Toy4x4 Digest          Fri, 18 Jul 97 00:30:02 (HST)  Volume 1 : Issue 314
 Today's Topics:
 1984 4Runner @ the junkyard
 1986 Toyota 4Runner ( engine  Repair )
 1997 Toyota T-100
 98 Tacomas w/TRD off road pkg.
 Air Compressor
 Air conditioning (9 msgs)
 Bed mount roll bar free to a good home (2 msgs)
 Bio
 Electric Cooling fan
 FJ40 A/C ?/Topless Runner
 Fwd: Bio
 gears/lockers
 IFS Toyota front suspension
 In the need of some advice
 Late receipt of Digest V1 #257
 Looking for 88 4Runner windsheild trim (2 msgs)
 Poly bushings in shocks...
 Rough Country 3" package (2 msgs)
 Soft Tops
 Swapping to EFI
 Taco gears
 tires for sale
 Toy4x4 Digest V1 #311 (3 msgs)
 Toy Turbos
 Truck with 3"body and 3"suspension lift (2 msgs)
 Wheel Offset (2 msgs)
 Wheel Solutions
 Wheel Solutions?
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 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 02:03:07 -0500
 From: FRANK TORRES  Subject: 1984 4Runner @ the junkyard
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I found a 1984 4Runner SR5 at the junkyard, its loaded and they are
 "parting it out".  It has a manual sunroof, at least 4" of lift with
 RS5000, it has headers in good shape, a webber carb, but does have a bad
 transmission / transfer case,  which are in the bed.
 What Im realy interested in, is the dash.  It has full instrumentation
 plus a realy cool console mounted on the center part of the dash with an
 altimeter and a slope and tilt gauge.  I need to make them an offer for
 the dash and counsole...how much should I offer and how difficult will
 the removal and installation be? Should I trade them my old dash ?
 This will be for my 1985 Plane Jane Longbed.
 Thanks in advance.    If anyone else has interest in this thing, let me
 know, Ill get you the number.
 - --
 Frank Torres
 Cedar Park, Texas
 85 Longbed 4x4
 90 4Runner 4x4
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:49:13 -0700
 From: "M. D. Smith, V"  Subject: 1986 Toyota 4Runner ( engine  Repair )
 To:  Thanks folks,
 I have now in addition to removeing the Valve cover, Exaust manifold,  and
 the stock Header Pipe, now
 The starter has been removed. I removed the starter on the advise of Joe
 Lowe and my brother Scott Smith.
 They both convinced me that removing the starter would eliminate one more
 variable from the equation.
 The equation being, " Loud noise emminating from the engine / transmission
 area the last time I drove
 the 4Runner. This 4Runner has the 22R EFI engine with "Automatic"
 transmission.
 Well anyway the Starter looked fine, and the flywheel also looked fine.
 So I guess this means "time to Pull the EFI and the cyl. head ?
 Any advice and or comments ?
 Please send to:  deesmith@hiwaay.net    or call Dee Smith at:  ( 205 )
 536-7031
 Thank you all in advance!
 Dee Smith
 Huntsville, Alabama
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:05:49 -0400 (EDT)
 From: TWilli1945@aol.com
 Subject: 1997 Toyota T-100
 To: Toy@unix.off-road.com, 4x4@tlca.org
 Can you give me any help on a torque transfer problem?  From 0-5 at half or
 more acceleration, you get a "stutter" felt in the driver's seat.
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 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:44:27 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Carfindr@aol.com
 Subject: 98 Tacomas w/TRD off road pkg.
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Just heard from Toyota that our region- Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona,
 Wyoming and Nevada is the only region in the US to order 98 Tacomas with
 the TRD offroad pkg. that includes the Bilstein shocks, progressive rate
 front
 coil springs, modified camber rear leaf springs, larger front stabilizer bar,
 31x10.50
 Goodyear tires on aluminum wheels, locking rear diff., fender flares, tach
 and TRD
 graphics.  When Toyota first brought to our attention that they were going to
 offer
 this option pkg. they were planninig on only 2% of total 4x4 production, we
 thought
 90% would be great. First they settled on 50%, but with some coaxing we now
 are at 80%of our incoming 4x's.  We will actually be getting all SR5's now
 with  this pkg.
 Before I had said that they were going to drop the SR5 for the new Limited
 but,
 we are receiving both SR5's and Limiteds.  Right now we seem to be selling
 more Limiteds but won't have any Offroad package Tacomas till next week.
 Sorry for the long post but it makes me angry when I hear of people on the
 list,
 who bought trucks without the options they wanted because there local dealer
 said that Toyota doesn't make that option.
 Mike Magree
 Fleet Manager
 John Elway Toyota
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:05:25 -0700
 From: "Todd and Terry"  Subject: Air Compressor
 To: "Toyota List"  Can anyone tell me if the A/C compressor for a 22R pumps it's oil out when
 running?  If it does, anyone have a cure or solution for it.  I want to use
 this compressor for onboard air.
