Toyota 4x4 digest:       Tuesday, March 9 1999       Volume 02 : Number 288
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 CV boot replacement?
 Re: Question for Chris G. or anyone else who knows
 RE: lockright ?s
 Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup
 Re: CV boot replacement?
 Re: 1999 4Runner
 Re: Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup
 Where can you buy Gear set up paste?
 Re: Winch multi mount connectors
 Re: landcruiser pickup?
 RE: tough speedo calibration question (for myself anyway)
 Radar Stuff...
 Re: Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup
 Another Radar Post!!!
 RE: Clutch
 RE: Question for Chris G. or anyone else who knows
 RE: My custom rear bumper
 Brake line dilemma
 Re: Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup
 Re: Brake line dilemma
 Stupid question.
 Re: 1999 4Runner
 Re: Brake line dilemma
 RE: Brake line dilemma
 Re: Stupid question.
 RE: GPS AND MPH
 RE: Brake line dilemma
 RE: Clutch
 iso - 85 toyota sr5 roof glass
 RE: Clutch
 Re: Brake line dilemma
 RE: Brake line dilemma
 Re: Brake line dilemma
 Re: My custom rear bumper
 Re: Brake line dilemma
 RE: Brake line dilemma
 Re: Question for Chris G. or anyone else who knows
 Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup -Reply
 SS brake lines
 Re: Mileage Correction for oversized tires
 Re: My custom rear bumper
 RE: My custom rear bumper
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:32:41 -0330 (NST)
 From: Ryan Richard Dias  Subject: CV boot replacement?
 Yesterday i had to replace the inner cv boot on my 92 v6 4x4 pickup.  What
 a lot of trouble i had with a simple basic job.  I looked at a Haynes
 manual, THESE THINGS ARE USELESS!!!!!  The job looked like a .5hr at the
 most, I spent 5hrs!
 After taking the 6 driveline to diff. bolts off, I could not get it to
 come appart enough to get it off of the bolts.  Do you have to press the
 bolts out???
 Finally the back cover fell off and I riggled and giggled the darn thing
 till I could get the "yoke" i think it is off (three circular bearings).
 There must be a better way!!
 If anyone could help me out with a little instruction, maybe next time
 won't be so irritating.  Thanz in advance.
 "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one but some just stink!"
 Come visit me at Ryan's Toys (www.ucs.mun.ca/~p64rrd)
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:03:02 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Question for Chris G. or anyone else who knows> I'm going to get the wheel spacers from All Pro to add a little> stability to the front of my IFS, but I'm hesitant to install them myself> due to inexperience.  Was that at their shop in Hemet?
 Yes> I know they are $120, but how much was it with the installation?
 When doing a solid front axle conversion there is no charge for
 installation on the spacers, but if you just want the spacers installed
 expect to pay about $80 for install labor per axle.
 You could also check with your local tire shop. It may be easier to have
 it installed closer to home. Any shop that has replaced a bad lug bolt
 can do it. Just tell them you would like an estimate for replacing all
 12 front bolts. Each bolts needs to be tapped out and new longer/bigger
 ones tapped in.
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:13:07 -0800
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: RE: lockright ?s> I'm now considering just putting a lockright in the rear> for now. Some questions.> 1) Is it an easy install?>    i.e. can I do it with normal hand tools in my driveway?>         do R&P have to be reset?
 Easiest of the lockers/posis. Pull the spiders from the carrier and replace
 with the lockright. Put everything back together.  Main thing is to mark
 where the side adjusters are so they're in the same place when you put it
 back together.> 2) Any tips on install? Does Toyota sell some kind of>     3rd member install kit (gaskets? crush washers?)
 I've been using silicon for gaskets.  Don't really need anything else for
 the quick and dirty install.  Is there a slow and clean to a lockright?> 3) If I change my mind, can it easily be removed and returned>    to stock?
 Yep.> 4) If I like it OK I assume I could keep it when I changed R&P later.
 Yep.> 5) where is the best and/or cheapest place to buy them?
 Jay Marks Toyota or something like that...  anyone?> Is there a web site somewhere describing install?
 Probably find one at off-road.com
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:07:19 -0600
 From: "Lance Morin"  Subject: Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup
 I'm looking for a front driveshaft for a 1981 Toyota pickup. Of course it doesn't have to be an '81 as long as it's the same length and as a CV on the transfer case end. Well, do any of you run a standard driveshaft with u-joints on both ends for the front?
