Toyota 4x4 digest:      Sunday, November 8 1998      Volume 02 : Number 174
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 Re: BANG ! RATTLE,RATTLE,RATTLE!!!
 Re: TRD supercharger
 TPS
 Re: TRD supercharger
 Hubs
 Off-road lights
 RE: Stock stereo.....
 Re: Toyota Tacoma and RS5000s
 Bio for Seth Lavinder
 4WheelerTV
 RE: Cheap auto body parts
 1997 Tacoma
 LC timing chain
 Re: 1997 Tacoma
 Body lift for sale
 2" body lift for sale
 Re: 2" body lift for sale
 Re: 2" body lift for sale
 Fw: Welcome to toy4x4-digest
 Re: 2" body lift for sale
 Re: "Super" XtraCab Yota in England?
 welder for nerfs
 Re: welder for nerfs
 Re: Cheap auto body parts
 Later guys and gals
 33x9.50 bfg mt
 Re: 1997 Tacoma
 Re: 33x9.50 bfg mt
 22R - 22RE for $50
 Exhaust system
 Re: Exhaust system
 Re: Exhaust system
 Shock Question
 Re: Shock Question
 Re: Shock Question
 Re: Exhaust system
 Re: tps questions(long and confusing )
 RE:Lights
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 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 21:03:14 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: BANG ! RATTLE,RATTLE,RATTLE!!!
 ward wrote: (sadly)>> So there I was,  doi'n about 70 down the highway comming home from work.  I> looked in the rearview and noticed lots of smoke...........blue smoke.  I> looked down at the oil pres gauge, between 40 & 60. About that time BANG!> RATTLE,RATTLE,RATTLE,!!!>      A friend towed me home.  I looked through the spark plug holes while my> wife turned it over (I'm thinking I droped a valve) but # 3 piston wasn't> moveing.  I pull the head off and it and the top of the piston are chewed up> pretty bad.  I pull the oil pan and dissconected the rod cap, push the> piston up through,  and found the piston boke at the oil ring !!  the top> came off like it was a cap or something.  the rod, wrist pin, and piston> skirt are all still conected!  the two comp. rings are broken and seem to be> welded to the piston.  Anyway its ugly!>       Anybody ever see anything like that before?
 Yep, seen it. Don't know about your particular situation but in the
 cases I've seen, the cause was excessive detonation (ping).
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 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:20:57 -0800
 From: "Kenneth Sigel"  Subject: Re: TRD supercharger
 NWOR used to have one for EFI trucks, but they don't carry it anymore.
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 From: Dan Boucher >Kenneth Sigel wrote:>>>> Anyone have a supercharger for a 22RE?>>>Camden Superchargers has a kit for the 22R.  It will fit if you are>willing to go for a Holley carb.  Also B&M did make a supercharger for>the 22R.  I am not sure if the B&M ones are still made.
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 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:13:24 +0000
 From: "shaun"  Subject: TPS
 Tim, I learned ALL about the TPS the hard way very recently.  First
 of all a lot of the same problems you are running into are the ones I
 had as well.  The part numbers dont match up because the numbers were
 "superceded" by Toyota.  Even the inside of the TPS spring loaded
 lever looks a little different.  With my vehicle, which is an 88 V6
 4Runner the original part number was 89452-28030 and the new ( made
 in 98 ) TPS I just ordered and installed has a part number of
 89452-20050.  So if these numbers match for you than you're okay.
 I don't think that there would be any reason anyone would change the
 actual throttle body on the vehicle and, if they did, I would think
 that they would make a direct replacement.  As far as I know there
 are no other directly installable throttle bodies that are better for
 performance so I cant imagine anyone changing the actual type of
 throttle body for any reason.  It is possible to slightly bore out a
 throttle body up to 4mm's larger inner diameter I think.  But, this
 would not change the throttle body in terms of its part number, just
 in terms of its capacity to suck air.