                               Todd
 87 Toyota 4X4, EZ Lockers F/R, 30-11.50-15 TSL SX's, 15X8 AR 26's,
 Trailmaster/Superlift 4"lift,  Ramsey front bumper, Custom Nerfs, Custom
 rear bumper,
 Custom body by Sierra Nevada.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:33:49 -0400
 From: Ed Ruf  Subject: Air conditioning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On 03:18 PM 7/17/97 -0700, Leroy Andersen wrote:
 >I know the topic of A/C was bantered about a couple weeks ago, but I either
 >don't remember part of it, or my specific problem wasn't discussed. My A/C
 >works great as long as I am driving down the road. When I come to a red
 >light I notice that when I'm sitting there, the A/C isn't blowing as cold. I
 >finally figured out that if I give it a little gas to raise the RPM, I hear
 >a little 'click' behind the glovebox and the air gets colder again. I
 >vaguely remember some discussion about an adjustment that can be made back
 >in there so that if the engine RPM drops, the compressor doesn't kick off.
 >I'm sure one of you A/C gurus out there can help me here??
 Not an A/C guru, just a DSE (Dumb Sh*t Engineer, it's a long story, but I
 once worked with a bunch of PhD physicists!) that's been there and done
 that. If you unsnap the fabric from the back of the glovebox (no need to
 remove it) on the upper left you should find the A/C amplifier. The
 amplifier has two functions: 1) comparing compressor and engine rpm and
 de-energizing the compressor clutch if they are not the same; and 2) has an
 engine rpm setpoint below which the clutch is de-energized. The second
 function is what's getting you. There's a small adjustment screw on the
 front (all black) to set this. Start the truck, turn the A/C on and adjust
 the amplifier.
 BTW, the ASSUMES the VSV which raises the idle speed when you turn the A/C
 on is functioning properly. If you switch the A/C on and your idle speed
 doesn't increase, then this VSV is bad and needs to be replaced.
 Ed Ruf  (egruf@visi.net) or for Scramjet related ? (e.g.ruf@larc.nasa.gov)
 86 Toy 4x4 SR5 PU@126K, 3.5" Rcho susp.+RS-7ks,31x10.5 BFG-A/T,K&N
 87 Toyota SR5 4Runner @118K, KYB GasSprings, 30.5x9.50 Cooper Disc.
 86 Yamaha FJ-1200SC @ 16K
 82 Honda XL600R Thunderin' Thumper
 2.5 yr old, 110#, pure bred white GSD, Kaiser Klaus III, AKC# DL569628/04
 ------------------------------
 Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:39:17 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: Air conditioning
 To: "Toyota 4x4 List"  Subject:                              Time:  3:39 PM
 OFFICE MEMO         Air conditioning                      Date:  7/17/97
 Leroy Andersen  wrote:
 >I know the topic of A/C was bantered about a couple weeks ago, but I either
 >don't remember part of it, or my specific problem wasn't discussed. My A/C
 >works great as long as I am driving down the road. When I come to a red
 >light I notice that when I'm sitting there, the A/C isn't blowing as cold. I
 >finally figured out that if I give it a little gas to raise the RPM, I hear
 >a little 'click' behind the glovebox and the air gets colder again. I
 >vaguely remember some discussion about an adjustment that can be made back
 >in there so that if the engine RPM drops, the compressor doesn't kick off.
 I'm no guru, but on the ac evaporator box (big black one) under the dash
 there is a small pocket (at least on '85s) that holds the ac amplifier
 circuit card. On it is a small potentiometer that you can turn to adjust
 the engine rpm where the ac compressor cuts in and out.
 ______________________________________________
 Jay Kopycinski                              '85 Toylet   (ROKTOY)
 Gilbert, AZ                                    '85 4Runner (her project)
 ryna10@email.sps.mot.com           '91 4Runner (for sale)
 http://www.netzone.com/~jayk
 Arizona Lo-Rangers 4WD Club            TLCA #3243
 ______________________________________________
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 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:32:18 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Leroy Andersen  Subject: Air conditioning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 06:33 PM 7/17/97 -0400, you wrote:
 >function is what's getting you. There's a small adjustment screw on the
 >front (all black) to set this. Start the truck, turn the A/C on and adjust
 >the amplifier.
 >
 >BTW, the ASSUMES the VSV which raises the idle speed when you turn the A/C
 >on is functioning properly. If you switch the A/C on and your idle speed
 >doesn't increase, then this VSV is bad and needs to be replaced.
 The idle speed does increase with A/C, so it's probably just the easy
 adjustment you mentioned. Thanks for the quick response.
