Toyota 4x4 digest:      Monday, February 15 1999      Volume 02 : Number 243
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 My little web page/need Toy links
 Re: Front cv in rear, does it hold up??
 Tyre pressure
 Re: tube bending or agressive tubeular
 RE: 4runner theme for windoze95/98
 your web page
 your web page
 Future of the Tacoma?
 Re: rear disc brake
 RE: Punctuation
 Re: Tyre pressure
 Re: Front cv in rear, does it hold up??
 Re: Future of the Tacoma?
 Re: Gleoco driveshaft vibration
 Trailmaster 6" for Tacoma Questions
 Gas Gauge Gone
 85 xtra cab for sale
 Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale
 Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale
 Re: Future of the Tacoma?
 Embarrassing Story (long)
 Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale
 Sub in 4Runner (stereo ?)
 Re: Future of the Tacoma?
 Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale
 14" travel IFS
 Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale
 Re: 14" travel IFS
 Tacoma Off-Road.
 Re: front cv in rear
 V-6 into 4 banger compartment
 Re: Embarrassing Story (long)
 Re: V-6 into 4 banger compartment
 A Taco recall
 RE: Tacoma Off-Road.
 RE: Sub in 4Runner (stereo ?)
 re: Dash removal
 Downey Fenders
 RE: Sub in 4Runner (stereo ?)
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:48:07 EST
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: My little web page/need Toy links
 Ok, with the recent release of so many list members' web pages, I will
 reluctantly throw mine into the mix...
 http://tennessee4x4.com/toyota/
 I have been working on it for about a week, and I am still adding more as time
 permits.  Check it out & let me know what you like, don't like, etc.  Please
 don't be too harsh - I am still learning!
 Also, I would really like to get some links to other Toy list members' pages
 so email those to me directly please!
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
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 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:48:06 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Front cv in rear, does it hold up??> I have 1"lift> shackles that tilt the rear pumkin up, but I have a vibration off the line,> I will be installing a duel transfer case next week, I wont be using my front> driveline in front , due to installing a dana 44, I was wondering if anyone> has a cv in the rear.
 A CV on the rear drive shaft is needed if you run both a dual case and a
 lift. The CV joint holds up well. Most people use a lengthened 1985
 model drive shaft. The IFS front drive shaft uses a different CV joint
 and does not have the needed droop for use in the rear. The longer
 shackles work well with a rear CV joint because it rotates the rear axle
 causing the pinion to point up more toward the tcase.
 - --
 Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://128.111.151.211/offroad
 Off-Road.Com Toyota section editor, Album page editor
 Marlin case #103, 33" tires, All Pro Solid axle conversion
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:48:13 +0200
 From: Xander Botha  Subject: Tyre pressure> Does anybody know what the recommended on-road tyre pressures (front and> rear) are for Goodyear RTSA 265/75R15 tyres fitted on my Toyota Hilux 4x4.>> Xander Botha> Design Engineer - Tellumat> Tel: +27 21 7102489> Fax: +27 21 7102693> E-mail: abotha@tellumat.com> Web: http://www.plessey.com/microwave> ============================================================================
 Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:28:30 EST
 From: "james stevenson"  Subject: Re: tube bending or agressive tubeular>would you mind commenting on the price....  American dollars?
 If memory serves about $400 Aud (around 250USD). Will get an accurate
 price tomorrow
 James Stevenson (TonkaTuf)
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:35:29 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: 4runner theme for windoze95/98> the network neighborhood icon is the toy4x4 mailing list sticker and of> course the icon for the 'my computer' is you choice of the 1st,> 2nd or 3rd> gen model.  the wallpaper is pix of your own rig and the WAIT> cursor is an> animated cursor of the pillsbury-doughboy/toyota trademark as it morphs> into it... and so on and so on...>> for those who don't have an idea what a theme is (in windoze world) or a> mac user, linux user or variations of unix, good for you..., er i mean> disregard the stuff you just read...> -----------------------> Leo G. Divinagracia III> ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
 Man, you've got WAY too much time on your hands.
 - -KLF
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:53:53 -0800 (PST)
 From: TrailDogg@webtv.net (~Trail Dogg~)
 Subject: your web page
 Nice page, what type of stearing are you going to use on you soild axle?
 I read how you are going to through it under so you can still drive it,
 I was wondering how you were going to stear it. Are you going to plop a
 soild axle box on there and change it later, or change it now or keep
 it?
 As i write this, did'nt you tell the list you bought the allpro
 stearing kit? If so OPPS!
 GOOD LUCK, I'am looking forward to the swap writeup.
