Toyota 4x4 digest:      Friday, February 5 1999      Volume 02 : Number 225
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 Clock Wiring..
 Custom Goodyear tires?
 Re: Custom Goodyear tires?
 RE: Custom snorkle Pre-filter
 Personal Bio Information
 Torsion lift-coils and shocks?
 Ramsey REP8000 and TJM/ARB bumpers
 [none]
 Re: Tow straps
 Re: Goodyear tires?
 auto trannys
 Re: Dynoed Supercharged 4Runner yesterday...
 [none]
 Re: Ramsey REP8000 and TJM/ARB bumpers
 Re: Custom Goodyear tires?
 RE: Turbo motor rebuild
 RE: Turbo motor rebuild
 Re: auto trannys
 Re: Cutting lower front fender seam
 Re: funny toyota ovie
 Re: auto trannys
 Personal Bio Info
 toy body swap
 Funny toy movie
 Re:
 Re: Goodyear tires?
 Needed:newer style rubber Tcase shifter knob
 Fw: oils and stuff
 re rear coils
 Re: Easter Jeep Safari-Moab
 RE: Tire carrier rust release
 Re: Torsion lift-coils and shocks?
 Re: Head gaskets
 Airbag and leaf spring suspension questions...
 Engine numbers
 65 hp perf pkg
 Re: Engine numbers
 Personal Bio Info
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:10:56 -0500
 From: "Tim Cook"  Subject: Clock Wiring..
 Thanks to rick Jones and others, I **found** the elusive plug I was looking
 for....
 Thanks again
 tim
 '86 4x4 extracab
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:13:18 -0700 (MST)
 From: SKYETONE@webtv.net (SKYE JEROLAMON)
 Subject: Custom Goodyear tires?
 My buddy found a 31-11.5-15 goodyear R/T
 It looks like a ground howg only a little diferent
 we called around and found out it was made in 95 then we  were lookin at
 used tire places and found them in a 31-13.5-15 looked like new.
 Dot date said 98.I know they absolutely make a
 37-14.5-16.5 we have been playing
 "STUMP THE PRO" around town and get all kinds of diferent answers.I
 looked up goodyear on the web and found them in Chile.Has anyone seen
 them anywhere else?
 There really popular on hummers
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:25:24 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Re: Custom Goodyear tires?
 SKYE JEROLAMON wrote:>> My buddy found a 31-11.5-15 goodyear R/T> It looks like a ground howg only a little diferent> we called around and found out it was made in 95 then we  were lookin at> used tire places and found them in a 31-13.5-15 looked like new.> Dot date said 98.I know they absolutely make a> 37-14.5-16.5 we have been playing> "STUMP THE PRO" around town and get all kinds of diferent answers.I> looked up goodyear on the web and found them in Chile.Has anyone seen> them anywhere else?> There really popular on hummers
 Are you sure its not Goodyear Wrangler M/T?  instead of R/T?
 its the M/Ts that come on the Hummers.
 We've been running Goodyear Wrangler M/T's in 31x11.5 on Jenn's Jeep for
 over a year now.  I'm not pleased with how they're wearing...but
 definitely good on and off road traction.
 we ordered them through the Tire Rack  http://www.tirerack.com
 Scott
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 o~~~|/~/~|~\~~~~~~~~~~~      Scott Wilson
 o  |?????????:       /    Santa Clara, CA
 O */_\---/_\      /    TLCA, CA4WDC member
 (_)   (_)    /  http://www.off-road.com/~swilson
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:25:40 -0600
 From: cscotti@econophone.com
 Subject: RE: Custom snorkle Pre-filter
 I am also going to be designing some sort of K&N Filter Charger
 Kit/Removable Snorkel combo.  I am going to build a removable box for a the
 K&N open Air Filter then attach it and run a pipe up through a closeable
 hole in the hood.  Basically on the road it would be completely open and off
 road it would have a snorkel with slightly better performance than stock.  I
 am going to relocate the filter to the back of the engine compartment near
 the master cylinder.  Any Ideas/Comments/Advice would be greatly
 appreciated.