 One other thing and then I'll shut up...if you have an auto tranny
 like I do, the TPS is really finicky.  I mean I tried using a .622mm
 feeler guage to adjust the TPS.  The manual instructed the use of a
 .62mm gauge and I did not have that size so I figured that .002mm
 couldn't possibly make a difference.  Well, guess what it did; my
 shift points were slightly off and uncomfortable and my idle rpm was
 off as well.  I eventually ordered a feeler guage set that had .62mm
 in it as a combination of .55mm and .07mm and when I used the exact
 setting, the thing ran wonderfully!!!  It blew my mind that it was
 that close.  I dont know if it would matter that much with a
 manual transmission but on the autos it sure does.  Also, Ed Wong
 gave me a great tip.  Change the screws that hold down the sensor
 with 5mm hex bolts so that you can get a better grip on them in the
 future.  Hope this helps
 Shaun, Colorado Springs, Colo
 1988 V6 4Runner SR5 Auto Tranny
 address:  trinity@codenet.net
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 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 22:44:44 -0800
 From: Dan Boucher  Subject: Re: TRD supercharger
 Kenneth Sigel wrote:>> NWOR used to have one for EFI trucks, but they don't carry it anymore.> Are you sure it was for a 22RE.  I only thought the ones anyone made
 were for the 22Rs.  Maybe I am wrong.  Anybody else?
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 22:32:46 -0800
 From: Leo Castaneda  Subject: Hubs
 Left and right hubs are the same.   You'll have to buy a pair, I don't
 think they come individually. Tip: Use the factory automatic hubs as
 your spare.> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:58:25 -0600 (CST)> From: pelland@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Hubs>> I am looking to buy a spare manual hub to keep in my parts box.> This may be a silly question but are the left and right hubs the same?> Seems to me that they just lock the axle and should be nondirectional. But can> someone confirm this for me.> ============================================================================
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 00:21:54 -0800
 From: Greg Sue  Subject: Off-road lights
 Here in British Columbia, the way to tell the 'wheelers from the show
 trucks is the show trucks will have a nice, neat, perfectly-aligned row
 of lights above the roof line.  :)
 A lot of the terrain here is overgrown forest, and when 'wheeling you
 will take out overhead lights pretty quick.  I even have to run shock
 springs on my front-fender-mounted antennas, or the low branches will
 put a bend in them (I have nice scratches across my hood and up over my
 roof).  When night-'wheeling along a dense, twisty trail, I find that my
 80/100w H4 headlights do not provide adequate light out to the sides;
 they are pointed straight ahead instead of where I need them.
 Obviously, driving or pencil-beam lights are useless in my situation.
 James Stevenson has suggested I pick up a set of Hella Rally 4000
 wide-cornering lights; Hellas because of their quality, durability, and
 willingness to publish specifications, and wide-cornering because they
 are designed exactly for what I need.  Unfortunately, they are quite
 expensive up here, so they are a "later" item.
 Humourous note:  listening to the scanner at work; the local police just
 pulled a guy over, and found that he was driving with an expired drivers
 license.  It expired in 1990!
 Greg Sue
 no-clue@mindless.com
 http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9948/
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 08:20:33 -0700 (MST)
 From: prpltoy@webtv.net (Dirty Truck)
 Subject: RE: Stock stereo.....
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 Keith....
 I work in the car electronics industry... I have now for over 8 years...
 Whatever you do dont buy JUNK from Crutchfield... They are not any more
 cost effective than buying it from your local retailer... As for the
 Eclipse decks, not all of the models plug right into the Toyota
 harness.. You need to get the 5341 "R" or better for that to work
 right... However the Eclipse deck is one of the best in the industry as
 far as skippage goes in Toyotas.. The NEW Kenwoods have a MASK system in
 which the deck hides its self when you turn your ignition off... This is
 the coolest feature due to the fact that in your Toy it appears to not
 have a radio in it at all... Think about what your buying before you BUY
 from Crutchfield...(remember, they are NOT a bargin, your local retailer
 will match any price they have and give you BETTER service)
 Scott
 The Stereo Shoppe
 Boise, ID (208)378-0000
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 11:30:50 -0500
 From: Chris Caldwell  Subject: Re: Toyota Tacoma and RS5000s
 Dave Smith wrote:> Now that I've driven twenty miles or so.. THEY ARE AWESOME.> My truck handles better than it ever has.  Bumps are meaningless and I> don't feel the unstable ride like before at all, even at high speeds on> those crazy concrete freeways!  Way to go Rancho.
 I most probably will have a new set of these RS5K's for the front of a
 Tacoma to sell in about 4 weeks. They'll be new and never installed. I
 figure $60 plus shipping is a good deal for someone. E-mail me directly
 if anyone is interested please.