 Darren Sinkey//SeaBass!
 82 l/b 22r,7"@33"s
 Oroville,Ca.?????where?
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:56:57 -0800 (PST)
 From: TrailDogg@webtv.net (~Trail Dogg~)
 Subject: your web page
 Opps, I missed page #1, I see your stearing setup now.
 Nevermind.......:^)
 Darren Sinkey//SeaBass!
 82 l/b 22r,7"@33"s
 Oroville,Ca.?????where?
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:43:30 -0600
 From: Robert Canon  Subject: Future of the Tacoma?
 I'm thinking of sinking some money into modifications to my Tacoma to make
 it a bit better on the rocks.  Sadly, there are no crawler gears etc.
 available for Tacos, and if Toyota makes another huge change on the next
 truck model, causing Tacomas to be an evolutionary cul de sac, there may
 never be...  I was wondering if anyone has any insight into the direction
 Toyota will go with future models.  Is the next generation of truck likely
 to continue to use the 3.4 platform and compatible transmissions and
 t-cases?  If so, as more of these trucks go off warranty and are put into
 service on the trail is it inevitable that low volume specialty shops
 catering to Toyota loyalists like Marlin Crawler and JP Eater will begin to
 produce crawler gears etc. for the Taco and compatible trucks?
 I can almost hear the 1st and second generation truck contingent snickering
 scornfully...  I can't argue that starting with a 1st, 2nd, or third
 generation truck would have made more sense but at this point I'm attached
 to my Tacoma!
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:11:16 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: Re: rear disc brake
 Byrond Davenport  wrote:>I have just completed the rear disc brakes on my 89 V6 pickup.>The pedal travel is a little long.  I ordered the 2lb residuals from>summit, should I have ordered the 10 lb?
 I recently ordered one at the suggestion of Mat Noualy. He used the 10 lb.
 version and that is the one I ordered. I have not yet installed it.>I have never seen what a residual valve looks like, Summit had only one>type of 2 lb valve.  I assume that it will be standard fittings and not>metric.
 It is about 1.5 to 2 inches long and has a hex shaped body that is about
 3/4" wide. It has SAE female threaded ends......not metric.>How exactly do they work?  I assume that they are an in-line fitting, and>that they just hold 2 lb of pressure in the line.  Where can I get>conversion fittings?  Or should I just convert over to standard from the>residual out?
 That's how I understand their function. Depending on how you do it you
 could use conversion fittings or cut off your metric ends and replace with
 SAE fittings. You should be able to get conversion fittings from Earl's.
 Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet  (ROKTOY)
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:58:24 -0700
 From: "Tong, Donald L"  Subject: RE: Punctuation
 Darren,
 I'd take it as constructive criticism and not get too put off by it.  Yes,
 using the wrong word now and then, or misspelling something does sometimes
 make a post harder to read, but as long as the idea comes across, it's okay.
 I really doubt anyone on the mailing list expects perfect spelling and
 perfect grammer all the time.
 Personally, my big problem is that I frequently go back and edit what I
 write.  One consequence of this is that I sometimes inadvertantly leave in
 or take out the word "not", which has a tendency to give a sentence the
 completely wrong meaning.  I suspect misspelling words is the lesser sin.
 If you do want to respond to the person that sent you this mail, say
 "thanks".  You might also want to point out to the writer that the pronoun
 "I" should always be capitalized.  And as someone else pointed out, there is
 supposed to be a space after punctuation.
 So okay, you look like a dumb-ass  :-)   At least you're not a hyprocritical
 dumb-ass!
 Take care.
 Don Tong
 P.S.  Have you ever been to the hot springs at Saline Valley?  I'm going to
 stop there on my way to Mammoth Thursday and was wondering how long it takes
 to get from the hot springs to Lone Pine.  I want to get off the dirt before
 sundown.
 Thanks.
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: TrailDogg@webtv.net [mailto:TrailDogg@webtv.net]
 Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 6:14 PM
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject: Fwd: Punctuation
 Anyone else get this in there e-mail?
 How would you take this?
 I'll take it with a grain of salt......:^)
 Darren Sinkey//SeaBass!
 82 l/b 22r,7"@33"s
 Oroville,Ca.?????where?
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:28:59 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Re: Tyre pressure
 look at the sticker on your door....
 Xander Botha wrote:>> Does anybody know what the recommended on-road tyre pressures (front and>> rear) are for Goodyear RTSA 265/75R15 tyres fitted on my Toyota Hilux 4x4.>>>> Xander Botha>> Design Engineer - Tellumat>> Tel: +27 21 7102489>> Fax: +27 21 7102693>> E-mail: abotha@tellumat.com>> Web: http://www.plessey.com/microwave>>>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:29:39 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Re: Front cv in rear, does it hold up??
 or just lots of lift...
