Toy4x4 Digest Tue, 24 Dec 96 00:30:03 (HST) Volume 1 : Issue 19 Today's Topics: Administriva - Crossposting Bio (2 msgs) Chains or Cables? Cross-over steering **WHY**???? Because it's better ! DIN-sized CB radio? (2 msgs) PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Prob w/87 4Runner Random Questions RE What no hubs Toy4x4 Digest V1 #18 (2 msgs) What! 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Jack Alford (List Administrator) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 96 20:47:39 UT From: "Neal Sullivan" Subject: Bio To: "Toy4x4" Neal Sullivan City & State: Westminster CA Country:USA E-mail address:mmisullivan@msn.com Toyota (s) year & model: 1988 Toyota 4Runner V6 SR5 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):Yes,# not received yet Age:31 Occupation:Owner Multi-Media company and Off Road parts manufacturer for Toy's Marital Status:Single Hobbies:4 wheeling,skiing,mountain biking How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:friend General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: 4.88 Gears,Posis Front and Rear,JP Eater dual transfer case,WCOR 14" travel IFS suspension,ARB front bumper with Warn 9000# winch, headers,2 1/2" exhaust,Centerforce dual friction clutch,33" Goodyear Wrangler MT, Air Compressor on board,and more. - ---------- From: Toy4x4-Request Sent: Friday, December 20, 1996 9:56 PM To: Neal Sullivan Subject: Bio Personal Bio Info POST TO THE LIST ONLY >> toy4x4@tlca.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Name: Neal Sullivan City & State: Westminster CA Country:USA E-mail address:mmisullivan@msn.com Toyota (s) year & model: 1988 Toyota 4Runner V6 SR5 Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):Yes,# not received yet Age:31 Occupation:Owner Multi-Media company and Off Road parts manufacturer for Toy's Marital Status:Single Hobbies:4 wheeling,skiing,mountain biking How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:friend General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: 4.88 Gears,Posis Front and Rear,JP Eater dual transfer case,WCOR 14" travel IFS suspension,ARB front bumper with Warn 9000# winch, headers,2 1/2" exhaust,Centerforce dual friction clutch,33" Goodyear Wrangler MT, Air Compressor on board,and more. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 02:04:19 -0600 From: joe mcmahon Subject: Bio To: Toy4x4 Toy4x4-Request wrote: > > Personal Bio Info > > POST TO THE LIST ONLY >> toy4x4@tlca.org > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Name:joe mcmahon > > City & State:iselin nj > > Country:usa > > E-mail address:riott@microfone.net > > Toyota (s) year & model:86 ex cab > > Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):n > > Age:35 > > Occupation:machinest > > Marital Status:marrid > > Hobbies:drums > > How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:sufing > > General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:I have a 85 4x4 ex cab ,blue on blue ,simi monster trk , needs some work on body lil rusty 22re engine w/ over dr trans , ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:21:46 -0800 From: "Gary at MRI..." <"garyt@mri.com, pushkin"@hooked.net> Subject: Chains or Cables? To: 4runner list Old question isn't it! But I ask it again.....(I couldn't find the FAQ quickly enough....but am looking) I have goodyear Wranglers 265/70R 16" Tires. I am planning to go to Tahoe this week. Is it better to have Chains or Cables for the Radial tires? - -- - Gary - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:05:19 -0600 From: toyx4@winternet.com Subject: Cross-over steering **WHY**???? Because it's better ! To: toy4x4@tlca.org I have seen the conversion you are refering to on a Toyota in a magazine a few years ago. It was the first IFS to Solid Axle conversion I had seen and it retained the stock IFS steering box to accomodate the new arm/link to the passenger side steering arm. None of the photos were close enough to see what he had done to the passenger side steering arm to accomodate this conversion. Some Off-Road shop set up the steering conversion for him. I'll scavange through my old mags and see what I find. I've seen that Rick Russel video to which you refer. That Nissan Pathfinder looks like it's taking a beating then brakes or binds. For those of you that have never seen one of Ricks videos your missing out. Jack Alford wrote: > > You and I are obviously talking about two different steering setups here: > I'm not talking about anything where the toe-in could change like it can > on IFS trucks during hard use