my co-workers,i decided i need my truck back in a hurry.After thinking
 it over i've decided to hold off on the 4.3 swap until i have more time
 to do the swap the right way,unhurried.I'm still going to buy the 4.3 i
 mentioned before,and i'm going to gather up all the parts i need for the
 install.
 In the meantime,i found a great deal on a 1985 Toy short box,regular
 cab.Its pretty rusty,but the drivetrain is great,and the engine was
 rebuilt a few years ago.It comes with a 4" Trailmaster lift,31" tires
 and a 22R.All for $800 Canadian.
 The problem is that my truck has a 22RE.What will it take to convert
 this 22R to 22RE status in my truck?Are all the sensor locations there?
 Is there a difference in the heads?I heard before that the cams are
 different,but what else do i need to know?
 Thanks in advance,
 Darren(DEADTOY)
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:42:30 -0400
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Re: I seized my engine!
 I figure that the people at AA will be able to tell me what i should do
 with my Toy.Maybe they have a 12 step program.
 Darren
 Rosenberger Bud wrote:>> Darren wrote:>>>I found a 96 4.3 Vortec with 24000km today pretty cheap,AA will be>>getting a phonecall today,i think.>> What does Alcoholics Anonymous have to do with your engine???> Bud  :)>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:45:29 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: bottoming out shocks
 robert bascom  wrote:>Right now I'm using the shocks>that came with the Procomp kit. How do I keep the shock from bottoming?>I'm not even hitting the bumpstops yet!
 Darren Floen  wrote:>You need shorter shocks or longer mounts.I'd go with the longer>mounts,with even longer 9012's.How much travel do these shocks have?
 Sounds like you'll most likely need to pull out a tape measure and start
 making some measurements. You'll most likely need to build new mounts
 to accomodate the travel of your springs. Actually I've seen complete kits
 too that didn't have the optimum length shocks.....relocated mounts or not.
 Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:49:10 -0400
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Re: Front Dif Plug
 I solved my diff plug problems forever by welding some 1" nuts to them.I
 also use Never-Seize on everything i assemble,a must for salt country.
 Also never torque them beyond about 15 foot-pounds.The never come loose
 for me,and i change my diff oil every 2000-3000km.
 Darren
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:12:35 -0600
 From: "Nathan Kofahl"  Subject: Bio
 Name:Nathan Kofahl
 City & State: Albuquerque, NM
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: nmyeti@integrityonline1.com
 Toyota (s) year & model: 79 FJ-40
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): Yes 7466
 Age: 22
 Occupation: Youth Pastor
 Marital Status: Married
 Hobbies: Rock climbing, Hiking/backpacking, mountain biking, and general
 outdoor stuff. I am totally new to this 4wd thing and have only had my truck
 for about 2 weeks. I have had it off road and it was a blast.
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: The Land Cruiser WWW
 page
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: check out my rig on this page
 http://www.loti.com/cruiserjoe/otherfjs/readersrigs/nathan/nathan.html
 - -Nathan
 79 FJ-40
 TLCA # 7466
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:57:02 -0700
 From: Scott Muir  Subject: Line Locks (was Diff Lockers front)
 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:18:40 -0700
 From: "Dan Smith"  Subject: Diff Lockers front
 James wrote:>A good trickis to fit line>lockers to both brake circuits.  You can use em to hold the rig on a>hill by all wheels and  if you have LSD's to hold a little brake on so>the clutches work properly.
 Dan Smith wrote:
>What were the line lockers that you used to do this & where can I>find them. Don't really need one on the back circuit as I have a>Detroit back there.
 Just to add to this about line locks.  A 'friend of the club' (not actually
 a member)
 installed a front brake line lock specifically for winching purposes and he
 swears by it.
 The not so obvious reason for this is, when winching, you want to have the
 truck in neutral
 or you can ruin your front drivetrain by overloading it.  So otherwise you
 must have someone in the truck with their foot on the brake. (this is
 assuming of course you aren't trying to get yourself out of a fix.) Being
 able to winch with no-one in the cab is just that much safer.