 >Ed Ruf  (egruf@visi.net) or for Scramjet related ? (e.g.ruf@larc.nasa.gov)
 Scramjet in a Toy 4x4......hmmmm......   ;>
 ~~~
 Leroy Andersen                  1985 SR5 Short Bed 4x4/22RE
 Citrus Heights, CA              138K Miles, RS9000's, 4.10's
 andrsen@ns.net                  Rancho Springs/Add-a-leaf
 http://www.ns.net/~andrsen/
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:40:10 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Leroy Andersen  Subject: Air conditioning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 >Jay Kopycinski wrote:
 >I'm no guru, but on the ac evaporator box (big black one) under the dash
 >there is a small pocket (at least on '85s) that holds the ac amplifier
 >circuit card. On it is a small potentiometer that you can turn to adjust
 >the engine rpm where the ac compressor cuts in and out.
 >
 Got Ed's message first, but upon reading yours I have to wonder...does
 turning the pot adjust the engine speed, or the compressor cut off for a
 given engine speed? I would assume that it would just set the compressor cut
 off, in which case...say I wanted to adjust the cutoff speed at 700 RPM,
 would I have to tweak the idle adjust screw down, then adjust the A/C pot? I
 need that sucker blowin' full time here in our summer weather, even at a
 stop light.
 ~~~
 Leroy Andersen                  1985 SR5 Short Bed 4x4/22RE
 Citrus Heights, CA              138K Miles, RS9000's, 4.10's
 andrsen@ns.net                  Rancho Springs/Add-a-leaf
 http://www.ns.net/~andrsen/
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:17:26 -0400
 From: Ed Ruf  Subject: Air conditioning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On 04:32 PM 7/17/97 -0700, Leroy Andersen wrote:
 >At 06:33 PM 7/17/97 -0400, you wrote:
 >
 >>Ed Ruf  (egruf@visi.net) or for Scramjet related ? (e.g.ruf@larc.nasa.gov)
 >
 >Scramjet in a Toy 4x4......hmmmm......   ;>
 It might make for a quick trip to the outback, except for the fact that
 you'd need another system to get up to Mach 3-4 were you can then let the
 scramjet take over.  :-)
 Ed
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:20:06 -0400
 From: Ed Ruf  Subject: Air conditioning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 On 04:40 PM 7/17/97 -0700, Leroy Andersen wrote:
 >>Jay Kopycinski wrote:
 >
 >>I'm no guru, but on the ac evaporator box (big black one) under the dash
 >>there is a small pocket (at least on '85s) that holds the ac amplifier
 >>circuit card. On it is a small potentiometer that you can turn to adjust
 >>the engine rpm where the ac compressor cuts in and out.
 >>
 >
 >Got Ed's message first, but upon reading yours I have to wonder...does
 >turning the pot adjust the engine speed, or the compressor cut off for a
 >given engine speed? I would assume that it would just set the compressor cut
 >off, in which case...say I wanted to adjust the cutoff speed at 700 RPM,
 >would I have to tweak the idle adjust screw down, then adjust the A/C pot? I
 >need that sucker blowin' full time here in our summer weather, even at a
 >stop light.
 Sorry for not being absolutely clear. The pot on the amplifier is the
 cutoff setting.  The fast idle speed believe is set with the big white knob
 on the vacuum fitting coming off the middle of the intake plenum.
 Ed
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:32:24 -0500
 From: Steve Capuano  Subject: Air conditioning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 04:40 PM 7/17/97 -0700, you wrote:
 >>Jay Kopycinski wrote:
 >
 >>I'm no guru, but on the ac evaporator box (big black one) under the dash
 >>there is a small pocket (at least on '85s) that holds the ac amplifier
 >>circuit card. On it is a small potentiometer that you can turn to adjust
 >>the engine rpm where the ac compressor cuts in and out.
 >>
 >
 >Got Ed's message first, but upon reading yours I have to wonder...does
 >turning the pot adjust the engine speed, or the compressor cut off for a
 >given engine speed? I would assume that it would just set the compressor cut
 >off, in which case...say I wanted to adjust the cutoff speed at 700 RPM,
 >would I have to tweak the idle adjust screw down, then adjust the A/C pot? I
 >need that sucker blowin' full time here in our summer weather, even at a
 >stop light.
 You can make the compressor run continuosly, but if it spins too slow (like
 what your fixin to do) you are not doing anything as far as cooling goes
 just bogging the motor down.  you need the RPMs to keep the ref. flowing and
 your pressures up.  Keep that in mind.  It may work, but it may not be
 designed to be effective at that slow of a speed.
 Steve Capuano                   1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
 capuano@hypercon.com            31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
 Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 NRA lifetime member             Dynomax 2.5" cat back  Synthetic all around
 Headers are next on my list.  Oh also a free flow cat!
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 23:25:17 -0700
 From: Leroy Andersen  Subject: Air conditioning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 09:32 PM 7/17/97 Steve Capuano wrote:
 >
 >You can make the compressor run continuosly, but if it spins too slow (like
 >what your fixin to do) you are not doing anything as far as cooling goes
 >just bogging the motor down.  you need the RPMs to keep the ref. flowing and
 >your pressures up.  Keep that in mind.  It may work, but it may not be
 >designed to be effective at that slow of a speed.
