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Toy4x4 Mailing List Digest v1n680

Publish date: Jan 29, 1998
By: ORC STAFF
Source: Off-Road.com

Toy4x4 Digest Thu, 29 Jan 98 00:30:02 (HST) Volume 1 : Issue 680
Today's Topics:
13.......not so unlucky!
93 V-6, FREE HG surprise.
Convertible Toy
Diesel Toyota Pickups (2 msgs)
Downey Phone Number ? (2 msgs)
Front bumper (was One more (last?) fuel light commen)
Jake Brake
More back window Mayhem
New Muffler Results (2 msgs)
NWOR WebSite
r+p (3 msgs)
Rollover (3 msgs)
Speedometer recalibration
Stevens Creek Toyota (2 msgs)
Thanks ( '86 4Runner 4WD light )
Tire prices
Toy4x4 Digest V1 #679
U-joints
V6 or 4cyl? won't believe this guy... (2 msgs)
WAS: low fuel light NOW: TJM bumper
what causes oil burning? (2 msgs)
you won't believe this guy... (2 msgs)
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:12:46 -0800
From: Scott Wilson Subject: 13.......not so unlucky!
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Jay Kopycinski wrote:>> I dunno what the traditional 13th wedding anniversary> gift is, but my wife informed me that mine is a Marlin> Crawler :-) .......'course she ended up with diamonds,> but that's how it goes ;-)
DOH! You poor guy. Maybe you'll get diamond next year. ;-b
You going with one or two T-case version?
Scott 'very jealous' Wilson
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:21:21 -0700
From: James Shackelford Subject: 93 V-6, FREE HG surprise.
To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org" If you have a 89-95 V-6, check this out!
I have a 93' 4Runner SR5 V-6. The odometer currently sits at about
115,000. I bought it from one of the local Toy dealers here in Denver
back in August with a little over 100,000. Well, like many people who
love their trucks but didn't know about the head gasket problem, I was
quite nervous. I started watching this group all the time. About 2-3
months ago my truck started getting really bad gas mileage. Then a
couple weeks ago it started running rough at startup. However, I didn't
have any problems with lost coolant or coolant in the oil.
I figured it needed a tune up. Sure 115,000 miles. Well, I happened to
be at the dealership getting a cap and rotor (try to do the easy stuff
myself). Just for kicks I figured I would a service manager how much a
tune up there would cost. Well, he starts going on about this head
gasket problem. Do you loose coolant? Is your oil milky? Blah Blah.
Well, it turns out that Toyota supposedly issued an advisory in late
December about the "defective" head gaskets and they will scope my
engine for free!
Well, to end it. I scheduled it for the test and when I brought it in
the service manager told me that they would check Toyota's record and if
mine had never been replaced they would do it anyway. Whether it needed
it or not. GREAT!! Turns out it was leaking slightly at #6 (where it
usually does), it was also fouled there (bad gas mileage and low
power). I got them to do the timing belt, tune up, and alignment. The
whole thing cost me $230.00 and they gave me a rental car for three days
FREE.
My truck is running great and has a ton more power. If you have one of
these years I would encourage you to contact your dealer's service
manager Tell them this story if they give you any hassle. It's worth
the job even if it is not life or death at the moment. It's about time
that Toyota admitted there was a problem. However, did anyone receive a
letter about this "advisory"?
James Shackelford
Littleton, CO
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:36:39 -0500
From: Sheldon Gardner Subject: Convertible Toy
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>>> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:14:20 EST> From: DRM033 > Subject: Convertible Toy Truck> To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> In a message dated 98-01-28 09:40:52 EST, you write:>>> believe that a few lawsuits poped up with respect to people either flipping>> their>> truck, or the inherent body weakness issue.>> I talked with a friend about these kits, as he has installed several on> numerous vehicles. He said the kits are fine, but the problem comes in when> you take it off road. He said the body is now missing suppor is is designed> to need, and if you get it flexed up you run the possibility of doing damage,> including ripping off striker bolts and literally creasing or tearing sheet> metal. A good quility cage that ties the body to the frame is the only way to> really avoid this.>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------> David Moore DRM033@aol.com> 90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,> 4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000> TLCA #5662> Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------
David I'd imagine you could be right in all fairness the truck in question on my page was very robust. I watched him spin his 38inch tires, twist and bounce the truck all over the place for two days and it seemed to take it fine. Case in point it's still good. Now he did as you suggest have a real nice full cage that was attached to the body at places.