 If you don't have one, but know of a fair market price that would be helpful too. I might know a guy who has one, but he won't give me a price because he doesn't know what it's worth and might keep as another spare anyway.
 On mine, the CV part (at the transfer case end) is worn out and I cannot find anybody who rebuilds that part. Maybe I'm not looking at the right places. It still works, but will wear through soon enough. I need to replace it and keep this one as a trail spare or have it rebuilt if possible.
 Lance Morin
 lance@fwd-fwd.org
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:20:48 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: CV boot replacement?> If anyone could help me out with a little instruction, maybe next time> won't be so irritating.  Thanz in advance.
 It should only take 45 minutes to an hour to remove and replace the axle
 shaft. A little more if you servicing the boots.
 There are three ways to do it. Toyota has a special tool that allows the
 axle to be removed with only the bolts being removed. Ok none of us
 except Jim Brink have this tool so on to the second way.
 The second way is to remove the 4 bolts on the upper ball joint and
 remove the joint. This allows just a hair more room to get the axle out.
 Version three. I though this one up my self and is my favorite way.
 Write down the alignment setting on the four cam adjusters. Then loosen
 the adjuster nuts and turn the cam bolts until the lower arm is as far
 out as it can go. Then remove and replace the axle. when putting it back
 together remember to put the alignment cam bolts back to the same
 setting.
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:25:01 -0800
 From: Dee Smith  Subject: Re: 1999 4Runner
 Ken Emanuel wrote:>>  The new automatic> transmission locks up sooner than 2nd gen, saving fuel and> helping acceleration.  Fuel mileage is better than 2nd gen.>> I drove a new automatic SR5 V6 4Runner last weekend and I liked> it better than my roommate's 1993 4Runner SR5 V6 'Limited,'> mainly because a 2nd gen 4Runner with an automatic accelerates> slower than my old 4 cylinder 5 speed pickup.
 - ------> Yes,
 Although my 1986 4Runner gets 21 MPG City!
 That is using Super Unleaded and driving "easy on the accellerator".
 My 4Runner has the 22R EFI with "Automatic" transmission.> However, in> comparing my 1994 SR5 V6 truck to the new Tacoma, I like mine> better.  The 3.0 V6 is fine with the lower curb weight of the> pickup and with a 5 speed transmission, but I don't like the 3.0> behind a 4100 pound automatic 2nd gen 4Runner.  (By the way, a> 3rd gen 4Runner automatic accelerates at about the same rate as> my 5 speed V6 truck.)>> You also asked about ride quality.  The newer Toyotas ride a> little softer than previous generations.  I personally like the> stiffer suspension, so I prefer older models in this respect.> - ----> Here too, it helped tremendously when I replaced the old shocks
 with "Bilsteins" all the way round!
 Regards,
 M.D. Smith, V    TLCA     RCRC     '84 std. cab  / '86 4Runner
 Alabama   :-)
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:23:07 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup> On mine, the CV part (at the transfer case end) is worn out and I cannot find anybody who rebuilds that part.
 NWOR sells a CV rebuild kit.
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:30:22 -0800
 From: Steve Harron  Subject: Where can you buy Gear set up paste?
 |I called most all of the autoparts stores in my area and most don't even
 know
 |what I'm talking about
 |when I ask for the dychem set up paste to make adjustments to my ring and
 pinion
 |gears.
 My cousin sets up gears all the time.  He just uses white lithium grease
 from a tube.  It's easy to see and seems to work well.  The grease he uses
 is pretty fluid, not real sticky like spray can lithium grease.  Hope this
 helps.
 Steve Harron
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 09:39:07 -0800
 From: "Roger Brown, P.E."  Subject: Re: Winch multi mount connectors> Do any of you have an suggestions or know of a inexpensive source for> 12v quick connectors for use in a ramsey multi mount(fr to rear) that is> capable of supplying the needed amperage for a Ramsey 8,000.  The front> amperage draw won't be to bad but the rear will have to travel much> further. Also what gauge wire would you all suggest for each front and> rear.
 Call up Wrangler Power Products (http://www.wranglernw.com/) and get a
 902-series connector shell and 1/0 welding cable.
 2 - 34-902G	350A Connector Shell	$7.15 ea.
 4 - 32-902-1	1/0 terminals		$3.50 ea.
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 09:18:38 -0800
 From: "Roger Brown, P.E."  Subject: Re: landcruiser pickup?