 Chris Scotti
 CW Computer Services
 Cscotti@cwcomp.com
 www.cwcomp.com
 1995 Green 4Runner SR5 Soft-Top w/4"susp/2"body lift, 33"M/T's, ARB Rear &
 EZ-Locker Front, Bobbed 6", XD9000I Hitch-Mounted Winch, Custom Bumpers and
 Nerf Bars/Air Tanks, Lots of Lights & Techno Gadgets (Stereo, GPS, etc?),
 (Some mods in Progress)
 - -----Original Message-----
 From:	SKYETONE@webtv.net [mailto:SKYETONE@webtv.net]
 Sent:	Thursday, February 04, 1999 5:06 PM
 To:	Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Subject:	Custom snorkle Pre-filter
 Has any body ever ran K/N outside in the true wheather??I know that it
 is "water resistant"but before i spend the $ to put one on as a
 pre-filter I would like some input onwhat everybody else has seen done
 or heard of.I (and johnny)have all the plumbing but lack the weather
 proofing
 to keep the fun of utah OUT of the engine
 let me know whats up
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:00:55 -0800
 From: Aaron Price  Subject: Personal Bio Information
 Name:  Aaron Price
 City & State:  West Linn, Oregon
 Country:  USA
 E-mail address:  aprice@metamor-pdx.com
 Toyota (s) year & model:  1994 Pickup X-cab V6
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):  N
 Age:  18
 Occupation:  Computer Consultant
 Marital Status:  Single
 Hobbies:  4-Wheeling, Snowboarding, Wakeboarding, and I am a Pilot
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:  I don't
 remember...sorry
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:  My vehicle has 35" Thornbirds,
 I got it not too long ago, but i've liked Toys ever since my friend got one
 3 years ago.  I'm not serious 4-wheeler but i do like having fun up in the
 mountains on the weekends.
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:12:18 -0600
 From: Chris Austin  Subject: Torsion lift-coils and shocks?
 So all you have to do is turn up your bars in the front and add a leaf
 in the rear and you can get a 2 inch lift out of
 this? but will it hold and not sag in acouple of yrs? and what size
 tires can you run if you do mudding and novice off-roading? 32x11.50's
 ?   what about the coils and shocks should they be replaced and what
 size and kind?
 any info on this would be helpful because i would seriously consider
 doing this if its cheap and possible.
 Thank you,
 ~KrAzY kriz~
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:16:58 -0500 (EST)
 From: "Karl D. Bellve, Ph.D."  Subject: Ramsey REP8000 and TJM/ARB bumpers
 I received my REP8000 today and I am wondering where people with TJM/ARB
 bumpers put the selenoid box?
 Cheers,
 Karl Bellve, Ph.D.                   ICQ # 13956200
 Biomedical Imaging Group             TLCA# 7938
 University of Massachusetts
 Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
 Phone: (508) 856-6514
 Fax:   (508) 856-1840
 PGP Public Key: finger kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:28:25 -0700
 From: "Stacey and Andrew"  Subject: [none]
 Name:  Andrew Hufford
 City & State:  Idaho Falls, ID
 Country:  USA
 E-mail address:  huffspeed@prodigy.net
 Toyota (s) year & model:  1987 Truck, 2wd Standard Cab Short Bed
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):  N
 Age:  19
 Occupation:  Drafter
 Marital Status:  Married
 Hobbies:  Fixing cars, mountain biking, water ski, motorcycling, camping...
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:  Found it surfing
 the web
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:  Bone stock.  Looking for ways
 to improve performance and
 power to help me pull a trailer that I use frequently.
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:40:47 -0800
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Re: Tow straps
 I just replaced my lumber strap with a real one, sick of knotting one end. Could
 have had it professionally sewn I guess but I got a strap for $15 so I didn't
 bother. Lumber straps only have one looped end
 Darren Floen wrote:> If anyone is looking for a good strap,go to your local sawmill(if you> have one).The use slings for sorting lumber(difficult to explain).The> ones i got are 4" wide and 65' or so long.They'll give them to you for> free,since they throw them away regularely,due to safety concerns.>> Also,at my mill anyway,we have conveyor chains made from 3/8"x2" flat> bar,with the correct offset for making front lift shackles.Drill out the> holes to 3/4" and bolt them on.They have various lenghts.Look through> their scrap pile,you may find some.>> Been meaning to post this for a while now,can't remember if i did> already though ;-)>> Darren>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:51:08 -0800
 From: "Moomba Performance Xross-Training, Los Angeles CA"  Subject: Re: Goodyear tires?
 I've only heard bad things about Goodyear M/Ts from people but every
 time a magazine reviews them, they always seem to get good reviews. What
 gives? Anyone else tried the Goodyear M/Ts? I'm going to be getting some
 new tyres in the not too distant future and am debating whether to get
 BFGs or try the new and improved Bridgestones M/Ts. I've been extremely
 happy with my "old" thread-design Bridgestones. I'm also looking into
 the Silverstones, if I can get them. I'll just throw the Goodyears in
 there as another choice.
 Shawn Ooi    Los Angeles, CA    moomba@worldnet.att.net
 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5    196K    Rear EZ-Lockers    K&N Filtercharger
 Eibach 2" lift    2" body-lift    RS9000s    32" Bridgestone M/Ts
 ---------------------------------------------
 Scott Wilson wrote:
 ...We've been running Goodyear Wrangler M/T's in 31x11.5 on Jenn's Jeep
 for over a year now.  I'm not pleased with how they're wearing...but
 definitely good on and off road traction...