It was originally a show truck till he bought it off his Bro then he never washed it again:) I think it looks better with the mud and stuff covering up all the murals and such.
You wouldn't even wanna see all the dirty colored wires and insulation under the hood, ther is like PINK stuff in there as I recall:)
Sheldon
sgard@flnet.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 98 12:07:01
From: "Fisher, Gary" Subject: Diesel Toyota Pickups
To: toy4X4@tlca.org>I know that Diesel Toy pickups were imported into Canada in the late>80's but beyond that I'm not too familiar with them. I come across them>periodically in my regular perusals of classifieds and Truck Traders.>How common are they? Do they have the same reputation for reliability at>their Land Cruiser relatives? If anyone has one I would like to hear>about your experiences with it...reliability, off-roadability, economy,>repairability etc.
I own an 89 Hilux Extra Cab 2.8 Diesel. The 2.8 Diesel motor is a bit of a
gamble with a few of them breaking crank shafts (as mine did). I had the motor
rebuilt and then fitted a safari turbo charger and I LOVE IT. It's pretty
economical, pulls like a trian (very small one) and runs beutifully underwater
(with a snorkel of course). I have just done over 100,000K's since the rebuild
and have never had it serviced at the shop. Every 5,000 K's I change the oil and
oil filter. Every 10,000 K's I change the air cleaner and fuel filter. That's
it. It never misses a beat. If you like to know more....just ask.
Gary Fisher
garyf@hpa.com.au
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:27:11 -0500
From: Agustinus Gunawan Subject: Diesel Toyota Pickups
To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'" Dear Gary
Is this diesel engine the same as Daihatsu Rocky diesel?
I have the same problem with my 88 Daihatsu Rocky 2.8 diesel.
This engine are very common to break the crankshaft if you rev it past the redline.
I know that Daihatsu & Toyota have an affiliation and they even sell the rocky as Landcruiser in a few countries.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Fisher, Gary [SMTP:garyf@hermes50.hpa.com.au]
I own an 89 Hilux Extra Cab 2.8 Diesel. The 2.8 Diesel motor is a bit of a
gamble with a few of them breaking crank shafts (as mine did). I had the motor
rebuilt and then fitted a safari turbo charger and I LOVE IT. It's pretty
economical, pulls like a trian (very small one) and runs beutifully underwater
(with a snorkel of course). I have just done over 100,000K's since the rebuild
and have never had it serviced at the shop. Every 5,000 K's I change the oil and
oil filter. Every 10,000 K's I change the air cleaner and fuel filter. That's
it. It never misses a beat. If you like to know more....just ask.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:34:00 -0800
From: david Subject: Downey Phone Number ?
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Hello,
Anyone have teh # so I can order a catalog? Trying to get info on
there Downey Intake system.
Thanks!
David
rdavid@jps.net
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:22:55 -0600
From: John Vargas Subject: Downey Phone Number ?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Downey # - 562.949.9494
John
At 02:34 AM 1/28/98 -0800, you wrote:>Hello,>> Anyone have teh # so I can order a catalog? Trying to get info on>there Downey Intake system.>>Thanks!>David>>rdavid@jps.net>>> ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:15:53 -0800
From: "Roger Brown P.E." Subject: Front bumper (was One more (last?) fuel light commen)
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Don wrote:
- -> Meanwhile I was looking through old digests and researching my front bumper
options. Smittys are OK, but I think I'd like to save for something even
beefier. The TJM and ARB look great and appear as close to as stong as you
can get (just ask Chris!), but aren't cheap (Performance quoted the T-17
TJM with grill guard at close to $600 + shipping...and it takes 3 months to
come from Austrailia). Ruenel was also mentioned to me, but I didn't find a
lot of info on them. Anyone have comments? They're based in California, I
understand, and custom make a bumper to your specific year and model, which
sounds great (although probably in the same price range). Well, I like to
get all my facts and do it right when I can *;)
<-
If you are considering a winch at some time, you may want to check out the one
I installed:
http://reality.sgi.com/rogerb/4x4/4R_bumpers.html
Otherwise, I've got a nice black dual-tube SmittyBilt looking for a good home.
- --
Roger Brown, P.E. mailto:rogerb@sgi.com
+1.650.933.1898 (vmail) +1.650.932.1898 (fax)
http://reality.sgi.com/rogerb/
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:23:40 -0800
From: "Roger Brown P.E." Subject: Jake Brake
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Jeff Delzer wrote:
- -> This is probably off-topic for this list, but I've been wondering how a
jake brake works. Does it work off of engine compression somehow?