 Paul wrote:> Hey have you guys ever seen one of those land cruiser pickups?  A buddy> of mine saw one in a book of old Toyota's and was looking for one to> buy, guess they're really rare.  If you know where I could find one send
 Sounds like an FJ or BJ-45.  Might try posing that question on the Landcruiser
 list, or perhaps the "Ironpigs" (FJ-55) list.
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:28:06 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: tough speedo calibration question (for myself anyway)> I've read about everyone's conversion factors from one tire size> to another> to multiply the speed by to get the actual speed.  (long> sentence)  My truck> came with 225/75R15 tires when it was stock, and now it has 31x10.5R15> BFG's.  I don't know the diameter of those 225's.  Can somebody> let me know> that diameter?  And when I have the diameter, how do I find the conversion> number?  I'm going to get my speedo calibrated, but I'd still> like to know.
 The exact diameter will vary between manufacturers. You can try their
 website, they often provide the exact specs. BF Goodrich is great for this:
 http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/main.htm
 (although they don't show a 225/75R15 size for the AT's or MT's).
 Or you can do the math: [(225 * 0.75) * 2]/25.4 + 15 = 28.3"
 - -KLF
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 Date: 9 Mar 99 10:49:05 PST
 From: bill miranda  Subject: Radar Stuff...
 Just FWIW,..
 The main reflective parts of any automobile is the front bumper and grill. On
 a vehicle like the vette, It's a rotating radiaor fan... it scatters radar
 energy in all directions... especially back at the radar gun.  Since a
 radiator is finned through.. from font to back to allow air flow,.. there is
 actually a LARGER radar cross section if the radiator is layed down at any
 angle.  It's all relative though.. the actual radar cross section on the
 return is miniscule compared with the actual target size.  A B52 only returns
 about a 1-2 square foot reflection (about the size of a Canadian goose, eh?).
 It also has to do with where a radar gun is (is there a lot of metal or a lot
 of power lines near the gun?) and the weather conditions (rain, snow etc
 deflects and absorbs radar energy).  if you drove a vehicle that was perfectly
 needle shaped (with NOTHING sticking out,.. like tires), and you drove
 directly at the gun, radar energy would reflect rearward and to the sides,
 with only a minimal amount of energy (1/1000th of 1 percent or so) returning
 to the gun from your needle's tip.  This is enough with the current state of
 'police radar' to render you 'invisible'.  Of course you could just build a
 vehicle that was made completely of wood and rubber,.. no wiring, nails etc
 (Liquid nails would work though!!!)
 Bill Miranda
 (aka: the angry poster)
 1990 4Runner SR5/V6
 Stuff, more stuff soon
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:50:50 -0400
 From: "Andy Zook"  Subject: Re: Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup>> On mine, the CV part (at the transfer case end) is worn out and I cannot
 find anybody who rebuilds that part.>>NWOR sells a CV rebuild kit.
 Better yet, call Six States and ask them what the part number is for the
 Spicer u-joint that fits. Although this is listed as a not-replacable item,
 you can indeed replace it if you know what u-joints to buy. Once you know
 the part number, you can probably get them at about any auto parts store!
 Don't give NWOR the time of day!!!
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 Date: 9 Mar 99 10:59:10 PST
 From: bill miranda  Subject: Another Radar Post!!!
 "(new guns can pick out a vette in front of a semi)"
 Nope.  Radar is non-discriminatory... it cannot tell who is doing what in a
 group... that's the job of the officer when he looks up, after he get's a
 warning on his gun that someone has exceeded his preset speed level.  If, like
 airplanes, cars had a transponder or IFF (Ident: Friend or Foe - military
 aircraft) then yes, you could tell who was doing what.
 Bill Miranda
 1990 4Runner SR5/V6
 Stuff, etc.