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:46:35 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Eli Madden  Subject: Grammar and Spelling
 Ok, folks, this is really not meant to be insulting.
 It's meant as a learning experience.
 First - the shock absorbers on a truck provide damping, not dampening.
 Damping is slowing movement. Dampening is making something wet.
 Second - a device that makes 110 volts AC out of 12 volts DC is called an
 inverter, not a converter. I guess converter is correct (unlike
 dampening), but it's really called an inverter. I should know, at home I
 get my electricity from solar panels which charge a 12vdc battery bank,
 which powers my INVERTER, which powers my lights and radios. It's called
 an inverter because it take the current that is going in only one
 direction and changes it to go in both directions by inverting the
 direction (kinda lame example I know, but my dictionary isn't here).
 Speaking of inverters, Chris Geiger's install of one in his 4Runner is
 very nice! I really like the switched outlet. Very cool Chris!
 Anyways, I hope I wasn't insulting or whatever. It's just been driving me
 nuts every time I see "dampening" instead of "damping". And now we all
 know the right terms!
 Eli Madden, N1XCZ
 Middlebury, Vermont
 '83 SR5 Shortbed 4x4 [ANYWARE]
 31" Muds, 3" Front Springs (sits level), '87 22R
 eli@computeralt.com
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:00:09 -0500
 From: Robert Stein  Subject: Re: Grammar and Spelling
 Ewwwwwwwwww !!!!!!!!! Aren't WE feeling just a TAD bit SUPERIOR today
 ;-)  Correction noted and entered into my spell check ;-)
 Eli Madden wrote:>> Ok, folks, this is really not meant to be insulting.> It's meant as a learning experience.>> First - the shock absorbers on a truck provide damping, not dampening.> Damping is slowing movement. Dampening is making something wet.>> Second - a device that makes 110 volts AC out of 12 volts DC is called an> inverter, not a converter. I guess converter is correct (unlike> dampening), but it's really called an inverter. I should know, at home I> get my electricity from solar panels which charge a 12vdc battery bank,> which powers my INVERTER, which powers my lights and radios. It's called> an inverter because it take the current that is going in only one> direction and changes it to go in both directions by inverting the> direction (kinda lame example I know, but my dictionary isn't here).> Anyways, I hope I wasn't insulting or whatever. It's just been driving me> nuts every time I see "dampening" instead of "damping". And now we all> know the right terms!>> Eli Madden, N1XCZ> Middlebury, Vermont> '83 SR5 Shortbed 4x4 [ANYWARE]> 31" Muds, 3" Front Springs (sits level), '87 22R> eli@computeralt.com
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 Robert Stein        rjstein@lawtonok.net       `85 SR5 X-Tra Cab
 TLCA MEMBER# 7321   rrbbs@juno.com              STOCK 22R-E Motor
 Lawton,Okla     rjstein@wolverine.cameron.edu   12+" Lift<2"body> http://www.lawtonok.net/rjstein/toyota.html    33x14.50x15 Mickey's
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:01:46 EDT
 From: DRM033  Subject: Re: Q's:bed storage boxe
 In a message dated 98-04-27 19:00:27 EDT, you write:> I've been using a pair of 25mm ammo boxes for a number of years now. They>  fit along the bed sides between the fenderwell and the tailgate. They are> about exactly the width of the fenderwell too. They are waterproof and hold
 quite> a bit of goodies. I think I paid about $20 each for them. I painted them to> match the color of my truck.
 Do you know the inside dimentions?  Where can I get some? Metal or plastic?  I
 have some smaller metal ones, but the seals never work quite right.
 See, I was thinking that I would use the boxes for all of my parts & tools
 storage, and also mount my air compressor in one too.  This would be
 permanently plumbed to the rear bumper/airtank.  I know the boxes I was
 looking at will be big enough for what I want, but I am worried they will be
 too big to fit properly over the wheel well.