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:54:55 -0800
 From: Mark & Laura Mandere  Subject: auto trannys
 With this talk of autos lately, I was wondering if anyone out there has
 opted to install an auto in their toy over a marlin.  Seems to me with
 nice low gears such as 5:29s and an auto tranny you could really be a
 crawlin machine.
 Would this be a 'more expensive than worth it type of mod' or what?
 Just curious.
 On another note, has everyone picked up the new Petersens 4WD?  Great
 article on mud tires and even a "all terrain vs. mud terrain" article.
 I  hear lots of folks asking whats best, so its cool to see what they
 have to say.
 Mark Mandere
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 1988 Toyota P/U, 22RE, 3" body, 2" suspension with 3/4 elliptic springs,
 lockrighted rear,33"x12.50 SuperSwamper Radials, incab cage,
 custom snorkel, and lots more!
 http://www.geocities.com/~krawler/
 come check it out!
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:06:30 -0600
 From: Steven Reiter  Subject: Re: Dynoed Supercharged 4Runner yesterday...
 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:16:24 -0500
 From: Darren Floen  Subject: Re: Dynoed Supercharged 4Runner yesterday...
 Water injection does not increase boost, it cools the intake
 charge, allowing more boost/ignition advance before
 pinging(read:detonation).Don't use an EFI pump(they're located in the
 tank),use a washer pump,or just spend the coin on the kit.
 I messed around with water injection on my 440 Mopar.It did make a
 difference,allowing about 5-6 degrees more advance,but with almost 13:1
 compression,it wasn't enough to be able to run that advance all the
 time.I used it only for racing,and just cranked the timing back for the
 street.
 If you don't race your 'Runner,you don't really need it.
 Darren
 Actually I talked to a fellow who has a shop that installs the water injection on supercharged miatas and he said that they actually got increased boost because the water helps seal the rotors better to the supercharger housing.  Yes, you're right, it DOES cool the intake charge; that's why I am installing it, but I thought that the increased boost was a "neat" fringe benefit.  The reason why I asked about the EFI pump is that I have the spearco kit, but the little washer
 pump it comes with does not atomize the water but lets it dribble out of the nozzle.  The Aquamist kit ($380) comes with a 100psi pump and a nozzle that's actually .1mm larger than the spearco small nozzle.  So I was going to run an old eclipse fuel pump, capable of at least 80 psi, controlled by an adjustable pressure sensitive switch.  My concern regarding the fuel pump was whether it would corrode internally from the water going through it and whether it would have a
 cooling problem because it was not flowing enough coolant (water) through it.
 On another note does anyone know a shop in Texas (preferably Dallas) that has a 4wd chassis dyno?
 Steve Reiter
 KrazyFast Racing
 Lewisville, TX
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:24:19 -0500
 From: Scott  Subject: [none]
 I have a 93 Toy V6 4X4 and have read about the head gaskets on the V6's. I
 was wondering if they should be replaced after 70k miles? The truck is I
 think at about 68k now. Anyone care to advise on the cost and worthiness of
 this?
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:10:44 EST
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: Re: Ramsey REP8000 and TJM/ARB bumpers
 In a message dated 2/4/99 7:07:48 PM Central Standard Time,
 kdb@molmed.ummed.edu writes:> I received my REP8000 today and I am wondering where people with TJM/ARB>  bumpers put the selenoid box?
 I mounted a set of Hella 500 driving lights on the front, and put the solenoid
 box on some steel angle brackets behind one of the lights.  Easy to get to &
 invisible unless you are looking for it.  Let me know if you have any more
 questions about it.
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:04:47 EST
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: Re: Custom Goodyear tires?
 swilson@off-road.com writes:>  Are you sure its not Goodyear Wrangler M/T?  instead of R/T?>  its the M/Ts that come on the Hummers.
 Scott, he is right - they are the R/T.
 A friend purchased about 20 of them a year or so ago.  They were military
 surplus and they did come off of hummers.  Before they went to the 37" tire on
 the Hummers, they ran these - 35x12.5 R 16.5
 They are absolutely the roughest and hardest mud tire I have ever had the
 opportunity to pilot down the road.
 I was under the impression they had been discontinued.  Occasionally you will
 see a sale of them in the corner of some of the off-road tire places' magazine
 ads.
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:52:42 -0700
 From: "Dave Yeski"  Subject: RE: Turbo motor rebuild
 Subject: Re: Turbo Engine Rebuild
 Brian Wiencek said:>If'n I had a factory turbo motor I'd be replacing the pistons with the>higher compression of a N/A motor.  That should be good for a lot better>low-end torque as well as some power gains up high.