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:03:43 -0800
 From: Aaron Price  Subject: RE: Clutch
 Sorry, i tend to leave out the important stuff, i get ahead of myself. -> Its a 94 Toyota PU, it has a 3.0V6, im pretty sure the old clutch was stock,
 and they put in a stock clutch... The flywheel was resurfaced and im not
 sure about the bearings(they werent on the bill), and its a private dealer
 that I have gone through for a little time now>Aaron -->What year and type of vehicle are we talking about?>What kind of clutch?>Was it a Toy dealer?>Was the flywheel resurfaced and the bearings replaced?>Please post info to the list.>Dave Stracher>djstracher@bbn.com>>Well, my clutch finally went out last weekend up on a trail... Let me tell>>you, if you're clutch starts slippin, don't push it and go wheelin, just
 get>>it fixed.  Luckily my wasn't completely out and i could still make it back>>to town, but it was annoying listening to all the a-holes fly by honking>>thier horns while im going 25mph on the highway up a hill.  Anyways, i
 took>>it in to get it replaced and it came out to be $698.00, does this sound>>right?  It was $219.00 for the new clutch (which doesn't seem right) and
 6.2>>hrs of labor @ $64.00 per hour.  I know i can't do anything now, but
 should>>i not be going back to this place???>>>>Ignorant as Always... heh,>>Aaron Price>>aprice@metamor-pdx.com>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:58:32 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: Question for Chris G. or anyone else who knows> You could also check with your local tire shop. It may be easier to have> it installed closer to home. Any shop that has replaced a bad lug bolt> can do it. Just tell them you would like an estimate for replacing all> 12 front bolts. Each bolts needs to be tapped out and new longer/bigger> ones tapped in.
 Chris:
 When you say "tapped" in, do you mean pushed in with a press? I was under
 the impression that the lug bolts were a compression fit in the axle/rotor.
 Could this be done with a BFH and some patience? I'm curious...
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:58:32 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: My custom rear bumper> I haven't had the tire and can on the back for nearly a year now.  The> tire lives in the back, and I don't carry a can right now.>> I think eventually I'll build a rack so I can have the tire and can on> the back again.  In the meantime I really like wheeling with out all> that crap hanging off the back  :-)  If/when I go to 35" tires, keeping> the spare in the back won't be a realistic option.
 I am envisioning a 35" tire up on the roof, with a hydraulic boom off the
 rear bumper to put it up there and bring it back down. Now there's a welding
 project for ya...
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:09:30 -0400
 From: "Andy Zook"  Subject: Brake line dilemma
 I am trying to get my truck inspected today although things are not looking
 too promising at the moment!!! They have already commented on the stainless
 brake lines and that they are not street legal! Does anyone know of anyone
 who makes 3" over stock rubber brake lines and can ship them in a hurry? I
 have 3 more days to get my truck inspected before I am finished with the 5
 day grace period that Mr. Police officer gave me on Sunday!
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:11:32 -0600
 From: "Lance Morin"  Subject: Re: Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup
 Thanks for the information... I'll check into the rebuild. That's the ideal solution. Although, I wouldn't mind having an entire spare if anybody has an idea of the value. I think TAP wanted around $150.00 but they don't even have any.  They are usually on the high side too.
 Lance M.
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 From: Andy Zook  To: toy4x4@tlca.org  Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 12:56 PM
 Subject: Re: Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup>>> On mine, the CV part (at the transfer case end) is worn out and I cannot>find anybody who rebuilds that part.>>>>NWOR sells a CV rebuild kit.>>Better yet, call Six States and ask them what the part number is for the>Spicer u-joint that fits. Although this is listed as a not-replacable item,>you can indeed replace it if you know what u-joints to buy. Once you know>the part number, you can probably get them at about any auto parts store!>>Don't give NWOR the time of day!!!>__________________________>E-mail Address - Internut@ptd.net>URL - http://24.229.36.29/>>>============================================================================>Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ============================================================================
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:24:39 -0800
 From: Brian Rosa  Subject: Re: Brake line dilemma
 Is there a reason why stainless brake lines are not legal for street
 use? When I put mine on the bag they came in said "off highway use
 only."
 Brian
 Andy Zook wrote:>> I am trying to get my truck inspected today although things are not looking> too promising at the moment!!! They have already commented on the stainless> brake lines and that they are not street legal! Does anyone know of anyone> who makes 3" over stock rubber brake lines and can ship them in a hurry? I> have 3 more days to get my truck inspected before I am finished with the 5> day grace period that Mr. Police officer gave me on Sunday!> __________________________> E-mail Address - Internut@ptd.net> URL - http://24.229.36.29/>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:27:48 -0600
 From: "Brian.Gallus (Exchange)"  Subject: Stupid question.
 I know this is a very stupid question, but I'm stumped.  I cannot find the
 diagnostics ports on my 85 4Runner to set the base timing.  It's not in the
 same spot as my 87 4Runner and it's driving me nuts.  There's no mention in
 the Haynes Manual, and my factory 87 manual isn't going to help either.