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 TLCA #5662
 Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
 http://www.netmatter.com/traxx
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:06:22 -0400
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Re: Grammar and Spelling
 Just checked my dictionary on this one,Eli.The correct term IS
 dampening,not damping.
 Dampen:1 to check or diminish the activity or vigor of:
 damp:3 moisture
 Secondly,doesn't a invertor convert 12VDC to 110VAC?This would make it a
 convertor as well as an invertor
 Not a flame either.
 Darren(DEADTOY)
 Eli Madden wrote:>> Ok, folks, this is really not meant to be insulting.> It's meant as a learning experience.>> First - the shock absorbers on a truck provide damping, not dampening.> Damping is slowing movement. Dampening is making something wet.>> Second - a device that makes 110 volts AC out of 12 volts DC is called an> inverter, not a converter. I guess converter is correct (unlike> dampening), but it's really called an inverter. I should know, at home I> get my electricity from solar panels which charge a 12vdc battery bank,> which powers my INVERTER, which powers my lights and radios. It's called> an inverter because it take the current that is going in only one> direction and changes it to go in both directions by inverting the> direction (kinda lame example I know, but my dictionary isn't here).>> Speaking of inverters, Chris Geiger's install of one in his 4Runner is> very nice! I really like the switched outlet. Very cool Chris!>> Anyways, I hope I wasn't insulting or whatever. It's just been driving me> nuts every time I see "dampening" instead of "damping". And now we all> know the right terms!>> Eli Madden, N1XCZ> Middlebury, Vermont> '83 SR5 Shortbed 4x4 [ANYWARE]> 31" Muds, 3" Front Springs (sits level), '87 22R> eli@computeralt.com>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:14:33 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Eli Madden  Subject: Zen and the Art of 4-Wheeling
 So, with the good weather and my Toy finally running good and reliable
 again, I've been FINALLY wheelin' a whole bunch recently! It's so cool to
 get back out on the trails in my truck.
 I've noticed that I think I'm getting to be a better driver. I hate to
 sound like I'm bragging or something, but I really think it's true. I'm
 learning to FLOW.
 I've ridden bicycles for years and years, and long long ago learned about
 flowing movements on them. On mountain bikes I learned all about picking
 lines (though my truck has taught me a LOT about spotting mud depth and
 soil firmness). And for the most part I've known about picking lines in my
 truck, but I WAS GOING TOO FAST.
 I'm fairly new at this 4wd thing. I've been reading magazines for years,
 killed a used Jeep Cherokee in a month, and beat way too many cheap cars,
 but I only got my Toyota 1.5 years ago, September '96.
 Last summer I beat it REALLY hard. I put 3" front springs and real shocks
 on it early summer, and that gave me the capability to take big hits and I
 did. I also revved it like crazy in mud.
 Well, last October my engine broke it's timing chain so I decided to
 rebuild it. And sure enough, doing all that work (and more!) is giving me
 better appreciation for the truck.
 But, not only am I being kinder to my truck but I don't get stuck as much.
 I don't leave as many ruts (they don't know you were there if ya don't
 leave ruts). I can climb better then ever. I can wiggle through
 smaller than ever gaps and not dent my doors anymore (scrapes just show
 you USE your 4WD). And I do it all with increasing confidence. And it's
 confidence, not the foolishness I had before. I can tell that I'm doing it
 better and it feels GOOD.
 I can now FEEL how much traction my tires are getting. I'm paying
 attention more and only giving it as much gas as it needs (havn't I read
 that somewhere before?) to get over/through obstacles. Even spinning my
 tires to get through mud, I don't rev it so hard that they spin
 uselessly. I can tell when they are giving max traction. Could be because
 I have a working, quiet exhaust now and I can hear things better.
 I've read all this stuff before, but still went a little too fast and gave
 it a little too much gas. Just recently, something CLICKED.
 And for the most part, I've been driving where only 4 Wheelers, dirt bikes
 and snowmobiles go. Try that in a full size!
 I didn't see any signs.......