<-
Check out the Jake Brake page at:
http://www.jakebrake.com/
There are several differnt varieties, some that just put an exhaust restriction
in (exhaust brake = quiet) and some that fool with the valve timing (engine
brake = noisy). So many cool things you can do with a diesel engine.
- --
Roger Brown, P.E. mailto:rogerb@sgi.com
+1.650.933.1898 (vmail) +1.650.932.1898 (fax)
http://reality.sgi.com/rogerb/
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:19:33 -0500
From: Ed.Wong@astramerck.com
Subject: More back window Mayhem
To: mahealani@juno.com, Toy4x4@tlca.org
I've seen all kinds of weird problems with the rear window.
For those of us who write code for a living - its got alot of error trapping!
There are sensors in the door to detect
if the wiper is going - block the window from going down
if the window is not all the way up - dont allow the wiper or fluid
(I believed) if the cover top is off, dont allow the window to work
(it would fall off)
if the door is open dont allow the window to work
Its the last that can drive ya bats.
There are sensors on each of the latches (one on each side of the
gate)
If these are NOT working - you may get erratic behavior like you describe.
Ive had this happen with a door that latched on one side but didnt
quite latch on the other. It allowed the window to work a little bit and then
froze. But it would work from the key becuase the act of using the key
pushed the door in enough to trip the sensor..
EWong
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:27:41 -0600
From: "Michael Rowe" Subject: New Muffler Results
To: After reading the archives about the best bang for the buck muffler I went
with the Dynomax. I had a local muffler shop install it. I basically took it
to them and said "I want a Dynomax Super Turbo". I had looked up the OEM fit
muffler at http://www.a-1performance.com/ which they didn't have. So they
installed an oval with 2.5" in and outs as well as 2.5" tail pipe. They were
also able to stuff it way up under the truck. I couldn't believe the
difference it made in performance. My old muffler always made a
ffffftttttttt sound when giving it the juice like it was clogged. It wasn't
it was just small. Now my exhaust is a little louder and sounds a lot like
the newer stock 4Runners. It sounds good and drives a lot better from 2500
to 3000 RPM's. If you're contemplating a new muffler I'd say get a Dynomax
SuperTurbo. My friend is getting one for his '90 xtra cab V6.
Michael Rowe
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:45:42 -0800
From: Ken Emanuel Subject: New Muffler Results
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Michael Rowe wrote:>> If you're contemplating a new muffler I'd say get a Dynomax> SuperTurbo. My friend is getting one for his '90 xtra cab V6.>> Michael Rowe
I agree. I am very happy with the increased performance and the lack of
exhaust noise. The Dynomax is a good choice.
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Ken Emanuel Emanuel@csus.edu
'87 Xtra Cab SR5 (22R-E)
http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac75830/toystuff.htm
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:49:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Albrecht Subject: NWOR WebSite
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> Sorry, don't mean to start this thread again, but I just had to share> this from NWOR's web site:>> "We may not always be the cheapest, but when quality, service and> dependibility are considered, we will usually be the least expensive
I think they just say that to help keep people from being scared of the
very same thing. Just like in the Superlift catalog/add where they
gloat over their awards in qualtiy control (which they don't seem to
have very much of--I know this from personal experience) or how in the
Taurus comercial, where the guy says "I just love how they look"
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albr9619@uidaho.edu __/__|\___ |_.--.__,--;
http://www.uidaho.edu/~albr9619 :--.__|.--.|,---- ~'(__)'`(__)
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:24:44 -0500
From: Bill Scull Subject: r+p
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Anyone know what size the ring/pinion gears are in a 97 Tacoma? It's a 4
banger and currently has 3.55's which aren't cutting it with the 33's.
The local 4x4 shop tells me no one makes any, but I find that hard to
believe and am not about to pay the local Toyota dealer $600 a set for
4.11's. I'd like 4.56's as I think that should be enough.
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Date: 28 Jan 98 15:38:26 PST
From: Norman.Goetz@directory.reed.edu (Norman Goetz)
Subject: r+p
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
- --- You wrote:
Anyone know what size the ring/pinion gears are in a 97 Tacoma? It's a 4
banger and currently has 3.55's which aren't cutting it with the 33's.
The local 4x4 shop tells me no one makes any, but I find that hard to
believe and am not about to pay the local Toyota dealer $600 a set for
4.11's. I'd like 4.56's as I think that should be enough.
- --- end of quote ---
My information is that for now the shop guy is right. Factory issue 4.10 is
the best you can do. I'm here too waiting for the day someone posts that
Toyota or some aftermarket source has lower ratios.