 Chris C.
 caldwell@vol.com
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 11:25:47 -0500
 From: Seth Lavinder  Subject: Bio for Seth Lavinder
 ===========================
 Personal Bio Info
 ===========================
 Name:  Seth Lavinder
 City & State:  Charleston, WV
 Country: USA
 E-mail address:  dupont@newwave.net
 Toyota (s) year & model: 1993 Reg Cab 4x4 PU
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
 Age: 19
 Occupation: Computer Technician
 Marital Status: Single
 Hobbies: Amateur Radio, 4 Wheeling, Computers, Internet
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: www.offroad.com
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
 1993 TOYOTA 4x4 Regular Cab PU
 22RE 4Cyl, 5 Speed
 Stock 4.10 gearing
 Sidewinder 30x9.50" AT
 RANCHO 5000
 K&N Air Filter (BIG DIFFERENCE)
 See web page at :  http://www.newwave.net/~seth/index2.htm
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 08:33:48 -0800
 From: "Moomba Performance Xross-Training, Los Angeles CA"  Subject: 4WheelerTV
 Hey y'all,
 Just a reminder that 4WheelerTV will be on Monday 3.30 p.m. PST and 6.30
 p.m. EST.
 Shawn Ooi    moomba@worldnet.att.net    (213) 960 7631
 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5    192K    Rear EZ-Lockers    4.56 gears
 Eibach 2" lift    2" body-lift    RS9000s    32" Bridgestone M/Ts
 http://homepages.infoseek.com/~welldonesr5/index.html
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:45:51 -0500
 From: "Ken Flesher"  Subject: RE: Cheap auto body parts
 A word of warning: I have had several body shops tell me to NEVER put
 anything but original Toyota parts on for body parts. The cheapo aftermarket
 parts don't fit right, are thinner, and they rust out early. I had to
 replace a front fender, bumper, & valence on mine awhile ago (don't ask),
 and my insurance company (State Farm) told me they always insist on Toyota
 parts when dealing with body shops, as it's cheaper for them in the long
 run.
 I suppose if you're fixing a beater that sees more rocks and mud than
 pavement, it won't matter. But if you wanna keep your rig for the long haul,
 beware.
 - -KLF
 '92 4Runner SR5 V6> I called the 'Levan Group' place that Robert Elsmore talked about and WOW> their prices are cheap!  Unfortunately,they don't ship to the east coast.> Does anyone know of an equivalent place on the east coast or> nationally that> will ship?
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 09:10:33 -0800
 From: Joey Campos  Subject: 1997 Tacoma
 Help, need info to obtain add 1" lift susp. to my  truck. Installed a 2"
 Rancho lift kit, running 32: tires w/ 15X8 rim, tires rub on the inside of
 fender wheels on L/R turns. I was looking into a
 2" body lift?  Really I need a1" lift ,please help. Anybody  know
 how...thanks
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 09:34:49 -0800
 From: "aguila@sirius.com"  Subject: LC timing chain
 I was talking to a mechanic about the LC timing kit and he said that
 bacause of the metal guides as opposed to plastic guides in the stock
 kit it will be nosier.Is this something i should be concern about ? or
 is he wrong.Thanks
 89 X-cab,22re,150k,
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 09:58:16 -0800
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: 1997 Tacoma
 You can buy a uerethane body and cab kit and double it with the stock mounts
 to get your inch I think..
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 From: Joey Campos  To:  Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 9:15 AM
 Subject: 1997 Tacoma>Help, need info to obtain add 1" lift susp. to my  truck. Installed a 2">Rancho lift kit, running 32: tires w/ 15X8 rim, tires rub on the inside of>fender wheels on L/R turns. I was looking into a>2" body lift?  Really I need a1" lift ,please help. Anybody  know>how...thanks>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 11:00:50 +0000
 From: Menko Johnson  Subject: Body lift for sale
 I have a new performance accessories 2" body lift in the box i just ain't going to use.  Anyone want it?  I paid $57 for it.  let me know if you're interested.  I live in the LA area, but if you want to ship it, fine with me.