 Eli Madden, N1XCZ
 Middlebury, Vermont
 '83 SR5 Shortbed 4x4 [ANYWARE]
 31" Muds, 3" Front Springs (sits level), '87 22R
 eli@computeralt.com
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:22:47 -0700
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: NWOR Recurve kit

 That spring is a JOKE, atleast it was for me.  Me and a friend both ordered
 one and we got the same package and directions even though our trucks are 3
 years apart and have different timing degrees!  We called and they were
 worthless, I ran it for a while but was sick of the ping or backfire and
 removed it, now I can't get my truck to time right!  It backfires whenever
 it is cold and it is set to stock specs!
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 From: Michael M Gerard  To: toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 6:05 AM
 Subject: NWOR Recurve kit>Aloha,> Just before I blew my head gasket I had installed the recurve kit>from NWOR.  The service was pretty good from MIke.  Got the order in less>than a week (quoted 7-10 business days).  All the kit comes with is a>complete guide to installing the new Spring,  from removal of>distributor,  to installation of spring,  and installation of>distributor.  They also said how to set up the advance,  8 degrees before>TDC.  The recurve kit is just a smaller gauge Spring( probably from>another Toyota).> RESULTS:> Awesome bottom end power> Not much less top end (almost the same)> Tach not working so I don't know the RPM that the advance kicks>in, but very> Early ( MSG Ignition hook up, but never attached the RPM wire to>SR5 tach  )>> RECOMMENDATION:> A MUST FOR VACUUM ADVANCED 20R's AND 22R's> Worth the $11.00>>Not the reason for the head gasket failure>( I hope )>>Mahalo,>MIke>>1985 4Runner  Mines>1994 4Runner  Hers>>>_____________________________________________________________________>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com>Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:37:19 -0500
 From: Michael Woodruff  Subject: 4runner four sale
 I'm selling my 95 SR5 4runner.  Snif,snif.  I bought an 85 to ease the
 pain, a little easier on the pockets. As follows: bought new in Aug. 95,
 mobil 1 oil changes every 3k, maintanance either by me or the dealer. 5 spd,
 4x4, OEM 31" tires, cd changer, alarm, Downey air cleaner, Downey 1 1/2"
 rear lift (levels the truck, but everyone thinks it's been lifted), tint,
 Green with tan interior, 39,000 miles. This truck is extremely clean.  I'm
 not giving it away......nada says $21,975.  I'm seeing them for 19 to 22
 thousand......so, make an offer.  Will deliver if you're in Colorado!  We're
 in Fort Worth, TX.  Email.
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:44:31 -0600
 From: Tony Bartlett  Subject: Front Alcan springs
 Darren, I do not know exactly where RMOR is measuring thier travel but I
 would have to say from the fender lip straight down to the tire.
 I am able to get about 23 inches of travel.  With this travel is uses
 the entire 13 1/2 inches of the Rancho 9012's.
 You can see a picture of them on my web page.
 http://www.digitalpla.net/~offroader
 Toyota Tony
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 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:58:38 -0700
 From: "Jay Biery"  Subject: AC Compressor Screaming
 I have an 85 SR5 22RE with factory AC.  It still works great but when I
 turn off the AC, the compressor clutch screams for like 5 minutes maybe
 longer,  then fades away.  As soon as you put the AC back on and the clutch
 enguages, it goes away.  Anyone know if the clutch can be rebuilt or if I
 need a new clutch, or a whole compressor.  Thanks,
 ~Jay
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:09:12 -0700
 From: Ben Harrison  Subject: oil filters
 I was told by someone that oem toyota filters keep a specific oil pressure which plays a big part in the timing chain tensioner, and going with an aftermarket filter somehow comprimises timing chain life.  Can anyone confirm, add , or tell me if there is any truth to this.