Norman
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:57:52 -0600 (CST)
From: "Bruce Burden" Subject: r+p
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org>> The local 4x4 shop tells me no one makes any, but I find that hard to> believe and am not about to pay the local Toyota dealer $600 a set for> 4.11's. I'd like 4.56's as I think that should be enough.> Your local shop is telling you straight. However, Motive
Gear has been said to be doing Taco R&P's, available for March
or so. I would encourage everybody thinking about regearing
their Taco to call Motive (they have a web site), and asking
them about R&P sets. Another company that I called said they
were guageing demand for Taco R&P sets on the sales of lift
kits. When I pointed out the chicken & egg problem with that
strategy, the company rep admitted the problem was the T-100.
Many companies gear up to offer aftermarket parts for that
vehicle, then it was redesigned 2 years later, so all their
work was for naught. Not to mention its stellar sales record...
Bottom line - Call Motive Gear and encourage them to
produce gears!
Bruce
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Bruce Burden bruceb@isd.tandem.com Tandem Computers Inc.
512-432-8944 Network Verification 14231 Tandem Blvd.
Auto answer(4 rings) Austin, TX 78726
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:59:33 -0600
From: Keith & Christy Subject: Rollover
To: "Toyota, Mailing" What is a Stock 4Runner's Roll Over Angle? Having kept the rubber
side down, I haven't a clue. Just Curious, L8R
- --
Keith Campbell
/////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:52:15 -0800
From: Chris Geiger Subject: Rollover
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I have yet to roll my 4Runner but I found the tip over angle on my samuri
with 30" tires and a 3" lift to be 50 degrees (in the sand). No there was
no damage and I was able to roll it back over by hand, myself.
Chris Gegier 93 4Runner http://geiger.mcl.ucsb.edu/offroad.html
Keith & Christy wrote:> What is a Stock 4Runner's Roll Over Angle? Having kept the rubber> side down, I haven't a clue. Just Curious, L8R
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:25:51 -1000 (HST)
From: Eric Johnson Subject: Rollover
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
well, its at least 30 degrees... :)
ej@off-road.com http://www.off-road.com/~ej
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Keith & Christy wrote:> What is a Stock 4Runner's Roll Over Angle? Having kept the rubber> side down, I haven't a clue. Just Curious, L8R>> --> Keith Campbell> /////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\> Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum>> ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:24:18 -0500
From: Kevin Watters Subject: Speedometer recalibration
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> Don M. West wrote:>>> Isn't there a way to recalibrate the speedo and odometer to take into>> account whatever error is generated because of tire and/or gear changes?>> Yes....>> You just simply shell out $1600.00 for gears and lockers like I just did> last> week and wah lah, the speedo is right where it should be:-)>> Actually I think you can just change the plastic gear in the transfer case> but,> my approach was much more exciting yet somehow very painful $$$$.>> John> Depending on the year of your truck you may not be able to do anything
except regear. I have a 93 22re and my speedometer pickup is electronic,
and I don't know of anyone who makes a gear for this unit.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:22:48 EST
From: JC VR 4 Subject: Stevens Creek Toyota
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
<<25% - I'm almost sure everyone of the parts guys currently knows about
it. The service guys are clueless...except for Mike...he's the service
writter I've been dealing with for the last 2.5 months. And don't get
me wrong...MIKE IS CLUELESS..just not about the discount.>> Is the 25% discount is for parts and labor or just parts??
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:15:57 -0800
From: Scott Wilson Subject: Stevens Creek Toyota
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
JC VR 4 wrote:>> <<25% - I'm almost sure everyone of the parts guys currently knows about> it. The service guys are clueless...except for Mike...he's the service> writter I've been dealing with for the last 2.5 months. And don't get> me wrong...MIKE IS CLUELESS..just not about the discount.>>>> Is the 25% discount is for parts and labor or just parts??
Both.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:31:09 -0800
From: Dee Smith Subject: Thanks ( '86 4Runner 4WD light )
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Subject: Thanks for response to '86 4Runner 4WD Light
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:24:42 -0800
From: Dee Smith Thank you,
Several people responded to my question about the
4WD light "not" coming on when in 4WD.
As I had said I just installled New carpet from Perf. Prod.
Pretty good carpet. :-)
annyway, I will try to get to "solving" the problem as per
all of y'alls "Helpful Hints". ;-)
Thanks again, and when I find out what the "solution" is
I will post my findings.