 Can someone hold my hand on this one and tell me where the heck this thing
 is?  Feel free to hit me with a few comments if you must... ;-)
 bkg
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:30:01 -0800
 From: Gary  Subject: Re: 1999 4Runner
 Dee, I am using the cheapest gas I can find ($.99-$1.09 in San Jose area)
 and I get between 19-22mpg with my 3.4v6 depending if it is mostly city or
 hwy. I am easy on the accel. as well, and mine is a manual 5spd.
 With supper I found that the truck doesn't ping even under heavy load, but
 since I don't stress it on daily bases, only when I take it up into the
 Sieras, I use the cheap gas.....and from the comparisons with people
 outside the state, we are getting nailed on that as well.
 Bastard gas companies and thier MTBE crap.
 On 12:25 PM 3/9/99 -0800  Dee Smith replied...>Ken Emanuel wrote:>------> Yes,>  Although my 1986 4Runner gets 21 MPG City!>That is using Super Unleaded and driving "easy on the accellerator".>My 4Runner has the 22R EFI with "Automatic" transmission.> = Gary ================================================
 If you love wealth better than liberty, the
 tranquility of servitude rather than the animating
 contest of freedom--go from us in peace.
 We ask not your counsel or arms. Crouch down
 and lick the hands which feed you.  May your
 chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity
 forget that you were our countrymen!
 --Samuel Adams
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:33:15 -0500
 From: "Karl Bellve, Ph.D."  Subject: Re: Brake line dilemma
 Andy Zook wrote:>> I am trying to get my truck inspected today although things are not looking> too promising at the moment!!! They have already commented on the stainless> brake lines and that they are not street legal! Does anyone know of anyone> who makes 3" over stock rubber brake lines and can ship them in a hurry? I> have 3 more days to get my truck inspected before I am finished with the 5> day grace period that Mr. Police officer gave me on Sunday!
 The old style SS lines, like the ones I got, are not legal for street
 use. I have never failed an inspection because of them (atleast for 5
 years). But, if you have the new style with the spring on one end, those
 are legal.
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:33:16 -0600
 From: Ryan Beal  Subject: RE: Brake line dilemma
 Why would the SS Brake lines be legal?  They should have a higher burst
 point than the stock ones and they should last longer.   Car
 manufactures use rubber lines because they're cheaper. Right?   What am
 I missing?
 Thanks Ryan
 -----Original Message-----
 I am trying to get my truck inspected today although things are
 not looking
 too promising at the moment!!! They have already commented on
 the stainless
 brake lines and that they are not street legal! Does anyone know
 of anyone
 who makes 3" over stock rubber brake lines and can ship them in
 a hurry? I
 have 3 more days to get my truck inspected before I am finished
 with the 5
 day grace period that Mr. Police officer gave me on Sunday!
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:09 -0400
 From: "Andy Zook"  Subject: Re: Stupid question.
 I cannot find the>diagnostics ports on my 85 4Runner to set the base timing.
 It should be somewhere around the power steering fluid reservoir. It is
 either a green or yellow plug with 2 terminals and may have a plastic cap on
 it!
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 Date: 9 Mar 99 11:42:34 PST
 From: bill miranda  Subject: RE: GPS AND MPH
 Yes, GPS is inherently off due to the military considerations but,.. the
 algorithm does change.  I have never been more than 15 metres off, holding my
 Garmin 12XL next to my Military issue GPS, with the proper codes (crypto)
 entered for the day.  I have on occasion been right on the money certain days.
 As far as speed though,.. it's right on the money.  What I like about my
 Garmin is that if I program in a destination, I get absolute speed (ie; how
 fast am i going) and speed relative to target.  Cool.
 Bill Miranda
 (aka: The angry poster)
 1990 4Runner SR5/V6
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:38:44 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: Brake line dilemma> I am trying to get my truck inspected today although things are> not looking> too promising at the moment!!! They have already commented on the> stainless> brake lines and that they are not street legal! Does anyone know of anyone> who makes 3" over stock rubber brake lines and can ship them in a hurry? I> have 3 more days to get my truck inspected before I am finished with the 5> day grace period that Mr. Police officer gave me on Sunday!
 WHAT??  SS brake lines not "street legal"?? What state is this? Are they
 NUTS??
 It disgusts me that a state can say that an improvement like SS lines are
 NOT LEGAL, yet they let people drive around on those incredibly dangerous,
 wimpy "space saving" spare tires they put in the trunks of most cars these
 days.