 Chris Geiger wrote:>> I have 1"lift>> shackles that tilt the rear pumkin up, but I have a vibration off the line,>> I will be installing a duel transfer case next week, I wont be using my front>> driveline in front , due to installing a dana 44, I was wondering if anyone>> has a cv in the rear.>> A CV on the rear drive shaft is needed if you run both a dual case and a> lift. The CV joint holds up well. Most people use a lengthened 1985> model drive shaft. The IFS front drive shaft uses a different CV joint> and does not have the needed droop for use in the rear. The longer> shackles work well with a rear CV joint because it rotates the rear axle> causing the pinion to point up more toward the tcase.>> --> Chris Geiger 93 4Runner http://128.111.151.211/offroad> Off-Road.Com Toyota section editor, Album page editor> Marlin case #103, 33" tires, All Pro Solid axle conversion>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:36:07 -0800
 From: "Sandy and Terry"  Subject: Re: Future of the Tacoma?
 The most significant change to next generation Tacoma is the addition of the
 "D" cab or double cab truck which is scheduled for Jan 2001.  There are a
 few minor changes to the interior etc.  The seats are being slightly
 modified to increase comfort, fabric and color will change also.  I haven't
 heard of any changes to the engine or drive train.
 Terry Johnson
 '89 XCab V6 SR5 w/new heads
 Tacoma OEM Seat and Headliner Supplier>I'm thinking of sinking some money into modifications to my Tacoma to make>it a bit better on the rocks.  Sadly, there are no crawler gears etc.>available for Tacos, and if Toyota makes another huge change on the next>truck model, causing Tacomas to be an evolutionary cul de sac, there may>never be...  I was wondering if anyone has any insight into the direction>Toyota will go with future models.  Is the next generation of truck likely>to continue to use the 3.4 platform and compatible transmissions and>t-cases
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:59:43 -0800
 From: "Jason Gee"  Subject: Re: Gleoco driveshaft vibration
 Jason, is this driveshaft on the front or rear??
 If it is on the front it should not have been turning driving down the
 road.
 If it is on the rear, is 16" necessary?
 I have heard it is very difficult to balance a driveshaft that heavy.  I
 think the heavier it is the more it will show either out of balance
 problems or (i think) u-joint angles not perfect.
 Toyota Tony
 It is on the rear and yes, 16 inches is a bit over kill...I just figured
 I'd buy it and have them build it strong and never have to build
 another one.  I think their 16" spline shaft is fine for a rock-crawler/
 off-road application but possibly unsuitable for street use.  The splines
 as Chris G. mentioned on his are a very course pitch and are somewhat
 loose.  I am not sure if Chris's shaft uses a shortened version of my
 splimes or if ours are different.  I did get Gloeco to confirm that
 the splines are not from an automotive source but from an industrial
 application.  I bought it knowing I would soon be converting to a NP205
 from a NP203 transfer-case which is 7" shorter.  The shaft was bought
 with the idea being...last driveshaft mod ever...as I should have been
 able to run any length trans/transfer together with any rear suspension/
 shackle arrangement.  The truck currently has 14" rear vertical travel
 (far more for articulated travel) and is shock/brakeline/e-cable/exhaust/
 and shackle limited--my shackles are horizontal at max travel etc.  I am
 shooting for 19" true vertical travel and may in the end use a lot more
 of Gloeco's shaft travel...if I can eliminate the vibration problem.
 The factory stock shaft ran smooth until it broke in half at 90+MPH and
 flew out from under the truck so it is not driveshaft u-joint angle
 related.  Also, how good are Nepco(sp?) u-joints? Gleoco would not
 build the shaft with Spicer's, mine were already getting loose after
 100 miles probably from the extreme vibration--my transfer case shifter
 shakes side to side and buzzes/humms depending on speed--over 2" side
 to side!!!
 Jason Gee
 brutpwr@earthlink.net
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:54:21 -0800
 From: "Ronald Erickson"  Subject: Trailmaster 6" for Tacoma Questions
 I would like some information from anybody who might have a Trailmaster
 6" lift on there Tacoma.  I have a 98 Tacoma with TRD that I will be
 lifting next week.  Wanted to find out exactley how the new
 strut tower system works.  And how reliable the kit is.  I know about the
 rear driveshaft problems and that is an easy fix.  I was wondering if there are
 any alignment issues with the kit, and how "beefy" it is?  Please give me as much
 info as you can.  And as far as the Procomp lift,  everybody out there who has a
 Procomp lift tell me that there 33x12.50 rub.  No matter what kind of tire that they have.