Regards,
Dee Smith
Huntsville, Alabama 1986 Toyota 4Runner 22R EFI, "automatic"
All stock w/ 239,500 orig. miles! :-)
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:07:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Albrecht Subject: Tire prices
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> FYI... The local Super WalMart has Laredo M/T's for a good price and> the tread looks pretty good.> 30x9.5's were $97> 32x11.5's for $105> The tire counter was closed fror the night so I did not get any prices> other than those sitting out.
These are pretty good tires (I got my 32's from costco for 105), and so
far we've had the 30x9.50's, 31's, 32's and 33's (on about 6 different
trucks). They work great, clean out real nice (better than bfg's IMO).
But there are a few things that BFG beats them out on hands down.
Wear: the laredo's last a while, but they definately wear down faster
than I expected. Also, when I'd go wheeling with my friend's running
exactly the same setup, only BFG mud's, mine always had a few more
'chunks' missing afterwards. Neither tire is perfect--the bfg chunks
off more than I expected too--but the laredo does it more.
The other thing, is that the big spacing between the lugs let's big
sharp rocks get at the carcass of the tire super easy. Only punctured
one this way so far, but it happened a bit too easilly.
But a set of these (from costco anyway) for 120 each, *including*
lifetime mount/balance/repair and studding isn't half bad. For the
money, on a low mileage mud and snow type of truck they're real hard to
beat.
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albr9619@uidaho.edu __/__|\___ |_.--.__,--;
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:03:38 -0600
From: Steve Harron & Jennifer Lippold Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #679
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> This brings up a question that I've pondered for a while -> How come washing your hot engine at the car wash can crack it, but plunging> into water or mud dosn't?
I saw this happen at a U-hose-it car wash. Some guy sprayed the engine
on his Motorcycle. Block cracked real nice! I hope he didn't have to
push it far to get home!
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:24:47 -0800
From: Barney McNamara Subject: U-joints
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> The Toyota Manual describes different thickness clips to be used during> u-joint replacement. The ones I got from NAPA had one set of clips> which left a little (maybe .010") slop.
The Spicer u-joints come with two sets of three pairs of different thickness
clips and instructions. The idea is to measure the gap on the inside of
the yoke, and use the matching clips to center the joint in the yokes. Mine
always seem to match up with the default thickness clips, maybe these joints
are also used on other driveshafts?>The problem is that as you pound one cap in (to get the other>cap out), there isn't enough clearance to get the other cap>all the way out. In order to get the other cap off - you have to>"crack/shatter" the edges of the two caps that run 90 degrees>to the cap you are removing. This takes time and brute force :(
I find I can pound one side out, then grab the cap with a pliers to get
it the last little bit out of the yoke. Then pound on the joint itself,
with the small socket, back in the other direction to push the other
cap back through its side of the yoke. The pounding gets easier once the
caps start moving.
This is one of my favorite jobs .... My thumb finally has healed after
whacking it with my 3 lb sledge on the 4th of July. I now grease those
Spicers every oil change, or whenever I think of it.
______________________________________________________________
Barney McNamara JENNY - 83 Toyota Short Bed
( barney@flowpoint.com ) stock 22R motor ; 3" body lift
Santa Cruz, Ca. 8" alloy rims; 31" BFG A/Ts
homepage: http://www.scruz.net/~barneym/barnhome.htm
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:28:17 -0800
From: Dee Smith Subject: V6 or 4cyl? won't believe this guy...
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
DRM033 wrote:> This was posted to the off-road.consumer awareness forum. read on..>>>>>> Can you imagine this?> I came to Toyota of Dallas to get a new truck> and turn back my leased> RAV4. They sold me a 4 cylinder 4Runner claiming it's a V6 !!!> I need everybodys opinion on this from the group!> Can you imagine:> buying and paying for the V6 and discover 4-cylinder> engine a week later.> Isn't it a shame?> Please reply what I can do???>>>>> - ----> Well,
I would have thought this to be a No Brainer ?
Don't you look under the Hood when buying your new / Pre-owned
vehicle? Whats up with this?
Of course these are the types of people that car Salesmen
Really Enjoy. Hey, Bubba, watch me pull a fast one on this
Guy. I'll tell hhim its a V6 and if hhe checks I'll insist
that its a V6. Doh!
Homer Simpson strikes again. Its a shame it was associated
with Toyotas though. Pity, 'guess gullability knows No limits.
Regards,
Dee Smith
Huntsville, Alabama '86 4Runner ( I know for a fact that its a 4cyl.)