 I'd generally agree with this. The 22R-TE is a 7.3:1 engine, and when
 coupled with the factory's 6 or so pounds of boost, it lacks a bit in the
 low end. I'd be curious to know the actual CR of such a swap, though. The
 22RE is a 9.3:1 setup in stock form, but the 22R-TE's head has a more
 open combustion chamber, so that might conceivably lower the CR to
 something like 9.0:1...(I'm just guessing here). With 6 pounds of boost
 and 92 octane gas, that's probably OK, but I wouldn't want to see it try
 to climb a hill with 87 octane crud. Does anyone else have an opinion on
 this? I think it would work in an ideal setup, but I think it opens the
 door to some nastiness if things go even a little awry.
 Jeff
 I had an '85 Xtra cab with a 5" lift and 33" tires some years ago.  My truck
 had the stock 4.10s and a 22RE motor, but it had an HKS aftermarket Turbo
 installed by the previous owner.  The CR was never changed and although I
 never had a guage on it (stupidity), HKS claimed that the turbo was pushing
 about 8 psi.  THIS TRUCK SCREAMED!!!!!  I even had the opportunity to outrun
 the law up a hill (I was young, now I am the law).  I was able to "catch and
 burn" 2nd gear to the point of mucho smoke with the 33"s!!  The only problem
 that I ever had was not due to the motor, but early turbos had a problem
 with cooling and lubrcation, or rather, the lack of.  I ultimately took it
 off 'cuz HKS wouldn't send me anymore free turbos (to cheap to pay).  I say
 go for it with the heads.  I also know that HKS (some time ago) sells
 intercoolers for that truck (a must).
 Keep in mind, turbos like a load.  I mean, you will feel the most
 "assistance" from a turbo in the gears from 2-4 (not 5th, it's an
 overdrive).  This also means that it may not do much for you on the trail.
 In fact, when it does "kick in", it may cause a loss of traction.
 Good luck. If I can be of anymore help, let me know.
 Later,
 Dave
 mailto:DeeDave@c2i2.com> ============================================================================
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 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:52:42 -0700
 From: "Dave Yeski"  Subject: RE: Turbo motor rebuild
 Subject: Re: Turbo Engine Rebuild
 Brian Wiencek said:>If'n I had a factory turbo motor I'd be replacing the pistons with the>higher compression of a N/A motor.  That should be good for a lot better>low-end torque as well as some power gains up high.
 I'd generally agree with this. The 22R-TE is a 7.3:1 engine, and when
 coupled with the factory's 6 or so pounds of boost, it lacks a bit in the
 low end. I'd be curious to know the actual CR of such a swap, though. The
 22RE is a 9.3:1 setup in stock form, but the 22R-TE's head has a more
 open combustion chamber, so that might conceivably lower the CR to
 something like 9.0:1...(I'm just guessing here). With 6 pounds of boost
 and 92 octane gas, that's probably OK, but I wouldn't want to see it try
 to climb a hill with 87 octane crud. Does anyone else have an opinion on
 this? I think it would work in an ideal setup, but I think it opens the
 door to some nastiness if things go even a little awry.
 Jeff
 I had an '85 Xtra cab with a 5" lift and 33" tires some years ago.  My truck
 had the stock 4.10s and a 22RE motor, but it had an HKS aftermarket Turbo
 installed by the previous owner.  The CR was never changed and although I
 never had a guage on it (stupidity), HKS claimed that the turbo was pushing
 about 8 psi.  THIS TRUCK SCREAMED!!!!!  I even had the opportunity to outrun
 the law up a hill (I was young, now I am the law).  I was able to "catch and
 burn" 2nd gear to the point of mucho smoke with the 33"s!!  The only problem
 that I ever had was not due to the motor, but early turbos had a problem
 with cooling and lubrcation, or rather, the lack of.  I ultimately took it
 off 'cuz HKS wouldn't send me anymore free turbos (to cheap to pay).  I say
 go for it with the heads.  I also know that HKS (some time ago) sells
 intercoolers for that truck (a must).
 Keep in mind, turbos like a load.  I mean, you will feel the most
 "assistance" from a turbo in the gears from 2-4 (not 5th, it's an
 overdrive).  This also means that it may not do much for you on the trail.
 In fact, when it does "kick in", it may cause a loss of traction.
 Good luck. If I can be of anymore help, let me know.