since there is no tie rod. I'm talking about > a setup like Full-Size Furd 4x4's and some Joops where the draglink goes > down and mates with the tie rod via a tapered hole in the tie rod. > > And if some of you IFS guys think the toe-in can't change, check out the > intro to Rick Russell's Rubicon video ... That's an ugly scene with the > tires BOTH flexing inward at the same time like that ... one of > the many tie rod-ish links finally broke it looked like ... > > This setup has MANY advantages over the drivers side only > draglink that solid axle toys have, cross-over steering does not have > the terrible brake-steer/gas-steer caused by not having the torque rod, > and cross-over steering does not limit wheel travel or severely over-stress > the steering arm during extreme suspension droop since the draglink does > not go directly to the steering knuckle as it does on a stock toy 4x4. > ______________________________________________ Steven Benson '85 Toy X-Cab | MNTOYX4 | MN4WDA | TLCA #4835 http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4 mailto:toyx4@winternet.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:09:19 -0600 From: Jack Alford Subject: DIN-sized CB radio? To: toy4x4@tlca.org Eric Johnson wrote: >Does anyone know of a CB radio that fits well in a DIN-size (2"x7"; i.e. car >radio sized) opening? I have a Uniden ??, not sure of the model number but it's the only with a forward firing speaker and 3 weather channels and an external PA output. It fits nicely under my Sony CD player ... same width as my CD player, took a little rigging to get them both in there just right but it works great ... - jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:14:08 -0800 From: Scott Wilson Subject: DIN-sized CB radio? To: Toy4x4@tlca.org > I have a Uniden ??, not sure of the model number but it's the only with > a forward firing speaker and 3 weather channels and an external PA > output. That reminds me Eric, you won't HAVE to get a front firing speaker for this application. Don't get me wrong, it probably would be the best way to go, but bottom of the factory spot your talking about is not enclosed, so you won't have a problem hearing a bottom firing speaker. (like mine) Scott - -- Scott A. Wilson __o __o __o __o Santa Clara, CA _'\<,_ _'\<,_ _'\<,_ _'\<,_ swilson@pacbell.net (_)' (_) (_)' (_) (_)' (_) (_)' (_) http://users.uniserve.com/~rcomber/scottw/scottw.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:12:49 -0500 From: "Peter" Subject: PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!1 To: If anyone can help me with parts please E-mail me!!!!! I have an 85' X-tra cab 4x4 3" lift 32x11.5/15 BFG muds 22re (wanting a 4.3L chev) If anyone can help Don't hesitate to drop a line!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:43:42 -0500 From: Toy4x4s@aol.com Subject: Prob w/87 4Runner To: Toy4x4@tlca.org I would tend to think you've spent a handful of cash you didn't need to spend. <> P.S. - is anyone running a 1 piece rear drive shaft in an x-tra cab??? Or have >> any recomendations for a dealer/manufacturer >My xcab truck (an 86) came factory with a 1-piece drive shaft ... >wouldn't get any cheaper than a junk yard ... ______________________________________________ Steven Benson '85 Toy X-Cab | MNTOYX4 | MN4WDA | TLCA #4835 http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4 mailto:toyx4@winternet.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:45:30 -0500 From: Toy4x4s@aol.com Subject: RE What no hubs To: Toy4x4@tlca.org Hmmm. I've never heard of "no hubs" before... But my input on which hubs to get would be go to the salvage yard and pick up a pair of stock Toyota manual locking hubs. I paid $65 for the pair after my automatic pieces of shi* hubs stopped working. I believe that I've heard that the Warn ones stick out further? I could be wrong..... it certainly wouldn't be the first time, nor the last I suspect... June Bennett TLCA 2942 Rising Sun 4WD Club of COlorado ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 96 09:25:28 -0600 From: bwiencek@kcnet.com Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #18 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org >Anyone out there tried any of the aftermarket camshafts for the 22RE?=20 *nope- just the 22R cams.... >Do you have to pull the head to replace the camshaft?