 Menko
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 Menko Johnson (mjohnson@benson.mckenna.edu)
 Kravis Leadership Institute
 Claremont, CA 91711
 (909) 607-7030 or 621-8743
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 11:04:57 +0000
 From: Menko Johnson  Subject: 2" body lift for sale
 happens to be for a 84-88 4runner or truck
 sorry ;-)
 MJ
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 Menko Johnson (mjohnson@benson.mckenna.edu)
 Kravis Leadership Institute
 Claremont, CA 91711
 (909) 607-7030 or 621-8743
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 12:32:19 -0800
 From: Hollis Ferris  Subject: Re: 2" body lift for sale
 Menko Johnson wrote:>> happens to be for a 84-88 4runner or truck
 Is it for an auto or a 5 speeed......  Hollis
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:41:07 -0800
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: 2" body lift for sale
 same lift..
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Hollis Ferris  To:  Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 11:35 AM
 Subject: Re: 2" body lift for sale>Menko Johnson wrote:>>>> happens to be for a 84-88 4runner or truck>>>Is it for an auto or a 5 speeed......  Hollis>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:27:35 -0500
 From: "Robert S. Powell"  Subject: Fw: Welcome to toy4x4-digest
 ===========================
 Personal Bio Info
 ===========================
 POST TO THE LIST ONLY>> toy4x4@tlca.org
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Name:Robert Powell
 City & State:Columbia, SC
 Country:USA
 E-mail address: rpowell@scsupernet.com
 Toyota (s) year & model:1980 FJ-40, 1995 Tacoma 4x4
 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):yes 6677
 Age:30
 Occupation:paramedic
 Marital Status:single
 Hobbies:backpacking, rock climbing, fishing, working on my Landcruiser and
 Fiat Spider
 How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:been a subscriber to
 the Cruiser mailing list for a while
 General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:the Cruiser is mostly stock
 other than a 2" lift, Warn 8274, Hella driving lights, it's slowly having
 the body prep'd for painting.   The Tacoma is an extra-cab, V-6, SR-5, the
 only modifications to it (so far) are Bilstien shocks and a Rhino Liner;
 hopefully it will be getting new springs/shocks as soon as the Fiat goes
 back on the road
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 13:38:46 -0800
 From: Hollis Ferris  Subject: Re: 2" body lift for sale
 Brandon Miller wrote:>> same lift..
 2 diffrent lifts!
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:35:53 +0100
 From: "Toyotaro"  Subject: Re: "Super" XtraCab Yota in England?
 And did you like the Netherlands Roland? (exept for the sex, drugs and
 rocknroll offcourse)
 You know all dutch Taro crewcabs has solids until '96? Not for the Toys,
 they started the IFS thing after '92.
 Marco Schotman, the Netherlands
 *Toyotaro* ( VW-Taro 4x4 crewcab)
 35x14,5 Mickey Thompson
 http://people.zeelandnet.nl/schotman>Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 19:31:00 -0500>From: roland >Subject: Re: "Super" XtraCab Yota in England?>>While I was in the Netherlands about a year ago I saw some of the Yota's>there, quad cab, shorty bed, 90s body style and solid front axle.  Some>of these were also badged as VW's.
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:19:05 -0700 (MST)
 From: Buter Gregory A  Subject: welder for nerfs
 i am wondering how much your total cost will be for the nerf bars.
 including materials, and the welding.  i will have to do this soon and
 want to know what to expect.
 thanx__> greg
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 15:32:18 -0800
 From: Hollis Ferris  Subject: Re: welder for nerfs
 Buter Gregory A wrote:>> i am wondering how much your total cost will be for the nerf bars.> including materials, and the welding.  i will have to do this soon and> want to know what to expect.> thanx__>> greg> It all depends on: What type of material you use, thickness, box or
 tubing, what your local welder charges by the hour and what he charges
 for material, I would guess at least $80.00, but thats just a ballpark
 figure let me know what your plans are, and I will try to be more help!
<> 88 xtracab
 84 shortbed!> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 18:34:33 -0800
 From: Dan Boucher  Subject: Re: Cheap auto body parts
 About aftermarket parts.  I am just adding my $0.02.  All parts are not
 equal.  I have purchased some and they fit no problem.  As for being
 thinner I am not sure of that.  As for the rusting of them they don't
 rust because they are aftermarket. they rust because they are not
 prepped properly.  I am not an aftermarket advocate but done right you
 will save money in the long run.  The primer they put on is just a
 shipping primer.  It is not an OEM 'E' coat primer.  If you just paint
 over that yes it will rust.  You should seal it before painting which a
 reputable bodyshop should do before painting.  They should seal all
 replacement parts OEM or not.  When you buy a new part and then paint,
 it does not have enough film build to offer any type of protection from
 rock chips,etcc..