 Later,
 Dave
 mailto:DeeDave@c2i2.com> ============================================================================
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 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:03:22 -0700
 From: "David Eggleston"  Subject: Re: auto trannys>With this talk of autos lately, I was wondering if anyone out there has>opted to install an auto in their toy over a marlin.  Seems to me with>nice low gears such as 5:29s and an auto tranny you could really be a>crawlin machine.>Would this be a 'more expensive than worth it type of mod' or what?>Just curious.> In a related question, does a Marlin Crawler work with a swapped in TH-350?
 Since the original transfer was from a manual transmission, it would seem to
 me that the crawler would bolt up to the existing adapter. Is this
 assumption correct?
 ==============
 David Eggleston
 Glendale, CO
 '84 X-Cab: supercharged 283 V-8/TH-350
 5" suspension/3" body lift, 38.5" Hawgs
 toy283@mho.net
 ICQ  11394206
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:07:38 -0800 (PST)
 From: Luke P Miller  Subject: Re: Cutting lower front fender seam
 Sure, you can do the cutting and welding bit. I just suggested using a
 hammer since I think he only wanted a bit more clearance, and it's easier
 that way (no welding or leaking). If you're trying to stuff 38's in there,
 I'd guess you're sort of stuck cutting and welding back together.
 On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Toyotaro wrote:> Then how about Icelandic trucks? Those guys run 38's and larger with cutout> flares and almost no lift.> I received my 38" Icelandic flares a while ago, painted them, and for what I> have seen holding them against the front fenders I have to cut away> something like 2 inches from the body. (and 2 inches all around the fender)> Same story at the rear, the fact its a crewcab there is a body seam at the> rear too to deal with.> Seems to me they just cut out an angled piece away down under, hammer it> together and welding the cut back on.> I am however still waiting for Runar who's trying to find out about the tips> and tricks on installing those flares.> There must be a way to keep my feets dry, if I only knew how. Lost of> Sikaflex?>> Marco Schotman, the Netherlands.>  -Toyotaro-    Fahrvergn?gen?> '89 4x4 crewcab pickup, 2.4 turbo diesel> many mods, enough lift, 35x14.5 Mickey's> http://dit.is/toyotaro4x4>>>>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ________________________________________________________________________
 Luke Miller
 umilll02@umail.ucsb.edu   Santa Barbara, CA
 85 4Runner SR5 22RE 3" front Alcan lift, 3" rear mazda spring conversion,
 25.4 mm body lift,  RS9000's, rear lock-right, 33" Mud-terrains, #276,
 other ugly garbage
 http://hometown.aol.com/wgwonka/4Runner.html
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:10:20 -0800 (PST)
 From: Luke P Miller  Subject: Re: funny toyota ovie
 On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, SKYE JEROLAMON wrote:> Anyways it was an australian flick and the one kid was driving a> dual/crew cab 91 or  so toy truck with an ultra shortie bed that was cut> almost on the front of the fender.> I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF
 Actually, that was probably just a regular old double cab bed. They are
 that short stock, the wheel well basically starts right behind the end of
 the cab. That's what Mr. Zook will end up with when he finally hacks up
 his bed. I won't laugh when I see the pictures, I'll just say "Oooh,
 neato".
 ________________________________________________________________________
 Luke Miller
 umilll02@umail.ucsb.edu   Santa Barbara, CA
 85 4Runner SR5 22RE 3" front Alcan lift, 3" rear mazda spring conversion,
 25.4 mm body lift,  RS9000's, rear lock-right, 33" Mud-terrains, #276,
 other ugly garbage
 http://hometown.aol.com/wgwonka/4Runner.html
 ________________________________________________________________________
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:20:21 -0800 (PST)
 From: Luke P Miller  Subject: Re: auto trannys
 Isn't that what Jay K. did? Jay, are you out there?
 On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, David Eggleston wrote:> In a related question, does a Marlin Crawler work with a swapped in TH-350?> Since the original transfer was from a manual transmission, it would seem to> me that the crawler would bolt up to the existing adapter. Is this> assumption correct?>> ==============> David Eggleston> Glendale, CO> '84 X-Cab: supercharged 283 V-8/TH-350> 5" suspension/3" body lift, 38.5" Hawgs> toy283@mho.net> ICQ  11394206>>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota> ________________________________________________________________________
 Luke Miller
 umilll02@umail.ucsb.edu   Santa Barbara, CA
 85 4Runner SR5 22RE 3" front Alcan lift, 3" rear mazda spring conversion,
 25.4 mm body lift,  RS9000's, rear lock-right, 33" Mud-terrains, #276,
 other ugly garbage
 http://hometown.aol.com/wgwonka/4Runner.html
 ________________________________________________________________________
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 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:44:20 -0700
 From: Martin Gotch  Subject: Personal Bio Info
 ===========================
 Personal Bio Info
 ===========================
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name: Martin Gotch
 City & State: Phoenix, AZ
 Country: USA
 E-mail address: MGotch@uswest.net
 Toyota (s) year & model: 92 DxCab PU & 96 Ltd Runner
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): No
 Age: 37
 Occupation: Software Engineer
 Marital Status: Married
 Hobbies: Electronics, snow & water skiing, boating, off roading & ATCing
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Browsing
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 His: 92 DxCab PU 32x11.5 BFGs, Bilstiens, C%$^y Buckets, all hidden tri-amped stereo, 42K miles & no HG problems.