 >
 Actually, I'm not trying to get it to run at 700 RPM, I just don't want it
 to kick off when I'm sitting at a light idling at around 900 to 1000 RPM. I
 meant that if I set it at 700, then since the truck idles at 900-1000 it
 would never shut off.
 ~~~
 Leroy Andersen                  1985 SR5 Short Bed 4x4/22RE
 Citrus Heights, CA              138K Miles, RS9000's, 4.10's
 andrsen@ns.net                  Rancho Springs/Add-a-leaf
 http://www.ns.net/~andrsen/
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 23:28:55 -0700
 From: Leroy Andersen  Subject: Air conditioning
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 08:17 PM 7/17/97 -0400, you wrote:
 >>
 >>>Ed Ruf  (egruf@visi.net) or for Scramjet related ? (e.g.ruf@larc.nasa.gov)
 >>
 >>Scramjet in a Toy 4x4......hmmmm......   ;>
 >
 >It might make for a quick trip to the outback, except for the fact that
 >you'd need another system to get up to Mach 3-4 were you can then let the
 >scramjet take over.  :-)
 >
 >Ed
 >
 We could just strap it to one of the SR-71's mothballed at Beale AFB, or
 maybe the SR-71's replacement that doesn't officially exist. I know, I'm way
 off the subject here...
 ~~~
 Leroy Andersen                  1985 SR5 Short Bed 4x4/22RE
 Citrus Heights, CA              138K Miles, RS9000's, 4.10's
 andrsen@ns.net                  Rancho Springs/Add-a-leaf
 http://www.ns.net/~andrsen/
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:18:21 -0500
 From: pbarnhar@comcom.com (Phil Barnhart)
 Subject: Bed mount roll bar free to a good home
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I've got a black 4" tube bed mount Owens "Classic" rollbar free* to a good home in the Milwaukee area.
 Also the original rims and tires from my '89 sr5.
 *I wouldn't turn down a case of beer...
 First come, first served. Email me.
 ------------------------------
 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 23:19:42 -0700
 From: Leroy Andersen  Subject: Bed mount roll bar free to a good home
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 06:18 PM 7/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
 >I've got a black 4" tube bed mount Owens "Classic" rollbar free* to a good
 home in the Milwaukee area.
 >Also the original rims and tires from my '89 sr5.
 >*I wouldn't turn down a case of beer...
 >
 >First come, first served. Email me.
 >
 And everyone is complaining that all the good deals are here on the left
 coast....
 Leroy Andersen
 1985 SR5 SWB
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 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:08:07 -0700
 From: "Tim D. Woolever"  Subject: Bio
 To: Toy4x4  Name: Tim Woolever
 City & State: Lompoc, CA
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 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:56:12 -0500
 From: Sheldon  Subject: Electric Cooling fan
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 >
 > Item Subject: Electric cooling fan
 >      Sheldon, do they make these for the V6 engines too. For 60 bucks that
 >      is. I was thinking of doing this to gain a little more power, but
 >      didn't want to part with the big $$$ that I have seen advertised.
 I got mine at the local auto parts (Discount to be specific) I use a 16 inch fan on the
 stock radiator. The 16 is about an 1/4 inch too big so I let the bottom sit on the lower
 lip of the radiator making go over the upper lip just a little. It doesn't look bad and
 so far has worked fine. It's attached with the plastic pull through the raditor ties so
 far no probs there,(USE THE LITTLE FOAM PIECES GO AGAINST THE RADIATOR THAT COME WITH
 THE TIES!!!!) although about a year ago I replaced them when I pulled my motor. One
 thing really stumped me for a while, that is with the fan on it made lot's of line noise
 on my radio. After jerking around with it while I did two things and the noise went
 away.
 1. grounded the fan to the block not the firewall
 2. hooked up the hot wire to the power wire from the regulator at the fuse box, not the
 batt.
 I think #2 is what really did it.
 I suppose you could get away with a 14 inch fan and if would fit flat and all of course
 if you have a V6 I have no idea how big your radiator is.
 I really like mine especially since when I shut the motor down and am hanging out a the
 local mud hole I can let it run to keep the motor from heat saturation, my reasoning is
 every little bit helps prolong the life of the engine.
 Hope this helps
 Sheldon
 83ToY4x4
 btw you can also get an aftermarket adjustable thermostat for around 10 bucks so you can
 dial in whatever temp you want your fan to come on.
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 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:34:21 -0400 (EDT)
 From: SKINTUNES@aol.com
 Subject: FJ40 A/C ?/Topless Runner
 To: LandCruisers@tcla.org
 Hey buds,
 Pleasure to be new on the Net.  Also new 40 owner. Rare find in NY.