 (oops..  rant mode off)
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:49:36 -0600 (EST)
 From: Brian Wiencek  Subject: RE: Clutch>> it in to get it replaced and it came out to be $698.00, does this sound>> right?  It was $219.00 for the new clutch (which doesn't seem>> right) and 6.2>> hrs of labor @ $64.00 per hour.>> What type/brand of clutch did they put in? You should find this out. If it> was the standard "off the shelf" Toyota clutch from the dealer, then $219 is> too much. If it was the newer TRD clutch, then it was a bargain.
 Well, it probably was a clutch 'kit' - not just the friction disc.  I'd
 bet it was a stock toyota clutch, pressure plate and throw-out bearing for
 that money.
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:57:04 -0600
 From: Steven Benson  Subject: iso - 85 toyota sr5 roof glass
 need roof glass for an '85 toyota sr5 x-cab!
 someone have any suggetions?
 called so far....
 every yard in minnesota
 pat @ midwest foreign (nebraska) 800.456.9683
 paul @ don't know (don't know) 800.627.2100
 don't know @ don't know (kansas) 316.776.2584
 toyota wants $650
 per harmon glass - nobody makes aftermarket replacement glass
 at $650 i'm ready to buy a truck and part it out for the glass.
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:48:46 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: Clutch> Its a 94 Toyota PU, it has a 3.0V6, im pretty sure the old clutch> was stock,> and they put in a stock clutch... The flywheel was resurfaced and im not> sure about the bearings(they werent on the bill), and its a private dealer> that I have gone through for a little time now
 Aaron:
 $219 for a stock Toyota clutch is WAAAY too much. I think I paid less than
 $100 for mine 2 years ago, but that was mail-order from Jay Marks Toyota.
 I only paid $225 to have it installed (didn't have the time to do it myself,
 was in a hurry), but it was a private shop, not a dealer. That included
 having the flywheel turned.
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 15:00:40 -0500
 From: "Karl Bellve, Ph.D."  Subject: Re: Brake line dilemma
 Ken Flesher wrote:>>> I am trying to get my truck inspected today although things are>> not looking>> too promising at the moment!!! They have already commented on the>> stainless>> brake lines and that they are not street legal! Does anyone know of anyone>> who makes 3" over stock rubber brake lines and can ship them in a hurry? I>> have 3 more days to get my truck inspected before I am finished with the 5>> day grace period that Mr. Police officer gave me on Sunday!>> WHAT??  SS brake lines not "street legal"?? What state is this? Are they> NUTS??>> It disgusts me that a state can say that an improvement like SS lines are> NOT LEGAL, yet they let people drive around on those incredibly dangerous,> wimpy "space saving" spare tires they put in the trunks of most cars these> days.> The reason they are not legal has nothing to do with burst strenth. They
 can't take the bending motion at the connector. So, they put springs on
 them to relieve some of that motion, which enabled them to pass the DOT
 tests.
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:13:45 -0600
 From: Ryan Beal  Subject: RE: Brake line dilemma
 Not all of the SS lines have springs on them.  Mine don't and
 I've only had them for 6 months now.
 Ryan
 Ken Flesher wrote:>>> I am trying to get my truck inspected today although things
 are>> not looking>> too promising at the moment!!! They have already commented
 on the>> stainless>> brake lines and that they are not street legal! Does anyone
 know of anyone>> who makes 3" over stock rubber brake lines and can ship them
 in a hurry? I>> have 3 more days to get my truck inspected before I am
 finished with the 5>> day grace period that Mr. Police officer gave me on Sunday!>> WHAT??  SS brake lines not "street legal"?? What state is
 this? Are they> NUTS??>> It disgusts me that a state can say that an improvement like
 SS lines are> NOT LEGAL, yet they let people drive around on those
 incredibly dangerous,> wimpy "space saving" spare tires they put in the trunks of
 most cars these> days.> The reason they are not legal has nothing to do with burst
 strenth. They
 can't take the bending motion at the connector. So, they put
 springs on
 them to relieve some of that motion, which enabled them to pass
 the DOT
 tests.
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 Biomedical Imaging Group             TLCA# 7938
 University of Massachusetts
 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 15:30:14 -0500
 From: "Karl Bellve, Ph.D."  Subject: Re: Brake line dilemma
 Ryan Beal wrote:>>         Not all of the SS lines have springs on them.  Mine don't and> I've only had them for 6 months now.>         Ryan
 Then yours aren't legal. There is a set that is legal that I see in the
 mags but I can't recall who makes them. They use a spring to reduce the
 forces at the connector. I guess one of the DOT tests is to put
 twisting/bending motions at the connector.