 Also several shops have told me that the spindle spacer has problems breaking when out
 4 wheelin'.  I want to clear 33's and have no problem without a body lift.
 Ronn
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:02:36 -0800
 From: kkuo@wimsey.com
 Subject: Gas Gauge Gone
 Over the weekend my gas gauge started acting funny. When I start the truck
 it reads fine (3/4 full at the time), then as I drive the needle would begin
 to dip slowly until it stays at bottom. When I come to a full stop, it would
 slooowly creep back up, but any forward motion and the needle dips back down
 again.
 Then on Sunday the needle (or entire gauge) just went completely. Is this a
 gas tank sending unit problem ? I hope it's a cheap, DIY job, I just spent
 almost Cdn$1000 last week on an unplanned new clutch job, but at least the
 truck purrs like a dream in that respect now.
 Any help on my gas gauge problem would be highly appreciated !
 Ken
 kkuo@wimsey.com
 Vancouver, B.C.
 '89 4RNR/22RE/5m/184,000kms
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:12 CST
 From: weigellj@dgabby.mfldclin.edu (Lee Weigel)
 Subject: 85 xtra cab for sale
 For sale:
 1985 X-tra Cab 4x4 Sr5 with 4" of suspension lift, 3" body lift. No rust, bobbed box. 22re engine with 120000 miles, runs good, no smoke/knocks. Centerforce dual friction clutch. 5 speed tranny. Black exterior with brown interior. 33" tires on 15"x10" chrome rims. bugsheild, bedliner, custom spare tire mount. Located in central wi. Call 715-389-4556 8-5 m-f or 715-687-3353 5-8 m-f or email of list to weigellj@dgabby.mfldclin.edu Asking price $3300 obo. Thanks.
 Lee
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:01:13 -0500
 From: mrodg@juno.com
 Subject: Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale
 This is nice if you just want to add an amp to your current stereo, but
 if you are looking for high quality sound, aftermarket radios with preamp
 outputs produce far better sound than any stock radio system.
 Aftermarket introduces less noise, has better stereo separation, and
 produces clearer, crisper music reproduction, and have a better sound
 stage(ie. the individuals in the band will sound like they are in the
 proper place on a stage.)>If the only reason you're upgrading it is to be able to have pre-amp>outputs, you can always buy a converter that converts amplified signals>to pre-amp signals. They run pretty cheap. I think I got mine for about>$8. You connect the speaker wires to one end and the other end has RCA>wires running out which you connect to your amp.
 Mike Rodgers                     MRodg@Juno.com
 1988 4Runner                    2.25" SS Exhaust
 1.5" Downey Shackles      31" BFG All-Terrains
 Bosche 100W fog lights   Junk Monroe SensiTrac Shocks
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:40:14 -0800
 From: "Moomba Performance Xross-Training, Los Angeles CA"  Subject: Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale
 No doubt about that one. Most after-market stereo components are
 definately much better quality but like I mentioned, if all he wants to
 do is hook up an amp, then he doesn't need to change the whole system.
 Depends on how much better he wants the sound to be and what budget he's
 working with. You can spend very little money to get slightly better
 sound or thousands of dollars for a competition system.
 Shawn Ooi    Los Angeles, CA    moomba@worldnet.att.net
 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5    196K    Rear EZ-Lockers    K&N Filtercharger
 Eibach 2" lift    2" body-lift    RS9000s    32" Bridgestone M/Ts
 http://members.tripod.com/moomba4rnr/index.html
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 mrodg@juno.com wrote:
 This is nice if you just want to add an amp to your current stereo, but
 if you are looking for high quality sound, aftermarket radios with
 preamp outputs produce far better sound than any stock radio system.
 Aftermarket introduces less noise, has better stereo separation, and
 produces clearer, crisper music reproduction, and have a better sound
 stage(ie. the individuals in the band will sound like they are in the
 proper place on a stage.)
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:58:25 -0600 (CST)
 From: Brian Wiencek  Subject: Re: Future of the Tacoma?> The most significant change to next generation Tacoma is the addition of the> "D" cab or double cab truck which is scheduled for Jan 2001.
 Does anyone know if there are any 'concept' truck photos or 'spy' photos
 of the tacoma DC on the 'net?