 Bought(stole)
 an 82 FJ40, pretty set up, and more so by the day, but not without cancer for
 1500 bucks.  Stumble over the thing while Mt. biking in NJ with dog. Thing
 is, its got some aftermarket A/C.!!!*** *****jackpot*****  Some funky Hi-way
 / City controlls which elude me. Must give it a dose of R12 and believe it
 will blow. Info on this A/C unit (probably worth 750 alone) would be greatly
 appreciated.  Will scan future photos of this find soon. I promise you all
 will choke. (for all purposes identical to Red 40 on Scam-A-Fre Home page)
 By the way Toyota Gods are watching over Rockland County , NY--
 Have top off 85 4-runner for five days straight , beautiful. More head turns
 than the Cruiser--- well almost.
 Also need advice about securing full cage to frame to avoid sheetmetal stre
 ss or what's left.
 Gregg Jarvis  Suffern,NY
 ------------------------------
 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:13:21 -0400 (EDT)
 From: SKINTUNES@aol.com
 Subject: Fwd: Bio
 To: LandCruisers@tlca.org
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 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:51:40 -0500
 From: bmonster@dkeep.com
 Subject: gears/lockers
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 I forget who had the friend that had 4.88s and lockers (ARB/lockright)
 for sale.  Please e-mail me direct about this, I am interested.  Was it
 a solid front axle?
 bmonster@dkeep.com
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 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:49:28
 From: Charles  Subject: IFS Toyota front suspension
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 11:18 PM 7/16/97 -0700, you wrote:
 >Ed and Jimmy -
 >
 >You have to stop. NOW. I was perfectly happy bolting a set of National
 >desert springs to my prerunner (Ford 9" is now done; full-floater, 4 wheel
 >discs!), but now I'm thinking going 4-link and coil-overs. STOP ALREADY!
 >Let me be! I would have just had Fabtech build me a truck if I would have
 >thought this thing would turn into a full 7-S rig! Please quit giving me
 >ideas!
 >
 > - Nick
 Scared? say ya scared!!!
 Charles Brooks
 cbrooks1@mail.acilink.net
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 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 02:29:05 -0700
 From: "Kevin Sr, Cindy and Kevin Thomson II"  Subject: In the need of some advice
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 This is a few quick questions for whoever can help me out.  When I make
 a hard left corner with my truck I hear a metal against metal noise
 sometimes.  I'm starting to think it is the steering stop bolt that is
 making contact with the truck.  Is there a proper way to adjust these
 bolts and/or will it hurt my steering if I try to adjust them.  Do you
 really need the little black caps that go onto these stop bolts cause my
 broke off.  Also when driving under normal conditions every once in a
 while I will receive extreme vibration on the drivers side in the front
 that continues until I "jerk" the steering or "shake" it out.  Could
 this be the constant velocity joint or is it something else.  I already
 checked out my tie-rods and stuff and everything is pretty tight.  Any
 help would be appreciated.  Also I am planning on painting the truck
 after I have somebody do the body work.  Is it worth having somebody do
 all the body work professionaly with the way the beds rot out?  Somebody
 told me not to even bother but I have seen some really nice older Toy's
 and I want mine to join the group.  Any help from anybody would be great
 this is my first Toy and I've been dreaming about it up till now!
 Kevin Thomson II
 '88 Toyota 4x4 pickup
 4" body lift
 33" BFG All Terrain
 140,000 and it still runs like new!
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:02:57 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Duckguy@aol.com
 Subject: Late receipt of Digest V1 #257
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 This issue, dated 19 June, just came through today!!! Anyone else have this
 happen?
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:58:16 -0500
 From: Chris & Nicki Yorke  Subject: Looking for 88 4Runner windsheild trim
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I have the same [problem with my 86 except all of mine is missing save
 the bottom strip. I want to replace all of mine but it will cost me
 about $120 for the parts plus having the widshield taken out to replace
 all the clips for I dont know how much. The bad thing is I get a
 discount since I work for a dealer.
 Chris
 yorke@bellsouth.net
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:39:25 -0700
 From: nickkrest@batnet.com (Nick Krest)
 Subject: Looking for 88 4Runner windsheild trim
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Joe Brower  wrote:
 "...the outside trim from the left side of the
 windsheild on my 1988 4Runner simply flew off
 and goodbye! I've called my local Toy dealer
 and they want $50 for this skimpy little peice
 of metal...have any (recommendations)?"
 I before E, except after C...
 Take the other piece of trim off and throw it away. Then both sides will
 match. Cost: $0.00.
 - Nick
 ------------------------------
 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 04:58:58 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Toy4x4s@aol.com
 Subject: Poly bushings in shocks...