 Thanks
 benharrison@cyberdude.com
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:11:33 -0500
 From: "Neil McMullen"  Subject: oil capacity / cheap factory parts
 I have come to the following conclusions regarding the right oil to use when
 I change my 5-speed and transfer case fluids... Redline
 Okay, so i'l need to order the Redline MTL for the 5-speed and some of the
 regular Redline for the transfer case (if this is wrong let me know).  Well
 here is a dumb question.  Since there are no Redline dealers around here and
 I can't find a straight answer in my Chilton manual help me out fellow
 Toyota owners!!!  How many quarts does my transmission and transfer case
 actually hold (1992 Toyota 4x4 22RE 5-speed vin 4TARN01P7N*******).  I don't
 want to order too much or too little, especially at the price of $7 per
 quart.
 Also I asked before but no responses, so here it goes again.  Who sells the
 cheapest factory Toyota parts (I plan getting some general maint. items like
 fuel filter, cap, rotor, plug wires) and don't want to pay full dealer price
 like I do right now (not to mention having to drive 50 miles each way)....
 All help and or suggestions are welcome!
 Neil McMullen
 92' Toyota 4x4 22RE - 5 speed
 K&N, Bridgestone Dueler AT's, Explorer ProCmp 3000's, pure synthetic
 driveline
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:31:42 -0400
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: water pump warranty
 I just changed my water pump 3 weeks ago and now the new pump start making
 the squealing noise again. It's a Toyota Remanufactured unit. They come
 with a one year warranty but what about the labor charges?
 Anybody has any experience like this. Is there a chance Toyota will cover
 everything?  I bought the water pump from a local dealership and did the
 job myself.
 I should go with the new unit instead of the rebuild unit. I get the
 rebuild unit because they do not stock a brand new unit.
 BTW: my local dealership quotes the price for the new Turbo water pump was
 listed $79.99 retail
 New 22RE water pump listed for $130
 Rebuild 22 RE water pump listed for $ 65
 Both are the same unit but they have their own part number. It doesn't
 make sense that it makes so much difference in the price, maybe my dealer
 is wrong. But for anybody whose looking for a replacement water pump try to
 get the turbo unit since it was the same part but so much cheaper.
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 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:16:44 EST
 From: "james stevenson"  Subject: snorkel-ish building
 Why not just buy one ? they retail for about $150Aus here (about
 $90USD). Contact ARB or TJM in the US. There are also a few Aussie
 retailer on the web who will send them over if you cant get them.
 James Stevenson (TonkaTuf)
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:20:28 -0700
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: 22R Gas Leak
 Michael M Gerard wrote:>> Aloha,>           I have a 22RE converted to a 22R, so I have a mechanical fuel> pump.  I was wondering why my engine with new spark plug wires, plugs,> cap, rotor, and MSD 6T was getting bad gas mileage ( worse than my wifes> V6 in the 4Runner).  After I torqued down the head ( hoping that it was> the reason for the Head gasket blowing) I ran the motor and saw gas> leaking out of the fuel pump.  Not from the gasket or any of the outlets> but from pump itself ( quite a bit I might add ).>        Did anyone else come across this problem?> I know that the older Honda Civics have the same problem FYI.  Looks like> I'll be making my local parts dealer happy when I walk in and order a> valve grind gasket set and a fuel pump for a 22RE motor converted to a> 22R( what? ).
 Simply put, the fuel pump is shot. The inner diaphram will leak fuel out
 the vent hole when this happens. Not unusual at all.
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 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:29:12 EDT
 From: JC VR 4  Subject: Hard Starting
 Yesterday after my truck was sitting for about 45 min. I went to start it and
 the engine turned about 4x longer before starting than it ever did before.
 Once started the idle was low (+/-500RPM) and somewhat rough.  Now the truck
 runs and starts fine; should this be anything to worry about?  By the way it
 is a 1993 22RE with 102,000 miles.
 Joey C.
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:36:15 -0700
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: Q's:bed storage boxes, rock sliders, & CB antenna mount
 I am happy with my toolbox, you can see it on any of the pics on my page.