 - - Brian
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:10:38 -0500
 From: "Robert Ditusa"  Subject: Embarrassing Story (long)
 I offer this near tragic, embarrassing story up to the lists for your benefit and safety. I was driving my 79 Blazer (4" lift) to my newly purchased first home through the twisty curvy back country roads of Wake Forest NC, when, much to my dismay, my left front 35x14x15" Ground Hawg on it's 15x10" rim decides to exit - stage left!!! That's right, wheel and tire go cruising of into the distance, while my truck and myself went skidding into the ditch on the right side of the road! Thank God there was no one coming in the opposite lane!!
 Long story short - I was able to jack up the truck and reinstall the rim & tire, steal one lug nut from the other 3 wheels, and slowly drive home (I was only like 3 miles from the house). Aside from the fire I started on the side of the road from the sparks, and the very flat spot on my rotor, the truck is fine! Can you believe no body damage!!
 Anyways, I guess the moral of the story is to always recheck the tightness of your lugnuts on a regular basis, especially if your wheels are aluminum.
 RD
 1979 Blazer
 1980 Toyota
 Garage full 'o motorcycles
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:08:41 -0800
 From: "Bob"  Subject: Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale
 While I'll agree most of your reasons with having a aftermarket stereo, It's
 difficult at best to get a good sound stage in a vehicle.  It's more of a function
 of speaker placement than anything else.  And the problem with a vehicle is
 there's not a lot of good places to put speakers to acheive that goal.> crisper music reproduction, and have a better sound stage(ie. the
 Laters,
 Bob
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:09:49 -0600 (CST)
 From: Brian Wiencek  Subject: Sub in 4Runner (stereo ?)
 OK, since someone else brought it up, I've been running a single kicker
 competition 10 sub in the RR of my '85 4Runner.  I've sealed off the area
 fairly well, and used a dynamat like product to dampen the sheetmetal, and
 used 3/4" plywood on the front side to hold the sub.  I think I've got
 about .8 cu ft.  My question is this - I'm looking for a better sound out
 of this 'box' and was wondering what others have done - I think the sub is
 a little sloppy at high volumes, and definately doesn't have the 'punch'
 of the 2 12's that I have in my avalon ;-)
 Anyone have any opionions on going with a JL audio 10W3 or soething else?
 Do I just need to scrap the idea of using the storage area as a sub box
 and loose valuable cargo space just to get more bass?
 FWIW I'm using a MTX 2160 (2x160) bridged mono rated at like 1x380 to
 drive the sub (can easily bottom it out), and a 4320 (80x4) for the full
 range.
 - - Brian
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:26:37 -0800
 From: "Bob"  Subject: Re: Future of the Tacoma?> Does anyone know if there are any 'concept' truck photos or 'spy' photos> of the tacoma DC on the 'net?
 Check out http://www.toyota.com.au
 Laters,
 Bob
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:55:31 -7 GMT
 From: "Leo G. Divinagracia III"  Subject: Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale> From: "Moomba Performance Xross-Training, Los Angeles CA"> Subject: Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale>> If the only reason you're upgrading it is to be able to have pre-amp> outputs, you can always buy a converter that converts amplified signals> to pre-amp signals. They run pretty cheap. I think I got mine for about> $8. You connect the speaker wires to one end and the other end has RCA> wires running out which you connect to your amp.
 one of the reasons to avoid this method is that you are still going
 through the amplifier section of the head unit.  so if your radio has
 sucky sounding output, you're just passing it along to a pre-amp stage.
 unfortunately, there aren't too much head units out there with pre-amp
 outputs only.  they tend to be in the highest-end units from each
 manufacturers.  i always argue with them (manu reps), that most people
 attach an amp to them.  so why am i paying for something i won't be using
 (kinda like micro$oft's internet exploder that was 'built-in' into
 windoze98...).  8-))
 so you end up buying an aftermerket head unit.  it comes with pre-amp
 outputs.  but it still comes with a puny-ass amp that claims to have like
 30 watts x 4 (which is a joke).  it still gets hot and my biggest peeve is
 that they coulda stuffed more electronics in there instead, for more
 features...
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 Leo G. Divinagracia III
 ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:19:03 -0500
 From: James S Boyer  Subject: 14" travel IFS
 I saw someone mentioned a 14" IFS from ATS (Advanced Toyota
 Suspensions).I tried the number but got the "No longer in service"
 message.I may have written the number down wrong.I have 909-277-7327.Let
 me know if you have any dealings with them and current phone #.Also,web
 site?I tried a search, but no luck.
