Today's Topics:
 1983 SR5 22R
 1983 SR5 22R ???s
 ARB Compressor Locating
 Bio
 Engine Swap/Drive Shafts
 For your information
 FYI: Loose driveline
 Headlight wiring (2 msgs)
 Idea for changing the bio sheet
 lower gears mean weaker gears
 New engine?
 Old Man EMU (2 msgs)
 Rancho Lift/IFS
 Sway Bars, and Dana 44's (2 msgs)
 Thornbirds
 Toy4x4 Digest V1 #68
 Toy list member's Web page (2 msgs)
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:30:04 -0800
From: Scott Wilson 
Subject: 1983 SR5 22R
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org, kibo@bigsky.net
Jeff,
>         1) are there any mail-order outfits that specialize in
>                 toyota gear and parts? If so name and phone #'s
>                 would be great. If not, are there any of the
>                 national mail-order outfits you would advise against?
>
Yes.  Performance Products.   You can order a catologue from their web
sight at
 http://www.performanceproducts.com
I've had good results ordering from them, and their prices are very
competitive.
>         3) I want to modify the center console to get rid of the old
>                 am-fm and place the cd player there (it is currently
>                 mounted in a custom box between seats), Does anyone
>                 know where I can get replacement plastic console fronts?
>
 The dealer could probably order it for you for a lot of $$$.  The
other (better) options is to check the wreck yards.
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:47:12 -0700
From: KIBO GROUP ARCHITECTURE 
Subject: 1983 SR5 22R ???s
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Hey! I'm a new Toyota owner ('83 4x4) and have a few questions
that I would appreciate any help you can give me.
 1) are there any mail-order outfits that specialize in
 toyota gear and parts? If so name and phone #'s
 would be great. If not, are there any of the
 national mail-order outfits you would advise against?
 2) I'm burning about a quart of engine oil per 800 miles. My
 current strategy is to run the existing engine for around
 another 12 months then rebuild it or swap it for another
 engine. Would appreciate any advice about possible
 upgrades at that time. (ie...should I get fuel injection
 rather than carb engine??) etc..
 3) I want to modify the center console to get rid of the old
 am-fm and place the cd player there (it is currently
 mounted in a custom box between seats), Does anyone
 know where I can get replacement plastic console fronts?
 Thats enough for now. Sorry to post redundancies if this has all been
covered in the past.
 Thanks ahead of time for any help.
 FROADN,
 jeff
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:31:05 +0000
From: David Booth 
Subject: ARB Compressor Locating
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
I'm installing an ARB locker in my '89 V6 4Runner.  I had hoped to
install the compressor in the rear quarter panel (right hand tool
compartment) but the wiring harness is not long enough.  I suppose I
could splice in additional wire to make the longer runs, but I'm not
sure it's worth the effort (besides, it gets pretty dusty back there).
It appears that most applications put the compressor under the hood.
However, with the cruise control and all the essential hardware, it's
pretty crowded.
Does anyone have any ideas where I can mount the compressor?  Also,
does it need to be mounted up right, or can I mount it sideways?
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 18:23:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Spinnetti@aol.com
Subject: Bio
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Name: Dave Spinnett
City & State: Morrice, MI
Country: USA
E-mail address: Spinnetti@aol.com
Toyota (s) year & model:
91' SR5 V6 4Runner
85' MR2
85' Corolla GT-S (Race Car)
77' Celica (full race/custom)
67' Sports 800 (2 seat targa)
Are you a TLCA Member (Y/N/Number?): N
Age: 32
Occupation: Programmer
Marital Status: Yup.
Hobbies: 4wheeling (in my subaru too), SCCA Road Racing
How did you find out about the Toyota 4x4 Mailing List: Web surfing for
Toyota stuff
General info about your vehicle, self, etc.:
All my cars end up radically modified, usually in a racing direction. I am
just getting started on the 4Runner. (I used to have a 81 Toy. 4x4 short box
with a race motor, but mostly stock otherwise)
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:13:45 -0600
From: Steven Benson 
Subject: Engine Swap/Drive Shafts
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
I used the GM driveshafts and a spicer yoke which bolted directly to the
Toyota pinion yoke. Come to think of it, these may have been stock
Toyota yokes?! Didn't even have to use a conversion joint, the GM joints
worked just fine.