 Anyway to wrap up.  You can use aftermarket parts.  They are less
 expensive and if prepped right will be cheaper. They may or may not need
 a tweak to fit but if it really sucks then send it back and get another
 one.  Chances are that one will fit.
 Not to brag or anything but I am an autobody mechanic and welcome any
 questions about this.
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 18:11:13 -0800
 From: "Todd and Terry Steele"  Subject: Later guys and gals
 Well, it's off to fly the flag due to my job.  I'll be back on the list
 around the beginning of summer.  Thanks for everyone's help, ideas and IFS
 arguments.  Hope to see everyone at Rubicon this summer.
 Later
 Todd
 His:  87 Toyota 4X4, Marlin Tcase #180, EZ Lockers F/R, Warn MX8000, Custom
 rear bumper and nerfs, Ramsey F bumper, Trailmaster/Superlift 4", 33-9.5 BFG
 MT's.  Custom Body by Sierra Nevada.
 Hers:  93 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 4.0 I-6, 30-9.50-15 Bridgestone Dueler AT's.
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 19:22:31 -0700 (MST)
 From: Buter Gregory A  Subject: 33x9.50 bfg mt
 Does anyone run 33x9.5 bfg mt tires on their 4runners?  i am thinking of
 doing it.  i know they wont look as cool, but they will function well,
 they will be light, and they will hopefully slip before anything breaks.
 i think it will help me pick thinner lines too.  any ideas will be great.
 how much lift over stock, will i need to clear them? does bfg make them in
 10.5?
 thanx alot__> greg
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 18:59:07 -0800
 From: "Kenneth H. Fong"  Subject: Re: 1997 Tacoma
 Did you install the kit with blocks in the back?  My friend did the Rancho front
 springs with rs5000's and rear blocks.  The problem with the rear is that the
 parking brake cables are touching the top of the springs.  Just wanted to see if
 there's a fix for that.
 Joey Campos wrote:> Help, need info to obtain add 1" lift susp. to my  truck. Installed a 2"> Rancho lift kit, running 32: tires w/ 15X8 rim, tires rub on the inside of> fender wheels on L/R turns. I was looking into a> 2" body lift?  Really I need a1" lift ,please help. Anybody  know> how...thanks>> ============================================================================> Toyota 4x4 page: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/toyota
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 San Francisco State University
 http://mercury.sfsu.edu/~stealth
 415-605-7276
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 19:17:38 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: 33x9.50 bfg mt
 There are a few people running those tires at least two toys I have wheeled
 with have them and they sure did work well on the rocks. I use a 33 X 9.50
 as my spare tire as it is the same hight as my 33 X 12.50's>Does anyone run 33x9.5 bfg mt tires on their 4runners?
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 Off-Road.Com Toyota section editor, Album page editor
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:32:55 -0500
 From: "C. Andrew Zook"  Subject: 22R - 22RE for $50
 I was at the junkyard today and happened to notice an '84 Celica with a
 blown engine. Everything was there including an unmolested wiring harness.
 This car has a 22RE and the EFI intake appears to be EXACTLY
 the same as my '85 4Runner. I was thinking about trying to swap the intake
 and computer into my '84 extra cab - with a 22r
 I was wondering if anyone has done this swap? can it be done with all Celica
 parts or do I need parts from a p/u or 4runner as well?
 I was thinking that I will probably take:
 entire intake
 wiring harness including computer
 Valve cover
 exaust manifold
 all of the sensors
 cam
 distributor
 coil/ignitor
 I don't think that I need the entire head, does anyone know?
 Can I keep my current cam?
 I am pretty sure that my throttle cable will not work...will the Celica
 cable work?
 I will probably need to get a truck air box since the celica one is
 different.
 If this works, these things are a dime a dozen. Every junkyard around
 has at least a couple of them, and it would appear that no one has much
 interest in them.The junkyard said I can have it all for $50
 I will probably just spend the $50 and try it. If it works, YIPPIE! If
 not...oh well, only $50
 If anyone has any input, email me! I am on digest mode here at home!
 _________________________________________
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 23:45:09 -0500
 From: Seth Lavinder  Subject: Exhaust system
 Dollar to dollar / performance to performance which should I consider
 Borla or Flowmaster cat-back systems??