 It has the gullwing doors and has plenty of storage.  Those roll bars are
 for looks anyway, I have an in-cab cage.  With my shortened bed it does take
 up some space but there is still a lot of space.  I mounted my cb on top of
 teh bed rail in front of the toolbox.
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 email - miller@csus.edu
 home page - http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~millerb
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 From: DRM033  To: toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 1:14 PM
 Subject: Q's:bed storage boxes, rock sliders, & CB antenna mount>I was wondering what people are using for bed storage boxes.  I am
 currently>using a small plastic box, but would like something else.>Has anyone used those type of boxes that go along the sides of the beds &
 over>the wheel well?  I was considering 2 of those (one for each side), but at
 $90>each, it gets expensive to "see" if this works.  Other boxes would work,
 but>would like the side boxes to allow me to fit (squeeze) the 4 wheeler in the>back if needed>>I currently have a chrome-space-eating-show-bar that the PO had in there.
 I>will be tossing it soon in favor of a custom headache rack to match the
 rock>slider bars that will go on in May.  What are people using for tube size
 for>slider bars?  I was thinking 2", 2.5", or 3" - leaning more towards the 2"
 or>2.5" tops.  Any suggestions here?>>Also, since I will be tossong the show bar, I will need to relocate the CB>antenna.  I was just going to mount it in the same place on the new
 headache>bar, but if there is a technically better location - please let me know.>>As always, all suggestions are appreciated!>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:40:17 -0400
 From: Agustinus Gunawan  Subject: RE: snorkel-ish building
 Could you give me the URL
 4Wheel Parts Wholesales ask for more than $300 US.
 And they are only available for 3rd gen pickup or 2nd gen 4Runner body style.
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 From:	james stevenson [SMTP:j_s_stevenson@hotmail.com]
 Why not just buy one ? they retail for about $150Aus here (about
 $90USD). Contact ARB or TJM in the US. There are also a few Aussie
 retailer on the web who will send them over if you cant get them.
 James Stevenson (TonkaTuf)
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:53:29 -0600
 From: "John Lange"  Subject: me!
 John Lange
 Salt Lake City, Utah
 United States
 john.tale.bree@worldnet.att.net
 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 V6 4x4
 No
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 Police Officer
 Single
 Outdoors, Camping, hiking, biking, and most of all 4 wheeling!
 Thru friends
 97 Runner with factory locker, Safariland grills front and rear, Thule up
 top and lots of Moab dust stuck on the bottom!  Me, six years of the Easter
 Jeep Safari in Moab.  This is my fifth toyota and dont beleive there is
 anything better out there.  All my pals have them, new and old, they all
 wheel! Looking for lift, tires, Conf-ferr rack and skids for my runner. (no
 pro-comp).
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 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:46:44 -0700
 From: mike  Subject: Re: Sierra snow run, anyone?> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:18:58 -0700> From: "Roger Brown P.E."> Subject: Sierra snow run, anyone?>> This past weekend I made a solo run up Eagle Lakes Road off I-80 near Donner> Pass.  Got up to the turnoff to the lake and it looks like a really neat road> to try (but not alone).> I've been up there many times, but usually well after most of the snow
 has melted.  How much snow is still up there?  There are some great
 camping spots, and also some nice trails to play on in that area.  If
 you want a little challenge, take the back way up to Signal Peak
 (excellent view from the top!)  Take the Eagle Lakes exit, pass under
 the freeway, go away down the pavement, and take the first right.  This
 should put you at a little staging area with some rest rooms.  Directly
 across from the building is a trail heading up to Signal Peak.  If you
 want to check out Signal Peak without the challenge, it can be reached
 by taking off at the Cisco Grove exit (next one up from Eagle Lakes).
 The gas station at Cisco Grove also has air if you don't have a
 compressor.> Anyway, if anyone would be interested in taking a trip up there this coming> weekend (either Saturday or Sunday) contact me directly and if there's enough> interest let's go!> I would love to go, but I just put a lift on my Tacoma, and have a few
 more things to do before I take it off the pavement.   (Longer brake
 lines, fender flares, etc.)