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 Try this...lube up the shock ring and bushing... Go over to your vise open it
 up and put the shock ring and bushing in the jaws and close vise until it
 slips in... No pounding, no sweat on forehead... it's easy... to press out...
 secure said shock ring in vise jaws just enough to hold it snug (don't smush
 it) with the hole facing north/south... (not like east/west like when you
 pressed it in.) and get a big socket like a spark plug socket... squirt WD40
 around bushing, and put socket on bushing and a couple swift whacks with a
 hammer ans it pops out...
 June Bennett
 TLCA 2942
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:03:47 -0500
 From: Sheldon  Subject: Rough Country 3" package
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:22:35 MDT
 > From: "Allan Davis"  > Subject: rough country 3" package for $399
 > To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 >
 > Does anyone use Rough Country leaf springs on their straight axle
 > Toyota?  I was told that this kit includes shocks (Heckethorn Hydro
 > 8000s) and everything else required.  I was also told that it does
 > not include a rear brake bracket to relocate the equalizer.  The
 > person at Rough Country said it is not necessary for this package.
 > Any thoughts?
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Allan
 >
 First lift I ever bought. Not to get on them but in one word
 STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...
 To let you know how bad they worked I have had a few frineds ask to buy my old lift
 sitting the garage and I won't sell it cus I don't want them to get mad at me.
 The kit was really made for a big half ton with something more than a 4 popper.
 They may be more but you get what you pay for I would recommend skyjacker.
 Sheldon
 83ToY4x4
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:55:01 -0700
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Rough Country 3" package
 To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org"  Sheldon wrote:
 >
 > > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:22:35 MDT
 > > From: "Allan Davis"  > > Subject: rough country 3" package for $399
 > > To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 > >
 > > Does anyone use Rough Country leaf springs on their straight axle
 > > Toyota?  I was told that this kit includes shocks (Heckethorn Hydro
 > > 8000s) and everything else required.  I was also told that it does
 > > not include a rear brake bracket to relocate the equalizer.  The
 > > person at Rough Country said it is not necessary for this package.
 > > Any thoughts?
 > >
 > > Thanks,
 > > Allan
 > >
 >
 > First lift I ever bought. Not to get on them but in one word
 > STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...STIFF...
 >
 > To let you know how bad they worked I have had a few frineds ask to buy my old lift
 > sitting the garage and I won't sell it cus I don't want them to get mad at me.
 > The kit was really made for a big half ton with something more than a 4 popper.
 >
 > They may be more but you get what you pay for I would recommend skyjacker.
 >
 > Sheldon
 > 83ToY4x4
 I have had no problems with my Trail Master 4" other than the squeeks...
 - --
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 Brandon Miller                     email: sac78483@saclink.csus.edu
 Sacramento, CA                            millerb@gaia.ecs.csus.edu
 url: http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~millerb/4x.html
 1983 Toyota LB locked F&R, 5.29:1 gears, roll cage, etc. etc.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:51:23 -0500 (CDT)
 From: gfrancis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Greg S. Francis)
 Subject: Soft Tops
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 >Also, if you get the kayline
 >top, get yourself a snap repair kit and learn how to use it. I'm always
 >ripping off snaps.
 >
 >--
 >-- ej@blarg.net
 I've gone through TWO kits!  The weak snap is one of only two complaints I
 have w/ the Kayline.  The hardware (screws and stuff) is not of great
 quality, and the screws tend to strip out after several remove/replace
 cycles with the top.  (my hardtop goes back on every year) I ended up
 relacing all of the tapping screws this last time the soft top came off.
 Greg S. Francis
 University of Texas @ Austin
 School of Architecture
 gfrancis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
 TLCA Member #5558
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:29:09 -0500
 From: Sheldon  Subject: Swapping to EFI
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I suppose I'll ask again. I have afriend who threw a rod in is 90 with a 22RE.
 We started putting a small block in it last night and he wants to sell me all his EFI
 stuff, manifold, sensors, everything... Would it swap over to my 83 block and would
 switching to EFI make a whole lot of diffrenece over what I have already done so far to
 my motor.
 So far I have added headers, weber, downey cam, rebuilt shortblock..
 Any info would be greatly appreciated...
 Thanks
 Sheldon
 83ToY4x4
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:36:22 -0500
 From: Steve Capuano  Subject: Taco gears
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 The splines are different on the new Taco 3rd members, but the ring gear is
 a bolt on "ring".  Was the ring and pinion actually changed or just the 3rd
 member beefed?  Seems like any right dia. ring would work, its the pinion I
 know nothing about.  Maybe thats different.
 Any ideas from those in the know.
 Steve Capuano                   1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
 capuano@hypercon.com            31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
 Rear LockRight  K&N filter
 NRA lifetime member             Dynomax 2.5" cat back  Synthetic all around
 Headers are next on my list.  Oh also a free flow cat!