Craig Blanchette wrote:
I am about to begin a 350 swap into my 1982 truck. We were planning on
putting a 350, auto trans, 205 transfercase, and then modify the chevy
driveshafts to toyota ends. Has anyone ever done this? Any suggestions
or helpfull hints would be great.
______________________________________________
 Steven Benson
'85 Toy X-Cab | MNTOYX4 | MN4WDA | TLCA #4835
 http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4
 mailto:toyx4@winternet.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:41:02 -0700
From: nickkrest@batnet.com (Nick Krest)
Subject: For your information
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Andrew Jones  wrote:
 "...over the last two years I have had two
 potentially  dangerous incidences of bolts
 coming undone.
 "The first involved the U bolts on the rear
 leafs/axle...I then found that the bolt which
 holds/centers the springs and locates the axle
 was missing also.
 "The second incident involved the rear drive
 shaft coming partially disconnected at the
 transfer case end.  This started as a driveline
 vibration..."
Vibration will loosen suspension bolts faster than you can say, "What was
that noise?" Especially after putting in a new lift, replacing u-bolts,
etc. A good rule of thumb is to grab a torque wrench and crawl underneath
every 250 miles for the first 1500 or so and make sure everything is in its
place. Afterwards, take 10 minutes once a month and make sure your
suspension isn't about to fall off. And yes, Loctite 242 is an excellent
idea on any critical bolt.
 - Nick
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:48:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael L Martin 
Subject: FYI: Loose driveline
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 I, too, have had several instances of the bolts on the
driveline coming undone/ loose. I didn't want to use lock-tite
since I'd have to call in He-Man and his crowbar to get the
things undone when working on u-joints, etc.
 I used a little silicone in there when putting the bolts
in and haven't had a problem since. One poor man's opinion.
 M.
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:08:13 -0800
From: Eric Johnson 
Subject: Headlight wiring
To: "'toy4x4@tlca.org'" 
I've blown a headlight and have ordered a pair of
those fancy Hella Vision plus H4/reflector units.
They come with a 55/65 watt hi/low beam, but I
was wondering just how high a high beam I can
have with the stock wiring... a 55/100 or 55/130
would be a sweet stealthy setup, yet legal on
lowbeam.
I suppose I could just get the H4 elements I want
and if the stock wiring can't handle it, I could wire
in some relays, but I'd like to keep at as simple as
possible.
I've got 50 watt backup bulbs (Blazer brand,
non-halgen) that I got for $2.99 apiece, and they
turned out to be a great cheap trick, and put out
a lot more light than the stock 20ish watt bulbs.
- --
- -- ej@blarg.net
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:23:52 -0800
From: Scott Wilson 
Subject: Headlight wiring
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Eric Johnson wrote:
>
> I've blown a headlight and have ordered a pair of
> those fancy Hella Vision plus H4/reflector units.
> They come with a 55/65 watt hi/low beam, but I
> was wondering just how high a high beam I can
> have with the stock wiring..
Eric,
 I have a good friend who (about 6 months ago) put the same replacement
lights in his truck.  He uses the 55/100 watt combo with the stock
wiring.  He hasn't had any problems.  I intend to do the same swap in my
4Runner but there are other things which have priority at the moment.
Scott
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:23:00 +1100
From: "Jones, Andrew AL" 
Subject: Idea for changing the bio sheet
To: "'Toy4x4 List'" 
Good idea, why not leave out the "hobbies" cat. too as we're not allowed
to post about them.
(tongue in cheek - no replies reqd.)
Andrew
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:02:01 -0600
From: Steven Benson 
Subject: lower gears mean weaker gears
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
This is very true!
While doing some serious snow-whelling this weekend a friend told me to
try reverse with the t-case in high. It worked great for increased wheel
speed. Somewhere near the end of the day, at least for me, the reverse
gear decided it didn't like the extreme load of the 35" tires and the
5.29 gears. The weakest link always breaks, it happened to be the
reverse gear. Under load it decided to pop out of gear. I assume it did
this because it didn't like the stress and when it did it made an
unforgetable crunching noise. Afterwards it was very very noisy in
reverse, wouldn't stay in reverse and eventually started making noise in
forward gears. It got me home but I'm sure it's not pretty inside. I'll
let you know the damage when we pop it open.