 Hers: 96 Ltd 4Runner 16x 75R-265 BFGs on factory alloys, no more runn'n boards, Bilstiens & Downey 2" coils & no HG problems
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:49:09 -0700 (MST)
 From: SKYETONE@webtv.net (SKYE JEROLAMON)
 Subject: toy body swap
 The extra cab will be about 4-6 in longer than a 86 or so x-tra cab
 Frame choice might be a four runner I think that the frame might be
 longer and if not just manipulate the bed to match.
 I think if you just change the mounts and drop it on you will be off
 centered in the wheelwell.Your local serios driveline/suspention shop
 MIGHT be able to relocate the springs farther back for the low hundreds
 of dollars and the driveline can be done for easily under one hundred.If
 you want more input just drop me a line personaly
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:52:52 -0700 (MST)
 From: SKYETONE@webtv.net (SKYE JEROLAMON)
 Subject: Funny toy movie
 How much did they want for the australian trucks did your frend tell you
 how that rounded to Dollars?I think there great!! I want to get one
 bring it back and take it to truck shows just for the responce
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:54:16 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Re:
 Scott wrote:>> I have a 93 Toy V6 4X4 and have read about the head gaskets on the V6's. I> was wondering if they should be replaced after 70k miles? The truck is I> think at about 68k now. Anyone care to advise on the cost and worthiness of> this?
 Check the list archives.  This topic has been discussed to DEATH.
 Scott
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:59:51 -0800
 From: Scott Wilson  Subject: Re: Goodyear tires?
 "Moomba Performance Xross-Training, Los Angeles CA" wrote:>> I've only heard bad things about Goodyear M/Ts from people but every> time a magazine reviews them, they always seem to get good reviews. What> gives? Anyone else tried the Goodyear M/Ts? I'm going to be getting some> new tyres in the not too distant future and am debating whether to get> BFGs or try the new and improved Bridgestones M/Ts. I've been extremely> happy with my "old" thread-design Bridgestones. I'm also looking into> the Silverstones, if I can get them. I'll just throw the Goodyears in> there as another choice.
 As I was saying earlier, we've run the 31x11.5 Goodyear M/Ts on the TJ
 for over a year now.  We put plenty of miles on it sense then.  Its been
 to Pismo a couple times, Colorado once, Tahoe once, and now LA once.
 Its also a daily driver, when Jim Brink isn't holding it hostage (sorry,
 private joke :-).
 I've been pleased with on and off-road traction, but tread life is
 PATHETIC.  The tires cupped terribly, and Jim thinks a belt may have
 even lifted.  By the time we got back from our CO trip last year the
 front two tires had cupped terribly.  I don't see us every paying for
 another set.
 I'm very pleased with my Bridgestone MTs though...I'm even on my seconds
 set.
 Scott
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:02:23 EST
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: Needed:newer style rubber Tcase shifter knob
 subject says it all.  I need one for the extra Marlin shifter.  It needs to be
 the newer rubber style, and I prefer black.  E-mail me if you have one stuffed
 in a corner some where...
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:29:12 -0500
 From: crkjrk@mindspring.com
 Subject: Fw: oils and stuff
 IM reposting this one. I need some help to ?'s #2 and #3.  Eric J. from the
 list filled me in on the model code( #4) thanks E.J. and #1 I was able to
 figure out when I went to by some brake fluid. TIA
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 From: crkjrk@mindspring.com  To: toy 4x4 list  Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 1:41 PM
 Subject: oils and stuff>HI all,>>I have a few questions concerning maintenance on my 93 Toy  4x4 (22RE,
 5spd,>manual hubs,open diffs)>>1) what type of brake fluid can I use, my brake light sometimes comes
 on/off>fluid is between the min and max lines but is a little low. is DOT #3 the>right stuff or is there some other type I should use?>2) this concerns my diffs, transfer case, and transmission. looking in the>manual it says to use "SAE 75W-90" for the transmission, and transfer case.>either API GL-4 or       API GL-5... WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO?>for the diff's it says to use "SAE 90" for non A.D.D. can I use "SAE
 75W-90">in everything? (shure would be nice to buy a gallon jug of one kind of oil>for the diff's, transfer, and transmission) the diff's need to be changed>cause I got stuck in a VERY BIG mud hole for about 6hrs. Im sure I have
 some>water in the diffs (need to extend the breathers !!!) also would it be a>good idea to do the hubs? they turn fine and make no noise.>3) this one is about my steering wheel. its off center just a little
 (enough>to bug me though) alignment is ok. how would I center the steering wheel?