 Have a friend with a S-10 and Flowmaster Sounds great!!  But of course
 that's with a 4.3 Vortec blowing into it,  how's a 22RE going to
 compare??
 Seth Lavinder
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 1993 Toyota 4x4 Reg. Cab PU
 22RE 4-Cyl, 5-Spd, AC, PS, PB
 30x9.50" Sidewinder Radial AT on Stock Wheels
 4.10 Stock gearing
 Rancho RS5000 doing a great job on all 4 corners
 K&N Air Filter helping it breathe
 Complete custom stereo installation
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:14:32 -0800
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: Exhaust system
 Dollar for dollar flowmaster of course but that is because it is dirt cheap
 next to Borla, I am sure it is good just out of my budget, no probs with my
 flowmaster though - and I had it warranteed once cause it cracked.  I got a
 new one installed for free..
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 From: Seth Lavinder  To: Toyota 4x4 List  Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 8:50 PM
 Subject: Exhaust system>>Dollar to dollar / performance to performance which should I consider>>Borla or Flowmaster cat-back systems??>>Have a friend with a S-10 and Flowmaster Sounds great!!  But of course>that's with a 4.3 Vortec blowing into it,  how's a 22RE going to>compare??>>Seth Lavinder>>-->1993 Toyota 4x4 Reg. Cab PU>22RE 4-Cyl, 5-Spd, AC, PS, PB>30x9.50" Sidewinder Radial AT on Stock Wheels>4.10 Stock gearing>Rancho RS5000 doing a great job on all 4 corners>K&N Air Filter helping it breathe>Complete custom stereo installation>>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:39:50 -0800
 From: "jskaggs"  Subject: Re: Exhaust system
 Instead of getting one of those systems go to an exhaust shop and have them
 install the tubing you need and put on a Magna Flow muffler it should be a
 lot cheaper and the Magna Flow mufflers are built very well and IMO they
 sound good too.
 John Skaggs
 Member of TLCA# 5560, High Sierra Toyota's, Toys 4 Fun and Blue Ribbon
 Coalition
 thunder90@msn.com
 Visalia, CA
 85 4Runner>Dollar to dollar / performance to performance which should I consider>>Borla or Flowmaster cat-back systems??>>Have a friend with a S-10 and Flowmaster Sounds great!!  But of course>that's with a 4.3 Vortec blowing into it,  how's a 22RE going to>compare??>>Seth Lavinder>>-->1993 Toyota 4x4 Reg. Cab PU>22RE 4-Cyl, 5-Spd, AC, PS, PB>30x9.50" Sidewinder Radial AT on Stock Wheels>4.10 Stock gearing>Rancho RS5000 doing a great job on all 4 corners>K&N Air Filter helping it breathe>Complete custom stereo installation>>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 00:50:32 -0500
 From: Seth Lavinder  Subject: Shock Question
 I have a question about my recently installed shocks,  Im worried about
 wheel travel,  not being really aware of the many factors involved, I
 simply called up Sears and told them I drive a 93 TOY 4x4 PU and they
 handed me four RS5000 when I went to the store,  well I have went on to
 trips to the local trail since their installation and it seems that I am
 3 wheeling 10 times more often then I used to,  not sure but Im worried
 I have lost a deal of wheel travel ,  anything less than or near stock
 wheel travel SUCKS,  what can I do to resolve this problem??   I just
 shelled out $160.00 on these shocks and cant loose out on them 500 miles
 into their life.
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 http://www.newwave.net/~seth
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 MY TRUCK:
 1993 Toyota 4x4 Reg. Cab PU
 22RE 4-Cyl, 5-Spd, AC, PS, PB
 30x9.50" Sidewinder Radial AT on Stock Wheels
 4.10 Stock gearing
 Rancho RS5000 doing a great job on all 4 corners
 K&N Air Filter helping it breathe
 Complete custom stereo installation
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 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:59:18 -0800
 From: "Brandon Miller"  Subject: Re: Shock Question
 Put zip ties on the pistons - rip off the boots so you can see them.  When
 the shock compresses the zip tie goes up with it and stays up.  If you take
 a look and the zip ties are all the way up then the shocks are too long..