=20 NO, but if you're pulling the head, you're doing 85% of the work - just 8 more bolts to get the cam out. >The reason I'm asking is that if indeed I did blow my head gasket (see = You might have worn out the right hand (passenger side) cam chain guide- which in turn wears a hole in the timing chain cover where the coolant from the water pump passes. Pull your valve cover, as you're facing the engine from the hood, look down the left side of the chain, if you see a guide holding the chain away from the cover - you've probably got a head gasket... Otherwise look for grooves in the cover where the chain wears away at it... If that's the case, drop the oil pan & clean out the sump - all the pieces of the guide end up there. Good luck Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:00:53 -0600 From: "Brian G. Mess" Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #18 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org Eric Johnson wrote: > Does anyone know of a CB radio that fits well in a DIN-size (2"x7"; i.e. car radio sized) opening? Eric, I have a Uniden PC122XL SSB radio that fits my 88 4Runner. It fits just below the radio I installed. The real problem with the CB is the depth. It just barely fits in the lower spot. My CB is 1 3/4 X 6" X 5" deep. However you still have to make room for the antenna to connect. Also this CB is good because the mike attaches to the front of the radio. > Also, I'm be open to suggestions on antenna mounting. I garage my > 4Runner, so the whip can't be too long; plus the trails out here > (seattle) are usually wooded with low branches, so a long whip > would get abused out there anyways. > > My current antenna plan is to get one of those stainless brackets > that bolt just inside the hood and come out between the hood > and the fender, with a 3' whip, unless someone can talk me > into something better. Are the 3' whips usable? I've also > considered getting one of those antennas that can > (simultaneously) be used as a CB and AM/FM antenna, > but I can't figure out how to get inside the fender to remove > the stock antenna. As far as usefulness of a 3' whip: How far do you need to transmit? I have a K40 and can get reception/transmission w/o attaching the antenna to the mount, but I only have about 100 yards of range. One other thing to remember with a 3' whip mounted where the stock antenna is: Low hanging trees will catch it and "whip" it into the truck. Think about mounting it on the rear bumper and using a tennis ball to buffer it. Another idea is to get a longer whip and mount it to the bumper and then attach the end to the gutter rail. This would give great reception, yet not catch any low hanging trees. Regards, Brian bgmess@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 96 08:27:09 -0600 From: "Eric P. Madsen" Subject: What! No Hubs? To: "Toy4x4 List" >In a final inspection yesterday, I noticed that it does not have manual or >automatic front hubs. Underneath the hub caps of the nice new aftermarket >wheels I see a simple floating axle cap, cadium plating and all. > >Is this wierd.. I thought all Toyotas came with some form of manual or >auto front hubs. If your 89 is like my 94, then it has a disconnecting differential up front. The front drivetrain turns all the time, and when you shift on the fly, the (left?) front axle is spun up. At least I think this is how it works. You can install hubs; in fact, according to Ludel, they are required for any aftermarket LSD's or lockers. eric Eric P. Madsen (madsener@etca1.den.mmc.com) Electronics Packaging Analysis, Lockheed Martin Astronautics/Denver TLCA member #3728 / 94 Toy 4x4 Xtra-Cab SR5 "A fur trapper who was strictly from commercial . . ." - FZ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:22:35 +0000 From: Brendan To: toy4x4@tlca.org Personal Bio Info POST TO THE LIST ONLY >> toy4x4@tlca.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Name:Brendan H. O'Neill City & State:Atwater, CA Country:USA E-mail address:brendano@cyberlynk.com Toyota (s) year & model:'91 4WD truck Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?):not yet Age:23 Occupation:professional student Marital Status:nonexistent Hobbies:surfin' the net, radio, cycling (road and mtn.), offroading, rollerblading, listening to the Art Bell program, watching tv/sci-fi programs/anime, sleeping, eating good food, computers (Apple) How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List:tlca web page General info about your vehicle, self, etc.: ------------------------------ The views expressed in Toy4x4 are those of the individual authors only. Be sure to check out the OFFROAD MAILING LIST. Subscription requests can be sent to: offroad-request@off-road.com End of Toy4x4 Digest ******************************