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:06:08 -0400
 From: elkins@mis.net (Sean Elkins)
 Subject: tires for sale
 To: toy4x4@tlca.org
 I've got a set of Courser OTD's in 235 75R 15 that I bought for my
 Pathfinder during hunting season. My new Taco has 31's, so I don't want to
 screw up my odometer reading and speedo. I really hate to give up any of my
 warranty mileage due to bad speedo calibration. No anal jokes please!
 So anyway, I've got four of them with only 4K miles on them .They are a
 really open tread design, a true mud tire. I'll peel them off the wheels
 for $200 and deliver them within a two hour drive of the northern Kentucky
 general area. The local tire guy wants $99 each for them new. I paid $250
 for the set from a friend in the tire business. They look brand new and
 even still have some of the blue crap on the letters
 They are on a set of new American Racing 15 X 6 white spoke steel wheels
 that will fit Toyota. I'll sell tires and wheels together for $300. That's
 not as terrific a deal as the tires alone, but I may put a set of 31's on
 the wheels unless the tire dealer says the wheels are too narrow for 31's.
 Email if you are interested, or even to tell me if I'm asking too much.
 Sean
 *****************************************************
 Sean Elkins - Educator, Mac user, Responsible Gun Owner
 "Modern American liberalism, when stripped of its camouflage
 of compassion, is  a perverse longing for an absolute social
 dictatorship. Inherent in the desires of every left-wing group
 is a set of restrictive regulations and severe penalties for
 violating them. Promoted as being for the public benefit (even
 if the public does not agree with them), these groups differ
 only in the behaviors they hope to restrict and the severity
 of the punishments they desire to inflict.
 Liberalism is ultimately about control, and the liberals won't
 be satisfied until they control everything."
 - -me                   -------------
 elkins@mis.net (preferred)
 sle1@aol.com
 *****************************************************
 ------------------------------
 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:48:07
 From: Charles  Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #311
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 At 01:20 AM 7/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
 >i have 15X8 eagle alloys on with a standard offset with  32X11.5's with a
 >nwor 2" torsion bar lift and rubbing on the left side as full compression
 >while turning left but i hammered the back part of he wheel well flat and
 >that fixed that.  By the way this is on a 93 v6 xtra cab with no front
 >valance.
 >
 >Q: i am wanting taller tires (33 or 35's) and wanted to know if anybody
 >has tried to run a 33x10.5 on a 8" wide wheel with the same lift.
 >such tires as a PR buckshot radial or a 33X10.5 or 33X11.5 swamper
 >thornbirds or tsl radials.
 >
 >thanks in advance
 >
 >aaron bewley
 When i first bought my 33X12.50's I ran them on the 8" rim I used for my
 31X10.50's. It works fine, and actually protects the rim from damage
 because of the larger sidewall bulge. Be carefull not to run them with
 too little pressure though, They will lose a bead easier than if they
 were on a 10" rim. When I used the 8" rim i never went below 15psi.
 Charles Brooks
 cbrooks1@mail.acilink.net
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:43:33 -0400 (EDT)
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #311
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 In a message dated 97-07-17 21:19:19 EDT, you write:
 << . Be carefull not to run them with
 too little pressure though, They will lose a bead easier than if they
 were on a 10" rim. When I used the 8" rim i never went below 15psi.
 >>
 uh, that is backwards.  the narrower rim allows lower preasure to be run.
 there is an increased chance of rolling it off the rim on a sidehill, but
 unlikely.
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:53:35 -0700
 From: Brandon Miller  Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #311
 To: "Toy4x4@tlca.org"  DRM033@aol.com wrote:
 >
 > In a message dated 97-07-17 21:19:19 EDT, you write:
 >
 > << . Be carefull not to run them with
 >  too little pressure though, They will lose a bead easier than if they
 >  were on a 10" rim. When I used the 8" rim i never went below 15psi.
 >   >>
 >
 > uh, that is backwards.  the narrower rim allows lower preasure to be run.
 > there is an increased chance of rolling it off the rim on a sidehill, but
 > unlikely.
 >
 > David
 > DRM033@aol.com
 I ran 3psi on my swampers and I run my new 35 bfg mudders at 7 and they
 hardly bulge on my 10" aluminum rims... I have never popped a bead
 - --
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 Brandon Miller                     email: sac78483@saclink.csus.edu
 Sacramento, CA                            millerb@gaia.ecs.csus.edu
 url: http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~millerb/4x.html
 1983 Toyota LB locked F&R, 5.29:1 gears, roll cage, etc. etc.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:20:28
 From: Brett Schmidt  Subject: Toy Turbos
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 What years was the turbo engine available in the 4Runner?
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:53:05 -0400 (EDT)
 From: JCVR4@aol.com
 Subject: Truck with 3"body and 3"suspension lift
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I am looking at a 90 truck with a 3" & 3" lift.  Is there anything that i
 should be aware of reguarding the lift itself.  I don't really like the Idea
 of using a bodylift and in this one, i guess, when the shifter cable (it is a
 5 speed) was legthened it was not done right or something because there is a
 good sized hole going through the floor to the ground right at the edge of
 the shift boot.   I don't think that this is normal and the owner is not the
 one who installed the lifts...he said that when he bought it it was not there
 then he said something about a screw that is supposed to be there...Is this a
 major problem..is it fine the way it is (the only thing is a whole bunch of
 noise comes in through it)...or is it a minor repair?