Jay wrote:
Remember though that low gears means weaker gears. The reverse
gear is not made to handle as much stress as 1st gear.
______________________________________________
 Steven Benson
'85 Toy X-Cab | MNTOYX4 | MN4WDA | TLCA #4835
 http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4
 mailto:toyx4@winternet.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 07:32:25 -0800
From: Matt Silva 
Subject: New engine?
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Well this is the first time I have posted to this mailing list... I've been
following for a while and still learning, so please bare with me.
I went to Lake tahoe this past weekend and half way there, I think my
thermostat stuck shut and over heated quickly.  Unfortunately I didnt have
any tools with me so had to be towed into Tahoe.
I had the thermostat the next day and all seemed to be ok, until I started
home.  It began to over heat faster and faster but I absolutely had to be
home for a new job so I proceeded to make my way home.  I soon noticed alot
of white smoke from the exhaust after sitting for any length of time so I
began to think I may have blown a head gasket.
Needless to say I am having the truck towed into my shop tommorrow night so
I can see what the damage is.  It is so bad now, its barely driveable.
I am looking at the possibility of a new engine now and wanted to ask you
all what you thought of the performance increase verses cost on going to a
V6 instead of the 22EFI.  from what I can tell it looks like about an extra
$1000.
I will also most likely be keeping this engine stock... internally anyway.
Any and all comments or suggestions are welcomed.
As I am not always able to keep up on the list if you respond to this could
you please copy me as well dirtectly.
Matt Silva
88' 22EFI
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:29:21 -0600
From: "Larry D Walls" 
Subject: Old Man EMU
To: "Toy4x4" 
> >Colin Learning  wrote:> >
> >        "I'm looking for a new set of springs for
> >        my 85 Toy. Has anybody had any experience
> >        with OME?"
I've got a 1980 Hilux 4x4 that is a Japanese Model (right side steering),
and I put a Rancho 3" lift on it will I was Overseas. The lift was made for
US models but everything fit perfect. I ordered the lift from 4 whl parts
whlse in Cal. US cost was 150$ the same lift and part number in Japan was
1400$ US downtown. I'm changing out the frame now due to rust and the
replacement one is off of a 82 4x4 the only difference is where the torque
rod bolts up, both frames have the bolt holes for the steering box for
either side.
The shackle eyelet holes are exactly the same, and the spring lengths are
the same also from what I was told the Aussie & Japan models are the same
so the springs should work.
Larry D Walls
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:41:07 -0700
From: nickkrest@batnet.com (Nick Krest)
Subject: Old Man EMU
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Sam Houston (great name!)  wrote:
 "Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the
 truck that TLCA raffled off this year have
 an OME suspension under it?  I was under
 the impression that it did and I assumed
 (there's that darn word) that it was a USA
 spec model."
The exact wording from the Sweepstakes web page is:
 "Lift Kit. Donated by: ARB U.S.A., distributors
 of: ARB Air Lockers, ARB Steel Bullbars, Old Man
 Emu Suspensions, Safari Snorkels."
Whether the "lift kit" included a set of springs, I don't know. If it did,
the ARB USA sales office lied to me!
 - Nick
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:24:58 -0600
From: Steven Benson 
Subject: Rancho Lift/IFS
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
A few people in my club, as well as myself, have run the Rancho IFS lift
and loved it. The lift is somewhat adjustable and should work just fine
for 33's. The Rancho lift can also be used with Downey parts to get some
extreme articulation as well.
As for other IFS lifts, one of our club members just ran the Pro-Comp
IFS lift and I like the looks of it as well. The ride seems a little
softer than the Rancho and has some beefier components such as an
additional support from the frame to the lowered front a-arm hanger,
nice.
Kevin Water wrote:
Just wondered if any of you Toyota nuts out there have installed a
Rancho  ifs lift kit and if it was any good? I want a lift to handle
33,s without any rub at full lock and am concerned about reliability
since I am a high mileage driver. ( I don't want to have to align the
front end all the time) I also am thinking about a lock right for the
front end and was wondering if this would adversely affect highway
driving with the front hubs locked in.