 Thanks,
 Scott
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:14:54 -0800
 From: "Moomba Performance Xross-Training, Los Angeles CA"  Subject: Re: Toyota factory CD player For Sale
 I'm no expert in the audio system department but I do enjoy good quality
 music but it does surprise me sometimes how much people will spend on
 their audio systems to get good quality crisp sound with little
 resistance/ disturbance/ interferance when there is so much noise coming
 from not only the wind and mufflers (in some vehicles) and the engine
 but especially if you're running mudders, from the road. Kind of defeats
 the purpose unless you're going to listen to your system when your truck
 is not moving. Just my thoughts...
 Shawn, His Mystical Greatness' prediction of the day:
 All this stereo talk is going to get booted off The List pretty
 soon.     8*)
 Shawn Ooi    Los Angeles, CA    moomba@worldnet.att.net
 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5    196K    Rear EZ-Lockers    K&N Filtercharger
 Eibach 2" lift    2" body-lift    RS9000s    32" Bridgestone M/Ts
 http://members.tripod.com/moomba4rnr/index.html
 Leo G. Divinagracia III wrote:
 one of the reasons to avoid this method is that you are still going
 through the amplifier section of the head unit.  so if your radio has
 sucky sounding output, you're just passing it along to a pre-amp stage.
 unfortunately, there aren't too much head units out there with pre-amp
 outputs only.  they tend to be in the highest-end units from each
 manufacturers.  i always argue with them (manu reps), that most people
 attach an amp to them.  so why am i paying for something i won't be
 using (kinda like micro$oft's internet exploder that was 'built-in' into
 windoze98...).  8-))
 so you end up buying an aftermerket head unit.  it comes with pre-amp
 outputs.  but it still comes with a puny-ass amp that claims to have
 like 30 watts x 4 (which is a joke).  it still gets hot and my biggest
 peeve is that they coulda stuffed more electronics in there instead, for
 more features...
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:25:46 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: 14" travel IFS
 James S Boyer wrote:>> I saw someone mentioned a 14" IFS from ATS (Advanced Toyota> Suspensions).I tried the number but got the "No longer in service"> message.I may have written the number down wrong.I have 909-277-7327.Let> me know if you have any dealings with them and current phone #.Also,web> site?I tried a search, but no luck.
 ATS: (909) 277-227. Talk to Jill and ask her to send you some
 literature. She is very friendly, and so is her husband, Scott. They are
 located in Corona, California, western Riverside County.
 Tell them you got their number from Off-Road.Com!
 - --
 Jim Brink, Manhattan Beach, CA                   toytech@off-road.com
 Toyota/ASE Certified Technician      http://www.off-road.com/~toytech/
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:14:57 -0500
 From: "NUNES, ROB"  Subject: Tacoma Off-Road.
 Ordering a brand new Tacoma and have two questions.
 1. Is the Off-Road package worth the $1500?
 2. Is the V6 worth the additional $1000?
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:32:01 -0600 (CST)
 From: davekimm@webtv.net (david meador)
 Subject: Re: front cv in rear
 Jaime
 I've been running this setup for years with 36"
 swamper tsl/sx's and a Detroit locker and have had no problems. I
 haven't even replaced a u-joint in that time.  You may need to replace
 the drive flange on the rear of the transfer case with one from the
 front, the bolt pattern is usually only slightly larger on the front
 shaft.
 Dave Meador
 85 & 95 4Runner
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:36:45 -0800
 From: John Viernes  Subject: V-6 into 4 banger compartment
 I would like to replace my 4banger with a japanese model V-6 engine.
 Has anyone ever done this?
 If so, are there any major or minor modifications, or can it mount directly to the 4 banger mounts.
 I have a auto trans.  Will the stock 4banger trans  be sufficient?
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Please post info or e-mail
 me at:
 jviernes@earthlink.net
 Thanks,
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:08:35 -0500 (EST)
 From: "Karl D. Bellve, Ph.D."  Subject: Re: Embarrassing Story (long)
 Actually, I have seen this happen alot on the left front tire. Chrysler
 used to have reverse threads on the left hand side of the car to help
 prevent this. They stopped this since many mechanics just broke studs
 because they were tightening instead of loosening.
 On my truck, I had this happen twice without losing the wheel. Both times,
 it was the left front. I also caught it both times with one lug still
 attached. Truck made a funny "whop...whop" side with just one lug nut. :-)
 Once was an aluminum and the other was a steel rim. Anyway, always tighten
 the lug nuts within 100 miles of having the wheel
 off. Especially check that left front side.