 - -----Original Message-----
 From: Seth Lavinder  To: Toyota 4x4 List  Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 9:54 PM
 Subject: Shock Question>>I have a question about my recently installed shocks,  Im worried about>wheel travel,  not being really aware of the many factors involved, I>simply called up Sears and told them I drive a 93 TOY 4x4 PU and they>handed me four RS5000 when I went to the store,  well I have went on to>trips to the local trail since their installation and it seems that I am>3 wheeling 10 times more often then I used to,  not sure but Im worried>I have lost a deal of wheel travel ,  anything less than or near stock>wheel travel SUCKS,  what can I do to resolve this problem??   I just>shelled out $160.00 on these shocks and cant loose out on them 500 miles>into their life.>>-->Seth Lavinder - Computer Tech>http://www.newwave.net/~seth>------------------------------------------------>MY TRUCK:>1993 Toyota 4x4 Reg. Cab PU>22RE 4-Cyl, 5-Spd, AC, PS, PB>30x9.50" Sidewinder Radial AT on Stock Wheels>4.10 Stock gearing>Rancho RS5000 doing a great job on all 4 corners>K&N Air Filter helping it breathe>Complete custom stereo installation>>>>===========================================================================
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 22:23:12 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Shock Question
 To quote from my rancho shock guide on off road.com "most parts guys have
 no idea what you need and end up guessing."
 http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/shocks/
 You should never tell a parts guy what your driving. Measure the suspension
 in full articulation and then order the shocks your truck needs.>I have a question about my recently installed shocks,  Im worried about>wheel travel,  not being really aware of the many factors involved, I>simply called up Sears and told them I drive a 93 TOY 4x4 PU and they>handed me four RS5000 when I went to the store,
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 Off-Road.Com Toyota section editor, Album page editor
 geiger@off-road.com
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 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 22:26:59 -0800
 From: Chris Geiger  Subject: Re: Exhaust system>Instead of getting one of those systems go to an exhaust shop and have them>install the tubing you need and put on a Magna Flow muffler it should be a>lot cheaper and the Magna Flow mufflers are built very well and IMO they>sound good too.
 I got a second that, it's a great muffler and it is much smaller than
 stock. I was able to have the local mullfer build a complete system for
 $170 (cat back). it's made from 2.5" tubing and is much higher than stock
 for better clearence.
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 Off-Road.Com Toyota section editor, Album page editor
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 00:18:08 -0800
 From: Jim Brink  Subject: Re: tps questions(long and confusing )
 Tim Brewers wrote:>> I have a few questions about my tps.  First my truck is running quite bad> and is idling irratically(sp?)   I tested my tps and it wasn't in speck and> so I went to my dealer and ordered a new one.  It came and was not the right> one.  I brought it back and the parts guy ran my vin number again and came> up with the same one he sold me.  I then checked the part number on the> original (or maybe not) one and it was a different part number than he came> up with.  He said that the one that is on my truck was made from like 5/88> to something like 3/89 my truck was produced 6/89 so I should have the one> he ordered me but I don't?????    He said that maybe the whole throttle body> was replaced at some time.  Any ideas why someone would change a throttle> body?
 Not likely.>> I  kind of knew the guy that had the truck before me and I very highly doubt> that he would do something like this unless he had to.   (like a new engine> or something)>> So my question is had anyone heard of this before?  Or why did Toyota change> the tps on the v-6's only after a couple of months?(Jim?)  I thought that> maybe the dealers' computers were screwed up because every time I have> ordered something from them it has been the wrong part and every time they> have taken it right from my vin number.    Anyway thanks for the help and> ideas, sorry this is so long.
 Toyota updates parts constantly, either changing due to
 service/reliablilty problems, or due to parts suppliers and parts costs.
 It's normal to replace an original part with one that has a different
 part number. In many cases, an updated part will fit a larger number of
 applications (like the new US-made oil filters that no one likes, for
 some strange reason). This makes manufacturing and parts
 supply/distrobution cheaper and less complicated.
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 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:27:11 EST
 From: "james stevenson"  Subject: RE:Lights>I am going to be installing a whole new lighting system. I do a lot>of rockcrawling so that is a big consideration.  wondering what>configuration the other night hounds out ther used.  I mean, floods>(euro beam) up front and pencil beams on top?