______________________________________________
 Steven Benson
'85 Toy X-Cab | MNTOYX4 | MN4WDA | TLCA #4835
 http://www.off-road.com/~MNTOYX4
 mailto:toyx4@winternet.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:32:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Ross Raymond Fahlen 
Subject: Sway Bars, and Dana 44's
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Hello all,
I have a few ideas to throw out.  First I have been thinking of making a
quick disconnect for my sway bar for my solid axle toy for a while now,
and have finally come up with a pretty sophisticated drawing using Silver
Screen which is a program like CAD.  If anyone has a lathe or would like
to make some let me know, all I ask is that you make me a set too (I'll
throw in some money if you want).
My next idea has already been done, but I think it is a good one and
deserves some attention.  Most of us know that the weaks in Toyota front
ends are the U joints or Birfeilds (sp?).  There is a guy I know that
belongs to the club that I am in and he has taken Dana 44 axles and
machined them and the Toyota housing, so that he can have the best of
both worlds (stock housing, and stronger axles).  Right now the shop that
did the conversion is trying to get other company's interested, so that
maybe this could be produced.  If anyone has thoughts, interests or
comments please let us know.
Thanks
Ross Fahlen
Western Washington University
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:35:25 -0800
From: Scott Wilson 
Subject: Sway Bars, and Dana 44's
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Ross Raymond Fahlen wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a few ideas to throw out.  First I have been thinking of making a
> quick disconnect for my sway bar for my solid axle toy for a while now,
> and have finally come up with a pretty sophisticated drawing using Silver
> Screen which is a program like CAD.  If anyone has a lathe or would like
> to make some let me know, all I ask is that you make me a set too (I'll
> throw in some money if you want).
Do you know if this design would work on an IFS truck?  Or how much
modifying would need to be done to your design to make it work?  I'd
love to see you design.  If you don't mind, may I see it?  I use
SilverScreen at home, so you could send me the actual file, and I'll be
able to read it.
I do understand if you to want to show your idea around (if your wanted
to patent it and such) but if you do send it to me I promise not to rip
off you idea, and not to show it to anyone w/o your permission.  I'm
just very interested if it'd work for my 88 IFS 4Runner.
Thanks,
 Scott
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 15:52:08 MST
From: "Cadet Jeremy P. Wieder, x4307" 
Subject: Thornbirds
To: 
, 
Tony-
Are your Thornbirds still in good shape after 60,000 miles?  I have 33"
Remington Mud Brutes on my truck right now and I'm going to need new tires
pretty soon.  Would you recommend the Thornbirds?  What about the noise
and the ride?  Thanks for the help.
Jay Wieder
85 4Runner
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:31:26 -0500 (EST)
From: SCANGRFIKS@aol.com
Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #68
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
FOR THE SECOND TIME, PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST THANK YOU
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 14:44:10 -0600
From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
Subject: Toy list member's Web page
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
 Well, I've been working on my engine swap, and was suprised that there isn't
more info on the web about doing this same sort of thing, and I've been thinking
that I'd put together a web page that has a lot of info & pictures about others that
have done this.  If anyone wants their truck on this page (to be named later),
please e-mail me the pictures and the info, or if you don't have access to a
scanner, I can scan pictures for you (e-mail me for more info).
 I've also been toying with putting together a toy 4x4 amiling list members
page that has thumbnails of everyone's truck, along with their e-mail address and a
little blurb about their truck...  Totally voluntary to be listed and/or have the
e-mail listing.
 If someone has a similar page or is doing/has done this, let me know
otherwise If either of these sound good to you, drop me a line.
- - Brian
(mabye regretting that I did this 
)
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:52:10 -0600 (CST)
From: gfrancis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Greg S. Francis)
Subject: Toy list member's Web page
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
>        I've also been toying with putting together a toy 4x4 amiling list
>members
>page that has thumbnails of everyone's truck, along with their e-mail
>address and a
>little blurb about their truck...
Sounds like a neat way to learn from others.  I'm always interested to see
how people have modified their 4x4s, It usually gives me ideas.  Same
reason I like to see trail worthy Toys in the "reader's rigs" pages.
Sounds like the same sort of thing w/o all the "just for show" street
stompers.  I think its a great idea, but will take constant attention.
Greg S. Francis
University of Texas @ Austin
School of Architecture
gfrancis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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