Hey, I checked Before I bought. ;-)
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:37:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Leonardo DiCaprio Subject: V6 or 4cyl? won't believe this guy...
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org> I would have thought this to be a No Brainer ?> Don't you look under the Hood when buying your new / Pre-owned> vehicle? Whats up with this?> Of course these are the types of people that car Salesmen> Really Enjoy. Hey, Bubba, watch me pull a fast one on this> Guy. I'll tell hhim its a V6 and if hhe checks I'll insist> that its a V6. Doh!> Homer Simpson strikes again. Its a shame it was associated> with Toyotas though. Pity, 'guess gullability knows No limits.
Haven't you heard of the "inline" V6? hehehe ... No offense - I just think
it's funny that he never looked at the engine at all. Even people who
don't know ANYTHING about cars/trucks - look at the engine... It's a
given.
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Doug Berger
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:49:12 EST
From: DRM033 Subject: WAS: low fuel light NOW: TJM bumper
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
In a message dated 98-01-28 10:33:45 EST, you write:> Meanwhile I was looking through old digests and researching my front bumper> options. Smittys are OK, but I think I'd like to save for something even> beefier. The TJM and ARB look great and appear as close to as stong as you> can get (just ask Chris!), but aren't cheap (Performance quoted the T-17> TJM with grill guard at close to $600 + shipping...and it takes 3 months to> come from Austrailia).
try calling Hella ( ads in all the mags) to check on that "3 months from
Australia" part. They are the US dustributors, and unless they are way
backordered, the TJM bumpers are stored in & shipped from outside Atlanta, GA.
If you mean the T17 with optional grillguard hoop, I have this one. I bought
another one (returned it though) last summer, and it totaled $516 - bumper &
hoop. try talking to them. Every time I talked to someone else the price
kept coming down. I don't think Perf. Prod. shows the hoop in their ads, but
it goes in the holes where they show the Hella lights. it is a 3" hoop that
looks kinda lika a nerf bar mounted on top of the bumper. I like it. oh,
mine is steel - the only way to go.
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David Moore DRM033@aol.com
90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
TLCA #5662
Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:49:13 EST
From: DRM033 Subject: what causes oil burning?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Someone described what it does when your engine is burning oil. Well, mine
has occasional puffs at startup. What are possible causes of this and
possible fixes?
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David Moore DRM033@aol.com
90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
TLCA #5662
Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:22:56 -0800
From: James Brink Subject: what causes oil burning?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
DRM033 wrote:>> Someone described what it does when your engine is burning oil. Well, mine> has occasional puffs at startup. What are possible causes of this and> possible fixes?
Worn piston rings
Worn valve seals
Worn valve guides
Inoperative crankcase ventilation system
Overfilled crankcase
The PCV valve and hoses should be free of obstructions.
Make sure the crankcase oil level is correct. If too high, the oil can
foam in the cylinder head and run past the valve seals and down the
guides.
Worn valve guides allow oil into the combustion chamber. Soulution:
Valve job.
Bad valve stem seals allow the oil lubing the top end of the valves to
run down into the combustion chamber as well. These can be replaced with
the cylinder head on the vehicle.
Worn rings, well, major engine teardown and overhaul time.
Sounds like you have bad seals, from your comment about a bit of smoke
upon startup.
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Jim Brink, Toyota/ASE Certified Technician 1986 Std. Bed 4x4
Manhattan Beach, CA 32x11.50/15 BFG M/Ts
ToyTech@Off-Road.com
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:23:32 EST
From: DRM033 Subject: you won't believe this guy...
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
This was posted to the off-road.consumer awareness forum. read on..>>>> Can you imagine this?
I came to Toyota of Dallas to get a new truck and turn back my leased
RAV4. They sold me a 4 cylinder 4Runner claiming it's a V6 !!!
I need everybodyM-^Rs opinion on this from the group!
Can you imagine: buying and paying for the V6 and discover 4-cylinder
engine a week later.
Isn't it a shame?
Please reply what I can do???>>>> Can you believe this guy? sad....
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David Moore DRM033@aol.com
90 Toyota Truck - 4" ProComp, 33" Swampers,
4.88's, rear ARB, TJM bumper & Ramsey #8000
TLCA #5662
Traxx In Motion 4 Wheel Drive Club
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:22:51 -0500
From: Darren Floen Subject: you won't believe this guy...
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Some people just aren't very bright.It escapes me how it would take a
week to figure it out,and if it did,he should stay with the least amount
of horsepower available!
Darren
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