 is>this something that can be done by the average  2 banana monkey? with no>special tools?>4) the last one.... last night I looked at my MODEL code and compared it>with whats in the manual (just for "S & G's") got me thinking on what all>the letters and #'s stand for I know what most stand for but some I wonder>about. any body want to give this code a try??  RN110L - CRMDEAB.>I know that the "RN110" stands for "extra long wheelbase" (how long?)>what dose the "L" stand for ?>"C" stands for "extra cab">"R" stands for " steel low deck  single tires" whats a steel low deck?>"M" stands for " 5spd" what type 5spd? aren't there different ones?>"D" stands for "DXL" options package>"E,A,B" what do they stand for?>Boy am I "nit picky" or what :~)  Any how thanks in advance to all who>respond>post or email me direct.>Chris Kron>crkjrk@mindspring.com>93 4x4 xtra cab, 22RE, 31 BFG's, reworked Grizzly nerfs and brush guard.>soon to have new oils, extended diff breathers and shocks (not sure which>brand toss up over rancho and bilstiens.. I could use help on this one)>:~}
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:30:28 -0600
 From: michael  Subject: re rear coils
 The 95 4runner I use to have rode just fine after installing Downey's longer
 coils.  Can't remember if they were 1 1/2 or 2".  Looked 100% better, even
 when loaded with gear.  Honestly, I couldn't tell any diiference in the
 ride.  The kit came with Doestch Tech shocks and a stainless steel brake line.
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:43:10 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Easter Jeep Safari-Moab
 I plan to be there for about a week this year.
 John Lange wrote:>> Just being nosey and wondering how many of you on this list will be at the> Safari this year?   Yours truly, J.B. Lange>> 97 4Runner Rockcrawler, 81 SR5 Ultra bobbed in da making, TLCA member,> www.geocities.com/baja/trails/1282/>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Off-Road.Com Toyota section editor, Album page editor
 Marlin case #103, 33" tires, All Pro Solid axle conversion
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 99 22:52:00 -0500
 From: Rosenberger Bud  Subject: RE: Tire carrier rust release> Just a quick qestion on a problem that probably about 90% of> everyone with a> 89 or older truck or 4-runner has.  The spare tire carrier> underneth the> truck that has the chain crank down deal.  Does anyone know> of any tips or> tricks on how to free that baby up? Mine seems to be totally> seized up and> I'm really at a loss short of cutting it down and replacing> the crank deal.
 I stuck a cutting torch between the frame and the body ( 4Runner and cut
 the 3( or 4) bolt heads off and removed the chain crank assembly.  I
 literally beat it up with a hammer to knock the rust off of it.  I pulled
 off the c clipa nd drove the pin out of the middle of it.  I wire brushed
 and cleaned it all up and reassembled it with never seize.  I was able to
 get the torched off bolt ends out and just used new hardware.  It works
 well, but I may replace the chain before long.  It is pretty rusty and
 I'd hate to lose that tire at highway speeds.
 HTH'
 Bud
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 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:25:31 EST
 From: Iwheel4x4@aol.com
 Subject: Re: Torsion lift-coils and shocks?> So all you have to do is turn up your bars in the front and add a leaf>  in the rear and you can get a 2 inch lift out of>  this? but will it hold and not sag in acouple of yrs? and what size>  tires can you run if you do mudding and novice off-roading? 32x11.50's>  ?   what about the coils and shocks should they be replaced and what>  size and kind?>  any info on this would be helpful because i would seriously consider>  doing this if its cheap and possible.
 What model and year truck do you have?  If you have coils, you don't have leaf
 springs.  If you have IFS, you can turn up the torsion bars for about a 1 -
 1.5" lift up front.  Then you could add a leaf or re-arch the rear springs (if
 you have leaf springs) or get new, longer coil springs (if you have coil
 springs in the rear).  This combination will give you about a 1 - 2" overall
 lift.  It's pretty cheap ($160 for coils) and not too hard to do by yourself.
 You will at least need new shocks in the rear though for the added height and
 articulation.
 Allen Dickenson     IWheel4x4@aol.com
 http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/8895/
 1995 4Runner Limited - "FT KNOX" - Downey 1.5" rear lift springs, t-bars
 cranked, ARB Bull Bar, Rancho RS9000?s front, RS5000?s rear, 31x10.5 BFG
 A/T?s, K&N drop-in, raised diff. breathers, low-profile bumpstops, Smittybilt
 Nerf Bars, Warn Premium hubs, Hella 100W 500's.