 On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Robert Ditusa wrote:>      I offer this near tragic, embarrassing story up to the lists for your benefit and safety. I was driving my 79 Blazer (4" lift) to my newly purchased first home through the twisty curvy back country roads of Wake Forest NC, when, much to my dismay, my left front 35x14x15" Ground Hawg on it's 15x10" rim decides to exit - stage left!!! That's right, wheel and tire go cruising of into the distance, while my truck and myself went skidding into the ditch on the right side of the road! Thank God there was no one coming in the opposite lane!!>>      Long story short - I was able to jack up the truck and reinstall the rim & tire, steal one lug nut from the other 3 wheels, and slowly drive home (I was only like 3 miles from the house). Aside from the fire I started on the side of the road from the sparks, and the very flat spot on my rotor, the truck is fine! Can you believe no body damage!!>>      Anyways, I guess the moral of the story is to always recheck the tightness of your lugnuts on a regular basis, especially if your wheels are aluminum.>> RD> 1979 Blazer> 1980 Toyota> Garage full 'o motorcycles>>>>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> Cheers,
 Karl Bellve, Ph.D.                   ICQ # 13956200
 Biomedical Imaging Group             TLCA# 7938
 University of Massachusetts
 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-6514
 Fax:   (508) 856-1840
 PGP Public Key: finger kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:42:09 -0600 (CST)
 From: Brian Wiencek  Subject: Re: V-6 into 4 banger compartment> I would like to replace my 4banger with a japanese model V-6 engine.> Has anyone ever done this?> If so, are there any major or minor modifications, or can it mount directly to the 4 banger mounts.
 Well, first thing - what year/model?  I know all the older trucks/4Runners
 didn't have the motor mount provisions for the V-6 (cuz it wasn't around
 then), but that should be trivial.  What you will need is:
 Complete Engine (intake to pan)
 Accessories & brackets
 Radiator
 Wiring Harness & ECU
 Belhousing (if separate on trans otherwise matching V-6 tranny/t-case)
 Fuel pump (the stock 4 cyl EFI pump might work marginally)
 Exhaust system
 Throttle cable
 V-6 compatable tach (if truck is so equipped)
 That's off the top of my head - your best bet is to buy a wrecked V-6
 truck and swap the 'guts' over to your truck and then sell the rest.  I
 looked at it before deciding on a SBC swap. (more power per dollar spent)
 - - Brian
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:14:51 +0000
 From: "Gordon T. Dalton"  Subject: A Taco recall
 I just heard from my dealer that mt Taco (3.4l v-6) has
 been recalled for a head gasket replacement. This is
 apparently just came out from Toyota last week. I assume it
 applies to the later-generation 4runners w/ the same
 engine. I know the earlier 3.0 l v-6 was recalled in the
 past for same prob.
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:10:59 -0600
 From: Ryan Beal  Subject: RE: Tacoma Off-Road.
 Get the V6 for sure and order the electric locker separate.  I don't
 think the whole Off-road package is worth it but the locker is a must.
 Ryan S. Beal
 rbeal@rftechnologies.com
 -----Original Message-----
 From:	NUNES, ROB [SMTP:RNUNES@exchange1.PRIA.com]
 Sent:	Monday, February 15, 1999 2:15 PM
 To:	'toy4x4@tlca.org'
 Subject:	Tacoma Off-Road.
 Ordering a brand new Tacoma and have two questions.
 1. Is the Off-Road package worth the $1500?
 2. Is the V6 worth the additional $1000?
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:17:52 -0600
 From: Ryan Beal  Subject: RE: Sub in 4Runner (stereo ?)
 Loose some cargo area and build a nice box.  Also adjust your amp like
 this.  Turn your radio to the maximum volume that you listen to it.
 Turn you amp gain all the way down and them turn it up until the sub
 starts distorting.   Then turn the gain down slightly.  This will give
 you clean and crisp sound and bass.  If you want a lot of bass get a big
 box with 3 10's and run them mono.  The box needs to be sealed and it
 will sound better.  I've got a simular setup in my 4Runner with 460w's
 RMS going to the box.  It really cranks if I turn it up enough.
 Ryan S. Beal
 rbeal@rftechnologies.com
 -----Original Message-----
 From:	Brian Wiencek [SMTP:bwiencek@kcnet.com]
 Sent:	Monday, February 15, 1999 1:10 PM
 To:	toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject:	Sub in 4Runner (stereo ?)
 OK, since someone else brought it up, I've been running a single
 kicker
 competition 10 sub in the RR of my '85 4Runner.  I've sealed off
 the area
 fairly well, and used a dynamat like product to dampen the
 sheetmetal, and
 used 3/4" plywood on the front side to hold the sub.  I think
 I've got
 about .8 cu ft.  My question is this - I'm looking for a better
 sound out
 of this 'box' and was wondering what others have done - I think
 the sub is
 a little sloppy at high volumes, and definately doesn't have the
 'punch'
 of the 2 12's that I have in my avalon ;-)
 Anyone have any opionions on going with a JL audio 10W3 or
 soething else?