 Thanks
 Joey
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:11:11 -0500
 From: Chris & Nicki Yorke  Subject: Truck with 3"body and 3"suspension lift
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 What you are talking about is the hole where the shifter goes through
 the body to the trans I assume. When you raise a truck with a body lift
 there are some things that people dont think about and this is one of
 them. We get them in the shop all the time where they didnt make any
 mods to ther shifter itself. you should be able to replace the boot
 fairly easily, but at the same time you need to heat up the shifter and
 bend it so it does not hit on the body of the truck. Its not hard to
 remove at all just get the boot out of the way and you can look at it
 for a couple of minutes and figure it out. It is just to hard toexplain
 in on a computer.
 Chris
 yorke@bellsouth.net
 ------------------------------
 Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:54:46 -0700
 From: "Jay Kopycinski"  Subject: Wheel Offset
 To: "Toyota 4x4 List"  Subject:                              Time:  3:51 PM
 OFFICE MEMO         Wheel Offset                          Date:  7/17/97
 Brian Gallus  wrote:
 snip
 >So the center
 >section is forged and the barrel is spun aluminum - same as any cheap
 >cast wheel.  The only true forged wheels that you will find should be
 >one piece wheels (MT, Boyds) - be careful with two piece.
 Actually centrifugal spun wheels are a bit stronger than standard cast
 wheels. I've never seen a one-piece forged wheel, only two and three
 piece forged ones. I don't see how you could forge a wheel in one
 piece due to the shape.......am I missing something?
 I know my three-piece Enkeis were forged.....I've pounded a few rim
 dents out of them.
 ______________________________________________
 Jay Kopycinski                              '85 Toylet   (ROKTOY)
 Gilbert, AZ                                    '85 4Runner
 ryna10@email.sps.mot.com           '91 4Runner
 http://www.netzone.com/~jayk
 Arizona Lo-Rangers 4WD Club            TLCA #3243
 ______________________________________________
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:40:00 -0400 (EDT)
 From: DRM033@aol.com
 Subject: Wheel Offset
 To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 In a message dated 97-07-17 20:35:27 EDT, you write:
 <<
 My opnion?  Save money, go cast and carry a full size spare.
 bkg
 >>
 My opinion?  Go steel and save the money for something useful on the trail
 and street!
 David
 DRM033@aol.com
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:27:33 +0000
 From: feil@home.com
 Subject: Wheel Solutions
 To: TOY4x4@tlca.org
 Reguarding wheels for Toys.I recently purchased 15x8 Ultra 64,it's a
 polished MT lookalike with 4.5 backspacing for cheap.I wanted the
 biggest tire that would fit a non-lifted 94 xtracab.Knowledgeable 4x4
 shop said 31x10.50 if you want offroad. Street showToys could run
 32x11.50 or maybe narrow 33. Went with 31x10.50 for clearance/no need to
 regear. Happy so far.
 
 ------------------------------
 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:26:45 -0400
 From: Doug Berger  Subject: Wheel Solutions?
 To: Toyota 4x4 Digest  >Scott Wilson  wrote:
 "Nick was nice enough to let me try AR's with
 33's on for a 2nd time to check clearances.
 Supposedly the AR-23's I want, have the same
 off-set as Nick's AR-26's They weren't even
 close to working on my IFS truck. They rubbed
 on level ground with the wheel turned all the
 way either direction....I REALLY want alloys.
 Has anyone found a solution?"
 >Nice enough, my &#@! You owe me money, Wilson!
 >Just kidding. Actually, those particular wheels are Enkei 26's from 10 or
 >more years ago. I have a set of CenterLines with my desert tires on them,
 >too, but those are a different offset. I would recommend going with
 >CenterLines or Ultras (going on my prerunner). They do and will make them
 >in most every offset under the sun.
 >Also remember that, everything else being equal, a forged wheel is going to
 >be lighter and stronger than a cast one (e.g. American Racing and most
 >others). There is a price difference, but believe me, you will pay ANY
 >price to not have a broken wheel off-road. Cast wheels tend to break;
 >forged wheels tend to bend. A (big) rubber mallet or hammer will usually
 >straighten a forged (or steel) wheel to the point where it will hold a
 >bead, whereas a cast wheel mostly leaves you trying to ponder "Plan B."
 How do ya know if the wheels are cast or forged?  Which brands do you
 know (off-hand) that are forged?  I'm in the market to get some alloy
 15x10's and don't want 'em to break off-road, ya know?
 Thanks in advance.
 - --
 Doug Berger
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