 I don't know how much I am going to like open diffs either... does
 anyone know if the Lock Rite is the only thing available for Tacomas?  I
 had a Lock Rite in my last truck, and it worked just fine for 5 years,
 but due to lots of pavement driving I kinda had my mind set on an ARB
 this time.
 Regards,
 ....Mike
 '98 Taco
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 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:12:47 -0500
 From: "Jedd D. Ungrodt"  Subject: Medium Duty '88
 Greetings,
 First of all, let me say kudos to the participants in this informative and
 entertaining list.  I'm I long time Toy enthusiast, with a history that
 includes an ill-fated, 2 month high-school fling with a baaad FJ40.  I have
 higher hopes for a recently acquired '88 std cab EFI - it's bone stock and
 has an incredible number of little plastic panels on the dash in place of
 options, but its mechanically solid.  It'll see most of its action in N.
 Wisconsin, where bad logging roads are about as nasty as it gets, so I
 don't see a need for major mods.  I was wondering if there was any
 like-minded folks (i.e., non-rock crawler/mud-boggers) who have any
 favorite, cost efficient add-ons to make stock trucks even more
 durable/enjoyable.  On that note, are K&N filters worthwhile?  Thanks in
 advance,
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 jungrodt@students.wisc.edu
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:34:31 -0700
 From: Ken Emanuel  Subject: H*lp with snorkle
 David,
 The couple of snorkle designs I have seen by Allen Jensen and many
 others
 who have used similar designs have the 3.0 V6 engine.  The air intake
 goes
 from the airbox into the fender.  Our 22R-Es pull air from the opposite
 side
 of the airbox, requiring a different design.  If you can come up with
 something that works and is not restrictive, I'd sure like to see it!
 It shouldn't be too difficult--but it will be more difficult than on the
 V6
 because a snorkle design on the 22R-E will take up more room in the
 engine
 compartment.
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:44:17 -0700
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: H*lp with snorkle
 All right, I'll bite, WHY?????
 I have gone in water so deep my shoes were under water and the truck still
 ran, no snorkel.  Get a sub if you want to go deeper..
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 Subject: H*lp with snorkle>David,>The couple of snorkle designs I have seen by Allen Jensen and many>others>who have used similar designs have the 3.0 V6 engine.  The air intake>goes>from the airbox into the fender.  Our 22R-Es pull air from the opposite>side>of the airbox, requiring a different design.  If you can come up with>something that works and is not restrictive, I'd sure like to see it!>It shouldn't be too difficult--but it will be more difficult than on the>V6>because a snorkle design on the 22R-E will take up more room in the>engine>compartment.>>*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*>Ken Emanuel                    Emanuel@csus.edu>'87 Xtra Cab SR5               (22R-E)>http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac75830/toystuff.htm>*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:47:59 -0700
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Pismo Time?
 My son has been asking to go to pismo so I told him we could go this weekend,
 Saturday. So if anyone can make it I will be there. The Rangers are restricting
 overnight camping and may close off the creek crossings at times of high tide or
 to bost there ego and show off that they can close it any time they want too
 without regard to their job or the designed function of the park. Any way the
 boy likes it when the truck get air born off the lip of a bowl. So being the
 dady I am I am going to take him down and play in the san like men!  If you wish
 to join us, than king of the hill it will be. I will be giving driving
 instructions to brian over the CB on CH4. So watch out. We will be there around
 11AM and will likly eat lunch at taco bell.
 Chris Geiger http:geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html "ROKRUNR"
 It's ok sand is just small rocks
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 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:00:52 -0700
 From: Ken Emanuel  Subject: Re: Medium Duty '88
 Jedd D. Ungrodt wrote:> On that note, are K&N filters worthwhile?  Thanks in advance,> I think so.  I believe because of the oil they filter better than a
 standard element.  I also like paying $25 once rather than $7 every few
 months.  (K&Ns have a million mile warranty.)
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