 Do I just need to scrap the idea of using the storage area as a
 sub box
 and loose valuable cargo space just to get more bass?
 FWIW I'm using a MTX 2160 (2x160) bridged mono rated at like
 1x380 to
 drive the sub (can easily bottom it out), and a 4320 (80x4) for
 the full
 range.
 - Brian
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:31:46 -0500
 From: Ed.Wong@astrapharmaceuticals.com
 Subject: re: Dash removal>I have the driver's side dash off, but I just can't seem to get> the passenger side dash pad off.
 Most likely you fergot the three hidden "nuts". The studs are
 welded to the front "cross bar" or the winshield area.
 #1 - is hiddedn on the upper left hand side - just behind the
 instrument cluser. Ya gotta remove the instrument cluser to
 see it.
 #2 is hidden "upside down" under the middel of the dash back
 near the winshield. Take out the glove box. You will see a
 short (6" to 8") section of vent duct that is held in place
 with one sheet metal screw. Remove the screw and then remove
 vent duct section. Now lie down on the passenger footwell
 area and use a 10mm socket on an extension bar. The nut is
 usually tight from the factory (its a "k" nut - self locking
 with serrations). Feel around up under the edge where the
 dash meets the winshield. Be careful as the metal flash might
 slice up yer fingert tips. Remove nut.
 #3 is hidden behing the right most dash vent. Supposedly you
 are to use a small screw driver to depress the tabs that hold
 the vent duct in place. Use the vent duct on the drivers side
 panel (which must be removed to get this far anyway) so see
 how its held in place. I find it easier to "bend" the dash
 out by a few inches and slip my hands back there to get the
 dash vent out. Then I remove the last nut.
 After mucho practice - 12 min to remove the entire dash...
 EWong
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:35:54 -0500
 From: Ed.Wong@astrapharmaceuticals.com
 Subject: Downey Fenders
 Downey doesnt make the fenders for the 84-88 body styles - Hanneman's does.
 They are in AZ last I recall.
 Fabtech is one alternative and Donahue Racing is another.
 Maybe AutoFab as well.
 EWong
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 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:58:37 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: Sub in 4Runner (stereo ?)
 Brian:> OK, since someone else brought it up, I've been running a single kicker> competition 10 sub in the RR of my '85 4Runner.  I've sealed off the area> fairly well, and used a dynamat like product to dampen the sheetmetal, and> used 3/4" plywood on the front side to hold the sub.  I think I've got> about .8 cu ft.  My question is this - I'm looking for a better sound out> of this 'box' and was wondering what others have done - I think the sub is> a little sloppy at high volumes, and definately doesn't have the 'punch'> of the 2 12's that I have in my avalon ;-)
 First, GET RID OF THE PLYWOOD! The stuff eats power, vibrates like crazy
 internally. You want MDF, 3/4" at least. It's what all the better boxes are
 made of (this is NOT particle board, although it looks like it). Sub boxes
 need to be RIGID, very solid, and sealed tight. Any portion that is sheet
 metal will flex, eating power and sound quality. I had a nice set of BA 6"
 speakers in that same area of my '85 4Runner, run by an a/d/s PQ10.2 amp (50
 W/speaker). The sides and front of the enclosure were just 1/2" plywood,
 while the rear was the actual fender sheetmetal. Crank up the volume, and I
 could watch the fenders flex with the bass, even at that small amount of
 power. Lesson learned.> Anyone have any opionions on going with a JL audio 10W3 or soething else?> Do I just need to scrap the idea of using the storage area as a sub box> and loose valuable cargo space just to get more bass?
 I have a single JL 10W3 in a custom sealed box, that sits right behind my
 rear seat firing backwards. Be aware that you must be VERY careful with
 volume of boxes when working with sealed enclosures. I carefully designed my
 box using the 3D capabilities of AutoCAD to get the volume just right (I
 think it was 0.85 ft3), probably still have the drawing here somewhere with
 all the dimensions. It fits perfectly, the sound is great, just what I
 wanted. Not real boomy and loose. I run it with an a/d/s PS5.2 (bridged @
 100W). The entire box is covered in carpeting that matched perfectly with my
 gray interior. I have a JPG of it if you want me to email it.
 I started with a Kicker 10", found it too loose, required too much power to
 get any punch.
 We can take this off the list if you want to pursue it.
 - -KLF
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