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:27:59 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: My custom rear bumper>> If/when I go to 35" tires, keeping>> the spare in the back won't be a realistic option.>> I am envisioning a 35" tire up on the roof, with a hydraulic boom off the> rear bumper to put it up there and bring it back down. Now there's a welding> project for ya...
 Are you kidding? Scott is smarter than that. Last time he had a flat
 tire he just called AAA to come out and change it. Let them go up there
 and get it :-)
 Please don't hurt me Scott :-)
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:34:58 -0400
 From: "Andy Zook"  Subject: Re: Brake line dilemma>> WHAT??  SS brake lines not "street legal"?? What state is this?>> Are
 they NUTS??
 I did buy these knowing that they were not DOT approved...  I have run them
 in the past and this the first time that I have had any trouble come
 inspection time! This is in PA BWT.
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:29:03 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: Brake line dilemma> The reason they are not legal has nothing to do with burst strenth. They> can't take the bending motion at the connector. So, they put springs on> them to relieve some of that motion, which enabled them to pass the DOT> tests.
 Argh...  I just took a look at the SS lines that I got from Downey a couple
 of weeks ago, still in the plastic bags. No "springs" for strain relief.
 There is absolutely NO MENTION in the Downey catalog or the included
 documentation about these not being street legal. I think I will make a
 phone call...
 - -KLF
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:33:41 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Question for Chris G. or anyone else who knows> When you say "tapped" in, do you mean pushed in with a press?
 I just happen to have a picture of the new bolts being hammered into
 position. It was done using a hammer and brass punch. It took a little
 pounding but they were using a light hammer.
 http://128.111.151.211/offroad/modifications/solidaxle/swap12.jpg
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 18:37:56 -0500
 From: Rob Ditusa  Subject: Front Driveshaft '81 Toy Pickup -Reply
 I had my front shaft rebuilt at a big truck shop called Stone HD in Garner
 NC for about $200.00 - all spicer parts.
 RD
 1980 Longbed>>> "Lance Morin"  03/09/99 08:07am>>> I'm looking for a front driveshaft for a 1981 Toyota pickup.
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:44:02 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: SS brake lines
 I called Downey, they told me that each state is different on this issue,
 but that they are not aware of ANY state that has rejected them
 specifically. They were not familiar with the sets with springs on them for
 strain relief.
 I then called the shop that does my annual inspection. They said they have
 never heard of such a thing, and would have no problem passing a vehicle
 with SS lines on it. They feel the same way that I do: SS lines are an
 IMPROVEMENT over the OEM rubber lines.
 I'm gonna put 'em on as planned.
 - -KLF
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:58:30 -0800
 From: "Roger Brown, P.E."  Subject: Re: Mileage Correction for oversized tires
 DaveS wrote:> Believe it or not, I've had many vehicles over the years where the> speedometer and odometer do not agree.  I realize this is hard to> believe, but I've seen it many times.
 Actually not hard to believe at all.  The odometer is strictly mecahical, a
 fixed gear ratio.  The speedometer is (at least used to be)
 electro-mechanical, a coil of wire spinning in a magnetic field producing a
 current that drives the needle.  This also explains why the  speedo error can
 be different at different speeds, as this process is somewhat non-linear.
 When I tested my truck after gear/tire swap, the odometer was exactly 10%
 under but the speedo was 13% under at 60.  So, I got a correction gear that
 fixes the odometer, leaving my speedo still a bit off.
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 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:02:09 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Re: My custom rear bumper
 Chris Geiger wrote:> Are you kidding? Scott is smarter than that. Last time he had a flat> tire he just called AAA to come out and change it. Let them go up there> and get it :-)>> Please don't hurt me Scott :-)
 :-)  ha ha!  In my defense I'd like to say I was wearing nice clothes
 and the Hi-Lift was at the BOTTOM of all the stuff I had packed in the
 4Runner.
 Scott
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 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:55:16 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: My custom rear bumper> Are you kidding? Scott is smarter than that. Last time he had a flat> tire he just called AAA to come out and change it. Let them go up there> and get it :-)
 Haa haa!! I'd like to see the tow truck they send to the places that Scott
 gets into!
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