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 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:28:06 EST
 From: Iwheel4x4@aol.com
 Subject: Re: Head gaskets> I have a 93 Toy V6 4X4 and have read about the head gaskets on the V6's. I>  was wondering if they should be replaced after 70k miles? The truck is I>  think at about 68k now. Anyone care to advise on the cost and worthiness of>  this?
 The gasket replacement is free from Toyota.  There are a few other things you
 should consider while it's in for the service though....timing belt, water
 pump, seals, etc.
 Allen Dickenson     IWheel4x4@aol.com
 http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/8895/
 1995 4Runner Limited - "FT KNOX" - Downey 1.5" rear lift springs, t-bars
 cranked, ARB Bull Bar, Rancho RS9000?s front, RS5000?s rear, 31x10.5 BFG
 A/T?s, K&N drop-in, raised diff. breathers, low-profile bumpstops, Smittybilt
 Nerf Bars, Warn Premium hubs, Hella 100W 500's.
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 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:58:06 -0800
 From: "Calwest"  Subject: Airbag and leaf spring suspension questions...
 Have any of you suspension gurus used airbag suspensions to increase lift?
 And is it possible to mount them on the front solid axle (leaf springs)? Any
 drawbacks to this? My truck suffers from the old saggy butt syndrome and I
 can't afford a new set of springs. I've also thought about getting the
 springs re-arched. Anybody know what this costs and who does it?
 Thanks in advance!
 Mike Tiffany
 '84 Longbed 173,000... :>)
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 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:59:12 +0200
 From: Xander Botha  Subject: Engine numbers
 Hi,
 I live in South Africa and have a 1994 4x4 Toyota Hilux with a 2.2 litre
 petrol (gas) engine with a 4Y prefix.  What would be the closest American
 model?  22R?
 The reason I'm asking is that I bought a Chilton's repair manual which does
 not have the 4Y engine listed...
 Xander Botha
 Design Engineer - Tellumat
 Tel: +27 21 7102489
 Fax: +27 21 7102693
 E-mail: abotha@tellumat.com
 Web: http://www.plessey.com/microwave
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 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:41:10 -0800
 From: David Gibbs  Subject: 65 hp perf pkg
 Dave Yeski wrote:
 Truck Performance Accesories claims to be able to put together a package
 that will produce an additional 65 horsepower.  The package is said to
 contain an Ignition, Headers, Cat-back exhaust, and Intake.  What do you
 think??
 Dave, how much do they want for this package?  Does anyone think it will
 come close to 65 hp?  Also, is anyone selling shocks?
 David Gibbs
 88 4runner SR5 V6
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 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:21:49 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: Engine numbers
 Xander Botha wrote:>> Hi,>> I live in South Africa and have a 1994 4x4 Toyota Hilux with a 2.2 litre> petrol (gas) engine with a 4Y prefix.  What would be the closest American> model?  22R?>> The reason I'm asking is that I bought a Chilton's repair manual which does> not have the 4Y engine listed...
 Xander,
 E-mail this fellow: hbrimmer@ix.netcom.com
 He has access to Gregory's Manuals of Australia. I have personally seen
 the manual that covers Hilux trucks with the 4Y engine and I can say it
 is quite comprehensive.
 Good luck.
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 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:02:38 -0800
 From: "Jason Gee"  Subject: Personal Bio Info
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 Personal Bio Info
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 Personal Bio Info
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 Name:Jason Gee
 City & State:San Jose, CA
 Country:USA
 E-mail address:Brutpwr@earthlink.net
 Toyota (s) year & model:  80 2wd SR-5 longbed pickup(custom lowered mini)--I
 have two of these!!!, 83 2wd shortbed
 pickup(lowered convertible hardtop), 84 4x4 Xtracab "chop-top"
 convertible (trail only rig--
 "green sticker" registered), 78 & 80 Toyota
 celica's (will never see road use again as to
 many parts have been pirated from them to keep the
 other trucks running)
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):No TCLA# yet...
 Age:36
 Occupation:Material Handling (full-time), motorcycle parts and accessories
 sales (part-time)
 Marital Status:Single
 Hobbies:Dirtbike/ATV's, car, truck, buggy racing/recreational "wheeling"
 etc...
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:Been in "lurk mode"
 since the beginning--back when their was only
 the TCLA digest!!!
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:Also own/drive 74 Chevy 3/4 ton
 4x4, 71 Jeep Wagoneer, 70 Camero, 64
 Oldsmobile, 71 Nova, 56 & 76
 Buick Century's, and more bikes/atv/jetski's
 than I care to mention...
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