 My suggestion is to first replace the headlamps with Hella Units. This
 is the first thing I do with all my trucks and oh yeah put in the
 90/145W bulbs. I then put on a pair of Hella Ralye 1000 Wide cornering
 Fog lamps on the bull bar. These give you light below the high beams and
 have a really wide beam that will wrap around the front of the rig and
 show you stuff beside the doors. Next step is to add some Hella
 Worklamps (robber bodied one) I usually go for the Dual beam units but
 the main thing is to use  floodlamps. I place these just behind the
 Tcase up on the Centre bearing crossmember. This keeps them out of the
 way and lights all the wheels. Last up and this is where I disagree with
 a lot of you  I put lights up on the roll bar. Most of my trucks have
 4-6 Hella Rallye's 2000's in pencil beams. These do not cause light to
 reflect back off the hood. The idea is to have a pencil beam so that
 this does not happen and to use multiple lamps to get a wide beam of
 light. One of my trucks has 4 Predators on the rollbar. IMHO you cant
 get a better light, although you pay for it. Last up I put 2 Hella Dual
 beam floodlamps on the roll bar pointing back. These are great for
 reversing in tight country and for seeing stuff in the bed. As for
 wiring them up.
 If I'm up front I tend to have all my lights on, with the exception of
 the reversing floods. If I have someone in front of me I obviously turn
 off the top lamps so they can see. The huge amount of light usually puts
 me up front. The more you turn night into day the easier the wheeling
 becomes. The trick to place your lamps where you need them as to fill
 any black spots. If you are doing your lamps in stages I'd say the most
 important is to replace the headlamps, globes and harness. Then fit
 reversing floodlamps, wide cornering  fogs on the bulbar, underbody
 lamps and last the top pencil beams. A mate of mine has also added some
 floods on the axle which turn with the steering. I have been meaning to
 add these for a few months but just haven't had the time,  although it
 really simple to add the brackets.
 I replaced the Toyota headlamp harness, as its not much chop. The
 headlamps are now wired with 4 relays (2 for each headlamp) and a normal
 negative earth rather than the positive as standard. I also no longer
 use fuses in the wiring but have installed marine thermal circuit
 breakers (auto reset). All in all the new headlamp harness adds 20-30%
 to the brightness of the headlamps. The trick is to use the thickest
 wire you can with the shortest runs from the Alternator. The more cable
 the greater the loss in voltage, the same holds true as you get thinner
 wire. The Wide corning fog lamps use Three more relays. I trigger the
 lamps to turn on with the parking lamps, they then turn off with the low
 beam and turn back on with the high beam. The third relay is to enable
 this function. I get a bit fanatical about my wiring due to the remote
 places I get to, so every lamp has its own relay and circuit breaker.
 This makes it easy to diagnose trouble and minimises any failure. The
 rock lamps (floods on crossmember) are dual beam types so each has 2
 relays and is triggered by the low beam and 4wd circuit. There is not a
 lot of point in running high beam when you are looking at your wheels,
 so this is why they operate off the low beam position. The lamps off the
 rollbar are operated off the second battery under the bed, off which
 there are two. Again each lamp has its own relay and circuit breaker.
 The top lights are triggered off the high beam circuit. I also have the
 hooked to the 4wd circuit so they don't operate on the road. This is a
 legal requirement but I have a bypass switch. The floods pointing back
 on the rollbar are triggered by the reverse lamps and the 4wd circuits,
 again I have a bypass for the 4wd circuit. In all I have 4 switches on
 the dashboard, all are disable switches for each bank of lamps. All of
 the lamps with the exception of the low beam also pass through a low
 voltage cut out. Although I have never had the voltage drop Its nice to
 know that I cant flatten the battery. In all I run 3 batteries, but
 that's more for other reasons than the lights. I have one for the winch
 ,HF (2Mhz flying doctor) radio and the Sat phone (Iridium), the second
 is to the starter only and the third to every thing else. I get into
 some very remote places and I need to know I have 2way radio
 communication and starting ability all of the time otherwise you can
 wind up dead especially when you only have one vehicle. The battery with
 all the lights , sound systems ect also runs my fridge over night which
 can put a battery into the position of not starting the car and not
 being able to call for help. Somewhere around I have the circuit
 diagrams of the lamp and battery wiring and the low voltage cut outs. If
 anyone wants them I'll dig them out, drop me a direct e-mail if you want
 them.
 James Stevenson (TonkaTuf)
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